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[Duplicate of Benny’s post]. Go Paulette!



IN THE COAL fields of southern West Virginia, one of the biggest campaign issues is — unsurprisingly — the future of coal.

That’s the backdrop for one of the most contentious congressional races of the year, with Democrat and fierce organized labor advocate Richard Ojeda pitted against Republican Carol Miller, a champion of President Donald Trump’s agenda, for the open 3rd Congressional District seat in the House of Representatives.

Both candidates say they are strong supporters of the coal industry. But recent campaign disclosures show that the race has become a proxy for the longstanding struggle between mine owners and the workers who have risked their lives and health to extract billions of tons of the fossil fuel.

Ojeda, for his part, raised an unprecedented $1.4 million over the last fundraising quarter, bringing the cash in mostly through small-dollar donations. He rejects corporate money and receives support from the United Mine Workers of America, among other mine labor organizations.

Miller, in contrast, loaned her campaign $290,000 and relies on large donations from coal and natural gas executives, lobbyists, and attorneys, according to public disclosures. Her recent campaign finance statement reveals a laundry list of corporate-controlled PACs from the energy industry, particularly coal. Among the PAC donors are Coal PAC, Contura Energy PAC, and Alliance Coal PAC, which are funded largely by coal executives.


iirc, a gazillion-generation coal miner said that he’d be ok with learning how to work for a green energy industry, but he wanted to work, at a Bernie rally. he may have said that he didn’t know if he could learn all the new things he’d have to learn. but if they could really be put to work making windmills, who wouldn’t want to get out from that black death dust????

a big problem, though, for every industry’s labor, is robotics.


Just a reminder this makes c3po look primitive not to mention the exo skeletons that people can wear for heavy duty labor jobs.



A new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds that more than six in 10 likely voters say Kavanaugh’s confirmation after facing allegations of sexual assault makes them more likely to vote for one party or the other. Despite the conventional wisdom that the fight energized the GOP base, these voters are more likely to say it has spurred them to support Democrats.

In the survey, 35 percent said Kavanaugh’s confirmation made them more likely to vote for a Democratic congressional candidate and 27 percent said it made them more likely to vote for a Republican congressional candidate. Another 37 percent said it wouldn’t affect their vote.

There was a gender difference: By 3 percentage points, men said it made them more likely to vote Democratic. By 12 points, women said it made them more likely to vote Democratic.


Yay! And yay, the author said “Democratic,” not “Democrat.”



A majority of Americans don’t believe their financial situation has improved since the last election, according to the results of a new survey released just two weeks before the midterms.

Since the 2016 presidential election, 62 percent of Americans said their financial situation hasn’t improved, according to a survey conducted by Bankrate.

Despite a strengthening economy and a 3.7 percent unemployment rate, the lowest in nearly 50 years, the traditional indicators of economic health aren’t providing the real picture of how individual Americans are feeling, said Mark Hamrick, senior economic analyst at Bankrate.

“There is distance between what the broad brushstroke economic data tells us and the experience of individuals in our country,” he said. “It doesn’t align perfectly with the experience of each and every person.”


Apparently, not just “each and every person,” but a “majority of Americans.”


I know i’m part of the 62%



After years of losing close elections with moderate candidates, Democratic voters in the South have dramatically changed course. This year they have gambled on a pair of unapologetically black candidates running as authentic progressives. As a result, two of the most closely watched gubernatorial elections in the country have proven much more competitive than expected — and could result in the rise of a new brand of Southern Democrats.

The U.S. currently lacks a single black governor. Three Democratic candidates are running this cycle to change that. Two of them, Georgia’s Stacey Abrams and Andrew Gillum in Florida, have a real shot at making history in two weeks. Abrams hopes to become the first elected black female governor in U.S. history, while Gillum hopes to be the first black governor of the nation’s largest swing state.

Both candidates have adopted remarkably similar platforms and deployed some of the same strategies in their campaigns in neighboring states. The two young Democrats have apparently learned from their party’s hard-fought losses and have eschewed the platitudes of pragmatism that often fail to mobilize voters. Instead, they’re running progressive platforms that connect to the working class writ large on issues of economic fairness and opportunity which enjoy widespread support. Conventional wisdom has long held that progressive Democrats are not politically viable in a general election, especially in a purple state. But the Republican Party’s platform can hardly be described as widely popular, and that hasn’t stopped the GOP from winning elections or enacting its agenda.


what a difference this will make!!!!


Another poll (Gravis) this morning had Nelson ahead by 4 and Gillum by 5


Florida governors expect a boost in public opinion surveys after managing a natural disaster, but so far Rick Scott has received no appreciable bump after Hurricane Michael. In three consecutive Senate polls released after the governor earned wall-to-wall media coverage for managing the storm, Scott trails Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson.

Scott’s team isn’t buying it. His campaign excoriated Quinnipiac University’s survey Monday showing Nelson with a large lead of 6 points, and argued instead that the governor is in fact leading by 5 points.

The poll-truthing, however, revealed a deeper concern that’s long gnawed at some Republicans — including GOP donors from Scott’s well-heeled hometown of Naples: Scott should be doing far better given his cash advantage over Nelson.


The people who suffered through Michael are not all politically ignorant even though the area is called “South Alabama.” Pollution was already a yuge deal down here cos of the red tide-algae mess. More details have been coming out about how crooked Sick Rott actually is. DeSantis’s great love for the orange dumbo creamsicle isn’t helping him. We will know in 13 days. Heavy turnout = these 2 yahoos becoming history. T and R to the usual excellent TPW suspects!!


Hoping you would chime in about your neck of the woods orl!!!



An explosive device was found on Wednesday morning by a technician who screens mail for Bill and Hillary Clinton, who live in a suburb of New York City, a law enforcement official said.

The official said the device was similar to one found at the home of billionaire philanthropist George Soros on Monday.

It was not immediately clear where the device was found.

Mr. Soros’s home is also in a suburb north of New York City. That device was constructed from a length of pipe about six inches long filled with explosive powder, and it was “proactively detonated” by bomb squad technicians, according to one of the officials, all of whom were briefed on the investigation.

The motive of the would-be Soros bomber or bombers remained unclear, one of the officials said, adding that there had not yet been any claim of responsibility.


Explosives sent to the Obamas too





The White House condemned these actions but Trump could not force his small nationalist hands to tweet a similar response.

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White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Wednesday condemned the “attempted violent attacks” against former President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton after authorities intercepted potential explosive devices that had been mailed to their homes.

In a statement, Sanders called the attempted attacks “despicable” and the perpetrators “cowards,” saying U.S. law enforcement agencies are investigating the incidents.

“We condemn the attempted violent attacks recently made against President Obama, President Clinton, Secretary Clinton, and other public figures,” Sanders said.

Sanders insisted Wednesday that the perpetrators would be held accountable “to the fullest extent of the law.”


Well it took a couple of hours before he could finally be convinced to weigh in. (half heartedly)


Not really surprised about this and it would be safe to say a lot of us here were wondering when this would happen. With Trumpcorp leading the way at his rallies (Just pull his transcripts form any rally) with this dangerous rhetoric for the last 2 years. Very few R’s had the balls to condemn him. Trumpcorps and other R’s now condemning this is no better than the thoughts and prayers they offer after every mass shooting and then proceed to do nothing.


Thanks slick willie/$hrill for getting tRump elected. This violent ugliness has been bubbling for a long time. Greedballs like you 2 and your friends have brought it to the surface.


Cruz’s response to bomb threats illustrates how Republicans are complete frauds about ‘civility’

On the heels of reports that bombs had been sent to the Clintons, President Obama, CNN, and others on Wednesday morning, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) took to Twitter to denounce “incivility” in politics.

“Violence is never OK. Reports of bombs being sent to the homes of Obama, Clinton, and Soros are deeply, deeply disturbing,” Cruz wrote. “America is better than this. Political disagreements are fine, even healthy, but we should always be civil and respect each other’s humanity.”

During a campaign rally less than 24 hours earlier, however, Cruz joked about the extrajudicial imprisonment of both Beto O’Rourke — the Democratic candidate running against him for a Texas U.S. Senate seat — and Hillary Clinton.

After one of his supporters yelled “lock him up!” in reference to O’Rourke, Cruz quipped that “Well, you know, there’s a double-occupancy cell with Hillary Clinton,” adding, “y’all are gonna get me in trouble with that.”

The disconnect between what Cruz said on Tuesday and what he tweeted on Wednesday illustrates how Republicans don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to denouncing “incivility” in politics.


One clip illustrates the absurdity of Fox News’ fear-mongering about the ‘left-wing mob’

On Wednesday morning, Fox News was forced to interrupt a segment breathlessly fear-mongering about “left-wing mobs” and protesters confronting Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) at a restaurant to cover news that bombs had been sent to the Clintons and Obamas.

At the same time that Fox News fear-mongered about the left on Wednesday morning, CNN abruptly had to end broadcasting from its studio in New York after a “suspicious package” was reported in its building.

Fox News has been hyping alleged left-wing “incivility” while essentially serving as a propaganda service for Trump and the Republican Party ahead of the midterm elections. Meanwhile, within the last week, Trump has both encouraged Republican violence against journalists and downplayed the murder of a journalist by a close U.S. ally.

The Clintons and Obamas received bombs in the mail just two days after the same thing happened to liberal philanthropist George Soros. All of them have been targeted for abuse by Trump, though the White House’s condemnation on Wednesday did not mention Soros by name.



A few gay bars in Nashville, Tennessee reportedly received fliers with images of assault rifles and President Donald Trump, with some bar owners believing the fliers are some kind of threat.

There have been at least four bars in Nashville that have received the fliers, WTVF reported. The letters feature the acronym LGBT with images showing that the letters stand for Liberty, guns, beer and Trump,” according to WTVF. There is an image of an assault rifle over the letter G and is reportedly similar to the gun used in the shooting at Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, in 2016, according to WTVF.

The owner of Nashville’s Stirrup Sports Bar, Melvin Brown, told WTVF that he views the flyer as a threat. Brown told the news station that he received the flyer with a Make America Great Again (MAGA) stamp on the back, which is Trump’s slogan.

Melvin Brown, the owner of Nashville’s Stirrup Sports Bar, told WTVF that he sees the flyer as a threat. The images were delivered with a “MAGA” stamp on the back, according to WTVF, a reference to Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan. The return address on the envelope of the flier was for an empty parking lot, according to WTVF.



Allow me to suggest that “blame” is too narrow a way to make sense of a series of attempted bombings aimed at precisely the people Trump and other Republicans spend a huge amount of time vilifying. We don’t have to look for clues about whether the person responsible has a MAGA hat, or what their party registration is. We don’t have to assign direct blame beyond a reasonable doubt.

But what we can say is this: Given what Trump has done and said, this was absolutely predictable. In fact, it’s a wonder that it took this long.

It’s not just that Trump advocates violence against his political opponents — though he does. It’s that everything about his rhetoric pushes his supporters in that direction, even if the overwhelming majority will never get quite to the point where they’ll actually commit this kind of act of terrorism.


How about scrutinizing the moneybags behind the Turd Wayers while you’re at it?


Now Holder and Cuomo. Possibly one at Kamala Harris’s San Diego office. I’m sure they are monitoring all prominent Dems including Bernie for these packages.


And Maxine Waters


A suspicious package addressed to Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) was intercepted at a congressional mail facility on Wednesday, a Democratic aide told The Hill.

Capitol Police intercepted the package at a facility in Maryland, according to ABC News, which first reported on the development and subsequent investigation.

Police bomb technicians were deployed to the congressional mail facility, ABC News reported.


O’Rourke yard signs set on fire outside Dallas

Several campaign yard signs for Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas) were set on fire in Dallas suburb this week.

Five signs, all in support of Democratic candidates including O’Rourke, were set ablaze Monday night, according to the Dallas Morning News. O’Rourke is looking to unseat Sen. Ted Cruz (R) on Nov. 6 in the Texas Senate race.

All the vandalized signs were located in the same neighborhood and reported to the police in roughly the same time period.

Yard signs for Colin Allred, a Democrat challenging Rep. Pete Sessions (R) for a House seat, were also set on fire.

“People need to keep in mind that harming signs is against the law, end of story,” said Dallas County Republican Party chairwoman Missy Shorey.


Good publicity for the good guys. If you think this was cool, you were never going to vote for Beto, et al. Everyone else, it might give them that extra push to get to the polls.


I haven’t seen Ridley Scott’s “Body of Lies,” but I want to now. (Guardian article from 2008. Imagine how much more pervasive it is now.)

All it asks for in exchange is that the US armed forces are made to look good. So in a previous Scott film, Black Hawk Down, a character based on a real-life soldier who had also been a child rapist lost that part of his backstory when he came to the screen.

But the past 12 years of semi-acknowledged collaboration were preceded by decades in which the CIA maintained a deep-rooted but invisible influence of Hollywood. How could it be otherwise? As the former CIA man Bob Baer – whose books on his time with the agency were the basis for Syriana – told us: “All these people that run studios – they go to Washington, they hang around with senators, they hang around with CIA directors, and everybody’s on board.”

The former agent Milt Beardon took the advisory role on two less action-packed attempts at espionage stories: Robert De Niro’s The Good Shepherd from 2006, which told an approximate version of the story of the famed CIA head of counter-espionage, James Jesus Angleton; and Charlie Wilson’s War, the story of US covert efforts to supply the Afghan mujahideen with weaponry during the Soviet occupation of the 80s. In reality, this was a story that ended badly, as the Afghan freedom fighters helped give birth to the terrorists of al-Qaida. In the movie, however, that was not the case. As Beardon – who had been the CIA man responsible for the weapons reaching the Afghans – observed shortly before the movie came out, the film would “put aside the notion that because we did that [supply arms], we had 9/11”.

Beardon’s remark provides a clue to the real reason the CIA likes to offer advice to Hollywood, a clue that was expanded on by Paul Kelbaugh, the former associate general counsel to the CIA – a very senior figure in Langley. In 2007, Kelbaugh spoke at Lynchburg College of Law in Virginia – where he had become an associate professor – about the CIA’s relationship with Hollywood. A journalist present at the lecture (who now wishes to be anonymous) reported that Kelbaugh spoke about the 2003 Al Pacino/Colin Farrell vehicle The Recruit. A CIA agent had been on set as a “consultant” throughout the shoot, he said; his real job, however, was to misdirect the film-makers. “We didn’t want Hollywood getting too close to the truth,” the journalist quoted Kelbaugh as saying.

Gary DeVore, working on a movie about Panama:

He was researching the United States invasion of Panama, because he was setting the actual story that he was writing against this; and the overthrow of Noriega and the enormous amounts of money laundering in the Panamanian banks, also our own government’s money laundering.”

Turned up dead.

DeVore’s body was found, decomposing in his Ford Explorer, in 12 feet of water in the California Aqueduct below the Antelope Valley Freeway, south of Palmdale – a city located in “aerospace valley”, so dubbed by locals for its reputation as a US military-industrial-complex stronghold….


One of the reasons I avoid any and all military/spy, etc. movies is they are unrepentant propaganda pieces. I hate war to begin with, and the ra-ra-ra-ing makes my low BP boil. It’s the same as that idiotic USA! USA! USA! chant.


I suppose that the failed attempt for regime change (backed by the CIA and Saudi Arabia) in Syria had nothing to do with it.


President Donald Trump on Wednesday said mass migration in Europe has created a “total mess” on the continent, warning that immigration advocates in the U.S. will regret their position — just as, he claimed without evidence, Europeans do.

“For those who want and advocate for illegal immigration, just take a good look at what has happened to Europe over the last 5 years,” Trump tweeted. “A total mess! They only wish they had that decision to make over again.”

Europe has seen a surge in migrants, including refugees and asylum seekers from Africa and the Middle East, over the past five years that has put a strain on countries like Greece and Italy that sit along the southern border of the European Union


Bombs raining down on the refugees’ homes? Nothing to see here, move along.


Real Clear Politics

NY Times/Siena 10/15 – 10/19 606 LV 4.2 48 46 McSally +2
CBS News/YouGov 10/2 – 10/5 898 LV — 44 47 Sinema +3
ABC 15/OH Predictive Insights 10/1 – 10/2 600 LV 4.0 47 41 McSally +6
FOX News 9/29 – 10/2 716 LV 3.5 45 47 Sinema +2

Thinking Grijalva must be pretty safe.


One of those stories that are hard not to read.

She said she’d free them from addiction. She turned them into her personal servants.

One guy allegedly jumped off a 3rd floor to get away. She’s still operating in NC. Guess addicts just aren’t worth protecting.


That IS hard not to read.


Meanwhile over in Gaza more target practice!


LOL! They must be worried about Bernie.


They are worried, in just a few years hes completely changed American politics and political views and that’s with almost no real political power and they are very aware of what he could do with the actual power of President.


A New Report Shows the White House Is Terrified of Socialism

The Council of Economic Advisers’ investigation into the “opportunity costs of socialism” reads like a nervous undergraduate’s term paper.


They are desperate to hold onto their immense power. From Hedges again.

It was impossible to build a friendship with most of the sons of the uber-rich. Friendship for them was defined by “what’s in it for me?” They were surrounded from the moment they came out of the womb by people catering to their desires and needs. They were incapable of reaching out to others in distress—whatever petty whim or problem they had at the moment dominated their universe and took precedence over the suffering of others, even those within their own families. They knew only how to take. They could not give. They were deformed and deeply unhappy people in the grip of an unquenchable narcissism.

It is essential to understand the pathologies of the uber-rich. They have seized total political power. These pathologies inform Donald Trump, his children, the Brett Kavanaughs, and the billionaires who run his administration. The uber-rich cannot see the world from anyone’s perspective but their own. People around them, including the women whom entitled men prey upon, are objects designed to gratify momentary lusts or be manipulated. The uber-rich are almost always amoral. Right. Wrong. Truth. Lies. Justice. Injustice. These concepts are beyond them. Whatever benefits or pleases them is good. What does not must be destroyed.

my bold.



The White House released a paper yesterday entitled “The Opportunity Costs of Socialism.” DSA National Director Maria Svart issued the following statement in response:

“DSA agrees with the White House ‘socialism’ report in one respect — ‘socialism is making a comeback in American political discourse.’ The very fact that the White House has published this report shows that the few in power are recognizing what many have known for a while — that ‘socialism’ can act as an antidote to the current political system which has proved itself bankrupt with no real pathway for a decent life for the large majority of the American people. The DSA is committed to putting forward a true picture of socialism, as opposed to the distorted version Donald Trump’s White House would like you to accept.

“The White House report is an opportunity to address the real needs of the American people. Those needs include a health care system that provides universal comprehensive coverage to all, rather than an exploitative market-based system that only serves the rich. They include higher education for all those who want it; an education free from crippling debt; a fair and just society for all; and a justice system that does not jail children, separate them from their parents, or incarcerate millions of black and brown people. Socialism provides hope for a future that this administration is doing everything in its power to destroy.

“Socialism presents a humane and ethical counter to the ‘collective’ that Trump has declared to be a member of — a ‘nationalist’ party that is race- and class-based, and saturated with misogyny. We favor no one group in particular and see each struggle for freedom and true equality as part of the larger fight for justice for all.”



Oh boy. Looks like Abrams burned a confederate flag in 1992. Oh well, those weren’t going to vote for her anyway.



The Georgia NAACP is filing a complaint claiming that votes for Democratic candidate Stacey Abrams in that state’s race for governor have been changed to Republican candidate Brian Kemp.

The NAACP’s state conference electronically filed complaints with the Georgia Secretary of State’s office (which is held by Kemp himself) claiming that votes cast for Abrams in Bartow and Dodge counties were initially registered to Kemp, according to USA Today. As of Tuesday, the Georgia NAACP also had plans to file additional complaints in Henry and Cobb counties, likewise claiming that votes intended for Abrams had initially been changed to Kemp. Eight voters in total are alleging that they noticed their votes had been changed.

“We’ve experienced this before. They ended up taking these old dilapidated machines out of service. The ones giving the problems. They should have been replaced about 10 years ago,” Phyllis Blake, president of the Georgia NAACP, told USA Today.


Good news from GA


Well that’s kind, to call them dilapidated, not hacked.


Since Trumpcorps rhetoric has led to the bombs being sent today, this is another resort of Trumpcorps rhetoric.

Man arrested for allegedly groping woman on Southwest flight claims Trump ‘says it’s ok to grab women’



oh that’s makes it OK then. i really try to find the intelligence in everyone. these guys challenge me.


Ted the Turd blames the victim


Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) on Wednesday blamed Democratic politicians for “encouraging” over-the-top political behavior and rhetoric after authorities intercepted a series of suspicious packages sent to prominent Democrats and CNN earlier in the day.

Cruz said on MSNBC’s “Meet the Press Daily” that all sides should tone down their rhetoric and disagree in a civil manner. When asked if President Trump could do more to aid that effort, Cruz shifted his focus to Democrats’ rhetoric.

“I think the media always focuses on on the president,” Cruz said. “There are too many Democratic politicians that are actively encouraging this.”

The Texas senator then cited comments from Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), who in June urged supporters to confront Trump administration officials in public spaces.

Cruz singled out Waters hours after Capitol Police intercepted a suspicious package at a congressional mail-sorting facility addressed to her.


Here’s Teddy


hahahahaha again. what a putz.


Well Trumpcorp is appearing in Mosinee Wi, (about 2 hours west of Green Bay) anyway Viukmir Baldwins Opp) is doing the proverbial warm up for Trumpcorp and the idiots in the crowd are chanting “Lock her up” like nothing happened, embarrassed to be from Wi tonight considering todays events 😥😥.


They are everywhere. But there’s more of us! But we have to show up to vote them out!


Bernie’s Times op ed. Im sure it will be in tomorrow’s thread also

The Senate voted 55 to 44 to delay consideration of the resolution. Since then, this crisis has only worsened and our complicity become even greater.

Next month, I intend to bring that resolution back to the floor. We will be adding more co-sponsors, and colleagues in the House have offered a similar measure. The brutal murder of Mr. Khashoggi demands that we make clear that United States support for Saudi Arabia is not unconditional.

I very much hope that Congress will act, that we will finally take seriously our congressional duty, end our support for the carnage in Yemen, and send the message that human lives are worth more than profits for arms manufacturers.


i love that–taking their congressional duty seriously. the other side has been subtly and not so subtly spreading the message that the Congress has no such duty under the Constitution.

Emphatically not true! If the Founders had wanted to give the Executive all the power, they never would have revolted!

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