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Bernie Sanders, Lawrence Zupan face off in debate

Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders faced his Republican challenger, real estate broker Lawrence Zupan, in their first televised debate Monday. It was held by Vermont Public Radio and Vermont PBS. Both men spoke about their stance on issues that matter most to you.

The at times heated debate between Sanders and Zupan covered a wide range of topics, everything from the divisive rhetoric in the country to health care to women’s reproductive rights.


Watching Zupan is about 100 times more unpleasant than my recent illness


at least you have a sense of humor through it. you said “recent.” better?


slightly, enough to be trying to work anyways. probably not the brightest of ideas but bills demand paying.


i know it’s hard when you’re new somewhere, too. but do take care so that you get really well!


I imagine Bernies worked on his debate skills for a larger event around 2020?


Sanders, Zupan Clash in a Fiery, Wide-Ranging Debate

In a heated debate Monday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Republican challenger Lawrence Zupan gave voters a clear sense of the gulf between their political views.

Zupan repeatedly slammed Sanders’ brand of democratic socialism and said Sanders supports the kinds of policies that led to North Korea’s dictatorship and Venezuela’s failed economy. Sanders dismissed the attacks and accused Zupan of echoing national Republicans.

The debate, jointly sponsored by Vermont Public Radio and Vermont PBS, covered a wide range of hot-button political topics, and the two candidates agreed on almost nothing.

Sanders responded to a question about the convoy of people walking through Mexico toward the United States by restating his support for comprehensive immigration reform and the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, also known as DACA.

Zupan said he sees the convoy as an incursion.

“I’m asking who’s behind that, first of all — and what is the government of the United States supposed to do when there’s an organized invasion of the country’s borders?” Zupan said. 

If elected, the Republican real estate broker’s first move on immigration, he said, would be to “secure the border so that we could stanch the flow of blood, so to speak.”


I’m sure that’s a close race.




As He Considers a 2020 Presidential Run, Bernie Sanders Refuses to Pledge to Serve Full Senate Term

During a U.S. Senate candidate forum Monday night in Winooski, incumbent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) would not commit to serving a full six-year term if reelected. 

“Right now, my focus is on the year 2018, but if you’re asking me to make an absolute pledge as to whether I’ll be running for president or not, I’m not going to make that pledge,” Vermont’s junior senator said. “The simple truth is I have not made that decision. But I’m not going to sit here and tell you that I may not run. I may. But on the other hand, I may not.” 

Asked again whether he would commit to serving out a third term, Sanders said, “If I’m elected president of the United States? Mmm. Probably impossible to be a senator and a president at the same time. So the answer to that is probably no. But I haven’t made that decision as to whether I’ll run.”


These positive signs of Bernie 2020 give me hope for a better future.


Bernie’s constant raising the subject has had a positive impact.


Yep hes running and his language supports he really thinks he can win this time, but being the pragmatist that he is hes just covering his bases.


He’s also building the bench of young leaders who can take over after wrinkles like us pass on. LOL.


I really don’t want to change my avatar pix just yet so he better 🙂




I really am rooting for Paulette Jordan. She is a true moderate and will help her state yugely.


Dallas County Democrats could ride Beto O’Rourke’s coattails in area critical to his Senate hopes

Beto O’Rourke’s Dallas County onslaught of appearances could result in victories for Democrats up and down the local ballot, even if the Senate candidate comes up short in his statewide race against Ted Cruz.

For O’Rourke, Dallas County voters are critical to his strategy to upset Cruz. An overwhelming showing in the blue county could give him the boost he needs to be the first Democrat to win a statewide race since 1994.

With the O’Rourke/Cruz showdown leading the way, Dallas County is ground zero for Texas politics, including a critical congressional battle and hard-fought state legislative races.

“He has created interest in a political campaign with people who otherwise would not have been engaged,” said Matt Angle, a Democratic strategist. “He’s gotten potential voters to pay attention to the other candidates on the ballot. Those candidates could not have gotten the attention of voters without Beto O’Rourke.”


Beto O’Rourke Grabbed a Political Third Rail—And Electrified His Campaign

There are few issues Democratic politicians have been more reluctant to address than the NFL-player protests. “It doesn’t get talked about by candidates and office holders, because no one wants to mess up and have that compromise that ability to win an election or stay in office,” Beto O’Rourke, the Democrat running for the Senate in Texas, told me. “It’s also precisely the thing where if you do not talk about it and don’t have these kind of conversations publicly, it’s never going to get better.”


and we love him for it. :O)


Will Fort Worth’s Tarrant County remain America’s most conservative large county?

Fort Worth and its outlying ranches and suburbs are mostly a backwater in Texas politics. Gerrymandered to the hilt, the national parties have mostly ignored this county.

But since Trump’s election, things have changed here thanks to organic Democratic activism and O’Rourke’s high-risk bet to stake his entire statewide strategy on flipping this county to his party.

“Tarrant County is where the energy is, where the excitement is, where they’re blowing the early voting totals from the last midterm out of the water,” he said on Friday, while campaigning on the southeast side of town. “It’s why we are so encouraged.”

tally JD and I up as two tarrant county votes.

on a side note Ive noticed increasing beto signage up on a lot of the hispanic owned businesses in the area


The other largely unreported story is Beto’s campaigning in every county in Texas aka similar to the 50-State-Strategy. That’s why I’ve always felt he would win.


Yep me too and in general the progressives that are doing best are he ones with the strongest work ethic, like Alexandria wearing out her shoes, Beto has probably worn out some tires 😀


And some skateboard wheels!


T and R, jcitybone!! I sure hope this means you’re on the mend, LD. 🙂 I recall your getting sick during the BNR days. You and JD were living on a super tight budget, but that didn’t stop you from hosting the BNR. Things sure have changed in a positive way now for you both. Creamsicle Dumbo is the result of 38 years under the FRightwingnut Curse of Raygun. Ronbo was noticeably senile in his 2nd term. Gawd only knows what it would have like if FB and Twitler had existed back then. ?


thanks orl! bnr days were tough! though mostly because it wasnt any kind of planned and all happened by accident. The first 30 or so posts were put together with no keyboard, among a slew of other crazy things that happened along the way!

but here we are now, with our own little nest and no reliance on others’ platforms or fears some social media site will delete us for accurate reporting


@LieparDestin You’ve done one hell of a job getting the TPW up and going. The BNR was a real “home” for a lot of us even though it was on the TOP.


A Trump supporter in action


The 3 minute video shows the hate that Trump spreads. It is worth a view.

The black women waiting for AAA said they could smell the alcohol on the breath of Susan Westwood, the slurring, unsteady white woman who had approached them in a dark parking lot in Charlotte. But Westwood had no trouble conveying a racially tinged message straight out of the Jim Crow era.

She is white, she told the two black women, and a resident of the apartment complex in one of the city’s most exclusive neighborhoods where they happened to be standing. She makes $125,000 a year and pays hefty rent, and her children attend Myers Park High School.

First Westwood asked: “Is your boyfriend here? Is your baby daddy here?” Repeatedly, she raised her cellphone in a mocking tone: “Mmm, girl girl, I got you. I got you girl, girl.” Westwood demanded to know where the women lived and screamed, “You’re not going to sell drugs here!”

Then she warned it could be dangerous hanging out in the mostly white neighborhood.

“Do I need to bring out my concealed weapon, too?” she asked the women. “This is North Carolina, by the way.”

For her efforts the racist got her just rewards.

The drunken outburst also cost Westwood her job at the local cable company that paid her $125,0000 and allowed her to live in the exclusive community.

“The incident recorded in Charlotte is a blatant violation of Charter’s code of conduct and clearly disregards the company’s commitment to inclusion and respectful behavior,” Patrick Paterno, a spokesman for Spectrum Communication, wrote in a statement about the incident. “As such, Ms. Westwood’s employment with the company has been terminated, effective immediately.”


Well, how’s about that?? Guess Charter Cable is worried about the bad PR. Hopefully, that’s a positive sign.


About time KARMA bit one of these asshats right in the ass :).


Obviously it is TOO early to be meaningful. But it does make a point.


Never mind the chatter about 20 or 25 Democrats running for the presidential nomination in 2020. In the media primary — the scramble for newspaper headlines, TV hits and social media mentions — there are only six or seven contenders.

Next year, when candidates will likely need to meet a polling threshold to claim a place in the critical early debates, that ability to generate media attention will be more important than ever. And over the past three months, the candidates creating the bulk of it — Sen. Bernie Sanders, former Vice President Joe Biden, lawyer Michael Avenatti and Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and Cory Booker — have dominated the discussion.

More than two-thirds of a burgeoning field’s traditional online print media mentions — and nearly three-quarters of its social media output — have been about those 2020 prospects, according to a data analysis conducted for POLITICO by the media intelligence company Meltwater.

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My point is that Bernie is getting the publicity that he deserves.


This is one of the secret strengths of people power, though the media is fundamentally an establishment tool, its also needs ‘eyes’ so just the fact so many people are interested in Bernie forces them to cover him even though they would prefer not to.

The fact he gets more coverage than Biden their ‘golden boy du jour’ proves how powerful it is.


I just love this response from Andrew Gillum.


Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum slapped back at Donald Trump late Monday in a post to Twitter, comparing the president to a pig even as he claimed to be unwilling to trade insults with Trump.

Trump, an endorser of GOP nominee Ron DeSantis in Florida’s tight gubernatorial race, labeled Gillum — without elaborating — a “stone cold thief” in an interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Monday night.

Gillum, the mayor of Tallahassee, Fla., responded to the president on Twitter, writing: “I heard @realDonaldTrump ran home to @FoxNews to lie about me. But as my grandmother told me — never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. So ignore him and vote, Florida!”

underlining by me.


His Grandmother is a very wise woman 😉


He has this down pat. Open mouth spew a lie!
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This should interest orlbucfan.

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Two deadly algae blooms have upended Florida tourism and may have repercussions at the polls.

SARASOTA COUNTY, Fla. — Molly E. Bowen was raised Republican by her Republican mom on this sliver of crescent coast. In a GOP stronghold where Republicans outnumber Democrats nearly 2 to 1, she proudly voted for Donald Trump two years ago.

Yet she won’t be voting Republican in Florida’s U.S. Senate race. The environment is among her top concerns, and she is not impressed with Republican Gov. Rick Scott, who is running for Senate as his tenure comes to an end after two terms.

“Good riddance,” Bowen said. “I’m going to vote ‘no party affiliation,’ and everyone else should, too.”

Forget about a blue wave. Scott is dealing with red tide — a gigantic outbreak of toxic algae that has bedeviled this part of the Gulf Coast for more than a year. Although polls had earlier shown Scott locked in a dead heat with incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson, the governor is behind. His environmental record threatens to cost Republicans what had been seen as a prime opportunity to pad the GOP majority in the U.S. Senate.


WAPO not even getting into the blue green algae pollution which has been an ecological disaster to our inland water bodies: lakes, rivers, ponds. Add Hurricane Michael to the mix. Voting ends next Tuesday. GOPukes get lost.


Once again Claire McCaskill takes the high road. /S

edited to add this:

This is pretty rich coming from a DINO!


We so 😜!



Jonathan Swan Is a Bootlicker

You might have woken up this morning, as I did, to the Axios headline: “Exclusive: Trump to terminate birthright citizenship.” In your bleary-eyed, pre-java state, you would struggle toward the thought: What… the fuck? Can he do that? He told Axios he can, but this is also a guy who thinks exercise is bad for you because it depletes the store of energy you’re born with. He isn’t smart.

Then, as the world sharpens around you and the veil of sleep is fully lifted, you think: So, he probably can’t just change the Constitution with one stroke of his pen, and it happens to be a week before the midterms. Why would a news outlet run with that headline? Why is this a thing?

But, as you’ll see if you watch the clip itself, this is less a news story than it is a press release. This is a news outlet willingly staging a press event for a racist administration.

What a revolting display. Axios’ Jonathan Swan is eager to help the president explain this little gambit with almost no pushback—when the president says other countries don’t have birthright citizenship, which is a lie, Swan says nothing

But he’s also eager to prove himself as a good and clever little boy. “Exactly,” he says, when Trump says he can change the Constitution with an executive order. It’s chummy and sordid, but it’s also just… pathetic. He looks like he won a contest to be there. He’s fucking laughing!

If you had any lingering doubt about how Swan sees this story, his giddy tweets this morning make clear that this is nothing but a personal triumph for him and his outlet.

This is not some journalistic feud. It matters. Whether or not Trump is wholly talking out of his humongous ass on this particular matter, his administration is counting on the existence of a dutiful, subordinate press that prizes scoops above principles




It is hard to believe that David Brooks actually gets paid to be an opinion writer.


An overpaid RWinger born with a gold spoon up his rear.


Just been thinking about some of the past presidents that embraced their presidential role of “healer in cheif” Granted they had speech writers working for them but the key is the sincerity of the delivery. With Trumpcorp is Christ sake you mean i have to do this again!!!
Just a few examples that i remember and thought about.

President Carter and his address of the failed hostage rescue and “the buck stopped with him” I cant even imagine that Trumpcorp would step up that way>.

President Reagan the space shuttle was a very good speech to me’

President Bush 911 at the trade center ruins united the country

President Obama Sandyhook massacre you almost could feel his pain on tv.

Their are more moments but those stand out to me and to be honest their probably a few more that should be on the list but the point is that part of being president is to lead in healing when the country is hurting from a major tragedy. Trumpcorp doesn’t have this ability at all just dosent get it and never will.



Mike Pence made a Big mistake!


A little follow up.


The “Messianic rabbi” who outraged many Jews by invoking the name of Jesus while delivering a prayer in memory of the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre victims was also spurned Tuesday by the organization that ordained him.

Loren Jacobs, who was invited onstage by Vice President Mike Pence to speak at a rally in Michigan for a GOP congressional candidate, was defrocked 15 years ago, according to a spokeswoman for the Union of Messianic Jewish Congregations.

Meanwhile, mainstream Jewish leaders and experts on the faith said they could not fathom why GOP congressional candidate Lena Epstein, herself a longtime member of a Detroit–area synagogue, invited Jacobs at all to her rally Tuesday because in their eyes he’s not even a real Jew, let alone a rabbi.


This is a good thing!


Washington. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called Tuesday for an end to all air strikes in Yemen’s populated areas conducted by the Saudi-led coalition, reported AFP.
“The time is now for the cessation of hostilities, including missile and UAV (drone) strikes from Huthi-controlled areas into the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates,” Pompeo said in a statement.
“Subsequently, coalition air strikes must cease in all populated areas in Yemen.”




British intelligence was aware of a Saudi Arabia plot to kidnap dissident Jamal Khashoggi three weeks before he was brutally murdered in Istanbul, and that a warning to the Middle East country was ignored, a British newspaper has dramatically claimed.

The Sunday Express reported that British intercepts of communications by the Kingdom General Intelligence Directorate revealed that a member of the Saudi royal family gave orders for Mr Khashoggi to be kidnapped and returned to Saudi Arabia. High ranking intelligence sources told the paper that the instructions “left the door open’’ for other actions should the journalist be troublesome.

The paper quoted an unnamed source saying: “We were initially made aware that something was going in the first week of September, around three weeks before Mr Khashoggi walked into the consulate on October 2, though it took more time for other details to emerge.
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“These details included primary orders to capture Mr Khashoggi and bring him back to Saudi Arabia for questioning. However, the door seemed to be left open for alternative remedies to what was seen as a big problem.

I think that it is fair to assume that if the British new it is likely US inteligence also knew!

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