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jcitybone

Certainly not supporting him, but if he does support this progressive stuff in NY to help his national ambitions, it would be good for us here at least.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-lovett-cuomo-president-2020-20181125-story.html

If Gov. Cuomo does run for President in 2020, he might seek to use the first few months of the legislative session beginning in January as his springboard.

With the Democrats set to control both houses of the Legislature for the first time in a decade, a host of progressive legislation that has been bottled up for years by Republicans is set to move forward come January. They include strengthening the state’s abortion rights laws, additional gun control measures, and voting and other electoral reforms.

Cuomo has had an uneasy relationship with many on the the left wing of the Democratic Party even after successful efforts during his first two terms to legalize gay marriage, strengthen the state’s gun control laws, raise the state minimum wage to $15 an hour, and create a statewide paid family leave program.

“If Cuomo is going to run for President in 2020, he’s going to want to use the first three months of the legislative session to win over progressives,” said one prominent Democratic insider. “If he does big voter reforms and campaign finance reform, that’s potent.”

Even progressive activists who initially fought against Cuomo’s reelection to a third term as governor this year acknowledge quick passage of liberal initiatives could boost him nationally.

“It’s ironic,” said one. “He spent years emboldening the Republicans in the (state) Senate who blocked many of the issues that could now help him moving forward if the Democrats pass them next year.”

Benny

Benny

This is the second interview on CBS in which the book is largely ignored in the conversation.

Benny

jcitybone

More idiocy

jcitybone

Interesting article on Bernie that includes the author’s interview with him. Neither pro nor anti

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/bernie-sanders-2020-decision.html

And he still thinks he should be president. He doesn’t say this out loud, exactly. “I’m not one of those sons of multimillionaires whose parents told them they were going to become president of the United States,” he says. “I don’t wake up in the morning with any burning desire that I have to be president.” Still, he’s pretty certain he’s already the country’s second-most-important politician, and the logic for running in 2020 is obvious to him: His ideas are the best for the country, a majority of Americans will agree once they’re exposed to them, no other national politician has proved to be as uncompromised or effective a messenger of his platform as he is, and no one else seems better positioned to actually win. “If there’s somebody else who appears who can, for whatever reason, do a better job than me, I’ll work my ass off to elect him or her,” he says. But “if it turns out that I am the best candidate to beat Donald Trump, then I will probably run.” He’s been mulling the question all year as he bounds across the country. A longtime friend of Sanders’s characterizes his position as, “At this point, what does he have to lose?”

One plausible answer to that question: quite a lot. “In many ways, the world has caught up with him,” says Nina Turner, a former Ohio state senator running Our Revolution, the political organization spawned from his campaign. But even some of the people close to Sanders — all of whom agree with that assessment — are not necessarily certain another presidential campaign is the best vehicle for his cause. “Bernie is not accountable to anything,” says one longtime ally. “He thinks it’s all about him” and not always a broader movement.

Even the decision not to decide yet has caused anguish, both for Sanders personally and for anyone who might run against him in the primaries. He is now the dean of the American left — the incumbent leader, as it were, of the most energized segment of the national electorate — and everyone is watching to see how he spends the substantial political capital he has, over a four-decade career, recently accumulated.

polarbear4

It struck me as somewhat anti. But I know I’m defensive when it comes to Bernie.

polarbear4

Melania has a hallway full of blood-red trees this Christmas season. Someone added something to the photo.

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Benny

I have thoughts…but I think I’ll use some restraint.

polarbear4
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jcitybone

‘No Labels’ spent $2.5 million against House Democratic majority, now wants veto on their leadership

A group of “centrist” donors spent millions to protect some of the most vulnerable House Republicans in the 2018 election, but now is pushing to dictate the terms of who House Democrats pick to lead their new majority. The No Labels super PAC, an outside group funded heavily by rich Chicago mega-donors, spent more than $2.5 million in the 2018 campaign to buck up vulnerable House Republicans hoping to retain their positions in the face of the blue wave. Several vulnerable GOP incumbents held on, thanks in part to this group’s largess.

Now, after impeding the new Democratic majority and helping to limit the size of its majority, No Labels wants to condition which Democrat gets lead the House on a series of House rule changes designed to limit the majority’s power. The group is trying to demand that Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) or any other candidate for Speaker of the House agree to a “Break the Gridlock” package being offered by its Congressional arm, the Problem Solvers Caucus.

The package includes changes that would make it easier to remove a Speaker of the House mid-term, would put more members of the minority party on House committees, and would give the minority more power to demand votes on amendments to legislation.

Although the Problem Solvers Caucus for the current 115th Congress claimed “48 members — equally divided between Democrats and Republicans — who are committed to forging bipartisan cooperation on key issues,” the 24 Republicans did not hold together to require any moderation or problem solving. Had they insisted on these rules in the current Congress, they had the votes to force Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) to make those changes, but never did. Now, after spending heavily to deny the Democrats the majority, No Labels seeks to hold them to a different standard.

According to the No Labels website, nine Democratic “Problem Solvers” have suggested they will withhold their support for Pelosi unless she agrees to their demands. No Labels is actively pushing for more members of the group to use their clout to force the changes through. Regardless of the merits of their ideas, it seems odd that the people who spent millions to deny the Democrats the majority now feel entitled to a veto over who will lead it.

polarbear4

I used to joke that Republicans ran as a Democrat to infiltrate the ranks. Maybe it’s not a joke. More likely it’s just that corporate money he races all party lines.

Hopefully, they cannot get the votes.

polarbear4

Apparently they do have the votes. The Intercept.

polarbear4

I’m feeling like i have to help stop this somehow. This could literally stop all of our work and money in the election and beyond.

Not just blocking M4A, etc., but also gutting Social Security, etc. I’m freaking out here.

polarbear4

Hi! If you're a pundit who's about to declare that @Ocasio2018 "needs to brush up on policy" please consider focusing instead on the 180+ old white men in Congress who think that the existence of snow disproves global warming

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orlbucfan

I am just beside myself with joy. NASA did it again in spite of fascist budget cuts. The Insight space probe/laboratory just landed successfully on Mars! T and R to the usual excellent TPW suspects!!

wi60

First Pix from the probe
NASA's InSight Mars lander acquired this image of the area in front of the lander using its lander-mounted, Instrument Context Camera (ICC) with the ICC image field of view of 124 x 124 degrees, on Mars, November 26, 2018. NASA/JPL-Caltech/Handout via REUTERS

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jcitybone

If he does run, which seems more likely now, I think that he represents a big obstacle to Bernie because his support is coming from the same young demographic.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/26/beto-orourke-no-longer-ruling-out-2020-presidential-run/

Beto O’Rourke, coming off a closer-than-expected race against U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, is no longer ruling out a 2020 presidential run.

During his Senate campaign, the El Paso congressman declared he would “not be a candidate for president in 2020” regardless of the outcome. But on Monday, O’Rourke kept the door open to a White House bid during a town hall in El Paso and admitted his resistance to higher office was no longer as unequivocal.

During the town hall, an audience member asked O’Rourke if he was running in 2020. In response, O’Rourke said he is currently focused on spending time with his family and finishing his term in the House, which ends Jan. 3. “And then,” O’Rourke added, “Amy and I will think about what we can do next to contribute to the best of our ability to this community.”

jcitybone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/beto-orourke-2020-town-hall-race/2018/11/26/95dd3bc2-f199-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.42017225227a&utm_source=reddit.com

O’Rourke, 46, a three-term congressman from Texas, would enter the race with less elected experience than many of his rivals but a proven ability to excite Democratic voters in a political era dominated by President Trump.

In a crowded field that could number more than 20 candidates, charisma is likely to be key to attracting attention of early voters and the small-dollar fundraising that most candidates will need to survive the early stages of the primaries.

With just weeks remaining in his congressional job, O’Rourke had already made clear that he intends to remain a part of the national conversation, penning occasional online essays, including a piece Sunday critiquing President Trump’s treatment of asylum seekers on the southern border.

TheLeftistheCenter

I agree he is the only real threat to Bernie, but he has only been held up to Cruz and as such shines very bright and I dont think when them time comes that he is held next to Bernie, he will look so good any more.

I also don’t trust his intentions since he seems to be only about himself and not using his new found fame to further anything meaningful. I think that will become obvious when hes held to the selfless Bernie and much will be based on who announces first.

I think Bernie needs to get out there early and just suck all the oxygen out of the room, but Bernie is more savvy than I and maybe he sees its better to let them establish themselves too much so when he announces its a lot harder for them to try and mimic him. Let Beto establish himself as the pseudo progressive he is instead of being able to come out playing a younger hipper Bernie.

At the campaign level Bernie knows what hes doing more than anyone almost, so what ever he does im sure its more than likely the right move.

jcitybone

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/418320-sanders-to-force-vote-this-week-on-us-support-for-saudi-arabia-in-yemen

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is planning to force a vote this week on ending U.S. support for Saudi Arabia’s military campaign in Yemen.

Sanders, in an email to supporters, said “this week I will go to the floor of the United States Senate” to force a vote on his resolution.

“Despite Trump’s venal support for the Saudi regime, I am confident that we now stand an excellent chance to win this vote which I plan on bringing back to the Senate floor this week,” Sanders added in the email.

A spokesman confirmed that Sanders will vote this week and is in talks with leadership to lock down a Wednesday or Thursday vote.

The vote on the resolution comes as Congress is searching for ways to respond to the killing of Washington Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi.

The vote will also offer lawmakers their first chance to test a formal rebuke of the administration, after the president said last week that the slaying wouldn’t impact the U.S.-Saudi relationship.

TheLeftistheCenter

Thats another thing we have seen from Bernie, where in the past he had almost no political power and just chipped away where he could, but in gaining power he has not let it waste or been afraid to use it. He is now leading the nation and congress on many issues and has really shown the true leader he can be given the opportunity, something no one really got to see last time.

Many of the legitimate weaknesses or at least unknowns people had with him in 2016 should no longer be such an issue, he has systematically shown them all to be non issues from foreign policy, to pure leadership skill, to minority relations, to effecting real change etc etc.

polarbear4

True. Too bad that so much of the Dem machine is against him. They might voice support at times but will back someone who doesn’t want them to give up corpse donations.

polarbear4

Early voting begins today in runoff for Georgia secretary of state

Brian Kemp made GA epicenter of voter suppression in 2018

John Barrow running to protect rather than suppress voteshttps://t.co/Xvn0bqnZ9Q

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Benny

Rep. Beto O’Rourke won’t rule out a 2020 presidential bid

Other former volunteers from the failed Senate effort said they now felt free to speak about their real ambitions. “He’s the next Obama, and we weren’t allowed to say that,” said Ellen Young of El Paso of her campaign volunteering. Young said before the event that she was “hoping for a surprise announcement.”

Speaking after the event, O’Rourke’s wife, Amy O’Rourke, expressed hesitation about a possible presidential campaign, calling the prospect both flattering and “scary.” She said they had not talked to any political strategists about the prospect.

“I don’t know. To me that just seems like you have to give up so much,” she said. “I don’t know if this is a line that I or we really want to cross.”

More than any other candidate this year, O’Rourke found a way to harness social media and capture the imagination of Democrats nationally. From July to September, he raised $38 million from more than 800,000 individual contributions, breaking records for a Senate campaign.

“He is hip and he is contemporary, but there is something much deeper than that, which is he treats voters with respect,” said David Axelrod, the former strategist for Barack Obama. “I think people are hungry for that — this sense that politics can be something other than ‘The Hunger Games.’ ”

I saw a little of his town hall this afternoon. He did well, but admittedly, he was peppered with a lot of foreign policy questions, and some of them were more about the Middle East and Asia, not just immigration/asylum/border wall issues which are looming before Congress.

polarbear4

I’m surprised so many want another Obama.

Benny

He didn’t have any answers about Syria, but he clarified what are the broader questions concerning Middle East foreign policy.

Benny

Which indicates to me that he would have to bone up more about foreign policy.

jcitybone

Whatever we think of Obama here, he’s very popular among Dems.

orlbucfan

They can have him. YUPPIE/Repuke Lite. Just what we need with climate change bearing down on us!

orlbucfan

He is not ready to be PØTUS. I won’t support him nor will I support Ojeda.

polarbear4

If you’re wondering what PPI is, it’s the old DLC — ie the Wall Street Democrats. https://t.co/cItCgIMZyY

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) November 26, 2018

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polarbear4

I’m going to try this again.

Benny

orlbucfan

Once a stupid ahole, always a stupid ahole. Plus, a liar to boot!

Benny

I’m not a fan of Pelosi, but this is the work of Mark Penn and his ilk. If one looks at this list, wasn’t Lipinski backed by Pelosi in the primary?

Bet now that Pelosi wishes she had sat out on her endorsement.

jcitybone

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/26/nancy-pelosi-speaker-no-labels-mark-penn/

A SMALL GROUP of billionaire-backed Democrats, part of the so-called Problem Solvers Caucus in Congress, has launched a last-ditch effort that threatens to derail Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s election as House speaker.

They’ve framed their challenge to Pelosi, a California Democrat, in terms of good government and high-minded bipartisanship. Yet the force behind their campaign is one of the most toxic and notorious partisan warriors the Democratic Party has produced in the past three decades: political and corporate consultant Mark Penn.

The Problem Solvers Caucus is made up of 12 Democrats and 12 Republicans; nine of the Democrats have publicly committed to opposing Pelosi on the House floor if she doesn’t meet their demands for House rules changes largely aimed at legislatively empowering Republicans. Combined with the holdouts from the last putsch effort, there would be enough votes to thwart Pelosi.

The Democratic chair of the Problem Solvers Caucus is Rep. Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey, who has been a protege of Penn’s since the 1990s, when he was just out of college. Gottheimer is one of the nine members making demands of Pelosi. She and the caucus will meet Tuesday afternoon to go over the group’s demands.

A more effective dog-whistler, in the 2016 campaign, would boil the Penn approach down to just four words: “Make America Great Again.” Donald Trump was named by No Labels in 2016 as an official “Problem Solver.”

A Trump surrogate accepted the award, even though two months earlier, Trump had spoken at a No Labels conference and delivered a speech larded with Trumpisms. (Since his 2017 swearing in, Gottheimer, the Problem Solvers Caucus chair, has voted with Trump more than half the time, according to FiveThirtyEight.)

Jon Favreau, a longtime aide to Obama and a co-founder of Crooked Media, said that the No Labels/Problem Solvers Caucus focus on Pelosi makes little sense with Mitch McConnell in the Senate and Trump in the White House, given how little interest those two have shown in civility or bipartisanship. But an incoherent strategy was not terribly surprising coming from Penn. “You mean the guy who Laura Ingraham recently praised for sounding just like her?” Favreau said of Penn. “Sterling track record of success as a consultant. I’d rather light my money on fire than use it to hire him for literally anything.”

polarbear4

Sad to say, but maybe she asked to be “coerced.” Do they have enough votes?

“Combined with the holdouts from the last putsch effort, there would be enough votes to thwart Pelosi.”

Intercept says yes. What can we do? Help! Eeeeeeek. People are already threatening to primary them. Must not bother them.

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/26/nancy-pelosi-speaker-no-labels-mark-penn/

polarbear4

“Gottheimer had the full-throated support of both Bill and Hillary Clinton when he ran for Congress in 2016, with Hillary Clinton calling him “something of a family member.””

orlbucfan

Murphy does not surprise me. Only thing she’s got going for her is she’s not crooked. Soto is another story and I’m puzzled by it.

Benny

Bernie to do a book talk at George Washington University tomorrow night:

BOOKS It’s never too early to start thinking about the 2020 presidential election. In his new book, Where We Go from Here: Two Years in the Resistance, Bernie Sanders reflects on his presidential campaign and two years of struggle against the current regime. Sanders will speak at GW’s Lisner Auditorium in an event curated by Politics & Prose; note that ticket price includes a copy of the book, but there will not be a signing (or pre-signed books) at the event. $33, 7 PM.

Source: washingtonian

My guess is that it will be on Book TV in the near future.

jcitybone

But the Trump administration and its allies in Congress will, of course, ignore this analysis. Denying climate change, no matter what the evidence, has become a core Republican principle. And it’s worth trying to understand both how that happened and the sheer depravity involved in being a denialist at this point.

Wait, isn’t depravity too strong a term? Aren’t people allowed to disagree with conventional wisdom, even if that wisdom is supported by overwhelming scientific consensus?

Yes, they are — as long as their arguments are made in good faith. But there are almost no good-faith climate-change deniers. And denying science for profit, political advantage or ego satisfaction is not O.K.; when failure to act on the science may have terrible consequences, denial is, as I said, depraved.

Indeed, it’s depravity, on a scale that makes cancer denial seem trivial. Smoking kills people, and tobacco companies that tried to confuse the public about that reality were being evil. But climate change isn’t just killing people; it may well kill civilization. Trying to confuse the public about that is evil on a whole different level. Don’t some of these people have children?

And let’s be clear: While Donald Trump is a prime example of the depravity of climate denial, this is an issue on which his whole party went over to the dark side years ago. Republicans don’t just have bad ideas; at this point, they are, necessarily, bad people.

jcitybone

President Trump had a clear message Monday when asked about the core conclusion of a scientific report issued by his own administration: that climate change will batter the nation’s economy. “I don’t believe it,” he said.

Mr. Trump then laid responsibility for cleaning the atmosphere on other countries like China and Japan: “Right now we’re at the cleanest we’ve ever been, and that’s very important to me. But if we’re clean but every other place on Earth is dirty, that’s not so good. So I want clean air. I want clean water. Very important.”

The remarks fit a pattern, and not just for their bluntness. In almost two years since taking office, Mr. Trump has denied the scientific reality of climate change and taken aggressive steps that will increase emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases — despite unequivocal scientific evidence that those pollutants are warming the planet to dangerous levels.

“Since virtually the first day the administration came into office they have systematically worked to reverse policies in place to reduce greenhouse gas emissions,” said Robert N. Stavins, a professor of environmental economics at Harvard. “But this report, which is mandated by law, shows that greenhouse gas emissions are going to have profound effects on the United States in this century.”

orlbucfan

This yahoo is so stupid…….and so full of it……..words fail me. But he’s managed to con a bunch of ignorant, backwards, white trailer park trash into believing everything he utters.

orlbucfan

AS long as there are suckers believing Jesus is coming back, you will have this sort of mad, depraved nonsense!

jcitybone

Another California Republican is going down. This one was called for the wrong candidate. Cox supports M4A so it’s a good win.

Cox, who’s running in the 21st district, laid out a similarly incremental approach. “We know we can have it, provide quality, affordable health care for all at a much less price than we’re paying today. I do support Medicare for All, but that might be a long stretch to get to,” he said in an interview following Obama’s rally on Saturday.

First, Cox said he would support other steps, including adding a public option to the ACA that would allow anyone to buy into Medicaid. “Medicaid for all, that could be done right now. You could buy in,” he said.

How ‘Medicare for All’ became a rallying cry in California’s most conservative districts

Benny

It’s now called too close to call, but this is encouraging news!

jcitybone

Looks like based on what vote remains to be counted that Cox should win.

polarbear4

M4A! So many don’t just want it, they need it.

polarbear4

It is not accurate to describe opponents of Medicare for All as “moderate” or “centrist.” Empirical polling data shows this policy is supported by most Americans. Opponents, therefore, are accurately described as “extremists” far outside the mainstream center of public opinion.

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polarbear4

Substituted link to article in separate post.

polarbear4

Facebook Censorship of Alternative Media ‘Just the Beginning,’ Warns Top Neocon Insider

Facebook Censorship of Alternative Media ‘Just the Beginning,’ Warns Top Neocon Insider

polarbear4

polarbear4

Sorry LD. Can’t delete anymore. Realized it might be too offensive for this site.

humphrey

Why delete it. It seems quite fine to me.

polarbear4

Oh good. Thought it might be a bit much. Thx.

wi60

Didn’t offend me PB

jcitybone

Well he had no hope of winning, but good to see him off the table. Still hope he comes through for voting reform in NY.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/418470-cuomo-rules-out-presidential-run

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) on Tuesday ruled out a potential bid for the presidency in 2020, saying that he has a “full plate” in his current role.

“I am ruling it out. I ran for governor. I have a full plate. I have many projects. I’m going to be here doing the job of governor. … I’m governor of New York and I have a lot to do,” he said in an interview on WNYC’s “The Brian Lehrer Show.”

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