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polarbear4

Ghio wants to go after Zinke.

Democrats in the House must hold administration officials accountable for their unethical and illegal actions. They should start with the Department of Interior and its Secretary Ryan Zinke, who is facing no less than 17 federal investigations. Zinke even tried to fire the DOI’s own inspector general to take the heat off himself after she referred one of the investigations to the Department of Justice for possible criminal prosecution. The House Natural Resources Committee should convene hearings to investigate the actions of Secretary Zinke and other top officials at DOI.

Here are four obvious places to start

phatkhat

The problem will be Pelousy and her ilk, with her “civility” and “bipartisanship”. It is not about cooperation at this point. There can be no cooperation with people who literally view you as the devil. THIS IS TIME FOR WAR.

magsview

They need to be feisty, but in a productive way. Personally, I think they should come out guns blazing for health care, voters #1 concern per exit polls when:

given a choice of four issues,
41 percent pick health care as the top issue facing the country, compared with
21 percent for the economy,
23 percent immigration and
11 percent gun policy.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-2018-exit-poll-analysis-56-percent-country/story?id=59006586

Voters will, in general, get very disgusted, very quickly, if Dems squander their House majority on things that don’t positively impact their day-to-day lives.

polarbear4

If they do go for health care, how much you want to bet it will be for Warren’s incremental plan? Them neolibs loves their increments.

My bet is they go for optics–Trump–and hopefully minimum wage. The rest is beyond their corporate minds. We need to get a working voting system, like Sean King is advocating–a PAC to elect folks in charge of voting.

Of course, some of our newly electeds will be raising holy hell, i hope!

LieparDestin

polarbear4

yesyesyesyesyesyes

orlbucfan

TPWers: you have to keep something in mind. Florida has been the poster child for all sorts of corruption for decades. There are jokes about it. It’s a very sad situstion, but it is what it is.

orlbucfan

BTW, I appreciate this site and you guys/gals more than you will ever know. 🙂 🙂

magsview

I’ve been thinking about what you must be going through since last night!!! My heart is going out to you. XO

wi60

Yea the Fla results took an edge off Walkers stunning loss– but kudos Orl you called it !!! I was cautiously optimistic

polarbear4

{{{{❤️}}}}

Benny

Is it possible for someone to win after they have conceded?

Benny

Gillum will need 57,000 votes to win, and they will all have to come from Miami-Dade. I’m not certain there’s enough, but OTH, if he gets closer, he could command a recount.

polarbear4

I’m only halfway through, but Thomas Frank (in this RealNews panel) is very upset about how the corpse Dems will take this as a sign that their ways are good and double down on neolib policies.

polarbear4

Looks like it’s only part of it. Interesting bunch–i’m thinking a subscription would get the whole thing? surprising that they don’t have a link to subscribe when it ends, though, even though I’m not right now.

phatkhat

I saw Abrams last night on CNN say she will fight for a runoff, and she didn’t concede. Is that still holding this morning? I hope it is! She should have had a landslide, and would have without the machinations of her opponent. It’s very close even WITH the vote suppressi9on.

polarbear4

Yes. She’s still in it

polarbear4

Don’t forget, even optical scanners of paper ballots can be hacked.

Another one: DHS Confirms That Optical Scan Vote-Counting Machines Easily Hacked by Russians or Otherwise, https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/DHS-Confirms-That-Optical-Scan-Vote-Counting-Machines-Easily-Hacked-By-Russians-or-Otherwise

There are more articles on teh google.

phatkhat

At least the paper ballots make a recount feasible, though. It matters not in Arkansas. Solid red, as usual. Though some of the Dems did better than I expected, even winning some precincts, though not enough to take any offices.

We DID, however, win the minimum wage hike by a large margin! Won’t affect me, as Home Depot pays $11 to start, anyhow, and I got my tiny annual raise. But for all those laboring at dollar stores, fast food joints, etc., it is a big help.

There will be new casinos, meh, as well. At least they do have a lot of jobs to offer.

We also got a new voter ID law that promises to be useful in preventing minority votes. Loopholes big enough to drive hubs’ semi through.

polarbear4

Sounds good! Especially the minimum wage. Sorry about the voter ID. You’d think it would make it easier!

Here, we lost a big one where we’ll be on the hook to private developers for years to come. It sounded good, “affordable housing,” but there are no rent caps or other regs. Our property taxes are huge partly bc we have no sales tax. Not sure why the govt. always wants to outsource. We had to change our constituion to do it and you’d think that would make people pause. oh well, it is what it is. I’m hoping the city will have to put any specific bond issue on the ballot, at least. We’ll see.

We voted down an anti-abortion one. Yay!

Many here supported this bc no real progressive coalition came out against it–maybe because of the optics.

i’m grateful that we have a lot of good people, too. Trying to feel better about yesterday.

Benny

Drumpf at the presser said Faso, Roskum, and Comstock all lost because they didn’t want “the embrace.”

magsview

Paging John Gotti, paging John Gotti!

magsview

Good if true!

polarbear4

hahahahahaha! i’m so glad he lost! what a phew!

wi60

Kobash and Walker whom are Koch owned assets both lost last night. 🙂

wi60

About time something came back to bite him in the ass, he’s gotten away with so much shit over the years.

polarbear4

Midterms 2018: Stacey Abrams Holds Out Hope in the Georgia Governor’s Race

But, as can happen with election maps, the picture began slowly to change. “The energy is great in here,” Sheryl Gardener, a forty-nine-year-old black psychotherapist, told me. “The numbers earlier were a little off, but I’m not giving up.” A prominent Atlanta politics reporter told me Tuesday morning that he thought Kemp would win by a close margin. A powerful member of Atlanta’s moderate business community had predicted a runoff. No one I spoke to confidently predicted an Abrams victory, except, as we spoke on her bus less than two weeks earlier, Abrams herself. “I’m going to win outright,” she told me. “I’m going to win the votes of some conservatives.” She said so convincingly. She thought her clear message on expanding Medicaid in Georgia could win. Her support for sensible gun control, too. She did not avoid denouncing the President, as Jon Ossoff did when he tried to turn a historically conservative Georgia congressional district blue, to great fanfare, in 2017.

By ten past one in the morning, Abrams had narrowed the gap to two points. Many reports had yet to come in from Democratic strongholds, a speaker reminded the crowd. Tens of thousands of absentee and provisional ballots remained to be counted, too. The Abrams campaign announced, from the stage, that a runoff “is likely.” The campaign staffer continued, “We won’t know anything certain, we think, until tomorrow.”

Abrams came out shortly afterward. The margin was a point and a half in her opponent’s favor. The Kemp campaign would soon signal that it considered the race all but decided—“I think it’s very apparent we do have our next governor on our hands,” the chair of the state’s Republican Party told Kemp’s crowd, who’d gathered in Athens—but Abrams wasn’t conceding. “Voices remain to be heard,” she told her crowd. “Across our state, folks are opening up the dreams of voters in absentee ballots, and . . . I can promise you tonight we’ll make sure every vote is counted.”

TheLeftistheCenter

I think Bernies next push should be for updating our voting system, with all the issues yesterday right now there is a good chance he could get some momentum on the issue.

polarbear4

❤️

magsview

orlbucfan

The Democratic Party is nothing more than GOPuke Lite with a few (I hope) exceptions. That’s why this BS went down with these high turnouts. I hope to whatever Pelosi is not elected Speaker.

polarbear4

Hard to overstate how strongly Medicaid won last night, mostly in red states
—3 states (ID, NE, UT) passed ballots to expand Medicaid
—2 states (ME, KS) elected governors likely to expand, too

Works out to about 500k people gaining coverage.https://t.co/bBBwvAy2IZ

— Sarah Kliff (@sarahkliff) November 7, 2018

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polarbear4

500K people… That’s just not a major achievement. It shows the peculiar genius of Democrats for making creating issues, and then delivering absolutely miserable solutions to them. On the bright side, the Democrats have managed to contain the #MedicareForAll threat for at least another election cycle.

Naked cap water cooler. https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/11/200pm-water-cooler-11-7-2018.html

Still, 500k is 500k and it’s a huge deal to every one of those people. But he has a point. If the whole party was excited and working towards M4A….

orlbucfan

Lambert Strether is a mess! 🙂

wi60

Hello All thought id pass along a recap of my night last night. The returns were coming in fast and furious last night as I would type an update and a new one would come in. I was monitoring the WI returns map as it happened and also cross referencing the 2014 race and the recall in 2012. Around 1am Brown county had about 40 wards left to report and not much left to go for Evers so I thought a recount would be the result. I couldn’t figure out why Milw had less votes than either of the 2 other elections as I figured that the Absentee’s were already counted. So just as I was going to hit the remote and call it a night I heard one of the talking heads mention something about absentees in Milw. I went to the local Milw station that was “live” yet and sure enough they were confirming that about 45k absentees had to be counted. The local reporter was allowed to follow the whole process and reported the totals. While waiting for this I did some fast math on the returns for milw. for the night and figured that Evers was going to pick up a vast amount of votes. I was excited but wanted confirmation as Brown county still wasn’t done. Safe to say that once the votes were added to Evers totals for milw. Brown county came in during this and Evers took a Yuge lead. The Karma is that Walkers own law concerning recounts will bit him in the ass most likely and make him call the Koch bros for recount money since he has to pay for it 🙂 I didn’t end up falling asleep till 3am and the alarm for work went off at 6am. As much as im excited about being Scott Free I feel everyones pain especially Orl and LD for Beto. Ive been waiting for a long time to play this star wars celebration vid 8 long years!!!!!

Fear not Tpw’ers the die has been cast and its the beginning of the end for the old R no matter what crowd as they pass on. By 2020 more kids will be able to vote and people like Bernie, Beto, many others will have inspired them. Good triumphs over evil the good just has to work harder!!!!

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Benny

I’m certain Kimberly Clark will miss him, so they will send him off with a roll or two of TP.

wi60

used I hope–its been that bad here!!! Tonette Walker has to be happy, her hubby is now free to go make some real money as she once said 🙂

orlbucfan

Hey bro, don’t worry about me. I am super-thrilled Walker is history. Folks on here forget FL has been so corrupted for years it’s beyond funny. Hubby is a diehard Central FL cracker and he was super pissed off over Gillum and Sick Rott. We are economically set so will be fine.

polarbear4

Wooooo Hooooo! Congrats on making it through the day.

too cool vid

Benny

As much of America voted, some chose not to or couldn’t
Wed, 11/07/2018 -| The Associated Press

ATLANTA (AP) — For some, it’s a privilege lost. Others are disillusioned by a system they say does nothing for them. Others still are turned off by the anger and divisiveness they see as ripping the country apart.As Americans on Tuesday voted in midterm elections largely seen as a referendum of President Donald Trump’s first two years in office, many people stayed home.
According to AP VoteCast, a national survey of the electorate, nonvoters said the biggest reasons for them not voting were they didn’t like politics generally and they don’t know enough about the candidates’ positions. Few said it was because they did not know where to vote, it takes too much time or they didn’t have the required identification.
Nationally, 70 percent of registered voters who chose not to vote in the midterm election were younger than 45. A wide share of those who did not vote — around 8 in 10 — did not have a college degree. About as many nonvoters were Democrats (32 percent) as Republicans (32 percent).
The Associated Press spoke to some who either chose not to vote or were not able to:
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Truth Graf, 57, wasn’t able to vote after being convicted of arson and cocaine possession for what she calls “an act of desperation.” She burned her house down during the housing crisis to avoid foreclosure, and her right to vote won’t be restored until she’s off probation in 2040. “I’ll be 80 when I can vote again. It’s devastating to me to be sitting here on Election Day,” Graf said, as she rested her elbows on her kitchen table in Woodstock, Georgia. “I believe so strongly in the process of having a voice and my voice has been taken away.”
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Debbie Key, 58, doesn’t believe her vote will make a difference. “I’m a little disillusioned,” she said as she walked out of the cooler while at work at Brenda’s House of Flowers in Woodstock, Georgia. “I am not educated enough on policy.” She added: “And what is presented to me through commercials, TV ads, forget it. It’s just not enough for me to have an opinion. I’m pretty much ambivalent. Nothing lights me up.”
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Oscar Ramirez, 61, emigrated from Cuba and has voted in past elections, but the divisive political climate has given him pause. “I thank God and this country every day for what they gave me,” Ramirez said as he unloaded spices to be delivered to a market in Woodstock, Georgia. “It makes me sick the way they go at each other.” He added: “Republicans and Democrats, they just go at each other and all we get are promises. They worry more about each other than us. I see from the past once they get up there they forget about the little people.”
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Charles Shields, 71, didn’t feel like he will get a fair deal, no matter who wins. “I didn’t see a reason to vote. I feel like if I vote, it really does no good,” he said as he stood on his porch with his dogs at his home in Atlanta. “I feel like a new man going in is a good man, but when he gets in there, that’s when he turns into a different person. I’ve heard just about everything they could say.” Still, he said, he contributes in other ways. “What I usually do is get a sign of who I like and ride around with it on my car so I feel like that is helping.”
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Georgia State University student Ebony Short, 22, spent part of Tuesday studying in their room. “Neoliberalism is just as bad as conservatism. Capitalism is perpetuating the globalization of fascism, and that’s another reason why I’m not going to vote,” said Short, who has voted on local city council elections but sees higher-level races as furthering the cause of imperialism. “I’m not going to shame people for voting, but I want people to understand that you also on that same token shouldn’t shame someone who is using not voting as a tactic as well. How can you be upset at people who are demanding more from the system?”
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Emory University student Omar Hernandez, 20, simply ran out of time. “I would have had to file an absentee ballot because I’m from Florida, and with exams and school, I’ve been just overwhelmed,” said Hernandez, who was studying organic chemistry on his laptop as he waited for a haircut in Atlanta. “In all honesty, I feel like voting is a place where everyone can feel like they’re making a contribution to society, just a way of keeping hope for the masses, like making them feel they have a say in the government and they really don’t.”
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Jay Philbert, 38, said he decided never to vote again after voting for President George W. Bush and then for President Barack Obama. “Democrats, Republicans, same thing. Left wing, right wing. I don’t have time for it. I don’t know that my vote really counts,” Philbert said as he worked on a car at Intown Auto Care in Decatur, Georgia. “The Affordable Care Act is not affordable. I have a motto I live by. If it doesn’t make my life better, I don’t do it. Drinking don’t make my life better, I quit drinking. Smoking don’t make my life better, I quit smoking. Voting don’t make my life better, I quit voting.”
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Justin Lee, 25, said he has never voted. “My friends told me I need to, and I know Georgia has a small Asian population, so it actually matters if I vote or not, to voice our population’s best interest. They tell me my vote counts and I think I should (vote),” said Lee who owns D92 Korean BBQ and said he works seven days a week, sometimes 12 or 13 hours a day. “I’m not well educated in politics, I spend all my time working. I wish it was easier to vote, like on the phone.”

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/2018-11-07/much-america-voted-some-chose-not-or-couldnt.html

Benny

I just like the idea that a Dem Socialist is in Congress!

wi60

She’s one of a hundred women that won Tuesday!!!!! 2020 is next ladies.

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orlbucfan

You are bad, 🙂 I am so glad that worthless piece of shit Walker is history!

Benny

Briahna Gray at the Intercept was at AOC’s victory celebration last night and reported back this morning:

But halfway through Ocasio-Cortez’s victory speech, the politics of the outside world breached the ebullient sanctum of the party. CNN had called Beto O’Rourke’s loss to Ted Cruz, whose face hung above the room on large screens, temporarily tipping attention away from Ocasio-Cortez’s remarks.

It took a beat before Ocasio-Cortez realized what had happened. She had been about to hit one of her more popular points — highlighting the gap between America’s unprecedented wealth and the paltry support offered to the poorest among us — when groans escaped from the crowd.

“Right now, in the wealthiest nation in the history of the world, our greatest scarcity is not a lack of resources —” Ocasio-Cortez paused and repeated the line before realizing that the dispirited crowd wasn’t reacting to her words, but to the screen above their heads. “Oh, sorry guys. I was like, ‘Whoa! Room turned fast!’”
The crowd laughed, grateful, it seemed, for some levity in the face of a hard-felt defeat. “But, you know what?” improvised Ocasio-Cortez, sensitive to the fact that the crowd needed comforting before she continued with her prepared remarks. “What we need to do as well is realize that these short-term losses do not mean that we have lost in the long run. It does not. In 2018, we turned the state of Texas purple. That’s what we did this year.” The crowd rallied.

I saw that speech last night and I was wondering why she shifted gears to talk about Beto turning Texas purple. Good instinct and an effective way to get the crowd to listen–by acknowledging their pain. She did the same thing at Netroots when a group of NOLA AA’s spoke (unplanned) to voice complaints about the expensive nature of the conference and not enough POC represented.

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/07/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-election-victory-midterms-2018/

polarbear4

So important for us hooo mans, not to mention for a politician. nice catch.

Benny

Benny

Benny

I saw the clip of the intern on Hardball, and it was clear that Trump intended not to answer the CNN reporter’s question by immediately seizing the mic from him. He tried not to touch her.

Benny

Judge for yourselves…

Benny

Benny

I guess there is some justice…

polarbear4

hee hee.

Benny

orlbucfan

Pure definition of coattails. My state is too politically destroyed to even consider it. FL has been that way for decades. C’est la vie et guerre.

Benny

Looks like Gillum has been inspired by Stacey…

polarbear4

Thank goddess.

Benny

GOS also said Gillum hired Marc Elias (a DNC lawyer). I don’t like Elias particularly, but we’ll see how this portends.

Benny

polarbear4

What the Democrats Must Do Now to Defeat Trump

A Democratic majority in the House will not only make it harder for Trump to achieve his legislative ambitions; it could also intensify the state of crisis and siege in Washington. The loss in the House of Representatives means that an array of committees—Judiciary, Intelligence, Ways and Means, Foreign Affairs, and others—will now be chaired by Democrats who can initiate, or accelerate, investigations into Trump’s past, his Presidency, and his associates. They replace Republican chairmen like Devin Nunes, who, as the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, often seemed to act less as a detached lawmaker and more like the President’s personal attorney.

The Republican leadership in the House has been dreading this prospect for months. Late last summer, Axios reported that the G.O.P. had compiled a spreadsheet of the many areas in which Trump was vulnerable to investigation. The spreadsheet includes, Axios reported, “more than one hundred formal requests from House Democrats [in] this Congress, spanning nearly every committee.” Democratic-led committees could issue subpoenas to investigate the President on a range of subjects. The Ways and Means Committee can request his tax returns. Other committees can launch more aggressive inquiries into his communications and business relations with Russia; his family businesses; possible money-laundering schemes; his payment to Stormy Daniels; the firing of the former F.B.I. director James Comey and various U.S. attorneys; the Muslim travel ban; the family-separation policy on the southern border; the response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico; Jared Kushner’s compliance with ethics laws; election security; Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin’s business dealings; and more.

The enormous role played by women, both as candidates and as voters, is historic and promises more. Some of the losing statewide candidates—O’Rourke, in Texas, Andrew Gillum, in Florida—will surely be heard from again. Obama finally seems to have entered the fray without restraint. And the Democratic House, combined with whatever is to come from the Robert Mueller investigation, will put a keener focus on any crimes and misdemeanors. But in order to defeat him, defeat him decisively, the leadership of the Democratic Party will have to get better, become more focussed—and not merely on the travesty of its outrageous and dangerous opponent.

polarbear4

Hedges can be so irritating, but this is beautifully done. And he does walk his walk, spending a lot of time working in prisons, among other things.

Benny

Looks like Rohrabacher got burned by Harley Rouda in CA-48.

Laguna Beach Democrat Harley Rouda widened his lead over incumbent Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Costa Mesa) to 3,602 votes Wednesday in the contest for the 48th Congressional District, leaving the longtime congressman fighting for his political life.
As of 5 p.m., Rouda had put more daylight between himself and Rohrabacher, with the latest results from Tuesday’s election showing him leading the race, 51% to 49%.

However, with an estimated 420,000 ballots still left to be tabulated countywide, according to the Orange County registrar of voters office, it may be some time before the dust officially settles in the closely watched race.

polarbear4
polarbear4

This cartoon of @Ocasio2018's first meeting with Schumer and Pelosi by Showtime is hilarious. pic.twitter.com/8utcVOQCT0

— Waleed Shahid (@_waleedshahid) November 7, 2018

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