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LoneStarMike

Re: Bernie Sanders: Town hall protests are just the beginning

I watched what I think was the last 9 minutes of that video and these were some of thy thoughts and observations:

While just about everything Bernie said was true, it was almost all negative for Republicans and Trump, and I’m starting to think that is another reason the MSM is having a love-fest with Bernie right now. The more time the MSM spends on attacking the Republicans, Russia and Trump, the less time they have to spend addressing problems on the Democratic side.

Let’s not talk about how Wall Street, and the media are in bed with the corporate-loving Democrats in power. Let’s deflect all that by talking about TRUMP! RUSSIA! PROTESTS AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CCONGRESS!

Then the topic turns to the the Tea Party protesters in the past, versus the protesters we are seeing today. Bernie says the Tea Party movement was funded by the Koch Brothers & Billionaires, while White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer says the same thing about the protesters today.

Erin Burnett asks Bernie if he can say with absolute certainty what Sean Spicer said re: paid protesters today – is not true. Bernie says “Look, I hope I do not shock your viewers by telling you that the White House occasionally lies, and that’s just another lie. “I think you are seeing people organizing effectively, but unlike the Tea Party, this is not being funded by billionaire class.”

But then Erin Burnett comes back and says the Tea Party was real. When it came time to vote – they voted and they swept. And to dismiss it by saying they were funded or paid is just wrong. That’s just the reality of the situation.

Bernie says something to the effect that Yes, even though Trump lost the popular vote, he did win the election. But When Erin made her comments, I don’t think she was referring to only the 2016 election. I think she was referring to all the past elections where Democrats have lost seats in Congress, state legislatures and governorships. And if that was the point she was trying to make, I think it was a good one.

But Bernie just went on to talk about the protesters of today.

Then Erin asked about the concept of Democrats being primaried – Democrats turning on other Democrats?. Bernie said something to the effect of “Look, you’re talking about a small group of people who do a great job of getting publicity.

I and a lot of people over at WayOfTheBern think Democrats who aren’t voting in the interests of the middle class should be primaried and to write us off as a small group of people didn’t really set well with me.

Then Bernie goes on to say that there will be over 100 protests this Saturday and the Republican’s haven’t seen anything yet.

I’m sure the MSM outlets who cover these protests will cover it that way, too. Anytime the media plays something up like these big protests they want us to watch, I always ask myself what else is happening that day that they might want to sweep under the rug?

Oh – that’s right. The DNC is having the Chair Election on Saturday.

https://www.c-span.org/schedule/?timezone-toggle=ET&channel=1

If you scroll down to Saturday, Feb. 25 it shows 3 hours and 40 minutes of DNC Winter Meeting: Election of DNC Chair coverage beginning at 10:00 a.m. Eastern Time.

Then at 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time it shows another hour and a half of coverage.

That’s what I’ll be watching Saturday. I can catch “highlights” of the protests later.

Don midwest

Good points.

Thanks.

Note that there were not questions about DAPL or the environment. Another topic swept under the rug.

Agree could be part of establishment trying to hold onto DNC and block Keith

Bernie is the most important politician in the country now.

orlbucfan

He’s also a convenient target. Where are the leaders among you young folk, LD? Bernie is 75 yo fer crissakes!! T and R to the usual suspects!!

phatkhat

Hopefully Sam Ronan will become a champion for the Berniecrats. Then there’s Nina. Yeah, Bernie’s 75, but, then, he’s not old. Look, my hubs is 71 and still drives a big rig full time cross country, including all the physical shit that goes with that. Old? I’m 69, and am often taken for late 50s, even though I do not look all that young. It’s the attitude – or, in my case, cattitude. Maybe the spiky hair and dragon green nerd glasses help.

polarbear4

“Look, you’re talking about a small group of people who do a great job of getting publicity.”

What????? Oh, my Bernie! I may have to communicate with him via his Senate page. This is heart-rending for me. No, no, no! We desperately need to be protesting against all of neoliberalism, Bernie! That’s what your campaign was about! I’m going over to his page right now, and I encourage others to do the same, if you feel as I do.

Done. Forgot to copy and paste. Really glad they allow out-of-staters to comment.

LoneStarMike

Nomiki’s DNC Race News: Follow The Money [13:13]

Great reporting.

    Sam Harrison has dropped out and endorsed Perez, but when Nomiki called a few people who supported Harrison, not all of them are going to support Perez. Some of them have already told Nomiki they are supporting Ellison.

    In the last two years, over $1 Billion has been spent on consultants between Hillary’s campaign and the DNC.

    Perez did not say he was against having conflicts of interests in the party. This is a man who is a lawyer. When you’re a lawyer, conflicts of interests should be alarming.

    Nomiki has had a number of DNC members telling her that over the past several weeks they have been receiving phone calls from someone who has a large contract with the DNC on behalf of Tom Perez.

    It’s Jennifer O’Malley-Dillon (sp?) She is a partner with the consultant firm Precision Strategies. She’s also the co-chair of the new Rules Committee. How convenient. Co-chair of the new Rules Committee also has one of the largest contracts with the DNC. Isn’t that special?

As a side note, I used to go to the FEC website every month to see how much money the DNC had raised, and I saw A LOT of payments going to Precision Strategies.

    State organizers are complaining that there’s no money for the states to organize, and you need money to organize at the state level.

    Unions aren’t getting ad buy contracts, but they’re the ones doing a lot of organizing on the ground. And the majority of unions are supporting Ellison.

    The battle is about more about organizers versus the national consultants, and less about Bernie vs. Hillary.

(I hope my formatting works OK – fingers crossed)

orlbucfan

LD: Having tech problems posting a comment. It will not post and I get a pink colored message insisting it’s a duplicate. What gives?
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“If you don’t have the guts to face your constituents, then you shouldn’t be in the United States Congress,” Sanders said. “That’s what you’re elected to do.”
My new signature line. T and R!!

jcitybone

If Perez wins and the Dems continue their old ways, they will continue having problems against the Republicans

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/weakened-democrats-opting-for-total-war-on-trump-bow-to-their-voters/ar-AAnh0XY?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U218DHP

Reduced to their weakest state in a generation, Democratic Party leaders will gather in two cities this weekend to plot strategy and select a new national chairman with the daunting task of rebuilding the party’s depleted organization. But senior Democratic officials concede that the blueprint has already been chosen for them — by an incensed army of liberals demanding no less than total war against President Trump.

Immediately after the November election, Democrats were divided over how to handle Mr. Trump, with one camp favoring all-out confrontation and another backing a seemingly less risky approach of coaxing him to the center with offers of compromise.

Now, spurred by explosive protests and a torrent of angry phone calls and emails from constituents — and outraged themselves by Mr. Trump’s swift moves to enact a hard-line agenda — Democrats have all but cast aside any notion of conciliation with the White House. Instead, they are mimicking the Republican approach of the last eight years — the “party of no” — and wagering that brash obstruction will pay similar dividends.

In the race for the chairmanship of the Democratic National Committee, which concludes with a vote in Atlanta on Saturday, the restive mood of liberal activists has buoyed a pair of insurgents, Representative Keith Ellison of Minnesota and Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., against the perceived front-runner, Tom Perez.

Mr. Perez, who was Mr. Obama’s labor secretary, is still seen as a favorite in the race, and he has been backed by former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. But he has struggled to dispel the impression that he is an anointed favorite of Washington power brokers.

And Mr. Ellison and Mr. Buttigieg have continued to collect high-profile endorsements: Mr. Ellison won the support of Representative John Lewis of Georgia, the civil rights leader, on Tuesday, and Mr. Buttigieg was endorsed Wednesday by Howard Dean, the former party chairman who remains admired on the left.

In a sign of how little heed Democrats are paying to traditional forces, Mr. Ellison remains viable despite being bluntly attacked as “an anti-Semite” by Haim Saban, one of the most prolific donors to the party and its candidates.

Christine C. Quinn, a vice chairwoman of the New York State Democratic Committee who was a prominent surrogate for Hillary Clinton last year, said she backed Mr. Ellison, who was the first Muslim elected to Congress, in part because of the forcefulness of his criticism of the White House.

“This is not a normal Republican president and these are not normal times,” said Ms. Quinn, a former speaker of the New York City Council. “This isn’t a time for polite parties anymore. This is a time to take a different posture of true aggressiveness.”

Benny
humphrey

Glenn Greenwald is spot on with this article. The establishment will not let its grasp on the party go without a fight. This is clearly a losing strategy. Hillary and her acolytes specialize in that.

wi58

Captain Pelosi and Hillary as Jim Ismay

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jcitybone

Evil

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/key-congressman-its-good-thing-if-more-americans-lose-coverage

Rep. Mike Burgess (R-Texas) chairs the House Energy and Commerce subcommittee related to health care, which makes his perspective on the issue rather important. If Republicans ever present their alternative to the Affordable Care Act, for example, Burgess’ panel would be among the first to tackle the policy.

Burgess was asked about concerns that repealing Obamacare will lead to a drop in the number of people with health insurance. He responded that it would be a good thing because it means fewer people are subject to the individual mandate.

“First off, we’re not going to send an IRS agent out to chase you down and make you buy health insurance,” said Burgess. “So if the numbers (of insured people) drop I would say that’s a good thing because we restored personal liberty in this country.”

It’s a fascinating perspective. It doesn’t matter if the ACA is helping bring health security to millions of Americans; what matters, in Burgess’ mind, is conservative ideological principles.

U.S. News’ Robert Schlesinger noted in response, “If you listened to Burgess, you’d think that all or most of [the 20 million people insured by the ACA] were dragged kicking and screaming into the system and that they yearn for liberation from the tyranny of being able to afford catastrophic illness.”

Burgess, however, isn’t the only one reading from this script. Vice President Mike Pence said this week he wants to gut “Obamacare” in order to bring back “freedom.” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) added that his anti-ACA plans is based on a single principle: “Freedom is the ability to buy what you want to fit what you need. Obamacare is Washington telling you what to buy regardless of your needs.”

All of this must resonate with the focus groups Republicans convene, but it doesn’t make nearly as much sense as GOP officials want to believe.

Benny

Spicy bars the door on NYT, CNN, Politico, and Buzzfeed

Just a couple of hours after Voldemort said he loved the First Amendment in a speech to CPAC, this happened:

Reporters from The Times, CNN and Politico were not allowed to enter the West Wing office of the press secretary, Sean M. Spicer, for the scheduled briefing. Aides to Mr. Spicer allowed in reporters from only a handpicked group of news organizations that, the White House said, had been previously confirmed to attend.

Organizations allowed in included Breitbart News, the One America News Network and The Washington Times, all with conservative leanings. Journalists from ABC, CBS, The Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, and Fox News also attended.

Personally, I think the WH Correspondents Dinner should be postponed or canceled. Voldemort is to be taken seriously, not literally, and this is a just cause to no longer be friendly with the EOB/West Wing.

I just wonder when the witch hunts for the whistleblowers (or leakers) will happen, if it hasn’t started already.

Benny

I hadn’t seen this bit of news until now, but the witch hunt is beginning.

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Friday assailed the F.B.I. as a dangerously porous agency, charging that leaks of classified information from within its ranks were putting the country at risk — and calling for an immediate hunt for the leakers.

Mr. Trump’s complaints were his latest attacks on his own government’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies, which he has characterized as misguided, irresponsible and politically motivated. The criticisms appeared to be a response to a news report Thursday night indicating that a White House official had asked the F.B.I. to rebut an article detailing contacts between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russian intelligence officials.

The report on Thursday night by CNN asserted that a White House official had called top leaders at the F.B.I. to request that they contact reporters to dispute the account, which appeared last week in The New York Times. Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, told reporters on Friday morning that the CNN report was “indefensible and inaccurate,” and he has also called the Times article untrue.

But on Friday morning, Mr. Trump’s focus was on which members of his administration were sharing unflattering information about him with reporters, and his desire to find the perpetrators.

No doubt Jeff Sessions will have his hands full. But I suspect no one wants to rat on anyone else.

jcitybone

Another winner

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/report-trump-to-pick-kevin-hassett-to-lead-cea.html

Trump Expected to Pick Man Known For Historically Bad Economic Advice As Top Economic Adviser

In 1999, Kevin Hassett co-authored a book that offered its readers the following advice:

[T]he single most important fact about stocks at the dawn of the twenty-first century: They are cheap … If you are worried about missing the market’s big move upward, you will discover that it is not too late. Stocks are now in the midst of a one-time-only rise to much higher ground — to the neighborhood of 36,000 on the Dow Jones industrial average.

Five months after Hassett’s book was published, the “dot com bubble” burst.

In 2004, the New York Times asked Hassett what he made of the claim that a bubble was growing in the U.S. housing market. Hassett replied that liberals were prone to see false bubbles, because of their ideological commitment to government intervention. He then conceded that there might be “bubble dynamics” in some regions, but that the housing market was healthy, on the whole.

“’I don’t think a catastrophe is very likely,” Hassett told the paper.

On Friday, Politico reported that president Trump plans to name Hassett as the chairman of his White House Council of Economic Advisers.

Hassett is a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, where he has produced research showing that tax cuts for the rich are actually progressive, and that income inequality has not grown significantly in recent decades.

Benny

More corporate cronyism.

Benny

I was a fan of Ed Schultz for years (especially when he had a show on MSNBC), but I think he jumped the shark by speaking at CPAC:

But Schultz may have been warming to Trump even in his more liberal MSNBC days. In the spring of 2015, Schultz praised his business acumen. Trump reacted the way much of the political world responded to the news that Schultz was going to CPAC.

It was, as Trump put it in a tweet, “unexpected.”

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/23/media/ed-schultz-cpac/

jcitybone

ugh–vaulted the shark

wi58

Same here-sad to see this from him.

Benny

This article is about the CPAC program I mentioned yesterday about Millennials and Bernie Sanders

I wonder if Bernie’s campaign owns the logo part of the t-shirts in the pictures embedded in the article.

Of course, not every Sanders supporter is a willing convert. But Stack says many are persuadable, and he is convinced more will become so during the Trump years: “Right now, it’s just a Bernie Sanders fad … I really believe in what Trump and the Republicans can do with full control — when people see those changes in two or three years, they’ll change on capitalism.”

Similarly, other Turning Point students agreed they had close friends who supported Sanders — but that those friends didn’t understand the implications of his socialism. “I don’t know if they know what the true form of socialism really means,” said Isaac Michaud, of the University of Maine.

Once Sanders’s fans did understand, many of the students believed, they’d change course. Added Alli McGough, 21, of the University of Iowa: “I have a lot of friends who like Bernie. But they don’t understand it — they just hear, ‘Free stuff; that’s what I want.’ … They don’t understand how taxes work. It’s just what’s cool right now.”

Joe Field, 17, a high school senior from Davenport, Iowa, said he has gone to activist training summits to learn about conservative principles. Davis is “frequently debating” friends of his who support Sanders — in his government classes, on weekends, in school — because he thinks there’s no guarantee they’ll eventually come back into the fold.

“You can’t just ignore them and say they’ll come around,” Field said. “You have to go out every day and argue about lower taxes, and ‘no tariffs,’ and stuff like that.”

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/24/14716104/socialism-bernie-sanders-cpac

I think progressives should take heed though. This is how the Raygun Revolution got started. We need to keep pushing the Bernie Revolution (Our Revolution, of course), but I think it’s fine to slap Bernie’s name on it.

humphrey

I hope he gets his wish. (It would look good on him!)

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/joe-manchin-primary-challenge-bernie-sanders-supporters-235380

West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin invited Bernie Sanders supporters to mount a primary challenge against him in a Friday phone call with West Virginians, according to a recording of the call viewed by POLITICO.

The sometimes contentious, roughly 15-minute conversation was largely focused on the prospect of Manchin scheduling a town hall for his constituents — an idea he said he was open to, while also repeatedly asking what the objective would be.

The conference call, which involved several political activists, was recorded by one of the activists, and Manchin can be heard responding to various questions and challenges.

But as the town hall conversation got chippy — and activists on the call brought up points of disagreement with the senator — Manchin exclaimed, “What you ought to do is vote me out. Vote me out! I’m not changing. Find somebody else who can beat me and vote me out.”

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