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Benny

Yo, heads up. Jill Stein will be interviewed this hour on MSNBC. (it’s now 4:19 ET).

roonie

I am now an Independent. I just switched my registration after 41 years as a Democrat. This is the only meaningful way I can see to mark my protest of the current incarnation of the Dem Party.

If the party is too stupid/corrupt to see the opportunity they had in Bernie Sanders then I don’t want to be part of them. Not to mention how in bed they are with special interests. If Bernie could raise $200 million from small donations with a message that resonated with voters, then let the Dems follow suit.

In my state – -the swing state of NC — Independents can vote in primaries. I would not have changed if I could not still vote in a Dem primary. Our local and state Dems can be pretty good and they will still get my support. The Green Party is non-existent here.

I will also likely vote to prevent Trump and certainly vote to prevent any more GOP in congress. In our current system we are only allotted a very limited choice. I will vote for the lesser of evil to prevent worsening climate change, to prevent our National Parks from being privatized, to protect Social Security and Medicare. More GOP rule means much more ground to make up. I live in a state that has been ravaged by GOP rule. They are horrible.

polarbear4

Thanks, grapevines!

magsview

Did anyone else see this?

I don’t know grapevines (on an edit now while I looked for further evidence), but I found this:

Caerus

Why is Bernie Sanders trying to muzzle us? It’s BULLSHIT about it “damaging” the movement – just plan bullshit. Who is threatening him???? How can he be that afraid of DEMONSTRATION and civil disobedience? What the fuck is going on?????
He’s expecting us all to turn into little sheep….well, FUCK THAT!

polarbear4

i don’t think we’re listening. Hill has padded the room.

orlbucfan

Caerus: Nobody is muzzling anybody. The movement is not damaged unless you believe all the vidiot nonsense. Turn off your video for awhile. It’s all crap to start with.

Caerus

Don’t you consider Bernie emailing delegates telling them to stop protesting, is trying to keep them quiet? Kinda like telling Rosa Parks to just get up and “give the nice man your seat.”

Josh

Representative Harkin, did you know that Clinton is for 12$ an hour minimum wage while Bernie is for 15$ an hour? So how is it that you magically come to the conclusion that Clinton who favors raising the minimum wage by a very significant 3 dollars less, will be better for low wage workers?

Also: delegates start chanting “BERNIE SANDERS!” at the end of Harkin’s speech. Cue the music!

polarbear4

and for all life on earth… ya gotta laugh.

i just want to see the roll call for Bernie and then i’m outa here. makes me so mad.

“equal pay!” as low as you can get away with.

Josh

Secretary Grimes could you explain why Hillary is still in favor of our vampire healthcare system (“affordable healthcare”) and not for single payer healthcare?

It’s funny how Secretary Grimes says “let’s stand up” and elect Hillary Clinton. But then she goes into instant fearmongering about Trump.

polarbear4

hoping some are NOT standing up.

seeing the Bernie crowd! Here comes the roll call!

polarbear4

woo hoo our last time to say so, almost

polarbear4

THAT’S what i’m talkin’ bout! Connecting “seamlessly” with so many disparate groups. LOVE.

Benny

It’s Rep Tulsi! Yo! Great surrogate, although I would have liked Nina to do it as well.

Benny

Answer is in his aloha and his love for Mother Earth. When my children hurt, your children hurt. It is love to care…

polarbear4

“Every senior citizen is my parent.”

Benny

“To care about lives lost, lives ruined, and countries destroyed by counter productive regime change wars.” –Tulsi Gabbard

Benny

Dang, this should be the Democratic Party’s message She’s inspiring.

polarbear4

oh yeah. Bernie would have walked all over Trump. Hill will win. unenthusiastically.

Benny

I wonder why Nina didn’t do the seconding speech.

polarbear4

Ditto. Maybe she felt she just couldn’t.

polarbear4

tears again. happy sad

Benny

I’m confused. Are they encouraging to vote for HC? Weird message by Feney.

Benny

What a smile by Bernie as the delegate from his home state said, “I’ve never felt the bern as I do now. “

magsview

“Some people want to rant”??!

polarbear4

i want to rant! Hill is going to “light up my life”? hahahahahhahahahaaha

Benny

A bittersweet moment for Bernie. I’m teary eyed too.

Eagles92

Man, the differences in the speeches are dramatic.

None of these for Hillary is inspiring in the least.

polarbear4

worked diligently to beat Bernie.

Benny

Alaska 14 votes for the inspiring progressive, Bernie Sanders!

Eagles92

WTF with the missing Alabama vote?!

Benny

Probably didn’t make it back in time.

Caerus
polarbear4

haha Should have known that she’d have to resort to padding her support. Probably the padded ones yelling the loudest. Wonder if they’re getting paid.

polarbear4

what? i thought Hawai’i went to Bernie.

Benny

that was American Samoa.

Benny

Colorado casts 41 for Bernie , 5 more than HHC

Josh

Every single California superdelegate went for Hillary Clinton. That’s why the state by state counts are skewed for Hillary Clinton.

Benny

Even the candidate Bernie is supporting out there?

Josh

Correction: not every California superdelegate voted, but most all of them did and they went for Hillary. I don’t know about how any Berniecrats there may or may not have pledged.

polarbear4

These include the superDs? Yes. Thanks, Toby.

Josh

Yep.

93% of the superdelegates went for Hillary Clinton.

Benny

OMG Larry Sanders is making me cry by talking about how much their parents loved him and loved the New Deal. Jane is teary eyed too. Bernie is trying to hold back the emotion..

magsview

me too

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polarbear4

awwww, nice photo.

polarbear4

” for the leader of our revolution which shall continue!”

Hawai’i

Josh

Judging by the totals, it doesn’t look like many of the pledged Bernie delegates have switched to Hillary (since almost none of his support has come from superdelegates). In fact, ZERO of Bernie’s 221 California delegates switched. Damn proud of em for representing the political revolution.

Benny

I think they did in IN.

polarbear4

why would they change? do they get something?

Josh

do they get something?

Free platitudes?

Eagles92

OH FFS, enough about Trump.

Benny

SD’s voted to help Clinton in Indiana. I did like the first speaker.

Benny

KY, where votes in eastern KY disappeared for 2 hours.

polarbear4

LOL. i can’t help thinking about all the purges and machines and lost votes and plain old uncounted votes. when they all “proudly” declare their STOLEN votes and PREDETERMINED SD votes for Hill.

Josh

The recanvass, requested by the Sanders campaign, didn’t find anything wrong with the final tallies.

polarbear4

I’m talking about in many states. Was it the head of elections in KY who did the recanvass?

Josh

None of Bernie’s 27 delegates switched in Kentucky either.

magsview

Thank you Larry for letting the world know that Bernard’s parents would have been very proud of him!

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Benny

SD’s made a big difference too in MI. I think some of them flipped there, even though he won the state.

Eagles92

WTF Michigan?

Josh

Exactly one out of Bernie’s 67 pledged delegates in Michigan went to Clinton. Meanwhile, she got every single superdelegate vote. Bernie’s delegates are being incredibly loyal but the superdelegates are putting Clinton over the top.

Eagles92

This pisses me off.

polarbear4

Me, too! This whole thing does tho! But i’m happy to hear his votes called out, even if the SDs ruin everything. WE know who the people wanted.

sorry hit down instead of reply up voted. :O)

Eagles92

This is all just proving how HRC could not have won without the supers.

Benny

At least on the first ballot.

Josh

I don’t like it either. At least Bernie’s people are sticking with him almost 100% (every one of his delegates also voted for him in Missouri, Montana, and Nebraska).

polarbear4

nevada ugh that’s just wrong. hope there’s a little booing, anyway.

Eagles92

I heard some.

Josh

Bernie wins New Hampshire’s primary with 60% of the vote, and ties Hillary in the delegate count. There’s something wrong with that.

Benny

I think it is because she won the more populated areas. But I think some SD’s flipped.

Josh

I think it is because she won the more populated areas. But I think some SD’s flipped.

Bernie got one of the seven NH superdelegates originally, and you’re right, one flipped to Hillary in the final count which made it a tie (she won NH superdelegates 7-0). It wouldn’t have been close if the count had gone on pledged delegates alone, where Bernie led 15-9.

Benny

SD’s voted for HC in NH. Ugh.

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