HomeUncategorizedSorta an open thread but my main point is the screwing of Keith Ellison.
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dkmich

This is exactly why so many of us believe the Dem party cannot be reformed from within.

Dem blame game rages over Clinton loss
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dem-blame-game-rages-over-clinton-loss/ar-AAl7l4b

I'll be crystal clear: Bernie Sanders has absolutely no business determining the course of the Democratic Party after the harm he did to us.

— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) November 30, 2016

In case the embed doesn’t work – go here.

dkmich

You really should go to the tweet and read the comments. It’s like dailykos – bunches of people with heads of up their asses. Since Obama got elected with a mandate and a majority, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats, and the Supreme Court. That’s some legacy.

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

I was almost tempted to open a twitter acct but I see the progressive twitter peeps are doing a great job at embarrassing the neolib twit – Daou. And besides the thread was from Nov 30 so who would see my rant? thanks for the link. I got quite a few laughs.

wi59

dkmich that was my thought almost word for word

SparkyGump

Assholes never give up easily. They care more about their own power, not what damage they do. Screw every last one of them.

Don midwest

Glenn Greenwald article on this

The Smear Campaign Against Keith Ellison is Repugnant but Reveals Much About Washington​

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/04/the-smear-campaign-against-keith-ellison-is-repugnant-but-reveals-much-about-washington/

wi59

The neolibs are like a fruit that looks perfectly good to bite into,once you do you find out that its rotted from the inside and tastes like shit’

Don midwest

I posted a comment at dailykos

The format and tools are so easy to use that after totally thinking that it was F**k off and never to return again…. We have to learn to talk even with the Trump supporters so, why not try the DNC outlet DK/TOP?

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/4/1597752/-We-ve-seen-improbable-become-real-So-let-s-revisit-Bernie-s-thesis-of-expanding-the-base#comment_64678670

eve

Don midwest,
Thanks for trying on TOP.
I actually would find it easier to talk with some Trump supporters than most Clinton supporters.
Here’s an example you may have seen of a Trump supporter who is intelligent and articulate

This woman is credible and believable.
Some of the people on TOP are delusional, IMO.
They do not know or care to face the truth about their candidate.
This woman would have voted for Bernie Sanders if he had been on the ticket, IMO.
She makes sense to me.
She readily admits she was taken in by Trump’s lies pretending that he was sympatico with working people.

eve

Thanks, humphrey! for covering this important topic.

The Clinton machine is so f…..g transparent.

Can you believe it?
One of the challengers to Ellison for the Chair of the DNC is an employee of the Podesta Group:

S.C. Dem Chair, Jaime Harrison, one of the members of the southern block that signed the nasty letter to Bernie Sanders during this year’s Dem primary that twisted Bernie’s words about conservative southern voters is on the payroll of John Podesta – y’know that nasty guy who was B. Clinton’s campaign manager and then wrote the nasty emails about Bernie during the 2016 Dem primary.

“Jaime R. Harrison (born 1975 or 1976) is an American political operative and lobbyist. He is the Chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party………He also works as a lobbyist for the Podesta Group”

You couldn’t make this stuff up.

eve
grapevines

Dec 4th Veterans at Standing Rock Report DAPLE Militarized forces are increasing and amassing around Main Oceti Camp. At this point all Native drones have been disabled and taken down..none are in the sky to give live news coverage.

dkmich

Here is a cross-post from c99. gjohnsit share it with us.

Thomas Frank on Democratic Party: “They don’t care”
Sun, 12/04/2016 – 12:46pm — gjohnsit

This video, less than 5 minutes long, deserves to stand by itself.
The money quotes is 3:20 in, when Thomas Frank is asked how the Democrats can win back the working class.

grapevines

Myron Dewey’s latest report 12-3. He’s addressing the most recent False information reported by Morton County and so much, much more.

for some reason I am no longer able to get youtube videos to show on TPW.

magsview

Here’s a fun (to me) pic of Tulsi Gabbard addressing the mustered vets in this tweet.

Mike Copelan ‏@ImwiththeBern 11h
11 hours ago

‘Tulsi Gabbard addressing mustered Vets for Standing Rock. Truly an amazing experience. #nodapl #StandingRock — at Sitting Bull College.’

Something about the vibe there with all those burly vets listening to her.

magsview

I’m not totally sure what the full significance of this is yet, and would prefer if I could find verification about it (don’t see it anywhere else yet,) but:

“Remi Baldeagle native Native American Council Elder reports that the secretary of the Army has denied the Dakota pipeline easement….. straight from the elders mouth recorded just minutes ago December 4th Sunday 2016 power to the people”

And at this link is a pic of the major traffic still pouring into Standing Rock:

There’s a short vid on the facebook post.

magsview

A comment on the facebook post says this now about that DAPL easement:

Stephen Scapelliti
“Just heard that this was corroborated by Army Corps of Engineers and that a formal announcement will be made at 4:00 p.m. today.”

This could be a turning point..

Here’s more on that easement:

‘Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., this week again asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to issue the final easement for the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) to “put an end to the violent protests in North Dakota.”

A news release issued by Hoeven’s office said Jo-Ellen Darcy, who oversees the Corps of Engineers, will issue a timeline by the end of the week outlining when a decision will be made on an easement that would enable the pipeline to cross the Missouri River beneath the Lake Oahe reservoir.

The 1,172-mile-long pipeline would carry about a half million barrels per day of Bakken crude from western North Dakota to a terminal in Patoka, Illinois, providing access to markets in the east and along the Gulf Coast. The $3.8 billion project was scheduled for completion before year’s end.
 
Last June, the Corps sent out a memo in which it granted approval to Dakota Access LLC for pipeline crossings of the Missouri River under Lake Sakakawea and Lake Oahe. But in mid-September after a federal judge denied a motion for an injunction filed by the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe to stop pipeline construction, the Obama administration intervened and said it needed to review the easement approved by the Corps. It has yet to issue a decision on the matter.’

http://thebakken.com/articles/1747/hoeven-presses-corps-to-issue-dapl-easement-end-protests

Cross your fingers and your toes peeps!

Ciganka

My son says it was just announced. No easement. I hope this is true. Please let this be true…

KayCeSF

WOOT!
This from Bernie’s website:

Sanders Statement on Dakota Access Pipeline Decision
Sunday, December 4, 2016
BURLINGTON, Vt., Dec. 4 – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) congratulated President Barack Obama Sunday after the Army Corps of Engineers announced it will deny a federal permit needed for the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline.

“I appreciate very much President Obama listening to the Native American people and millions of others who believe this pipeline should not be built. In the year 2016, we should not continue to trample on Native American sovereignty. We should not endanger the water supply of millions of people. We should not become more dependent on fossil fuel and accelerate the planetary crisis of climate change. Our job now is to transform our energy system away from fossil fuels, not to produce more greenhouse gas emissions.”

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-dakota-access-pipeline-decision

This is a really good day!!! Ya think 2000 Vets at Standing Rock might have been the final key to this turnaround? I’m so happy!

magsview

Cal Perry ‏@calmsnbc 3h
3 hours ago

Oceti Sakowin Camp
“Law enforcement has moved off the bridge at the #standingrock camp.”

That was 3 hours ago, as you can see, and now it appears to be confirmed. DAPL easement denied pending environmental impact assessment. Tentatively amazing news!!!!

magsview

Pipeline Route Denied Near Reservation, Sioux Leader Says

‘The secretary of the Army Corps of Engineers has told Standing Rock Sioux Chairman David Archambault that the current route for the Dakota Access pipeline will be denied.’

snip

‘”I am thankful there were some leaders in the feral government that realized something was not right even though its legal,” he said. “For the first time in hisopry native American, they heard our voices. This is something that will go down in history and is a blessing for all indigenous people.

I heard the army corp of engineers will not grant the easement and they will reroute.”

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Dakota-Access-Pipeline-Denied-near-sioux-reservation-404636436.html

I guess the next thing is to see how they re-route it?

magsview

p.s. Thank you Humphrey!! Yes, oppose Ellison all you like, but the vitriol I’ve been hearing painting him as some kind of hater-of-Jews is atrocious.

(WaPo on Keith Ellison’s “coronation”):

‘Then last week his past came back to haunt him.

Ellison has a long history of controversial remarks, many of which he has disavowed. Like the time he compared George W. Bush to Hitler. Or his defense of the Nation of Islam. Or his characterization of his 2012 opponent as a “lowlife scumbag.”

But last week another Ellison controversy emerged — and this from the much-more-recent past.

In 2010, Ellison gave a speech at a fundraiser hosted by a past president of the Muslim American Society. In it, he says he wants the “U.S. to be friends with Israel” but adds: “We can’t allow another country to treat us like we’re their ATM.” Then he said this:

“The United States foreign policy in the Middle East is governed by what is good or bad through a country of 7 million people. A region of 350 million all turns on a country of 7 million. Does that make sense? Is that logic? Right? When the Americans who trace their roots back to those 350 million get involved, everything changes.”

The Anti-Defamation League quickly condemned those views as “both deeply disturbing and disqualifying.” Haim Saban, a major Israeli American Democratic donor, said Friday that Ellison was “clearly an anti-Semite and anti-Israel individual,” adding that having the congressman as DNC chair “would be a disaster for the relationship between the Jewish community and the Democratic Party.”’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/04/keith-ellisons-coronation-as-dnc-chair-hit-a-major-hurdle-this-week/?utm_term=.f48f1266fa54

SparkyGump

Criticism of Israel is not anti Semitic. $Hillary tried the “criticism of me is sexist” tripe and we see how that worked out.

Ciganka

So yes, finally the arc has begun to bend…

Benny

NYT also confirms that the COAE will not allow the permit, will do more environmental studies.

It is a reprieve, but I expect it to be revisited by January 1st.

I cannot believe it took this long though.

Benny

Nice celebration pics:

Benny

Peter Daou continues to rail at Bernie Sanders and his Supporters

An ostrich looking for the best hole in the sand

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/308600-dem-blame-game-rages-over-clinton-loss

Soon after his Twitter attack on Sanders, Daou posted another series of tweets that cautioned against a move to the left. He suggested that one major problem had been a failure on the part of the official Clinton campaign to push back strongly enough against attacks on her character and integrity.

“The lesson for Dems from 2016 is NOT to change our message, it’s to deliver and defend it with more conviction and fearlessness,” he wrote.

The anonymous Democratic strategist agreed, up to a point, saying that he believed the general public’s distrust of government and Washington was too great at present for the kind of government-centric solutions favored by Sanders and others on the left to carry the day.

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