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joe from Lowell

From the point of view of someone who, like Bernie, wants to take over the Democratic Party in the medium term while winning concessions in the short term, I am loving this story.

In the short term, the party and Clintonites need to give us MOAR STUFF if they want to win the election – like DWS’s head. In doing so, it further demonstrates that there will be a cost to crossing us. Bernie is out there as the good cop. That leaves a few million of us to do play bad cop. It also provides some great grist for progressive candidates running against establishment Democrats in primaries.

In the longer term, it further demonstrates that the corruption and insider favoritism that we’ve been attacking is real, and can only win us converts.

loneaudience

“In the longer term, it further demonstrates that the corruption and insider favoritism that we’ve been attacking is real, and can only win us converts.”

I do appreciate the importance of this. Still. Do people know about this? I continue to be shocked when I talk to people how little they know or care about the election.

Dro

Nothing has been covered on the MSM untill now. There is hope that people will learn and be concerned. Up until now, only us political junkies kept up. 😉

Jo Crain

It would be interesting to poll this at the convention and find out what the delegates think.

polarbear4

You didn’t lose, Bernie. You didn’t lose.

loneaudience

This is one of the big disappointments for me. Bernie didn’t speak up and fight. He didn’t do it for himself and he didn’t to it for us. This is a sad day for me.

polarbear4

imo, he did what he could. lawsuits are going forward, etc. you know the MSM would have had a field day with “Whiny Bernie” or “Sour Grapes Bernie” if he would have complained about the rigging any more than he already did.

looks like i’m one of his biggest fans. :O)

loneaudience

@polarbear4 Thanks for the reply but I can’t agree with you on this one. The media was the enemy from day one. Was what they said any worse than maybe calling him “Whiny Bernie” or “Sour Grapes?” He said he was fighting for us and what I’m seeing is that he didn’t fight hard enough. And, here’s the thing, he could have but chose not to. And continues to choose not to. His endorsement of Clinton is so at odds with what he espouses as values or principles that it’s borderline hypocritical. That hurts.

Chriscrisp

I think he is still trying to fight for us, but he has conflicting goals. If he were to go Green he and we would be risking everything. This way he can still be a respected voice in the senate. I support Bernie’s policies and down ballot endorsements, but I am planning on voting for Jill Stein in November to keep pushing for real change.

Dro

As joe from Lowellsaid , ” Bernie is out there as the good cop. That leaves a few million of us to do play bad cop”. Bernie has a tight rope to walk. I don’t want him to play his hand too heavy and become a scapegoat when this peaks. I think he is doing it just right!

loneaudience

How I would love to be wrong!

Spring Texan

Boy do I understand that feeling. Just like I would love to be wrong about Clinton as president as I was about MacAuliffe as VA governor (however, I’d bet a fortune on that that I won’t be). However, I think there are much better odds that you could be wrong on this one, although none of us can be certain how things will go till they do.

I don’t think going green for HIM would really accomplish much although I am also not sure the current course will accomplish much, however I think it is the best bet that he’s making.

I wish Jill Stein were more genuinely appealing. Her positions are great but there is something about her that rubs me the wrong way. I wish the Green nominee were Roseanne Barr. But, I did vote for Stein last time and (easy decision since I’m in a non-contested stated), I will again.

polarbear4

“I wish Jill Stein were more genuinely appealing. Her positions are great but there is something about her that rubs me the wrong way.”

Me, too. Voting for her, though.

We’re in a definite minority here. :O)

loneaudience

She rubs you the wrong way. Really? I find her even more refreshingly authentic than Bernie. No doubt that’s because Bernie did have a bit of a filter where the Dem establishment was concerned and I understood that. Stein doesn’t have such a filter and is speaking from the heart. I’ve heard others say that the Greens are a mess and that may be so but Stein strikes me as sincere and genuine. I’m voting in a swing state and I’m going to vote for her….if she gets on the ballot.

Spring Texan

Thanks, glad to get your take even if it’s not mine, it’s very interesting. I definitely like much of what she says, but I just can’t seem to resonate with her at all. But as I said I’ll vote for her.

This was meant to be a reply to loneaudience, seem to have misposted it above.

Spring Texan

Yes, this will be important for his effectiveness in the Senate and to his potentially being chairman of a good committee where he can improve things. Doesn’t mean we have to do the same. Hard to watch though. But he’s doing his best according to his lights and he may well be following the very best path available.

polarbear4

He always said he’d endorse if he didn’t win, iirc. i know it hurts, but i think Bernie keeping his word is a good thing. yes, we’ll agree to disagree, and you certainly aren’t alone.

i’m actually a little taken aback at all the vitriol for Bernie out in the blogospheere. Like the man didn’t just unite the majority of voters, anyway, in a yuuugge way, so yuge that he actually won.

But the machine is too powerful, and that is part of the reason i’m voting Jill. I’m afraid we will have completely lost any chance of an honest vote, if we haven’t already.

At least with Obama, we had such a yuge margin that they couldn’t beat us. This time, they just came out in the open and purged and switched and did whatever they had to. Doubt that the next progressive will be allowed to get even a little traction unless he/she has a yuge movement from the get go. Even then…..

Jo Crain

I believe that Bernie is acting consistent with his principles. First he has said over and over that Trump is a nightmare and should not be president. He has also said that he would do everything in his power to make sure that Trump does not win.

Also he has said over and over that a third party vote would split the electorate and make a Trump win more possible.

That is what he believes.

I don’t think myself, that he has given too much credence to our views that the electoral process itself was hijacked other than the jacking around by the media and the repression of the independent voter.

But I believe that the latter holds the key. What difference does it make who we vote for if some gremlin can flip our votes? We might as well vote for who we want and give over all those fears cause the gremlin may be working for Trump or may be working for Hillary, we will only know when the “count” is announced.

OzoneTom

“It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don’t want and get it.” — Eugene V. Debs

wi59

As an indy i’m going to give Bernie the benefit of the doubt as I still think his master plan is to change the Dem party from the inside similar to the Tea party , I will give him the time to see how it works out for 2018 and 2020 as those are yuge for the revolution. The mellennials can be the force to make it happen . If Trump wins so be it as historically either party has trouble holding power after 2 terms (8 years) of one or the other. In 2020 either of these incumbents will lose big as I’m predicting that their will be a split congress for either of these two to deal with and the only things that will get done are things that benefit the 1%. Either way the change we need will come from the bottom up not top down, Remember the mightiest tree rots from the inside when it collapses and dies

SparkyGump

The fact that Bernie got all those votes despite being attacked from the front and rear plus all those voting “irregularities” shows the strength of his message.

Spring Texan

Yes it does! As does Jeremy Corbyn’s success in Britain where the press is stacked just as badly against him with lying stories every day. I’m following that closely at thecanary.co

there are just a lot of people WORLDWIDE who are sick of the bullshit.

loneaudience

I am saddened to hear Bernie continue to endorse and support Clinton. There is something to be said for respecting yourself and standing up for yourself AND the millions who supported you with their time, money and efforts.

I will be interested to hear what Bernie says tomorrow night.

Bell

Bernie said Trump is the worst presidential candidate in his lifetime. I disagree. I think Hillary is the worst presidential candidate in my lifetime.

NVPainter

I’m trusting Bernie on this. Trump is a horrifically sick fraudster and con man, among other things. I’d say that HC is the worst Democratic presidential candidate in my lifetime, for many, many reasons (no, I don’t like her, either). Neither are good.

Chriscrisp

It’s a tough situation right now for all of us. I think Bernie is trying to hold onto his gains – and they are many. We all (even people who do not pay all that much attention to politics) now know how incredibly corrupt the DNC and Hillary are and we know how popular Bernie’s progressive agenda is. He will continue to be a strong and vocal voice in the house.
It’s now our job to keep pushing. It’s our job to denounce Kaine, the TTP, DWS. It’s our job to hold Hillary’s feet to the fire over every concession she made. And it’s our job to support Jill Stein and get the Greens onto the national stage. Bernie’s made the choice to stay Dem, that’s the agreement he made. But we do not need to stay with him there in order to support his policies and down ballot Berniecrats.

Chriscrisp

Whoops I meant to say senate not house!

Josh

The takeover starts when those 1,850 Bernie delegates walk right out of the national convention.

Revolutions never got anywhere by butt kissing the establishment. It’s the establishment whose trying to put out the Bern, not fan the flames!

Dro

Dro

Update. NBC reporting she resigned today.

Josh

Finally.

Dro

Yes!
CNN reported Sunday that the DNC Rules Committee has rescinded Wasserman Schultz’s position as convention chairwoman. Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-OH) has been named as her replacement.

CNN previously reported that Schultz would not have a major speaking role in an effort “to keep the peace” in the party. Her role had been reduced to gaveling “the convention in and out.”

“She’s been quarantined,” a top Democrat told CNN.

But now she won’t even be gaveling. All her appearances “have been scrapped” from the Democratic convention, CNN reported.

Spring Texan

Good news! 🙂

Linda Thieman

Amen, Brother Toby.

Dro

Just in ????? What the *&^%$

polarbear4

hahahaha. with every breath she takes, she blows me away ever further. :O)

Dro

I can’t believe this! This sounds like a promotion. For screwing things up? Totaly insane!!!

Dro

The Clinton campaign emails this statement from Hillary Clinton:

“I want to thank my longtime friend Debbie Wasserman Schultz for her leadership of the Democratic National Committee over the past five years. I am grateful to Debbie for getting the Democratic Party to this year’s historic convention in Philadelphia, and I know that this week’s events will be a success thanks to her hard work and leadership. There’s simply no one better at taking the fight to the Republicans than Debbie–which is why I am glad that she has agreed to serve as honorary chair of my campaign’s 50-state program to gain ground and elect Democrats in every part of the country, and will continue to serve as a surrogate for my campaign nationally, in Florida, and in other key states. I look forward to campaigning with Debbie in Florida and helping her in her re-election bid–because as President, I will need fighters like Debbie in Congress who are ready on day one to get to work for the American people.”

Jo Crain

Simply unbelievable the chutzpah from both these women. And total unawareness of how they appear to the great unwashed masses of us.

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