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Incoming Senate Budget Committee Chair Bernie Sanders has been leading that charge and joins us now.
Good morning. Senator.
The Democrats seem prepared to pass Biden’s COVID relief package with or without Republican support, which has been shrinking in recent days. Did — did the president overestimate the appetite for bipartisanship?
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT): Look, Martha, we all want bipartisanship. And I think you’re going to see more of it as we move down the pipe. You’re going to see bipartisanship on infrastructure. There are a lot of Republicans who are outraged by the high cost of prescription drugs in this country. We pay ten times more than other countries do for certain drugs. We are going to look forward to working with Republicans.
But right now this country faces an unprecedented set of crisis. We have families who are watching this program right now who cannot feed their kids. We have millions of people who face eviction. We are in the midst of the worst pandemic in 100 years. We have got to act, and we have got to act now.
RADDATZ: And you —
SANDERS: And we just don’t have — I’m sorry.
RADDATZ: Senator, you — you — you’ve said you can’t reach out to Republicans indefinitely and Democrats should use the majority, but this morning we’re hearing 10 GOP senators have a new plan. So is it a mistake for Democrats to consider abandoning bipartisanship negotiations so soon?
SANDERS: Martha, the issue is not, you know, bipartisanship or not. The issue is, are we going to address the incredible set of crises and the pain and the anxiety which is in this country.
You know what, I don’t care what anybody says, we have got to deal with this pandemic, we have got to make sure that we are producing the vaccines that we need and get those vaccines into the arms of the people. We cannot have children in America going hungry, people being evicted, schools not open. We need to open our schools in a safe way. That’s what we have to do.
So the question is not bipartisanship, the question is addressing the unprecedented crisis that we face right now. If Republicans want to work with us, they have better ideas on how to address those crises, that’s great. But to be honest with you, I have not yet heard that.
RADDATZ: Does your party have the votes to pass the relief package through the reconciliation process if you decide to go that route?
SANDERS: Yes, I believe that we do because it’s hard for me to imagine any Democrat, no matter what state he or she may come from, who doesn’t understand the need to go forward right now in an aggressive way to protect the working families of this country.
Look, all of us will have differences of opinion. This is a $1.9 trillion bill. I have differences and concerns about this bill. But at the end of the day, we’re going to support the President of the United States, and we’re going to come forward, and we’re going to do what the America people overwhelmingly want us to do. The polling is overwhelming. Republicans, Democrats, independents. They know this (INAUDIBLE).
RADDATZ: Senator — Senator, you — you say you’re confident about the Democrats, but I saw Joe Manchin from West Virginia this weekend, and he has made remarks after watching Kamala Harris being interviewed about this relief package, saying, no one called me about that. We’re going to try to find a bipartisan pathway forward. I think we need to do that. We need to work together. That’s not a way of working together.
Are you still confident?
SANDERS: Yes, I am absolutely confident. And I’ll tell you also why, Joe Manchin is a chairman, I’m a chairman, Democrats have majority because of the fact that we won two seats with great candidates in Georgia. And, obviously, those candidates won the support of the people of Georgia but that campaign, in many ways, was a national campaign.
And what those candidates said is, yes, we are going to provide checks of $2,000/$1,400 (ph) on top of the $600. Yes, we’re going to extend unemployment benefits. Yes, we are going to address the needs of working families. The entire Democratic Party came together behind the candidates of Georgia. We made promises to the American people. And if politics means anything, if you’re going to have any degree of creditability, you don’t want your campaign on a series of issues and then after the election when you get power say, oh well, you know what, changing our mind. That’s not the way it works.
We make —
RADDATZ: Senator —
SANDERS: — promises to the American people, we’re going to keep those promises.
RADDATZ: And Senator, speaking of Georgia, I want to talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene. We’ve been talking about her this morning.
Do you believe she’s fit to hold office? And should she be on the Education Committee?
SANDERS: Look, I think the idea that you’re talking about members of the U.S. House of Representatives are talking about violence, that is — it is almost beyond comprehension. I think this is something the Republican Party has got to deal with.
Look, the Republic — I’m not going to give the Republicans advice. They don’t want my advice. But ultimately they will continue being a conservative party that believes in democracy or an authoritarian party based on big lies, conspiracy theories, and, in fact, a movement toward violence. And I hope the Republicans make the right decision and come down on the side of democracy.
RADDATZ: And Senator, we only have about 15 seconds left, but there was a big story this week about the Robinhood app and GameStop. Some of your colleagues were very critical of Robinhood’s decision to block its users from purchasing more GameStop stock on Thursday.
What do you say to them? What do you think needs to happen? Quickly, if you can, sir.
SANDERS: Well, in one sentence, I have long believed that the business model of Wall Street is flawed. I think we have to take a very hard look at the kind of illegal activities and outrageous behavior on the part of the hedge funds and other Wall Street players.
RADDATZ: OK. Thanks very much. Very succinct and appreciate it.
my only complaint is too bad he swallowed the 1400 kool aid. he’s better than that. Manchin and Sinema should take that as a win, and take Kamala’s presser as a warning that there will be more. complaining about bipartisanship when they oppose their own party at every turn.
If there were ever a time for bold government, it is now. Covid, joblessness, poverty, raging inequality and our last chance to preserve the planet are together creating an existential inflection point.
Trump may be out of office, but Republicans are still angry and ready to do his bidding.
Fortunately for America and the world, Donald Trump is gone, and Joe Biden has big plans for helping Americans survive Covid and then restructuring the economy, rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure and creating millions of green jobs.
But Republicans in Congress don’t want to go along. Why not?
Mitch McConnell and others say America can’t afford it. “We just passed a program with over $900bn in it,” groused Senator Mitt Romney, the most liberal of the bunch.
Rubbish. We can’t afford not to. Fighting Covid will require far more money. People are hurting.
Besides, with the economy in the doldrums it’s no time to worry about the national debt. The best way to reduce the debt as a share of the economy is to get the economy growing again.
On Tuesday the Progressives in NYC have another opportunity to fill a vacant City Council seat with an energetic grassroots woman.
If she succeeds this will be another earth-shaking victory over the Democratic Machine and the billionaires who run it.
Some nuggets from the article:
What’s happening in District 24 is a tale of two cities where billionaires drop money bombs on communities they have no connection to while a young democratic socialist has to justify the $10 and $20 contributions from neighbors who have known her for decades. Expect this power struggle to continue in the regularly scheduled Democratic primaries in June when bold millennial progressives and socialists will face off against old guard machine Democrats and their deep-pocketed financial backers who are intent on running post-pandemic New York as they see fit.
If Ahmed were to prevail, she would be the first Southeast Asian to serve on the New York City Council. It would launch into public office one of the most talented, charismatic young organizers to emerge out of the Bernie Sanders movement. It would be another jarring defeat for the city’s Democratic Party establishment and its wealthy backers. And, it would further energize the campaigns of dozens of other diverse young leftist candidates who are running for City Council in June’s Democratic primaries when most races will be decided.
January 27th was the most remarkable day in the history of America’s official response to the climate crisis, at least since that June afternoon in 1988, when nasa’s James Hansen told a congressional committee that the planet had begun to heat. On Wednesday, in the course of a few hours, the Biden Administration took a series of coördinated actions that, considered together, may well mark the official beginning of the end of the fossil-fuel era.
The Biden Administration temporarily paused the new leasing of federal lands and waters for fossil-fuel production, while speeding up the process of permitting renewables. The President pledged that the federal government would start buying electric cars in volume. His order sets up or strengthens offices in the Justice Department, the Energy Department, and the Environmental Protection Agency to focus on what he called “environmental justice.” He announced that climate change would become a national-security priority for the Pentagon. And all of this came after his earlier pledges to rejoin the Paris climate accord and to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline. There’s a shock-and-awe feel to the barrage of actions, and that is the point: taken together, they send a decisive signal about the end of one epoch and the beginning of another. And that signal, most of all, is aimed at investors: fossil fuel, Biden is making clear, is not a safe bet, or even a good bet, for making real money. Coal, oil, and gas are the past, not the future. They’re the present, too, of course—but you don’t make big-money bets on the present.
We may not get to that future fast enough to stave off truly disastrous global warming—the natural world made some announcements of its own this week, including the news that the melt from glaciers and ice sheets is in line with the worst-case scenarios that scientists have produced—and we won’t get to that safer future easily. The fossil-fuel industry is already hitting back hard against the Biden announcements, using the only argument it has left: jobs. But the Administration’s team was prepared for the onslaught—Biden styled his announcements as a job-creation scheme, predicting, for instance, that electric cars would create a million new jobs for autoworkers. And his aides made clear that they understood the need to cushion the blow in areas where oil, gas, and coal jobs are disappearing. “We’re going to make sure that nobody is left behind,” the domestic climate czar Gina McCarthy told reporters. “We need to put people to work in their own communities. That’s where their home is. That’s where the vision is. So we are creatively looking at those opportunities for investment, so that we can get people understanding that we are not trying to take away jobs.”
The difference between these actions and the responses of previous Administrations is that Biden isn’t hedging his bets. Probably the day’s most important development was the least remarked upon. The White House made clear that America would stop letting public funds from agencies such as the Export-Import Bank flow to fossil fuels, and that it would use its leverage at the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund to support the goals of the Paris accord. And then, crucially, John Kerry, who is coördinating the Administration’s global climate policy, made clear in a speech to virtual Davos that this dictum applied to natural gas. “The problem with gas is, if we build out a huge infrastructure for gas now to continue to use it as the bridge fuel—when we haven’t really exhausted the other possibilities—we’re going to be stuck with stranded assets in ten, twenty, thirty years,” he said. “Gas is primarily methane, and we have a huge methane problem, folks.”
This statement is enormously important, because gas has always been the Democratic Party’s climate vice.
The climate fight is far from over—battles with the fossil-fuel industry will continue for the foreseeable future, and the outcome will determine the pace of the transition toward clean energy. (Keep an eye on the fate of the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Line 3 tar-sands pipeline in Minnesota—the new Administration’s climate logic should mean their cancellation, but it would be a heavy political lift.) But this week’s actions mark an unmistakable turning point. The climate movement has, finally, shifted the zeitgeist far enough for an Administration to act decisively, and Joe Biden has risen to the moment.
The New York Times finds this “blistering pace” much too fast. In an editorial, the newspaper enjoined, “Ease Up on the Executive Action, Joe.” According to the Times, executive orders are a blunt and limited instrument, lacking the force and greater permanency of congressionally passed laws. After all, it would just take another Republican president to put back in place Trump measures Biden had overturned.
The Times editorial board even has the gall to use the Dreamers, undocumented immigrants brought to America as children, as a weapon in its polemical onslaught against executive orders. The newspaper frets about Dreamers’ living in “a nightmarish limbo” due to the whiplash of changing executive orders from Obama to Trump to Biden. But this creates an equivalence between those trying to protect the Dreamers and those trying to deport them. In truth, the “nightmare limbo” was created by two forces: Republicans in Congress, unwilling to enact immigration reforms, and Trump, trying to leverage the Dreamers in order to coerce funding for his border wall. Leaving out this fact serves as an apologia for the GOP.
This editorial is a prime example of the Times’ vulnerability to myopic Mugwumpism, a tendency to focus on small-bore political process while ignoring the actual power dynamics that drive politics. The Mugwumps—late-19th century reformers—fixated on civil service reform as a panacea for all that ailed America, ignoring battles over Reconstruction and the civil rights of formerly enslaved people.
In a like manner, a persnickety focus on the limits of executive orders makes sense only if one ignores the much larger battles around American democracy. Earlier this month, Donald Trump egged on a mob to attack Congress in order to thwart the process of even installing Biden as president. Trump and many other Republican elected officials did everything in their power to cast doubt on the legitimacy of Biden’s win. To this day, some, like South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, refuse to admit that Biden won a free and fair election.
In the context of having his legitimacy called into question, it is crucial for Biden to assert his authority as quickly as possible so that the nation can see he is in fact the president. Biden took a number of decisive early moves to make visible his executive authority, notably firing the National Labor Relations Board’s general counsel, Peter Robb, a Trump-era holdover who refused a request to resign. Undoing some of Trump’s worst executive orders was also a way for Biden to make clear that he is president.
The one part of the Times editorial that has value is the argument that Biden should in the future work with Congress. But executive orders and congressional action are not mutually exclusive. Congress works slowly and will take time not just passing laws but also reasserting the oversight role that Trump thwarted. There’s nothing incompatible about an early push on executive orders to clean up Trump’s mess and fostering a healthier relationship with Congress.
But working with Congress doesn’t necessarily mean the bipartisan outreach that the Times recommends. Biden and congressional Democrats show every sign of pushing ahead with an ambitious stimulus agenda, even if it means stepping on the toes of Republicans. As Politico reports, “Democrats are vowing to move forward on a new stimulus package as soon as next week, with or without Republicans. Though Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi have not officially said they plan to pursue a party-line approach through budget reconciliation, many Democrats now believe that’s the only way forward.”
Reconciliation won’t give the Democrats everything they want. Any efforts at legislating outside the budget will require either overturning the filibuster or getting the support of 10 or more Senate Republicans. Both paths are uncertain and perhaps foredoomed.
Still, the early turn to reconciliation shows that congressional Democrats aren’t being sidelined. They are ready to work with Biden. On some significant issues, like the second impeachment of Donald Trump, congressional Democrats have forged a path independent of the president.
Biden’s executive orders aren’t a threat to democracy. Rather, they spring from an energized Democratic Party that is helping to revitalize American democracy and make it functional again.
In addition to leading the impeachment of a former president and the inauguration of a new one, Pelosi (D-Calif.) has also played a unique role these past few weeks: emotional shepherd to a flock of traumatized lawmakers, staff and police still reeling from the aftermath of rioters storming the Capitol in a bid to overturn the 2020 election.
Some of her staff members locked themselves in a windowless conference room, blocking the door with office furniture and hiding under a table for 2½ hours as rioters tried to break down the door.
Lawmakers inside the House chamber donned gas masks and crawled across the floor, then ran to secure locations under the armed protection of U.S. Capitol Police.
Since then, the speaker’s office has served a leading role in providing the congressional community access to post-traumatic counseling.
Former President Donald Trump’s five impeachment defense attorneys have left a little more than a week before his trial is set to begin, according to people familiar with the case, amid a disagreement over his legal strategy.
It was a dramatic development in the second impeachment trial for Trump, who has struggled to find lawyers willing to take his case. And now, with legal briefs due next week and a trial set to begin only days later, Trump is clinging to his election fraud charade and suddenly finds himself without legal representation.
A person familiar with the departures told CNN that Trump wanted the attorneys to argue there was mass election fraud and that the election was stolen from him rather than focus on the legality of convicting a president after he’s left office. Trump was not receptive to the discussions about how they should proceed in that regard.
New data showing that two COVID-19 vaccines are far less effective in South Africa than in other places they were tested have heightened fears that the coronavirus is quickly finding ways to elude the world’s most powerful tools to contain it.
The U.S. company Novavax reported this week that although its vaccine was nearly 90% effective in clinical trials conducted in Britain, the figure fell to 49% in South Africa — and that nearly all the infections the company analyzed in South Africa involved the B.1.351 variant that emerged there late last year and has spread to the United States and at least 30 other countries.
Democrats are haunted by legislative memories of 2009 as they fashion their response to the multiple crises of 2021.
Their strategy for addressing the coronavirus pandemic and its accompanying economic havoc is being shaped by what they see as their own miscalculations 12 years ago when Barack Obama became president, they controlled both houses of Congress and they tackled both an economic rescue package and a sweeping health care overhaul.
In retrospect, in the quest to win Republican backing for both, Democrats say, they settled for too small an economic stimulus and extended talks on the health care measure for too long. Those experiences explain why the White House and top Democrats are determined to move quickly this time on a plan for pandemic aid, and why they are reluctant to pare back their nearly $2 trillion stimulus package or make significant changes that would dilute it with no certainty of bringing Republicans on board.
“The dangers of undershooting our response are far greater than overshooting,” said Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York and the new majority leader. “We should have learned the lesson of 2008 and 2009, when Congress was too timid and constrained in its response to the financial crisis.”
That view was driving the party’s tepid response on Sunday to a new offer from 10 Senate Republicans who asked for a meeting with President Biden to lay out a substantially smaller compromise package that they said could pass quickly with bipartisan support. In a letter, the 10 senators — notably enough to defeat a filibuster — said their priorities aligned with Mr. Biden’s on crucial areas such as vaccine distribution.
But members of the group made clear in interviews on Sunday that their plan amounted to a fraction of Mr. Biden’s proposal: $600 billion. Democrats said they would review it, but would insist on a comprehensive legislative response.
Some Democrats still hold out hope of reaching bipartisan agreement on at least some elements of the administration’s coronavirus response and say the party must make a legitimate attempt at coming together with Republicans.
“We ought to try to do what we can do in a bipartisan way,” Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, a leading Democrat in the bipartisan talks, told reporters. He said it would then be appropriate for Mr. Schumer to use “other means to move things along” if progress could not be made.
Most Democrats do not appear to be in a mood to wait long. The lessons of 2009 are telling them that it is preferable to be accused of failing to be bipartisan than to be accused of failing to do all they could have to confront a national crisis.
Ohio Sen. Rob Portman (R) said Sunday that Republicans will push the Biden administration to target direct payments to Americans making less than $50,000 per year in the upcoming COVID-19 stimulus package.
Speaking with Dana Bash on CNN’s “State of the Union,” the retiring senator called on Democrats not to push the White House’s COVID-19 framework through Congress via the budget reconciliation process, which would allow a simple majority vote for passage, and to work with Republicans on a smaller stimulus package.
“My hope is the president will meet with us,” Portman said, adding that Republicans have had little success in their attempts to meet with the Biden administration to present their priorities for the next stimulus package.
“This one, nobody was consulted, including the Democrats on our bipartisan group that compiled the previous legislation, and, frankly, we haven’t gotten much of a response yet until today,” he added.
Bash then asked how much Republicans would be willing to spend on a COVID-19 stimulus package, noting that a letter released Sunday by Sen. Susan Collins’s (R-Maine) office and signed by Portman did not put an exact dollar amount on the GOP proposal.
“It’ll be less than $1.9 [trillion] because a lot of what the administration has released has nothing to do with COVID-19,” Portman responded.
what BS. how many people have tried as hard as they could, but have a mortgage or high rent, medical, student loans and at least one high credit card. Actually, many people with high rent or a mortgage are going to be in their car, soon. i’m seeing more and more cars parked in nooks and crannies, especially in parking lots on the coast and someone is living in the hills above my home.
cruel people. dearly hope the dems say loudly and clearly, so sorry you don’t want to help people! we, however, are, right now!
In March, my colleague Ali Breland and I wrote about a pro-logging, anti-climate group called Timber Unity that helped to scuttle Oregon legislation for cap-and-trade in 2019 and 2020. To the average Oregon voter, Timber Unity appeared to be an organic backlash fueled by frustrated rural voters in a state dominated by Democrats. The group’s rallies, which drew hundreds and sometimes thousands of truckers and loggers to the capitol, made it appear that it had broad support among Republican voters.
But actually, Timber Unity was founded and bankrolled by the logging industry—specifically Andrew Miller, CEO of a timber company called Stimson Lumber. At Timber Unity’s urging, in June 2019, Republican legislators staged a walkout that denied the government its two-thirds quorum to function, thus stalling climate legislation indefinitely. Timber Unity’s hijinks in the state legislature were coming to a head just as COVID-19 became a national emergency, depriving the state of a normal working legislative session at the start of the crisis.
Timber Unity has been praised by state and national Republicans, and includes at least one former Oregon GOP lawmaker among its leaders. But as we reported in March, there is a troubling strain of extremism among some members of the group, and leaders have done little to denounce it.
yup. it’s part of most western states. cowboys/loggers v. enviros.
i found this beautiful long sleeve T with all kinds of birds done very artistically on it. this was probably almost 3 decades ago. It said, “I’m with the birds.” I stopped at one of my favorite type of places–a little cafe on one of my long coast trips and didn’t realize until a lot later why everyone seemed to bristle when i went in. i was all friendly cuz i had no idea and it pretty much went away, but funny story anyway. :O)
glad to see it, actually. hopefully will make it more real, easier to sue for.
also how many hacks do we have to see before we admit computers are a terrible way to tally anything and we also need to go back to paper. much easier to hire and train chain of custody guardians, and gainful seasonal employment, too.
“Until recently, even the most secretive material—about wiretaps, witnesses and national security concerns—could be filed electronically. But that changed” after SolarWinds breach. Under new rules highly sensitive documents have to be printed out and hand-delivered to courthouse
We’re a disruptive army of young people fighting to elect Progressives and bend the establishment to the will of the people. We're #DoneWaiting on our current politicians to act– we need real Progressive policies now! pic.twitter.com/GT96Rb3a3F
Those who focus, or even obsess in Stein’s case, on the personality of Dore and Assange are doing that to take the focus off the truths they talk about.
That fact that Dore and Assange are “assholes” is irrelevant.
And I hope that Bernie doesn’t have anything to do with bringing Neera Tanden in!!!!!!!!!!
I haven’t watched a Dore video in months as I do not like his style. That said I see the titles of his videos as I surf progressive media. I find myself agreeing with the subject being put forth by many of the guests . To automatically diss because of the source to me seems close minded.
i can generally find the same people elsewhere and i don’t have time to go out of my way to listen to him. the whole bullying thing that he and his people’s party people did after it all went down really lost a lot of people.
telling us we didn’t care if people got health care bc we saw a disrespectful, screaming man and said so… they couldn’t even admit that although their message was good, Dore was awful. i don’t know if he believes that Bernie is a nazi or that AOC is gaslighting everyone, but it’s a shame, to me, that he’s convinced a lot of tweeters of these very things.
and this is not even talking about his performance that day.
i always say, if you enjoy his show, go for it. please take him off the MPP advisory board.
I don’t think anyone is saying that you should listen to Dore, let alone go out of your way to listen to him. It’s the people who go out of their way to malign Dore that Glenn is referring to.
not irrelevant when he’s made a member of the advisory board of a new party. take him off that, and I’m good. he can go off all he wants. and if he actually pushes some people, great, although mostly it looks like he’s just talking to his fans, at this point.
oldtown61
You should watch the video with Glen Greenwald. Glen does most of the talking. Glenn does kinda go off and curses quite a bit. I think he may have been talking to you.
Cornel West, People’s Party Advisory Board member, has referred to Jimmy as a national treasure.
DR. CORNEL WEST Interview: Force The Vote! from DEC2020
No, Glenn is most def NOT talking to me, but it is typical of Dore supporters to malign people who don’t support him being on the MPP board.
i’m wagering Glenn didn’t see his performance on the livestream. and if Glenn is talking to all of us who disagree on Dore, fine. i totally disagree.
i don’t mind people cursing. i mind people telling the host of the people’s party stream to f off and yelling at and cursing others in the discussion instead of letting them present their views.
i love Glenn and Cornell.
and if he has a show i want to watch, i’ll watch it. i’ve watched others. he’s great at doing his show, obviously.
no self reflection there at all, after what he pulled off.
it wasn’t about his FTV strategy, for me, I was for it. It was about his behavior. Maybe Glenn didn’t see the stream of the meeting.
or maybe there’s a lot that happened before the streaming. all i know is when i tweeted that his behavior was unacceptable as a member of the board of a party i was supporting, i got bullied and told some really violent, misogynist stuff and so did a whole lot of other people.
and then Brie and Ryan wouldn’t even admit that it was not OK to tell Katie to fuck off. and that the livestream was a complete mess.
Can you imagine? it’s ok that you told me to fuck off? Fuck that.
and then the whole “woke” nasty left lit into anyone who didn’t agree that Jimmy is a god. lost a lot of people. he may have gained a lot of angry people, but he lost a lot, too.
Hope we can continue to fight the good fight together. You can fight with Dore, I’ll fight with others.
oldtown61
I did not enter this fray today until you mentioned Jimmy Dore in your #donewaiting post. I’ll just let you rag on him next time.
turned me off when he told Katie Halper to fuck off and bullied everyone else. his show is fine, if you like him. but the advisory board of a new party, sorry, no way. i support all new parties, but i’m def looking elsewhere after seeing his performance and the crew doubling down, shamefully, in support of him. why would Katie be adoring a man who just told her to f off?
i’ve known men like that up close, misogynistic, maybe even racist, certainly a bully and probably a drunk.
i won’t fight for a party that puts him on a pedestal.
i actually hate it when people compare him to bernie. i don’t know about Assange–never saw him behave like this. i certainly support Assange. but if he acted like Dore did in an official party event, no way would i support him to be on that board.
I can see why you like that account, lots of good tweets, including retweets from Rashida, Bernie & Nina.
I just scanned the last couple of weeks of their tweets though, and didn’t see any mention of Jimmy Dore. Why do you think they might put Dore on their board?
I’m not buying liberal efforts to nominate Jimmy Dore as a segment of the left’s ‘leader’. I think that’s a campaign to discredit and silence a chunk of people to their left.
oldtown61
People’s Party Nick Brana w/Jordan Chariton
Why Progressives Need to SNAP OUT of Longterm Process Thinking
Can a People’s Party Win?
oldtown61
Jimmy has a pretty big audience these days. He was an early promotor for Nick and the Draft Bernie for a People’s Party movement.
Too late probably for this particular thread, but I did a one-on-one initial discussion with the young lady who is the MPP rep in my area. I printed out all the links she gave me and have them in a folder. Will be watching to see what develops. 😊👍
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-31-21-sen-bernie-sanders-gov/story?id=75594037
https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/senator-bernie-sanders-75595942
my only complaint is too bad he swallowed the 1400 kool aid. he’s better than that. Manchin and Sinema should take that as a win, and take Kamala’s presser as a warning that there will be more. complaining about bipartisanship when they oppose their own party at every turn.
That was a mistake from Bernie.
Look at THIS tweet only if your sense of humor is in control today 😉
Levi looks like our Billy
Looks like Levi has at least some of the Canadian military on his side. He’s a natural diplomat.
adogable!
Tip Jar for jcitybone and polarbear (yesterday)!
Pet pics always welcome as I do not have a pet and must live through you 😉
Niño sez hey!
Niño! How is Niño today? Beautiful kitty…..
What is Niño’s favorite treat? 🌿
I don’t give him treats, other than catnip for the scratching post. He’s a fan of Science Diet food though.
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Robert Reich
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/31/republicans-biden-covid-trump-congress
I hope NYCVG doesn’t mind, but I’d like to carry the last post from yesterday’s OT over to here:
Some nuggets from the article:
Bill McKibben is impressed by the initial actions of the Biden Administration
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-biden-administrations-landmark-day-in-the-fight-for-the-climate
T and R, jcb!! 🙂
Jeet Heer
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-executive-order-times/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-ptsd-capitol-riots/2021/01/30/c728b47e-6274-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html
might be a good time to ask for more mental health services for all americans.
Doesn’t sound like she did anything. It sounds more like every person for themselves and her office was in a strategic location.
lol
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/butch-bowers-deborah-barbier-trump-impeachment-team/index.html
If tRump serves as his own lawyer/witness, his flock will love it. 💩
that would be awesome. popcorn time, for real.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-01-29/as-coronavirus-variants-threaten-immunity-the-race-to-vaccinate-shows-pitfalls
i’m hoping to wait for one that includes the worst of the variants. we’ll see. the women and dogs i walk with once a week may want me to get it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/31/us/democrats-agenda-coronavirus-economy.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Shove it Rob
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/536658-retiring-gop-senator-calls-for-direct-payments-to-be-cut-off-at
what BS. how many people have tried as hard as they could, but have a mortgage or high rent, medical, student loans and at least one high credit card. Actually, many people with high rent or a mortgage are going to be in their car, soon. i’m seeing more and more cars parked in nooks and crannies, especially in parking lots on the coast and someone is living in the hills above my home.
cruel people. dearly hope the dems say loudly and clearly, so sorry you don’t want to help people! we, however, are, right now!
It’s just the usual horseh1t the GOPukes have been getting away with for decades.💩👍
“some” dems are pretty much manchin and sinema? that would be 2.
From PB’s neck of the woods
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2021/01/timber-unity-capitol-riot/
yup. it’s part of most western states. cowboys/loggers v. enviros.
i found this beautiful long sleeve T with all kinds of birds done very artistically on it. this was probably almost 3 decades ago. It said, “I’m with the birds.” I stopped at one of my favorite type of places–a little cafe on one of my long coast trips and didn’t realize until a lot later why everyone seemed to bristle when i went in. i was all friendly cuz i had no idea and it pretty much went away, but funny story anyway. :O)
Mother Jones sure writes with a RW slant. No wonder I avoid reading it.
glad to see it, actually. hopefully will make it more real, easier to sue for.
also how many hacks do we have to see before we admit computers are a terrible way to tally anything and we also need to go back to paper. much easier to hire and train chain of custody guardians, and gainful seasonal employment, too.
not glad they got our secrets, although we give them to the Chinese to make our weapons anyway, but glad they’re moving to paper.
hoping they don’t put Dore on the Board.
for goodness sakes –
https://peoplesparty.org/
Why Online Dems Hate Jimmy Dore! w/ Glenn Greenwald
There are two more segments with Glen here:
https://www.youtube.com/c/thejimmydoreshow/videos
Good listen. Glenn goes off.
Those who focus, or even obsess in Stein’s case, on the personality of Dore and Assange are doing that to take the focus off the truths they talk about.
That fact that Dore and Assange are “assholes” is irrelevant.
And I hope that Bernie doesn’t have anything to do with bringing Neera Tanden in!!!!!!!!!!
That would be terrible.
I haven’t watched a Dore video in months as I do not like his style. That said I see the titles of his videos as I surf progressive media. I find myself agreeing with the subject being put forth by many of the guests . To automatically diss because of the source to me seems close minded.

i can generally find the same people elsewhere and i don’t have time to go out of my way to listen to him. the whole bullying thing that he and his people’s party people did after it all went down really lost a lot of people.
telling us we didn’t care if people got health care bc we saw a disrespectful, screaming man and said so… they couldn’t even admit that although their message was good, Dore was awful. i don’t know if he believes that Bernie is a nazi or that AOC is gaslighting everyone, but it’s a shame, to me, that he’s convinced a lot of tweeters of these very things.
and this is not even talking about his performance that day.
i always say, if you enjoy his show, go for it. please take him off the MPP advisory board.
I agree
I don’t think anyone is saying that you should listen to Dore, let alone go out of your way to listen to him. It’s the people who go out of their way to malign Dore that Glenn is referring to.
not irrelevant when he’s made a member of the advisory board of a new party. take him off that, and I’m good. he can go off all he wants. and if he actually pushes some people, great, although mostly it looks like he’s just talking to his fans, at this point.
You should watch the video with Glen Greenwald. Glen does most of the talking. Glenn does kinda go off and curses quite a bit. I think he may
have been talking to you.
Cornel West, People’s Party Advisory Board member, has referred to Jimmy as a national treasure.
DR. CORNEL WEST Interview: Force The Vote! from DEC2020
No, Glenn is most def NOT talking to me, but it is typical of Dore supporters to malign people who don’t support him being on the MPP board.
i’m wagering Glenn didn’t see his performance on the livestream. and if Glenn is talking to all of us who disagree on Dore, fine. i totally disagree.
i don’t mind people cursing. i mind people telling the host of the people’s party stream to f off and yelling at and cursing others in the discussion instead of letting them present their views.
i love Glenn and Cornell.
and if he has a show i want to watch, i’ll watch it. i’ve watched others. he’s great at doing his show, obviously.
no self reflection there at all, after what he pulled off.
it wasn’t about his FTV strategy, for me, I was for it. It was about his behavior. Maybe Glenn didn’t see the stream of the meeting.
or maybe there’s a lot that happened before the streaming. all i know is when i tweeted that his behavior was unacceptable as a member of the board of a party i was supporting, i got bullied and told some really violent, misogynist stuff and so did a whole lot of other people.
and then Brie and Ryan wouldn’t even admit that it was not OK to tell Katie to fuck off. and that the livestream was a complete mess.
Can you imagine? it’s ok that you told me to fuck off? Fuck that.
and then the whole “woke” nasty left lit into anyone who didn’t agree that Jimmy is a god. lost a lot of people. he may have gained a lot of angry people, but he lost a lot, too.
Hope we can continue to fight the good fight together. You can fight with Dore, I’ll fight with others.
I did not enter this fray today until you mentioned Jimmy Dore
in your #donewaiting post. I’ll just let you rag on him next time.
No worries. Hope the rest of your day goes well.
yeah. sorry i went off, too.
Glenn basically compared us to karens, tho, and that was exremely insulting. you might not know my pretty radical activist past and views, too.
i could have found a better way to let you know.
working on it. :hug emoji:
Discussion is good as long as it is civil. After all we are all on the same side.😁
i maybe vented some of the stuff i wish i could have said out loud on twitter, too.
Definitely lost me.
haha bernie bringing in neera. i’ll eat crow if i see proof of that. typical.
If Bernie votes yes on Neera then he would be helping to bring her in. Hopefully he gives the thumb down on her.
turned me off when he told Katie Halper to fuck off and bullied everyone else. his show is fine, if you like him. but the advisory board of a new party, sorry, no way. i support all new parties, but i’m def looking elsewhere after seeing his performance and the crew doubling down, shamefully, in support of him. why would Katie be adoring a man who just told her to f off?
i’ve known men like that up close, misogynistic, maybe even racist, certainly a bully and probably a drunk.
i won’t fight for a party that puts him on a pedestal.
i actually hate it when people compare him to bernie. i don’t know about Assange–never saw him behave like this. i certainly support Assange. but if he acted like Dore did in an official party event, no way would i support him to be on that board.
I’ve never heard anyone compare Dore to Bernie.
I can see why you like that account, lots of good tweets, including retweets from Rashida, Bernie & Nina.
I just scanned the last couple of weeks of their tweets though, and didn’t see any mention of Jimmy Dore. Why do you think they might put Dore on their board?
I’m not buying liberal efforts to nominate Jimmy Dore as a segment of the left’s ‘leader’. I think that’s a campaign to discredit and silence a chunk of people to their left.
People’s Party
Nick Brana w/Jordan Chariton
Why Progressives Need to SNAP OUT of Longterm Process Thinking
Can a People’s Party Win?
Jimmy has a pretty big audience these days.
He was an early promotor for Nick and the Draft Bernie for a People’s Party movement.
Too late probably for this particular thread, but I did a one-on-one initial discussion with the young lady who is the MPP rep in my area. I printed out all the links she gave me and have them in a folder. Will be watching to see what develops. 😊👍
I do NOT like nor respect Neera Tanden, and it has little to do with what she posts on TWITter.
advisory council
https://peoplesparty.org/force-the-vote-cornel-west-jimmy-dore/