HomeUncategorized10/26 News Roundup & Open Thread
newest oldest most voted
Notify of
jcitybone

https://www.salon.com/2019/10/26/the-conservatism-of-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-and-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/

The latest bromide — boring and obfuscating as always — is that mainstream American political figures, most especially presidential candidates Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, and the four young women in Congress known as “The Squad,” are fringe lunatics arguing on behalf of ideas that they cribbed from the diary of Vladimir Lenin.:

Reality is consistently stubborn and subversive toward right wing propaganda. A cursory study of history, or a functional memory, indicates that Senators Sanders and Warren, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), along with her House colleagues Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), and Ilhan Omar (D-MN), are merely trying to restore balance to the American experience — a balance that existed in such radical eras of the 1940s and ‘50s. The proposals of Warren and Sanders would make them moderates in most Western European countries, but they also reveal a streak of conservatism, if one of the ways to understand conservatism is the emphasis on the preservation of order in society, the imposition of limits and the respect for tradition in complicated, evolving societies

Lazy journalists, milquetoast Democratic strategists, and citizens of curiosity and conscience should take note that the illuminative story of domestic politics is not how the prominence of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or the popularity of Warren and Sanders, is proof that the Democratic Party has drifted off the edge of the “far left,” but that the far right has so thoroughly succeeded in moving the country’s political culture away from the center that the moderate policies of the 1970s now apparently resemble Fidel Castro’s revolutionary agenda.

A more helpful and truthful framework would instruct the electorate that the braver and more creative Democrats are making a valiant effort to return the United States to the more balanced and equitable policies of the past — policies that created the largest middle class in the history of the world. In other words, they are conservatives.

jcitybone

Here’s some lazy “journalists”. I say go for it Liz. Move to the middle and leave the left to Bernie. Some more bad advice from this idiot.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bill-maher-squad-bernie-sanders-helps-warren

Real Time” host Bill Maher said Friday night that the “Squad” endorsements that Bernie Sanders recently received will likely benefit his 2020 rival Elizabeth Warren instead, by prompting her to move “to the middle.”

“The Squad coming out for Bernie, the first thing I thought was, it’s good for Elizabeth Warren,” Maher said during the show’s opening interview segment with CNN anchor Chris Cuomo. “Because it makes him to the left of her and she needs to move to the middle.”

Cuomo warned Democrats that their party “is a little bit more extreme” in this election than in years past when candidates typically move to the center after the primary elections are over. He cited pollng that shows candidates who either identify or can be labeled as a socialist lose by several points to President Trump.

“I think labels matter in politics,” Cuomo continued. “I think Senator Sanders has a tough time in defining socialist as a good thing in a capitalist society. I think [Democrats] have got a tough task.”

Humphrey shared this last night

magsview

The way Cuomo said, “a bunch of freshmen”..

as though, ‘Pffft, they didn’t even undergo fraternity initiations yet, why are people listening to THEM??’

So disrespectful. Cuomo came across as a real ass, imo. Maher should stick to comedy.

Benny
Benny

He has gone full blown centrist.

orlbucfan

Maher is getting senile. He did his end of show rant by accusing Bernie of backing the Boston Bomber’s right to vote in jail. Yeah, Bill, like that’s something to worry about. He no longer talks about climate change. That’s what attracted me to begin with. I paid good $$ to see him live twice. What a disappointment he is now. Maher’s rich so forget M4A. Sad and missing the point.

NYCVG
NYCVG

Bill has lost his mind trying to dance to the tune his owners are playing.

If he keeps this up his owners will be the only audience he retains.

Last night was the worst of all. Including his “thoughtful” consideration of total losers like Amy K.

polarbear4

remember, they officially made propaganda legal here under Obama. now we need a billionaire lefty to dtart a big, new channel and call them out. i can dream.

jcitybone

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/2019/10/25/sanders-calls-worker-representation-corporate-boards/2456737001/

The Maytag Company used to employ more than 3,000 people in this Iowa town. But then Maytag was bought by Whirlpool, and left the town behind in 2007.

David Faircloth, 76, said he remembered the way the town was before it left.

“In their last few years, Whirlpool tore the guts out of Maytag,” Faircloth said. House after house saw “for sale” signs rise. Engineer after engineer was cut. “They let go of me in 2003.”

Newton, Iowa was forced to get creative when the company town’s former anchor left. The Maytag Hotel — which claims to be the first hotel west of the Mississippi to have air conditioning — was just this year converted into low-income apartments. One of the former factory buildings northeast of town ditched the appliances in favor of wind turbine blades. The former Maytag headquarters is now an event space.

On Friday, the Maytag Complex was re-purposed again, as a backdrop for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont’s “End Corporate Greed” tour.

“Today, we are going to tell corporate America, with me as president, we will bring forth actions to stop this devastation and greed,” the Democratic presidential candidate said.

He said if he were president, he would require large companies to give workers ownership stakes in their businesses. That would let workers have a voice in decisions like the one Maytag made years ago. In an interview with the Associated Press, Sanders said his plan would give workers 20% of shares in the companies and 45% of the seats on corporate boards.

magsview

I’ve been pondering that percentage of 45% of corporate board seats ever since I heard it for the first time on Thursday night. It’s a bit of an odd number to settle on.

Obviously it’s not half, so ultimately whatever those board members want can always be voted down-is this Bernie being pragmatic?

OzoneTom
OzoneTom

Workers typically have 0% now, so that is a big gain. And it may be a starting offer subject to negotiations in the legislative process.

Seats on the board will give workers a significant voice in the boardroom and at shareholder meetings. Board members require shareholder approval.

How monolithic board factions behave would probably depend on how a particular company adjusts to such a change.

magsview

Thank you for your thoughtful reply Tom!

jcitybone

https://jacobinmag.com/2019/10/bernie-sanders-campaign-criminal-justice

This week, several leading presidential candidates — including Donald Trump — will gather in Columbia, South Carolina to discuss criminal justice reform and to offer plans for addressing the crisis of mass incarceration in America. The event is being held at Benedict College, less than an hour west of the Lee Correctional Institution, where seven young men bled to death last year during a riot that was the direct outcome of the barbarism of our nation’s prisons.

The conditions that led to the tragedy at Lee, and which are visible all over the country, have become so appalling that even politicians on the Right have begun to pay lip service to the problem. Though the United States makes up only 5 percent of the world’s population, we have 25 percent of its prisoners. This is because we jail the poor for being poor, we over-sentence them for nonviolent offenses, and we allow unconscionable human rights abuses to occur behind prison walls.

Despite the bipartisan consensus that our system is flawed, there has been little mainstream discussion of the kind of political and economic transformation we will need to end mass incarceration.

The exception to the rule is Bernie Sanders, who earlier this year rolled out the most ambitious and transformative criminal justice platform in modern history.

Sanders’s Justice and Safety for All platform advances three major paradigm shifts in criminal justice policy: 1) Shattering a zero-sum notion of justice, 2) Refuting the idea that you have to fix people to fix the system, and 3) Hitching criminal justice reform to the expansion of universal public goods. The Sanders platform makes clear that there can never be a just criminal justice system as long as there is an unjust and deeply unequal America.

magsview

Now that Trump did his thing there yesterday, I’m kind of curious how the others will do over the weekend.

Theoretically there won’t be loud protesters again? Will there be more students in attendence?

Trump speaks at HBCU Benedict College as students are asked to stay in dorms

Benedict students, who the week prior pondered what questions they might ask the president once his surprise visit to the forum” was announced, were asked to stay in their dorms.

Seven students were allowed inside for the speech.

The requests for students and faculty to remain inside was a matter of security, school spokeswoman Kymm Hunter said. The school’s police worked in conjunction with the Secret Service to develop a security plan out of “safety concerns and threats of protests,” she said.

Benedict students watched (the protests) from dormitory windows.

At the event, Trump was named the winner of the Bipartisan Justice Award. The award from the 20/20 Bipartisan Justice Center, a nonprofit organization founded by 20 black Republicans and 20 black Democrats in 2015, is given annually to a public servant who has demonstrated the ability to work across the aisle to achieve meaningful progress in reforming the criminal justice system, according to the White House.

Trump was honored for leadership in the passage of the First Step Act, which expands opportunities for elderly inmates to get released, increases the amount of good-time credit inmates can receive and has provisions to help inmates transition back into society.

Not sure how effective this move is/will be.

The president’s appearance at the event prompted at least one Democratic challenger to pull out of the weekend forum.

U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris of California announced she would discuss the issue elsewhere in Columbia.

“I won’t be complicit in papering over Trump’s record,” said in a Twitter post Friday evening.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/10/25/trump-speaks-hbcu-benedict-college-students-asked-stay-dorms/2462497001/

humphrey

LOL She just wants to paper over her own record with regards to criminal justice reform.

Neocon Kamala Harris In 2010 Goes Full Hillary Laughs About Locking Up Innocent People

Skip to toolbar