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orlbucfan

T and R x 2, jcb!! 🙂 Senate: 49-50. So where’s this GOPuke tidal wave? Snort!

wi64

The Great GQP red tinkel of 22,one for the history books 🙂

Benny

Not that this guy is relevant, but I’m hearing more GOP grumbling about the days after with mail-in ballots. If the GOP weren’t so full of CT, they could start counting ballots before the election – and maybe finish in a few days instead of two weeks (Arizona). They probably think that if you’re not in line by 5 pm of voting day, too bad. They complained, especially during 2008, when many lines went on for hours.

wi64

I wonder why he made this BS statement. Oh wait ite because Milwaukee didnt count the mail ins until they were done with the election day vote. That vote carried the day for Evers in 18. Skippy boy thought he won…

phatkhat

Yeah? Well, one of the US’ largest trucking companies – even if they are bottom feeders – is headquartered in Green Bay. So Scotty wants to keep truckers from voting? Most of ’em are on the road on Tuesdays.

Benny

‘I never doubted it’: why film-maker Michael Moore forecast ‘blue tsunami’ in midterms

In the lead-up to last week’s midterm elections in America, the punditocracy of commentators, pollsters and political-types were almost united: a “red wave” of Republican gains was on the cards.

But one dissenting voice stood out: that of leftist filmmaker Michael Moore. Against all the commonplace predictions, he had forecast Democrats would do well. He called it a “blue tsunami”.

That proved to be true in his home state of Michigan, where Democrats won governor, house and senate for the first time in 40 years, often by large margins. It’s been more of a blue wall across the rest of the country, where Republican gains mostly failed to materialize, with the exception of Florida. But even so, the strong Democrat performance has stunned people on both sides of the US political divide, delighting the left and sparking hand-wringing on the right.

With the Democrats retaining power in the Senate, and a chance that even the House could remain in their control, suddenly Moore is looking like a prognosticator par excellence.

“I never doubted it – there was no way the Republicans were going to have some kind of landslide,” Moore said in an interview.

But, he added: “I don’t have any special powers, I’m not related to Nostradamus or Cassandra, but I was stunned once again that nobody was willing to stick their neck out. I was just trying to say that common sense, and data – and if you’re not living in a bubble – should bring you to the same conclusion that there are more of us than them.”

“We’ve won seven of the last eight elections in the popular vote, we’ve got more registered, we have a new crop of young people every year, plus the fact that 70% of eligible voters are either women, people of color, or 18 to 25 year olds, or a combination of the three,” he said. “That’s the Democratic party’s base”.

In the last of his increasingly popular mass emails, Mike’s Midterm Tsunami Truth #41, published on Wednesday, he wrote a devastating critique of the conventional wisdom of a US electorate focused on economic woes, fearful of crime and resigned to the loss of abortion rights, while non-plussed by the election-denying Republicans.

“We were lied to for months by the pundits and pollsters and the media. Voters had not ‘moved on’ from the Supreme Court’s decision to debase and humiliate women by taking federal control over their reproductive organs. Crime was not at the forefront of the voters ‘simple’ minds. Neither was the price of milk. It was their democracy that they came to fight for yesterday,” he penned.

Moore doesn’t have an answer for why pundits, pollsters and the media get it repeatedly wrong but theorizes that self-reinforcing storylines become established that are hard to back away off. He also questions the fear-mongering that’s often implicit in narrative lines the media adopt. “They may be trying to gin up the vote through fear – ‘This is going to happen so you’d better get your butts to polls’. They may think it’s noble, but I don’t think it’s noble at all,” he said.

Crime was not at the forefront of the voters ‘simple’ minds. Neither was the price of milk. It was their democracy that they came to fight for.

And there are questions for the political machinery. As anyone who has voted knows, the moment you register to vote or donate to candidate, the inbox is almost instantaneously bombarded with what Moore calls “scare emails”.

“Don’t they understand that’s just going to depress the vote? If we don’t keep the House I think the reason for that is the scare tactics of the Democratic party and perhaps some enablers in the media who are ginning up this, ‘Trump is on his way back, folks, here comes the big bad boogie man’. By doing that they hurt the thing overall.”

He wants a more positive message from the left, based less on scaring people and more on inspiring them. Already a self-defeating post-Trump narrative is taking shape, Moore believes, and it revolves mostly around Florida governor Ron DeSantis. “Oh, DeSantis is going to win because he’s like Trump but he’s smarter oooh, oooh”.

DeSantis does represent the kind of forceful, base-pleasing call-to-arms that Democrats fear. “He is clever to rent private jets and fly refugees up to Martha’s Vineyard,” Moore says. “Do you know the sort of orgasmic feeling that happens inside a right-winger when they see him doing something wonderful and crazy like that, slamming it right in the liberals face.”

The left can learn a lesson from that playbook: get creative, though not cruel. He points out that wasn’t until 10pm the night before the vote that Democrats finally put up a campaign ad featuring LeBron James, the most popular basketball player in America, asking voters in Georgia to vote against Herschel Walker in Georgia.

“Why didn’t they do that months ago? They wait until the last night to put up one of great African American sports stars?”

Last summer, when John Fetterman was laid up recovering from a stroke, his campaign went on Cameo.com and, for just $400, recruited reality-T.V. star Nicole “Snooki” Polizzi of MTV’s Jersey Shore fame.

“Hey Mehmet! This is Nicole ‘Snooki’ and I’m from ‘Jersey Shore’” Polizzi said in a video posted by Fetterman on Twitter, adding that she’d heard that he’d moved from New Jersey to Pennsylvania to “look for a new job.”

“And personally, I don’t know why anyone would want to leave Jersey because it’s, like, the best place ever,” she said. “And we’re all hot messes. But I want to say best of luck to you. I know you’re away from home and you’re in a new place, but Jersey will not forget you. I just want to let you know I will not forget you.”

The question for Democrats, Moore says, is why they wont use story-tellers, writers and creative people more often?

In 2016, before Hillary Clinton lost the election, Moore, Amy Schumer, Chris Rock and Bill Maher offered to write lines for her debates with Trump, he says.

“We offered to write great lines to throw at Trump whose his skin is so thin – and if she delivered them right – would just slide in and he’ll explode on the stage on live TV’, Moore recalls. “We were all-in on it, and nobody was going to know”.

The gang presented the scheme to the Clinton campaign – and got flatly rejected.

“They said, why would you do that? You know Amy, her comedy is apparently kind of dirty. Chris Rock, well he’s kind of controversial. They didn’t even get to me. They were so afraid of fucking up and being blamed… oh, so you were the one who let Amy Schumer and Michael Moore into the campaign. Thanks a lot!”

“That proves my point that we won when they stuffed $400 on the Jersey Shore lady. We need more of that. Call me. Call a couple of Monty Python people. Call us!”

Moore says two out of three emails he got after starting his email newsletter were from readers who signaled that they’d depressed themselves into thinking the mid-terms were a lost cause. Their reasoning followed, again, the narrative line of Biden’s low approval rating, inflation, the economy, crime and so on. They ignored the still burning rage of the loss of women’s reproductive rights.

“I said, what’s inflation or past elections got to do with anything? We don’t live in that time anymore. There are now going to be more women doctors than men, more women lawyers than men. Don’t you have a clue that there is something going on? You can’t take human rights away from an entire gender and not have that blow up in your face”.

The point was proved by the number of wins secured by abortion rights activists in ballot measures. There were wins in Kentucky, Michigan, California, Montana and Vermont, in addition to Kansas over the summer.

Thus the salient lesson from the midterms is, to Moore, for Democrats to stop depressing their own vote with pessimism, fear and conventional thinking. “The average liberal, progressive leftist needs to immediately stop think you’re going to lose. Stop it, stop it, stop it. Think ‘the American people are with us’,” he said.

orlbucfan

Amen, Michael! The Progressive grassroots sure don’t think it. That includes geezer Boomers like me. I’m already geared up to volunteer for my 5th campaign: to keep DeShitface out of the WH. Believe me, I’m dialed in even down here in corrupt Dumboville. Just drive about 45-60 minutes due east of my casa, and you’ll see why.

Benny

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Who knows? We may be adding Frost and Cesar to our Squad list!

orlbucfan

Frost has the cred. However, a crypto-currency bozo (who is losing his $$ass$$) was one of his biggest supporters. We will see.

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

Beautiful young faces. Take it from here y’all. We got your backs.

Benny

Sharice, all it takes is for you to take their corporate money donations, then you will find common ground very easily with the GOP. Here’s a test: get them to vote for cannabis legalization.

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

Uuugh. Pitiful.

Benny

Who Has the Edge in Georgia’s Suddenly Less Momentous Senate Runoff?

Had Democrats not won the very close Senate races in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Nevada, Georgia’s December 6 runoff between Democratic incumbent Raphael Warnock and Republican challenger Herschel Walker would have represented the second straight overtime match in the Peach State that decided control of the upper chamber. It would have been a familiar experience for Warnock, who won his seat in the dual January 2021 runoffs that sent the Atlanta minister and his ticket mate Jon Ossoff to Washington.

Instead, the runoff will decide whether Democrats will hang onto 50 Senate seats and run the chamber via Kamala Harris’s tiebreaking vote, as they have the last two years, or will gain the breathing room of a single vote that might modestly reduce the power of centrist heretics Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. And if, as still appears more likely than not, Republicans win control of the House, the precise Senate bean counting that dominated Washington speculation so often in 2021 and 2022 will become much less important as congressional gridlock paralyzes most legislation.

What is entirely unclear at this early point is which of the two runoff candidates benefits from the suddenly nonexistential stakes of the overtime contest.

On the one hand, the Republican voters who appear to have abandoned Herschel Walker in the first round, presumably because of the vast personal baggage that emerged into lurid sight during the 2022 campaign, will be under less pressure to put on the party yoke and come out on a Tuesday in December to save Walker’s candidacy in order to flip the Senate and smite Joe Biden. The former football legend ran five points behind Governor Brian Kemp and also trailed the other statewide Republican candidates, who all won majorities. As Greg Bluestein of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution notes, Georgia Democrats have been quick to note the changed context of the runoff:

[N]ow that Democrats control the Senate, Walker can’t cast the race as a battle to flip back control of the chamber. And that could give voters worried about Walker’s personal issues less of a reason to vote in a post-Thanksgiving overtime race. “Republicans’ main argument for electing Herschel Walker just went up in smoke,” said Sarafina Chitika, a Warnock campaign spokeswoman.

On the other hand, it’s possible the modified stakes of the runoff will also make it hard for Democrats to replicate the massive ground game that worked so astonishingly well in the last Senate runoffs, particularly if Donald Trump doesn’t give them an assist by traveling the state like a wounded werewolf, complaining about rigged Georgia elections and discouraging GOP-base turnout. (Trump’s presence or absence from the state this time around may be a problem for Walker’s campaign to navigate, however.)

Republicans handily won earlier Senate general-election runoffs in Georgia, in 1992 and 2008, and have long championed the state’s peculiar majority-vote requirement, thinking it gave them an ace in the hole. They also put a thumb on the scales in enacting a highly controversial election-law rewrite in 2021. Aside from its more general restrictions on voting opportunities, the law moved general-election runoffs for federal offices from January to December, reportedly because a shorter campaign would reduce the early in-person voting days on which Democrats relied to turn out their vote. And in a new development, Republican secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has ruled that early in-person voting cannot take place on the Saturday before the runoff, as the Journal-Constitution reports:

Early voting won’t be allowed on [that Saturday] because it’s the day after the state holiday formerly known as Robert E. Lee’s Birthday and two days after Thanksgiving. Georgia election officials said this weekend that state law prohibits in-person early voting on Saturdays if a holiday is within two days beforehand.

The state quietly dumped the Lee holiday in 2015 but created an unnamed state holiday the day after Thanksgiving. It’s as though Robert E. Lee reached from the grave and killed a potentially crucial day of in-person early voting.

One hard-to-calculate variable involves national party investment in the runoff. No, Democrats don’t need the Georgia seat to control the Senate, but Warnock is a valued member of the team who should command some major resources. It’s less clear that national Republicans will continue to raise heaven and earth to help a struggling Herschel Walker campaign. Prior to confirmation of the Arizona and Nevada results, several Republican senators had been pushing to postpone election of their leadership until after December 6, which might have made Walker’s success a sine qua non for Mitch McConnell’s continuation as leader of his conference. With GOP control of the Senate off the table and leadership elections apparently scheduled for the week of November 14, it remains to be seen if Herschel Walker is going to have the teammates he needs for a win on December 6 — or a full stadium of fans ready to urge him on.

orlbucfan

These media jokes need to get their math straight. Right now, it’s 50-49, Dems. Warnock winning will undercut Sinema-Manchin’s RW crooked BS.

LieparDestin

orlbucfan

POS.

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

From Down With Tyranny,
Hunt Is On For A New DCCC Chair– Tony Cárdenas & Ami Bera Are Even Worse Than Sean Patrick Maloney

This guy is going to lead the party’s efforts to win back the House? And now, believe it or not, another conservative California congressman, Ami Bera— so terrible that his race hasn’t even been called yet in a D+7 district— also threw his hat into the ring for the DCCC chair job. Bera, also a New Dem, schemed with other crooked congressmembers and candidates to get around campaign finance laws by using their wealthy parents to fatten each others’ campaign accounts. And Bera actually allowed his 83 year old father to take the rap for him and go to prison!!! A man with no honor and no loyalty… just perfect for the DCCC following Sean Patrick Maloney!

There’s more. Lots more.

https://www.downwithtyranny.com/post/hunt-is-on-for-a-new-dccc-chair-tony-c%C3%A1rdenas-ami-bera-are-even-worse-than-sean-patrick-maloney?postId=c7f502eb-cb4c-41a4-b9e8-12b46b3407d4&utm_campaign=6ee8232c-89c1-4dd1-8975-8ffc2278799d&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail_lp&utm_content=8f50b065-59de-40af-83a7-446fe7c94d50&cid=bb23cea9-cd29-4fea-85c0-ca002ba5cb6a

wi64

Well the DNC will find someone worse you can count on it.
I thought that Boehner and Gingrich were bad until Turtle hit the scene. Its a trait they both share.

orlbucfan

Sick Rott ran the Repuke Senate Re-election. His azz needs to be jailed.

wi64

The Rott & Cult-45 can share a cell.

LieparDestin

::edit::

orlbucfan

This is one of the finest music tunes done in any genre. It says: get with it!!!!

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

Niiice. But my absolute favorite Marley (in which he also sings of his Trenchtown) has brought me back from the edge many times – “No Woman No Cry”. Everything gon be alright.!!

orlbucfan

🙂 !!!

Benny

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/14/house-gop-leadership-elections-2022-elections-00066664

Kevin McCarthy’s allies have attempted to sway at least one moderate Democrat to the GOP side of the aisle in recent days, according to a person with knowledge of the situation — a sign of desperation as he searches for the 218 votes he’ll need to become House speaker next year.

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) has received calls from multiple people close to McCarthy, including one current and one former member, as the California Republican attempts to lock down support amid a burgeoning conservative rebellion, the person said. Cuellar repeatedly rejected the idea.

McCarthy and his staff were not part of the entreaties, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, and denied any involvement.

“Anyone suggesting this is simply exercising in fan fiction. Leader McCarthy is going to be elected Speaker by the current and newly-elected members of the House Republican Conference. Our efforts are exclusively focused on bringing our conference together and saving the country,” Mark Bednar, a McCarthy spokesperson, said in a statement.

Yet the outreach from Republicans close to him comes as he prepares to take his first step toward the speakership this week — one that’s looking increasingly like a leap into chaos.

And the outreach to Democrats, addressed on condition of anonymity, could backfire among conservatives in his conference whose votes he also needs. In a forum with other members Monday, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) referenced the GOP leader making calls to Democrats by saying that “if Kevin McCarthy can call Democrats for votes for the speakership, I can call them” to push for House rules changes.

As Republicans begin grappling with the reality of a much smaller majority next year than they’d hoped, the GOP leader’s once-clear ascent to the top House gavel is now under threat from the right. It’s an echo of the circumstances that helped derail his 2015 bid for the spot. And a full picture of his problems could emerge as soon as Tuesday, when McCarthy is slated to be nominated as the GOP conference’s pick for speaker and the House Freedom Caucus is preparing to put forward a symbolic challenger.

Conservatives want Tuesday’s scheduled leadership elections postponed until control of the House is certain. If McCarthy doesn’t agree, they plan to nominate Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) as an internal pick for speaker to demonstrate that the Californian doesn’t have the 218 GOP votes he needs when the full chamber votes on Jan. 3, according to a Republican with knowledge of the plan who spoke candidly on condition of anonymity.

Depending on how that first step plays out, more conservatives would then embrace an alternative pick to put forward as a consensus candidate, added this Republican — who said some signs are pointing to Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) as the Freedom Caucus’ consensus choice. CNN first reported the prospect that Biggs would be a symbolic alternative in step one of the plan.

It’s a risky gambit that’s clearly still in flux as the conference churns toward a leadership election that conservatives want to delay, a sentiment aired by Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) on Twitter on Sunday night. And it’s not clear how much McCarthy’s rival-turned-ally Jordan knows about the right flank’s plan, although though outside supporters aren’t hiding their views on the matter.

“This is about building to January,” Russ Vought, a Trump-era White House budget director aiding the plan from outside the Capitol, told Trump ally Steve Bannon during a Friday interview.

“And we have an opportunity to have a paradigm-shattering victory [on] the speakership,” Vought added, “to either be able to get Jim Jordan in as speaker — I don’t care if he’s not running right now — or to have a coalitional-style government where every decision goes through HFC.”

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who’s not a Freedom Caucus member, has also publicly touted Jordan as the best speakership candidate despite the Ohioan’s repeated public avowals to support McCarthy. Vought recently joined Gaetz’s podcast to talk up the need for a “wartime speaker.”

The Freedom Caucus is making a public push for institutional concessions from McCarthy, like restoring lawmakers’ ability to depose the speaker, adding more of their members to the conference’s influential Steering Committee, and more. While those demands are genuine, they also give cover to members who expect to oppose McCarthy even if every condition is granted.

Benny

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