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Hi and Happy Thanksgiving to all the Progressive Wingers! It’s been an age since I’ve commented here, but I have been stopping by often to catch up and stay informed. Bernie’s switch to the HELP committee has me a bit baffled, but I’m confident that he will do the best possible for education and unions on that committee. I guess with R’s in the House we are looking for a couple of years of stalemate, with no meaningful legislation passed. And there’s so much that the country needs! For example, hopefully the price of oil will somehow come down–at home we heat with heating oil here in far north NY and the price is anxiety-producing. The Colorado shootings are yet another tragedy and of course everyone immediately thinks of orange-man as being at the root of these insane, violent acts. Well, I can comment, but I’m not internet savvy enough to make posts–sorry! Since most of my information comes from the net–we gave up on MSM years ago!–TPW, Naked Capitalism and Caucus 99% are especially valuable to us. Speaking of, recently I am having connection problems with Caucus 99%, get the “refused to connect” message. I did the ip-restarts, but no luck. Does anyone know if their website is down? My thanks to all of you for keeping the TPW’s lights on here. And renewed wishes to all for a peaceful and happy Thanksgiving!


Good to see you eye!


When the shooting started, Mr. Fierro said, he hit the floor, pulling a friend down with him. As bullets sprayed, he saw the gunman move through the bar toward a door leading to a patio where dozens of bar patrons had fled. Mr. Fierro, who served in the Army for 15 years, said he raced across the room, grabbed the gunman by a handle on the back of his body armor, pulled him to the floor and jumped on top of him.

“Was he shooting at the time? Was he about to shoot? I don’t know,” Mr. Fierro said. “I just knew I had to take him down.”

The gunman, who Mr. Fierro estimated weighed more than 300 pounds, sprawled onto the floor, his military-style rifle landing just out of reach. Mr. Fierro started to go for the rifle, but then saw that the gunman had a pistol as well.

“I grabbed the gun out of his hand and just started hitting him in the head, over and over,” Mr. Fierro said.

As the fight continued, he said, he yelled for other club patrons to help him. A man grabbed the rifle and moved it away to safety. A drag dancer stomped on the gunman with her high heels. The whole time, Mr. Fierro said, he kept pummeling the shooter’s head while the two men screamed obscenities at each other.

When police arrived a few minutes later, the gunman was no longer struggling, Mr. Fierro said, and he feared that he had killed him. The suspect in the shooting was taken into custody and remained hospitalized on Monday afternoon.

Mr. Fierro said he was covered in blood when the police arrived, and officers tackled him and put him in handcuffs. He said he was held in a police car for more than an hour, and screamed and pleaded to be let go so that he could see what had happened to his family.



The GQP illlogic in action.

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Hi Obf, Laura and Wi64! Many thanks for your responses to my problem with C 99% connections. I see now that I’m not the only one with connection problems. Hope the site monitor fixes things there soon, if that’s where the issues lie. Beyond that, Laura I’m really sad that you were banned there! Hopefully they will reinstate you soon–they’re supposed to be tolerant of all different points of view. My last trip to C 99% was on Friday, when Jtc published his online life story, which could have meant “Sayonara” but I hope not. I guess we’ll find out. In the meantime I will keep up my visits to TPW, read your comments and posts and be happy for that! (In addition to eating turkey on Thursday, when I’ll be wishing all of you the same!)


Close but at least a clear lead. The nonpartisan polls were pretty accurate for the midterm election.


The poll, commissioned by the AARP, pegged Warnock at 51% and Walker at 47% — within the margin of error of 4.4 percentage points.

Conducted by the bipartisan team of Fabrizio Ward & Impact Research, it’s the first major public poll since the Nov. 8 election ended with neither rival securing the majority vote needed for an outright victory.

Alvin the beagle is back


On the surface good news BUT Warnock voters gotta show on election day!!!! We know the crazy R’s will and i call them crazy if they support Walker, He should be no where close to having the power of a Senator




There’s a morbid randomness to American gun violence – that fatal combination of scarce mental health treatment and superabundant firearms that makes America, and only America, a place where mass public massacres are common even when the nation is ostensibly at peace. But if the Colorado attack was enabled by America’s pervasive gun violence problem, it seems to have been prompted by the tenor of rightwing media, both broadcast and online, which over the past years has turned a virulent, conspiratorial and obsessively hateful eye towards the LGBT community.

In the coming days, the massacre at Club Q will be cast as an isolated tragedy, and those who point out the right’s complicity in the violence will be accused, with predictable cynicism, of politicizing the tragedy. But what happened in Colorado Springs this past weekend was the foreseeable continuation of a trend of escalating violence targeting gay spaces, and drag shows in particular.

Egged on by conservative politicians, like Lauren Boebert, social media figures, like Libs of TikTok, and traditional media scions, like Tucker Carlson, conservatives have spent the past months consuming the lie that gay and trans people are “groomers” – that is, perverts and pedophiles who want to molest children, or sterilize them, or confuse them into leading different, wrong and lesser lives. In the face of this supposed harm to the innocent, any vengeance can be justified.

The lie that gay people are “grooming” children has provided cover for violent and bigoted displays at LGBT community spaces across the country. Over the past year, drag performances and other LGBT events have been targeted with protests and violent threats in California, Idaho, Georgia, Texas, Florida, Indiana, Oregon, North Carolina and New York. Violent rightwing militia groups, like the Proud Boys and a group calling itself Patriot Front – who wear masks, because they are ashamed to show their faces – have appeared at these events, menacing gay people with threats. Just last month, in Eugene, Oregon, violence erupted outside a drag show when rightwing goons appeared and began throwing rocks and smoke bombs. At that hate rally, as at others, the anti-gay protesters carried semi-automatic rifles. It was only a matter of time before they started using them.

Like most bigots, homophobes know little about the groups they target, and their hatred doesn’t hew to logic. But when pressed, they will say that gay and trans people lack the virtues that they associate with traditional masculinity – virtues like honesty and integrity; courage, discipline and willingness to protect the innocent. But it was patrons, several of them gay themselves, who subdued the attacker at Club Q. According to the New York Times, a drag queen at the club helped by stomping on the man with her high heels

Meanwhile, in Uvalde, police officers armed to the teeth – the paragons of hegemonic masculinity that the right is always insisting we worship – stood by, cowardly and immobile, while a gunman slaughtered little children. If the right sees “manliness” as a virtue, a willingness to risk yourself to help the vulnerable, then you’d think it would be clear to them who the real “men” were.



We also know that, in recent years, the right has become increasingly fixated on all-ages drag shows, part of a growing moral panic about children being “groomed” into gender nonconformity. Club Q hosted a drag show on Saturday night and had an all-ages drag brunch scheduled for Sunday. Perhaps we’ll learn something in the coming days that will put these murders, which took place on the eve of Transgender Day of Remembrance, into a new light, but right now, it seems hard to separate them from a nationwide campaign of anti-L.G.B.T.Q. incitement.

During the early years of Donald Trump’s administration, conservatives downplayed the contempt for homosexuality and gender nonconformity that had once been central to their movement, foregrounding racial resentment instead. Opposition to gay marriage had become a political loser, and it was hard to pose as champions of wholesome family values while enthusiastically supporting a thrice-married libertine who’d made a cameo in soft-core porn. But in recent years, as growing numbers of kids started identifying as trans, the puritanical tendency on the right has come roaring back, part of an increasingly apocalyptic worldview that sees the erosion of traditional gender roles as a harbinger of national collapse.

Chris Rufo, the entrepreneurial activist who made critical race theory into a major political issue, shifted his focus to “gender ideology” in public schools. Lawmakers began to target pro-L.G.B.T.Q. teachers, and to accuse anyone who opposed them of being “groomers.” When Florida was debating legislation restricting classroom discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity, Gov. Ron DeSantis’s press secretary wrote on Twitter, “If you’re against the Anti-Grooming Bill, you are probably a groomer or at least you don’t denounce the grooming of 4-8 year old children.”

The language of “grooming” recapitulated old homophobic tropes about gay people recruiting children, while also playing into the newer delusions of QAnon, which holds that elite liberals are part of a sprawling satanic child abuse ring. Conservatives hoped to turn this conspiracy theory into political power; according to the Human Rights Campaign, Republicans and Republican-aligned groups spent at least $50 million on anti-L.G.B.T.Q. ads in the midterms.

Drag queens have been a particular obsession of those who believe that children are being lured into changing their gender or sexual orientation. “The drag queen might appear as a comic figure, but he carries an utterly serious message: the deconstruction of sex, the reconstruction of child sexuality, and the subversion of middle-class family life,” wrote Rufo in an essay about Drag Queen Story Hour, a public event series in which drag queens read to children and lead singalongs.

All over the country, Drag Queen Story Hours have been targeted by Proud Boys and other demonstrators, some heavily armed. In August, the Republican congresswoman Lauren Boebert tweeted a photo of a flier for a Drag Queen Story Hour at a Colorado public library with the words, “Sending a message to all the drag queens out there: stay away from the children in Colorado’s Third District!” The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh described drag events involving kids as a “cancer,” and wrote that “just like cancer, stopping it is not a gentle or a painless process.”

It’s been clear for some time that there are people willing to act on such ideas. Just last month, a man in a red baseball cap firebombed a Tulsa doughnut shop that had hosted a drag event. According to The Tulsa World, the vandal “left a note on a neighboring business that contained Bible verses and hateful rhetoric.”


“a drag queen at the club helped by stomping on the man with her high heels”
Those stiletto’s will leave a mark on him :)..








Musk at twitter reminds me in a way of markos and dkos when it comes to rules and moderation on a whim


I don’t miss dkos but I miss Meteor Blades!


A couple headlines

“Georgia Supreme Court Allows Early Voting on Saturday, Nov. 26 for Senate Runoff”
Another win for voters unless the R’s try the USSC next?

“Trump blasts Supreme Court over tax return ruling after a tough day in 3 other courts”

He should be blasting Moscow Mitch and the Federalist Society as that is where he got the names from. Cult-45 just passed along what they wanted and now he pissed.

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

I voted early today in Dekalb Cty but they will not hold voting tomorrow or Friday. I guess the workers are off for Thanksgiving. Each cty decides its own dates so some are not starting til Saturday or Sunday for early voting. Lines were looong. But fortunately, I qualified as a 75+ to skip the lines. Dekalb is a mostly dem cty so the long lines in a runoff vote look good for Warnock imho. And along the streets approaching (and leaving) the election headquarters there were people with Warnock signs waving at cars and people inside the cars were waving back. I felt good.


Up here in Wi everything is pretty much shutdown. A lot of people are celebrating the 2 holidays this time of year Thanksgiving and Deer hunting or what a call the human rut or a salmon returninbg to spawn. My son hunts but i stay away as way to many mix guns and alcohol.