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Thanks, jcb! Happy Turkey Day, everyone. gobble gobble.

TheLeftistheCenter

Its funny how the right talks about everyone on the left getting a gold star, but really its the right (read: neo libs and neo cons) that give each other awards so undeserving and surreal even the onion cant compete.

I cant think of one good thing that shmuck has ever done, but hes an oligarch with a data mining gold mine and no messy ethics to get in the way, he easily pushed out John Bolton and Sarah Sanders who both were just as deserving for being ethicless tools, but aren’t rich enough to be worth sucking up to.

Next Trump will get the Nobel prize in science for disproving climate change by showing immigrants are stealing all good weather from hard working Caucasian Americans so they can collapse our economy through anti oil propaganda and cash in on the lucrative disaster relief scams. Or something like that… :p

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orlbucfan

On a more positive note: I and biker obf hubby are staying home, throwing a turkey on the grill, and the spread is simple: creamy buttered mashed potatoes and steamed fresh pole beans with bacon. We may end up over in Tampa Sunday with tickets to watch the Bucs as he works with a dude who offered to get them. Either way, it will be a good weekend!!

polarbear4

Sounds like a super fun time, OBF!

polarbear4

LOBBYIST DOCUMENTS REVEAL HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BATTLE PLAN AGAINST “MEDICARE FOR ALL”

In several competitive races, the Partnership pressed candidates to use industry-crafted talking points when speaking about health care. In one internal planning document circulated with health care lobbyists, the Partnership touted its influence over Danny O’Connor, the Columbus, Ohio-area Democrat who ran for the 12th Congressional District, claiming that O’Connor used Partnership talking points “in national news interviews.” (O’Connor’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment.)

Several of the candidates who agreed to embrace the Partnership’s messaging and policy ideas, including Donnelly and O’Connor, came up short on Election Day. A recount ending on November 18 confirmed that Nelson received fewer votes than Republican challenger Rick Scott. But soon after Election Day results came in, the Partnership went on the offensive, informing reporters that candidates who embraced “Medicare for All” had also lost, pointing to the defeat of progressives such as Kara Eastman in Nebraska. The group also relied on research from the business-friendly Democratic think tank Third Way to argue that victorious pro-“Medicare for All” candidates couldn’t attribute their success to having supported “Medicare for All” because few Democrats explicitly mentioned the policy in their campaign advertisements.

The campaign has worked with advertising agencies to draw up a series of messages to convince select audiences. Several of the messages, categorized as “positive,” are dedicated to educating the public on more minimal reforms that do not include expanding Medicare. Other messages, categorized as “persuasion” and “aggressive,” are designed to instill fear about what could happen if “Medicare for All” passes.

In the coming weeks, the Partnership plans to ramp up a campaign designed to derail support for “Medicare for All.” The group, working with leading Democratic political consultants, will place issue advertisements to target audiences, partner with Beltway think tanks to release studies to raise concerns with the plan, and work to shape the public discourse through targeted advocacy in key congressional districts.

Anyone know the “line through the word” code? I would have played with the word “Democratic” in my underline. 😉

polarbear4

oh, fer Chrissakes.

The Partnership has tapped consulting firms with deep ties to Democratic officials. Forbes-Tate, a lobbying firm founded by former officials in President Bill Clinton’s administration and conservative Democrats in Congress, is managing part of the Partnership coalition. Blue Engine Message & Media, a firm founded by former campaign aides to President Barack Obama, has handled the Partnership’s interactions with the media.

orlbucfan

Insert wi60’s famous BS graphic here. 🙂 Seriously, are Americans so dumbed down and mentally obese that they don’t get it?? I know I have a BA and a double MA in grammer, literature and psycho-linguistics, but this kind of cluelessness is beyond the pale!!!!!!!

orlbucfan

All the usual suspects on here need to report in on how you are spending Turkey Day. 🙂

LieparDestin

Ive been swamped with preholiday work but have the next few days off just relaxing with JD, getting the new house a bit more together than we have it so far.

I should be putting up open threads at least friday and sat.

David

Happy Thanksgiving. We’re spending Thanksgiving in Dover, NH. My paternal grandfather’s mother was Cherokee from the Carolinas. On my mother’s side the roots go back to Elder Brewster. My middle name is Brewster. That side of the family is all from Massachusetts.

magsview

Sounds like many stories to tell in your family, thanks for sharing!

magsview

Is it too late? lol

As soon as I got home from work on Wednesday began cooking. Got super-frazzled, for many reasons, by night’s end. Got a couple of hours of sleep due to super-frazzlement then got up at 6am & resumed cooking, baking & had to blast some music for encouragement.

Left house ~1pm with cooked, stuffed, turkey & a whole lot of other stuff, drove about 45 mins to hubby’s Nonna (99yrs old) to feed the family.

It went well. Tonight, leftovers..

p.s. decided that my fave forkful is l’il bit of the following, all with gravy on them:

mashed turnip
stuffing
turkey
sauteed broccoli (Italian style)

with a little piece of cranberry jelly on top, into the mouth it goes, yummmmmmm 🙂

LieparDestin

should be [strike] but with the ><'s not ][

polarbear4

Thanks. I’ll give it a try next time.

orlbucfan

T and R, jcitybone!! HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVE to you, your family krewe and all the rest of the TPW suspects (including lurkers) on here!

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magsview

Awww, am not vegetarian yet, but that’s an adorable pic so maybe someday..

polarbear4

So much history in your neck of the woods, jcitybone. And I guess all of you near the eastern seaboard. I’m going to skip the houseless dinner this year and enjoy some downtime after a couple of months of gogogo. Thankful for the space to reflect, heal and binge! haha

Benny

You Snooze, You Lose: Insurers Make The Old Adage Literally True
Millions of sleep apnea patients rely on CPAP breathing machines to get a good night’s rest. Health insurers use a variety of tactics, including surveillance, to make patients bear the costs. Experts say it’s part of the insurance industry playbook.

Schmidt’s privacy concerns began the day after he registered his new CPAP unit with ResMed, its manufacturer. He opted out of receiving any further information. But he had barely wiped the sleep out of his eyes the next morning when a peppy email arrived in his inbox. It was ResMed, praising him for completing his first night of therapy. “Congratulations! You’ve earned yourself a badge!” the email said.

Then came this exchange with his supply company, Medigy: Schmidt had emailed the company to praise the “professional, kind, efficient and competent” technician who set up the device. A Medigy representative wrote back, thanking him, then adding that Schmidt’s machine “is doing a great job keeping your airway open.” A report detailing Schmidt’s usage was attached.

Alarmed, Schmidt complained to Medigy and learned his data was also being shared with his insurer, Blue Cross Blue Shield. He’d known his old machine had tracked his sleep because he’d taken its removable data card to his doctor. But this new invasion of privacy felt different. Was the data encrypted to protect his privacy as it was transmitted? What else were they doing with his personal information?

He filed complaints with the Better Business Bureau and the federal government to no avail. “My doctor is the ONLY one that has permission to have my data,” he wrote in one complaint.

In an email, a Blue Cross Blue Shield spokesperson said that it’s standard practice for insurers to monitor sleep apnea patients and deny payment if they aren’t using the machine. And privacy experts said that sharing the data with insurance companies is allowed under federal privacy laws. A ResMed representative said once patients have given consent, it may share the data it gathers, which is encrypted, with the patients’ doctors, insurers and supply companies.

Schmidt returned the new CPAP machine and went back to a model that allowed him to use a removable data card. His doctor can verify his compliance, he said.

Luke Petty, the operations manager for Medigy, said a lot of CPAP users direct their ire at companies like his. The complaints online number in the thousands. But insurance companies set the prices and make the rules, he said, and suppliers follow them, so they can get paid.

Data Analytics in its finest. It’s appalling.

magsview

Very!

I read something about a couple of days ago, appalling!!! Some insurance companies using CPAP info against patients. Wow, awful!

wi60

Well Mrs 60 has started her cooking and I learned enough to stay out of the kitchen unless asked to help with something. I generally do the clean up as she’s usually tired after doing all the cooking as its a lot of work but worth it. My kids will be home + a couple family members will be here as well so a full day of great food, family, football. Since my Wife’s side is mostly R no matter what so on this day Politics is a no fly zone– House rule :). Family is more important. TG is my favorite holiday to celebrate as Christmas is way over hyped as stores trample on TG and have the music and ads out non stop. Then seeing idiots fight over TV’s and other crap is disgusting. If you had any doubt mass subliminal marketing has worked very well for this upcoming mass hysteria event on Friday, the corporations should be happy though. I worked in retail Mgt for a while and people are nuts its like slinging chum for sharks when the doors opened. I cant imagine what these same people would do if their was a sever food shortage.
I enjoyed Christmas more when my kids were really young and watching them open gifts. I do look forward to our Christmas celebration with family though but not the same when your kids are young. Happy Thanksgiving to all

polarbear4

Awwww, sounds warm and comforting. Holiday football is always a treat, too.

LieparDestin

magsview

That’s awful! Those are practically pristine waters, or were at least, and many people in Newfoundland rely on fishing for their income.

LieparDestin

polarbear4

Strengthens both.

TheLeftistheCenter

I do thanksgiving with my Mom as I do every year and we generally have duck or goose, since turkeys are too big for two, as previous years with a weeks worth of leftovers each has taught us “thanksgiving day six: leftover turkey again with no end in sight, contemplating going vegan but would still have 3 more days of sides anyway so all hope is lost” 😛

Benny

The Bennys will have a smallish brunch at home, then watch some Cowboys football, then out to dinner (there’s only 2 of us and the pets). Will pop out our “Planes Trains & Automobiles” DVD to watch tomorrow night. The movie is a traditional thing with us.

I am thankful for 3 things:

That I don’t have to rake leaves this year. We moved to a newer place in which we don’t have trees in the yard and anyone who has a tree has a baby one. Last year, we put out 70 bags for yard waste pickup the first week in December.

That Jasper, my cat, and who has some kind of lymphoma, is still eating and with us. He lost over 3 lbs in the past 14 months. He looks like he hasn’t been fed in a month. He can’t climb, but he still has a sense of humor when I flash a cat toy to tease him.

That I have this blog, even when there are days I don’t comment or post. It’s welcoming and I enjoy the slices that everyone has to offer.

Happy T-giving everyone, and for those going on the road, safe travels.

polarbear4

Hugs, esp. Jasper. {{{{❤️}}}}

polarbear4

I lost the article and can’t find it An op piece detailing how Trump has laid bare, reveled in, and doubled down on making a vicious cruelty the American way—in detail. Closing para below. Might be Todd Gitlin.

The American public needs a new understanding of how civic institutions collapse under the force of state violence, how language coarsens in the service of carnage, how a culture hardens in a market society so as to foster contempt for compassion while exalting in a culture of cruelty. How does neoliberal capitalism work to spread the celebration of violence through its commanding cultural apparatuses and social media? How does war culture come to dominate civic life so as to become the most honored ideal in American society? Unless Americans can begin to address these issues as part of a broader discourse committed to resisting the existent authoritarianism in America, the plague of mass violence will continue and the promise of a radical democracy will become nothing more than a relic of history.

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Hillary Clinton's longstanding, steadfast support for destabilizing military interventions in the Middle East is directly connected to the migrant crisis, and any journalist who questions her on the issue without bringing up this central aspect is absolutely derelict

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) November 22, 2018

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polarbear4

She actually said this

“The whole American system was designed so that you would eliminate the threat from a strong, authoritarian king or other leader and maybe people are just tired of it. They don’t want that much responsibility and freedom. They want to be told what to do and where to go and how to live … and only given one version of reality.”

magsview

Incredible.

Don midwest
Don midwest

I will be gone for 2 weeks. Ecuador. Amazon couple of days. Galapagos for several days.

orlbucfan

You lucky dog! Green with envy here. You stay and be safe!

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