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Not sure if this was previously posted if it was it is worth repeating.


The Sanders Institute, the Vermont-based think tank formed by Sen. Bernie Sanders’ wife, Jane, in 2017, has quietly lined up progressive activists from across the country for a three-day gathering next week in Burlington, assembling a speaker lineup billed as “thought leaders from across the country and around the world.”

Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont, is expected to speak at the event’s opening but will not make any announcement about his plans for a potential 2020 campaign, sources familiar with the events said.

Listed speakers include New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), Our Revolution President Nina Turner, intellectual and activist Cornel West, “The Young Turks” founder Cenk Uygur, environmentalist Bill McKibben, writer and activist Naomi Klein, and Carmen Yulín Cruz, the mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico.


I have not noticed much coverage in the MSM. Afterall it involves progressives.


RoseAnn DeMoro, former executive director of National Nurses United, the powerful union that supported Sanders in his unsuccessful 2016 presidential run, is listed as a speaker. So is Peter Knowlton, national president of the United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America, whose union also endorsed Sanders against Hillary Clinton.

The actors John Cusack and Danny Glover are also expected to speak.

The event coincides with the release of Sanders’ new book, “Where We Go from Here: Two Years in the Resistance,” and follows a furious spate of campaigning by Sanders ahead of the midterm elections. Sanders, a favorite of progressives, has polled well ahead of the 2020 election, trailing only former Vice President Joe Biden in a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll of Democratic voters released last week.


Man, Jane is gathering one solid blue ribbon krewe! 🙂


But I want DeBlasio to explain the Amazon Black Friday deals.


Talk about being clueless. Why doesn’t she go back into the woods?


Former US presidential candidate says leaders must show they can no longer ‘provide refuge and support.

Europe needs a tougher approach on immigration in order to curb the growing threat of right-wing populists, Hillary Clinton said, calling on EU leaders to show their electorates that they can no longer “provide refuge and support.”

“I think Europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame,” Clinton said in an interview with the Guardian published Thursday.

How unenlightened she is when in fact she supported the war in Iraq, the Libyan fiasco, the war in Yemen. and a no fly zone in Syria.

These policies are the root cause of the refugee migration.


Unbelievable. She and her buddies from Italy and the UK are clueless as to all the harm they’ve done with their wars, their austerity, their neoliberal elitism. Not only are refugees from their wars NOT to blame, neither are we, but that doesn’t stop her from saying that it’s Americans, too.

“The whole American system was designed so that you would eliminate the threat from a strong, authoritarian king or other leader and maybe people are just tired of it. They don’t want that much responsibility and freedom. They want to be told what to do and where to go and how to live … and only given one version of reality.”





LOL Is it really that far from the truth?


Fox News’ Rick Leventhal issued an on-air apology Thursday after a guest likened Hillary Clinton to “herpes.”

“She won’t go away. She’s like herpes,” said Anna Paulina, director of Hispanic engagement for right-wing organization Turning Points USA.

Paulina’s comment came during a panel discussion on President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani’s call for another probe into Clinton’s use of a private email server during her time as secretary of state.

underlining by me.


Hillary has unintentionally united the country, be it left, right or center, we can all come together in unanimous agreement in wishing she would just go away.


Except for the Hillbots. Still running around defending her. 😉


These images from the primary occasionally come in handy.
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What could go wrong? It would not surprise me if Trump endorsed this.



Amazon is exploiting its workers everywhere not just here.


Be very very afraid of the horde of those brown people!


Donald Trump has made a Thanksgiving Day threat to close the US border with Mexico and says troops can use lethal force against migrants “if they have to”.

The US president said he had given the thousands of active duty troops he sent to the border the “OK” to use lethal force against migrants if Mexico “lost control” on their side.

Thousands of migrants have been fleeing Central America to get to the border, and the president sent almost 6,000 troops there earlier this month.

Mr Trump, who did not say how long the border would be closed, also hinted at the possibility of a partial government shutdown early in December over the refusal by courts to allocate the billions of dollars he is demanding for a border wall – a central plank of his presidential campaign in 2016.

He said: “Could there be a shutdown? There certainly could, and it will be about border security, of which the wall is a part.”


Nothing like a dumbazz as POTUS. UGH!


This is who really controls the Democratic party.


oh, if only we had a mole in there. Too bad Soros is throwing in with that crowd.

Pramily Jayapal is speaking, though. Will they kick her out, or can she stay and get the dirt?


Trump thanks…who?

As is customary, the US president put in a Thanksgiving phone call to troops deployed overseas on Thursday. But unlike other presidents, Donald Trump soon turned the conversation to himself. “I made a tremendous difference in this country,” he said. “Nobody’s done more for the military than me.”


Anyone know how to set preferences so “newest” comments on top is the default?


We’ve settled on a shallow conception of democracy. And that’s dangerous

Since the industrial revolution, we have had to reckon with the growth of private power – once in the form of the trust or cartel, now in the form of the giant corporation, the monopoly and the multinational. The might and wealth of these entities can exceed even those of governments. In the United States especially, they have also claimed many of the political rights of citizens for themselves: rights of free speech, to spend money to influence politics, and to the free exercise of corporate religion – nearly everything except, so far, the right to vote.

For most people in industrialized countries today, our sense of autonomy and security is equally, if not more, influenced by private forces and economic structures than by government. The conditions of work – from the size of one’s wages and the length of one’s hours, to threats of being fired, harassed or mistreated by bosses, to even personal safety – now largely determine how much of our lives are really lived.

Outside of work, our daily lives are also shaped profoundly by economic matters such as rent, access to transportation or groceries, and health insurance, even more so than by any abstract freedoms. That is why real freedom must be understood as freedom from both public and private coercion – a point that has been utterly forgotten by so-called libertarians, conservatives and even most neoliberals.

This leads to a crucial further insight: that “bigness” – the domination of the economy and politics by giant firms – is a curse.

As Brandeis understood, true freedom implies a distrust of both big business and big government. The unifying principle is this: concentrated power in any form can be dangerous; institutions should be built to human scale, and we need, above all, to pursue human ends.


pb4, you’re on fire today. Word!


Thanks, OBF! Nice to see you posting, too.


How the world’s first solid-state aircraft used ‘ionic wind’ to fly

Could be an environmental breakthrough. Look ma, no moving parts, i’m just rising in the air.

Sort of sci-fi, eh? And no nuclear power needed.


November 21, 2018 at 10:44 pm

If you live in a state that didn’t expand Medicaid to cover ACA premiums and your income is below a certain threshold, you don’t quality for ACA coverage. Can you get charity care from your local integrated service provider? Depends on the provider.

I didn’t qualify, but my local community health center covered me. Who fought for funding for community health centers? In other words, who fought to get services to me today? Not someday, not in the future, but today? Sanders.

Who didn’t get a pipe bomb in the mail during midterms? Sanders.
This is an actual comment from NC. I bolded the final paragraph. Needless to say, it blew me out of the water. Talk about true!


I’ll bet that Trump calls this Fake News.


A new climate report from the federal government released Friday warns that current global and regional efforts to stave off the devastating effects of climate change are insufficient.

The report, the first of its kind released under the Trump administration, finds that climate change is expected to interrupt the way people live day-to-day as it ravages infrastructure, impacts human health, poses challenges to the global economy and threatens the world’s energy supply.

The Global Change Research Act of 1990 mandates that the federal government release a report about global warming and climate change every four years. This report, the Fourth National Climate Assessment (NCA4), is the latest fulfillment of that mandate. It is the counterpart to the Climate Science Special Report, which was released last year.

The damning report, which analyzes the effects of climate change by U.S. region, comes as President Trump has continued to cast doubt on the scientific consensus that global warming and climate change are caused by human activity. Trump on Wednesday seemed to scoff at the idea of global warming.


The MSM needs to get real. As weather systems change, you will have areas of increasing cold, as well, from what I understand.



The Founder of Panera Bread Explains the Economic Forces that Led to Trump

He believes that the fixation on short-term profits is jeopardizing the future of American business, and creating social instability that has contributed to our current state of political polarization.

In the midterm elections, Democrats won at least thirty-eight additional seats in the House of Representatives (as of Wednesday), gaining a majority, but Republicans performed better than many people expected; high-school-educated voters came out, once again, strongly in favor of the party of Trump. According to Shaich, the resentment that these voters feel is a direct result of the quick-profits-over-all ethos that dominates economic thinking. “When we live in a world where we view value creation as the end, and not as a by-product, which is what short-term thinking lends itself to, we end up doing great damage to every other constituency, and that’s what ultimately drives back to the kind of ‘let’s rip down the establishment’ nihilism that in my view is at the core of Trumpism,” he said. “Trump is, ‘Hey, this isn’t serving me. I’ve been sitting here in Michigan and Wisconsin and Ohio, I thought I’d have a middle-class life if I went to work, and my kids can’t pay their student debt. I lost my manufacturing job and I’m making twelve dollars an hour in a service job. And these guys are closing every plant and squeezing every nickel out of the thing, and Wall Street gets rich. And I’m still living a tough life.’ ” He added, “Trump is a human hand grenade to blow up a society that isn’t working for big swatches of America.”

He added, “This system doesn’t serve the American people. There is an opportunity to ask ourselves, is this what we want?”


That greedball mindset has been a curse on humanity throughout the centuries. I don’t know how to destroy it. I won’t be around much longer anyway cos I’m old.


I fully agree here and believe the real root of our global problems is the immortal, immoral, quarterly profit fixated corporations. We have created these huge entities that can rival whole governments in financial influence that serve no purpose but to make increasing profits and are unrestrained by mortality, conscious and often even responsibility.

Their very nature, which might have served some positive purpose in the age of industrialization to bring nations into the modern era, have become voracious monsters eating increasingly larger chunks on an ever shrinking planet. The real transition is from where they would continuously look for new markets to expand spreading industrialization as they went, into the current era where its all about chipping away at overhead to increase profits without adding much of anything to the system.

The average company in 1950 was adding jobs, infrastructure and modernization as a means of growth to then increase profits, now they cut jobs and pay and milk what they can from old infrastructure to increase profits, its that paradigm shift due to globalization that has made them a destructive force. Its not an oil companies job to worry about climate change or a chip makers to worry about rare metal mining contamination, its just against their purpose of existence with the very idea that an oil company should say ‘sorry we cant make any money this year because we dont want to increase global warming through oil extraction” just sounds absurd to even those of us that would want it that way.

We have created monsters that we know are monsters and expect nothing less than for them to act like monsters, all the while wishing they wouldn’t. The nature of the beast is to generate profit and there is no way to change their nature, our only choice is to kill the beast.

Big lie: Government gets in the way of good business.
Big truth: Business gets in the way of good government.


Judge rules that New York AG lawsuit related to Trump Foundation may proceed. https://t.co/XQUlA4zg6G

— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) November 23, 2018



Corporate PACs are literally suggesting there needs to be *more* money in politics. That is outrageous.

This is a must-read from @danielmarans and @PaulBlu on how corporate PACs are fighting to stay relevant on Capitol Hill: https://t.co/iQILaBXkS9

— End Citizens United (@StopBigMoney) November 23, 2018



Wars, agribusiness, privatization. As if these aren’t enough.

Climate change, a crisis created by the developed world, is going to force poor people across the globe to move in order to survive. The approach Clinton is advocating will be a death sentence for millions and millions of people, and we should be clear about that.

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) November 22, 2018



JUST IN: The U.S. National Climate Assessment is now public.

This is the report that the Trump Administration doesn’t want you to see. Years in the making, released on the day after Thanksgiving. #ClimateFriday

Here are some of the main highlights:https://t.co/fTqVopBccR

— Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) November 23, 2018



Voting machine vendor ES&S has “donated more than $30k to the Republican State Leadership Council since 2013” & “admitted earlier this year that it has installed remote access software in election management systems in 300 jurisdictions…” @NYRDailyhttps://t.co/7gKTM8cJr7

— Jennifer Cohn (@jennycohn1) November 23, 2018



Every time I think I am done for the evening….

Should we take seriously media outlets that take this person seriously? https://t.co/ywikIZ7m37

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) November 23, 2018


We’ll shoot. What he’s talking about is a tweet from Bill Cristol saying we should do regime change in China.


An excellent article by Matt Taibbi concerning Julian Assange.

Why You Should Care About the Julian Assange Case

It is difficult to quote small portions of the article but it is worth a read.


MSM On your mark. Get set. Go! The latest narrative.

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