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Asheville NC just had our rally. I’d guess a couple hundred were there.

Yesterday at an organizational meeting for our local OurRevolution, we filled a gym with 200 people.


Thanks for posting Bernie’s speech, I got up too late to watch it live (live in CA and retired so get to sleep in). I was amazed at the size of the crowd and how they were there mostly to see Bernie. Maybe Chuck Schumer will get the message that Bernie can get a crowd and has millions of followers, therefore, he needs to listen to his ideas if the Democratic party wants to make a comeback.


I have a sneaking suspicion that millions of American’s R&D are going to learn the hard way that they backed the wrong candidate once they get hurt by the new Govt that starts in a week or so. I find it amazing that Bernie is still drawing good sized crowds right after an presidential election doesn’t seem normal to me. A shout out to NNU -their amazing and of course Bernie care for all’


Great open thread @magsview. Its so encouraging to see all the support and attendance.

I notice we don’t have a Science Sunday post today, so I hope you don’t mind if I post this here…I don’t want to be threadjacking.

From Kids Saving the Rainforest….if 2 little kids can make a difference in saving the Costa Rica Rainforest and its animals, than we should be able to do the same with our healthcare system…just a thought.


let’s see if I can get the vid to embed

…if not it can be viewed here:


It certainly isn’t very Presidential

But Trump has a way of making a point and getting the media’s attention.


President-elect Donald Trump tweeted Sunday night about outgoing CIA Director John Brennan, questioning if he’s the “leaker of Fake News?”

Trump’s first tweet quoted a Fox News headline that read, “CIA’s Brennan warns Trump, says he doesn’t ‘fully understand’ Russia threat” and added commentary of his own.

“Oh really, couldn’t do … much worse – just look at Syria (red line), Crimea, Ukraine and the build-up of Russian nukes. Not good! Was this the leaker of Fake News?


In another example of his comments causing a stir. His comments to a British and German newspapers ruffled a few feathers.


NATO is “obsolete”, Germany’s Angela Merkel made a “catastrophic mistake” on refugees, Brexit will be “great” and the US could cut a deal with Russia: Donald Trump unleashed a volley of broadsides in interviews with European media.

Five days before his inauguration as the 45th President of the United States, the billionaire populist let loose a torrent of controversial comments about European allies in interviews with British newspaper The Times and Germany’s Bild.

“Let’s see if we can make some good deals with Russia,” Trump said in remarks carried by The Times.

The US president-elect suggested a deal in which nuclear arsenals would be reduced and sanctions against Moscow would be eased, but gave no details.

I could imagine war mongers like John McCain mumbling to himself after learning about this.


Bernie addressed the NATO issue during one of the primary debates:
from a report by RT:
” European countries like Germany, the UK and France should pick up more of the burden for their defense in NATO, Sen. Bernie Sanders said during the Democratic debate in Brooklyn, adding that the US alone spends “about 75% of the entire cost of the military aspect of NATO.”

Sanders, 74 and Hillary Clinton, 68, held their ninth presidential debate in Brooklyn, and the US senator from Vermont asked to react to a statement he made in 1997 when he said that the US should stop “wasting tens of billions of dollars helping to defend Europe.”

“If my memory is correct here, we spend about 75 percent of the entire cost of the military aspect of NATO,” Sanders said. “Given the fact that France has a very good health care system and free public education, college education for their people, the UK has a good National Health Service and they also provide fairly reasonable higher education, you know what, yeah, I do believe that the countries of Europe should pick up more of the burden for their defense,” he stated, noting that “with a huge deficit, with 47 million people living in poverty, with our inner cities collapsing, yeah, I do think countries like Germany and UK and France and European countries whose economy, or at least its standard of living and health care and education, they’re doing pretty well.”

America’s longest-serving independent politician in history added: “I would not be embarrassed as president of the United States to say to our European allies, you know what, the United States of America cannot just support your economies. You got to put up your own fair share of the defense burden.”
The issue of US covering much of NATO expenses has been a point of tension for decades.”

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