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wi65

JS online poll was similar but the majority of those polled leaned R, FWIW this early.

Paul ADK

That’s wonderful, but I’m afraid polls just aren’t getting at the potential electorate anymore. They don’t know how to. Who talks to pollsters? I’ll tell you– right wing loons and old people. Yikes, I’m older myself, but I use a cell phone only, and do not pick up for anyone I don’t know. I barely pick up for those I do know, even at my advanced age (62, I know, I’m really just a baby. Probably why I still feel like a kid, most days) my friends all text me. It’s so much easier.

If anyone is running a more representational poll, it’s because they know that we’re on to them, and because we know that polls are lies. There’s going to be a flood of young voters in 2024, and it’s a fairly safe prediction that they won’t be voting for any more fascists.

If this poll shows anything, it shows that third party candidates hurt Trump more than Biden, even among mostly Republican voters. Although I suspect that in reality the spread will be far greater than that. WI just overturned its fascist supreme court. And that was in an off year.

polarbear4
polarbear4

just wanted to let you know that i wrote the rfk team and they replied:

Gen,

There are many within our campaign who share your concerns and there’s been a lot of discussion about these issues. During a recent volunteer meeting, Mr. Kennedy’s Policy Director Charles Eisenstein spoke on the subject. He reported that Mr. Kennedy is studying the issue in great depth. Charles is hopeful some action will soon be taken. We hope Mr. Kennedy will release a statement soon which aligns with your views.

All the best,
Team Kennedy

and wrote “Tears in my eyes…”

orlbucfan

pb4, this will be off topic, but I have two identical NWF calendars pinned on the wall near my desk. Guess what is pictured for December 2023? A great photo of two playing polar bears!! 🙂 As far as RFK, Jr. goes, I really wish he would run on his environmental record. I am glad to see you and LD posting! I know I’m not voting for Byedone. I’m watching to see how the primaries shake out.

Benny

Methinks Naomi Klein has RFK Jr pegged pretty well in her Guardian piece back in June:

Given the undeniable strengths that Kennedy possesses as a candidate, we should expect him to continue to build momentum, and continue to find new audiences. Ignoring him is not an option. What is needed instead is a serious engagement with the myths that underlie the Kennedy performance and that are key to his progressive appeal.

Myth #1: He would be a climate champion.

Because RFK Jr is so eloquent about pollution, many assume he would support policies that would tame the raging climate crisis. While that may have been true in the past, the facts have radically changed. In recent interviews, he claims climate science is too complex and abstract to explain and that, “I can’t independently verify that.” He also says that the climate crisis is being used to push through “totalitarian controls on society” orchestrated “by the World Economic Forum, Bill Gates, and all of these megabillionaires” – a green-tinged reboot of the same, all-too familiar conspiracy theories he rode to pandemic stardom, when he opposed virtually every Covid public health measure, from masks to vaccines to closures. Now he is marshaling the same arguments against climate action.

He told Breaking Points: “In my campaign I’m not going to be talking a lot about climate. Why is that? Because climate has become a crisis like Covid that the Davos groups and other totalitarian elements in our society have used as a pretext for clamping down totalitarian controls.”

This about-face has earned him friends among the most prominent and dangerous climate-change deniers, including the Republican-aide-turned-disinformation-dealer Marc Morano, who says Kennedy is “undergoing a genuine transformation over his views on the climate agenda.” In podcast interviews, especially with rightwing hosts, RFK Jr now says he would leave energy policy to the market and describes himself as “a radical free marketeer.” It should go without saying that the markets are incapable of decarbonizing our economies in anything like the narrow slice of time left.

What it sounds like is we want more of a parliamentary system without a monarchy but oligarchs control the levers, thus the Republic or parliamentary system is NOT the cure to our ills.

orlbucfan

Crap. That’s full scale wish washy about-face.

Benny

Could you be a little more specific? I’m not sure what you are criticizing? Is Klein mistaken? Or you disagreeing with my comment?

orlbucfan

“He told Breaking Points: “In my campaign I’m not going to be talking a lot about climate. Why is that? Because climate has become a crisis like Covid that the Davos groups and other totalitarian elements in our society have used as a pretext for clamping down totalitarian controls.””
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He’s now comparing battling climate crisis to his Covid stance. Nope, his younger/earlier self wouldn’t do that.

Paul ADK

It doesn’t take a lot of sense to know that when it rains, we get wet. And rains and rains and rains and rains and rains and rains.

To say nothing of the forest fires, etc.

wi65

Good to hear from you PB

Benny

orlbucfan

T and R x 4, and thanks, jcb!! 🙂 You getting slammed by bad winter weather up your way?

Benny

From The Lever, a newsletter roundup on cleaner energy

Good things are happening! Clean-energy manufacturing projects are headed to former coal towns, California farmworkers score their first labor win under a landmark new law, New York will automatically seal old criminal convictions, regulators plan a major crackdown on bank overdraft fees, and workers across the country stage actions during the year’s biggest shopping weekend.

From Coal To Wind Turbines
Millions in federal funding are going to former mining towns and other communities once reliant on manufacturing and fossil fuels to pay for new clean-energy manufacturing projects, in an effort to bring new renewable jobs to the United States’ industrial heartland.

The U.S. Department of Energy announced this week that it was awarding $275 million to seven different manufacturing projects, funding that comes from President Joe Biden’s 2021 trillion-dollar infrastructure deal. In Louisville, Colorado, and Vandergrift, Pennsylvania, two former coal towns, old factories will be used by a window supplier to manufacture insulated glass that helps make buildings energy efficient. In Pittsburgh, a magnetics company will build a new factory to produce components for electric vehicles and other electric infrastructure.

The funding will also bring a wind turbine producer to Vernon, Texas, a former mining town; a metal manufacturer to Weirton, West Virginia; a battery electrode manufacturer to Bridgeport, Connecticut; and a glass manufacturer to Detroit.

Such projects are expected to bring new jobs to their chosen communities, some of which have been hollowed out by the nationwide decline in mining jobs. In West Virginia, for instance, manufacturing company Boston Metal expects that the project will create more than 200 jobs, its CEO told the New York Times. In Pittsburgh, magnetics company CorePower will employ between 25 and 50 workers.

The initiative, proponents hope, will prioritize workers at risk of being left behind by the transition away from coal and other fossil fuels — giving them jobs while also supporting clean-energy manufacturing in the U.S. While the U.S. has lagged behind globally in this industry, investments by the Biden administration, in particular courtesy of the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act, have spurred new clean-energy production across the country. With this new funding, mining towns will now reap some of those benefits.

California Farmworkers Use New Law To Unionize

Hundreds of workers at a tomato farm in California’s Central Valley are now unionized — the first farmworkers to organize under a new law that came into effect this year that makes it easier for agricultural workers across the state to join a union.

orlbucfan

I have 3 major issues: tackling world wide climate change crisis, universal healthcare, and repairing our wrecked public education system. That is what I’m basing all my votes and activism on. ✊

Benny

Bibi is not interested in peace until he can get all of the land annexed.

wi65

That is his goal, long term plenty of sea side properties to be developed. Might take longer than he thinks though.

orlbucfan

Yep, and the more dead Arabs, the better. Yaboob really needs to be kicked out of office, and put in jail where he belongs.

wi65

Arrange for interpol to put the boob and the cult in the same cell-that would be fun

Benny

I’d rather they be isolated. Not solitary confinement, but isolated from each other. We don’t need more axis of dictatorship in the world plotting from the Hague.

Benny

This could mean a number of things.

1) Folks see a recession coming and are stashing under their mattresses
2) The markup on retail is still too high
3) Maybe some folks don’t like the new stuff
4) Less hours and more going to online

Benny

orlbucfan

👏👏✊