12/5 News Roundup & Open Thread
Striking her mark at the COP24 climate talks taking place this week and next in Poland, fifteen-year-old Greta Thunberg of Sweden issued a stern rebuke on behalf of the world’s youth climate movement to the adult diplomats, executives, and elected leaders gathered by telling them she was not there asking for help or demanding they comply with demands but to let them know that new political realities and a renewable energy transformation are coming whether they like it or not.
“Since our leaders are behaving like children, we will have to take the responsibility they should have taken long ago,” said Thunberg, who has garnered international notoriety for weekly climate strikes outside her school in Sweden, during a speech on Monday.
Thunberg said that she was not asking anything of the gathered leaders—even as she sat next to UN Secretary General António Guterres—but only asking the people of the world “to realize that our political leaders have failed us, because we are facing an existential threat and there’s no time to continue down this road of madness.”
Thunberg explained that while the world consumes an estimated 100 million barrels of oil each day, “there are no politics to change that. There are no politics to keep that oil in the ground. So we can longer save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.”
“So we have not come here to beg the world leaders to care for our future,” she declared. “They have ignored us in the past and they will ignore us again. We have come here to let them know that change is coming whether they like it or not. The people will rise to the challenge.”
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Scott Walker and Wisconsin GOP Claim Protests Overblown, But Just Read the Full Details of Their Plan to Dismantle Democracy
State Republicans Are Refusing to Honor the Peaceful Transition of Power
Until the FRightwingnuts get slapped upside the head/put in real prisons where a lot of them belong, these power grabs will continue. They have gotten away with all sorts of illegalities/spitting in the face of the voters for. decades. So, why change? T and R to the usual excellent TPW suspects!!
I have a problem with the pearl-clutching tone of this article. For example, statements like “the erratic presidency of Donald Trump and the sycophantic deference of congressional Republicans to him have fostered legitimate concern about the abandonment of constitutional principles and the maintenance of the rule of law” – they don’t care about constitutional principles or the rule of law.
I say the proper response is to ignore whatever laws these lame-duck losers pass – this is an illegitimate exercise of power by hired thugs who no longer represent the will of the people. Make them have to hustle and protest for a change.
Bernie Sanders’ call for a ‘war against climate change’ sounds presidential
Iceland’s Prime Minister Joins Bernie Sanders’ Progressive International
The more leaders joining the better it is. Has anyone heard if Corbyn has joined?
Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Are Pushing a Bold New Plan to Tackle Climate Change
That’s awesome! I hope they do that more than once. And that the other stations join in.
The regular viewers of Fox will think that this is ‘fake news” sadly.
‘We Are All Here Together’: Demanding Charter Network Use Vast Resources for Better Pay, First of Its Kind Teacher Strike in Chicago
‘We’re One Union’: Why Chicago Teachers Are Out On the First Charter School Strike in the Country
The Harsh and Unjust Punishment of Marc Lamont Hill
Egads, how gutless is Temple University?
I think that it may be at least as much about rich donors and their money, but gutless too!
These Utah Activists Are Determined to Stop Trump From Stealing Our Public Lands
Lost lands? The American wilderness at risk in the Trump era
Congress Takes a Critical Step Toward Reasserting Its War-Powers Control
It will be interesting to see if this passes the house, and then what will happen.
It strikes me as absurd that the president has the power to veto a resolution under the War Powers act, designed to curtail the president’s own power.
George H.W. Bush, Icon of the WASP Establishment—and of Brutal US Repression in the Third World
Criminal justice reform splits 2020 Democrats
It’s hard to assess the merit of what people are saying here without knowing what’s actually in the bill…
Electoral fraud claims roil North Carolina House race
Sanders Is Building a New Political Movement and Could Run Again
Panama Papers investigation: four men criminally charged in US
Meanwhile their clients sip chardonnay on Broadway.
‘We’re sounding the alarm’: half of Canada’s chinook salmon endangered
Pipeline wars: Front line in the fight against climate change
How Indigenous Youth Are Healing Together
Why This Republican Mayor Spoke at Bernie Sanders’s Climate Town Hall
He is even getting attention on a progressive blog.
https://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Ocasio-Cortez-has-got-the-GOP-rattled-13442980.php
That’s hilarious!
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/campaigns/article222459440.html#storylink=cpy
Riight…it was the analysts who made the Democrats win in November, not an actual desire for progressive policies. Anything but that.
There likely would have been more victories if the DCCC hadn’t conspired against the more progressive candidates during the primaries.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/05/trump-america-grassroots-radical-democrats-republicans
I’m watching some of the coverage of the HW Bush funeral on C-SPAN, and it’s very interesting to see the differences in POTUSes Trump, Obama, Clinton, and Carter. Obama, Clinton, and Carter appear very relaxed, whereas Drumpf does not; he looks out of place. Mrs. Drumpf exchanged pleasantries with the Obamas and Bill Clinton, whereas the baroness just nodded her head in acknowledgement.
The baroness is also not engaging with anyone.
Not that these actually compare because of their situations, but still a point to be made:
And Wisconsin and….
And this guy who is challenging Maine’s voters’ will for ranked choice:
Yuge! And go Greta!
Unfortunately having read the article it seems to be just a feel good statement. The technology to do this does not exist.. A noble idea but …..
I believe I read that their pledge was to do it by 2050? I hope we have that long.
https://theintercept.com/2018/12/04/israel-anti-boycott-act-lame-duck/
Still hoping to punish BDS supporters by slipping it into spending bill.
And whose name is on it? Ben Cardin, Democrat. Shameful.
“I am fully aware that the Supreme Court has declared that “money is speech.” That’s nonsense. The day my wallet starts talking to me, I might reconsider that view. Until then, I believe that the pernicious influence of money on our elections must be removed.”
John Dingell
And abolish the Senate. +
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/john-dingell-how-restore-faith-government/577222/
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/george-bush-president-trump-iraq-war-katrina-torture
As if the paeans to the father weren’t bad enough, we have fools now lionizing the son?
Good that the sellouts among us are identifying themselves, I guess…
2Qs:
How are the moves in Wisconsin and elsewhere even legal? (Rhetorical)
And how many more Dems do we have to elect before we can undo these laws?
(Mostly rhetorical)
In WI the state senate currently stands at 18 – 15 in favor of the R’s, The Assembly is 57-26 in favor of R’s. With the extreme gerrymandering it will be 2020 for Evers to approve redistricting because of the census. The R’s will certainly send him more half assed redraws but he will veto it using the line item veto power he has as GOV. Thus having the redraw done by and independent commission. If this plays out it should give the Dems a good chance to take back the Senate in 2022.(After today could be 2020 people are pissed) The Assembly would be a lot tougher as that’s a lot of rural area’s that are R but with the redraw and some major R donors and voters being pissed about this lame duck session so who knows. Besides the forthcoming lawsuits and hopefully injunctions to stop this R lust for power and overruling the will of voter. Evers does have a very powerline item veto pen. I haven’t looked into it much but I wonder if Evers can hold off on signing the Budget until some of the overplay by the R’s is taken out of the next budget? Due to the Senate make up the R’s don’t have the 2/3rds vote of both chambers to over rule a Evers veto. Its gonna get interesting in WI for 2020 as the Ads just wrote themselves for 2020 for the D’s t.o use against the R’s. But for now the litigation will begin next year
You certainly are living in exciting times! ?
As I was growing up Wi used to be known for clean and not a lot of controversy in our politics, Since Walker arrived on the scene the slime and villainy are second to none to D.C. and Chicago. Courtesy of the R’s whom really are in a fascist mode to hold on power no matter the damage to our Democracy.
I wouldn’t say exciting times with the result of what happened today I would say very dangerous times when the will of the voter due to the results of an election is suppressed. What next Vos and Fitzgerald? You can only vote if your and R as you’ve already gerrymanderd the maps to keep R’s in power regardless of the vote senate and assembly wise.
Adding: Evers
Evers called the bills “a hot mess” in a Wednesday afternoon news conference and said they set “a dangerous precedent.”
Asked if he’d have any recourse if the bills become law, Evers said “everything’on the table, from litigation to other actions.”
He also released a statement slamming what happened overnight.
“Wisconsin has never seen anything like this,” he said. “Power-hungry politicians rushed through sweeping changes to our laws to expand their own power and override the will of the people of Wisconsin who asked for change on Nov. 6.”
Cost estimates of the bills passed Wednesday remain unclear. Legislative Fiscal Bureau director Bob Lang said his staff is working to put together a memo for release sometime this week. Estimate’s are an additional 7 million for taxpayers to pony up for elections!!!! And the R’s claim thier fiscally responsible. Bold me
Good things arrive to those who wait
Looking more and more like Beto equals Obama and or Clinton.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/12/what-does-beto-orourke-actually-stand-for
Interesting interview with Sema Hernandez, the Berniecrat who ran against Beto in the primary and was ignored by the party and, apparently, by Justice Democrats.
You know, I am NOT enthusiastic about Beto for president, I do not think he’s qualified and he is too centrist for me, but I WAS for real enthusiastic about him for Senator and Sema Hernandez was not a good possibility here in Texas. Beto really campaigned in all areas, talked to people, and did not use stupid campaign consultants or take big money. Lots of props to him for that. Hernandez could NEVER have done what he did or had the down-ballot effect that is going to benefit the state a great deal. It was great and I am very grateful to him for running and sad he didn’t win. So I thought the article in Current Affairs was off-base.
It’s mostly right on his actual policies, though. Have zero interest in him for president. Sanders or Warren.
But you can not like him for president and not like the neoliberals reaching for their idea of “another Obama” (which we do NOT need) and still give him some credit on what he did do, on his courage in speaking out in Texas very genuinely on some not-popular things like Kaepernick, and so forth. Balance!
The neoliberals are excited cuz they kind of think he did well cuz of some magic charisma. He’s not that magic. What he did – and what will work for others – is he worked incredibly hard and for real campaigned at the grassroots level instead of doing the usual Democratic Party thing of thinking demographics or identity or big donations or a military background will be the key. I wish all the Democrats would learn from him to TALK TO PEOPLE for real (and listen to them) and IGNORE CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS. That’s the magic!
Absolutely. He took his campaign to the people across every corner of the state and on a good number of issues was unashamedly progressive, and I think as time went on he would become an even more progressive Senator. I do not however, want a bunch of centrist Obama folks working their way into his circle and pushing him for president.
I’ve followed Sema for longer than Ive followed Beto and ultimately while she ran as good of a campaign as she could have and did quite well, she has come across as a sore loser to me since the loss, and her tweets, interviews, etc have all been pretty sour. I chose Beto over her in the primary, despite her Bernie credentials and have no regrets.
Time to whip up some public shaming:
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/12/05/deadline-save-net-neutrality-days-away-here-are-18-democrats-still-siding-telecom
We can’t forget the names when it comes to the next set of primaries. It should be a rather large list when we consider this and other upcoming events.
LOL Manchin is showing off a couple of fancy dance moves.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-05/manchin-changes-mind-on-trump-s-pro-coal-nominee-amid-pressure?srnd=politics-vp
It appears as if Canada is becoming Trump’s lapdog.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-05/huawei-cfo-arrested-in-canada-as-u-s-seeks-her-extradition
Canada being the “lapdog” of the U.S. is nothing new and has nothing to do with Trump. And the govt of Canada has been pro-Israel, anti-Iran for as long as I can remember.
Canada’s Trudeau condemns BDS in apology to Jewish WWII refugees
Needless to say, it’s particularly disingenuous to link BDS with turning away German Jews in 1939. Justin Trudeau is a very disappointing prime minister to progressives around the world. But, with his words and actions, he is just continuing the usual Canadian policies, unfortunately.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trudeau-bds-848286726
There are no shortages of DInos at the State level.
This is a good thing.
I guess Akexandria has some influence ?
Good one.?
A pause that refreshes!
He sees his owners video in the smart phone he died sometime ago Lovely 1
Awwwwwwww, kitty..
Hey fellow TPWers: I just got a scam from here in my email. It’s a classic claiming it’s Maureen from Australia who’s 42 and needs financial help, etc. You see anything like this, let LD and the rest of us know. I hit the ‘delete’ asap, needless to say! 🙂
It is being dealt with.
I got the scam e-mail, too. Thanks, humphrey, for letting us know it is being dealt with.
Excellent Humphrey