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LieparDestin

LieparDestin

polarbear4

That meandering path….

orlbucfan

Yuck! Boy-toy needs a Madonna tune for his campaign song.

WindDancer13

I kind of favor this one for him:

LieparDestin

polarbear4

Just move into the White House already.

WindDancer13

Trump doesn’t like dogs.

orlbucfan

Maybe if one peed on him, he might melt like the Wicked Witch Of the West..wishful thinking.

WindDancer13

LOL

Careful….he might call that statement a witch hunt. = )

orlbucfan

It’s not called POX for nothing!

WindDancer13

Does anyone know? If I/we watch a video here at TPW is it counted in the YouTube viewers count? Or do I have to actually go to YT for it to count?

Thanks!

LieparDestin

It should count.

On a side note youtubes search filters have been broken for days now to where you cannot search for the most recent videos, etc. Super frustrating and apparently on purpose due to trying to limit NZ shooting footage from being broadcast

WindDancer13

Thank you. How far does “should” get me? = )

Keeping the NZ shooting video off air is worth a broken search, I think.

LieparDestin

I think as long as over 40% of a video (it may have changed now) is watched from an outside platform it counts as a view. It may just be the first few minutes, I can’t quite keep up with the algorithm these days

WindDancer13

Ah, okay, thanks! That helps. There are some things I do not want to give a higher count to and some that I want to make sure are counted and am looking for a time-saving mechanism.

Speaking of saving time, what is the quickest way to find new posts in any given thread? I know if I just leave the thread open, the new posts show up highlighted, but I like to refresh so I get the pictures and can determine if I really want to go to the link. Thanks again!

LieparDestin

Theres a sorter option just above the first comment that you can switch to “newest”

WindDancer13

ahhhhh, thank you so very, very much!

polarbear4

I have that, too. Want to refresh, but don’t want to lose my yellows. Sometimes they are replies pretty far down.

WindDancer13

Exactly! Then by the time I scroll all the way to the bottom to find the yellows, there are more at the top and I get to start all over again.

LieparDestin

In a way i see the point of preventing the spread of the video but there has.to be a better way as the current.method results in censoring of literally most any video from a channel you arent subscribed to. Say I wanted to search bernie specific items from just yesterday
.. cannot do it. Venezuela news, etc, etc.

WindDancer13

When I cannot find things through a YT search, I use a regular Internet search. That usually finds me what I am looking for.

Given that YT likes to fill my sub list results with stuff I am not interested in and with junk (YT’s recommendations, supposedly related to my subs), it may be the only way to filter out the NZ stuff.

LieparDestin

LieparDestin

WindDancer13

Just FYI…ideology chart from govtrack.us:
(Click for larger view as I do not how to post these otherwise:

Orourke idealogy.jpg
Sanders idealogy.jpg
polarbear4

First, Andrew Bacevich, now this guy. These are the kinds of conservatives I can really get behind working with and I’m sure Bernie could, too.

polarbear4

His thread is a short article.

polarbear4

In 2012, Beto said the US had an extravagant government. Extravagant for the MIC, yeah.

https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1108095172599009282?s=20

WindDancer13

Wow! Raising the retirement age for social security? Means testing for Medicare? Of course, now he claims that he has changed. Would this be like the change Trump made when he vowed not to touch social security and Medicare and now is slashing away?

Can someone please tell the media that what is happening is not a move to the left; it is reclaiming the left. The so-called center is where Republicans were before Clinton.

magsview

is not a move to the left; it is reclaiming the left

Good one WindDancer 🙂

jcitybone

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics/cnn-poll-2020-harris-surge-deep-enthusiasm/index.html

Former Vice President Joe Biden (28%) and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (20%) continue to hold the top slots in the large Democratic field. Harris now stands at 12% support among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, up from 4% in December, and the latest entrant to the field — former Texas congressman Beto O’Rourke — stands at 11%.

Harris’s rise comes across the board — there is no major demographic group in which she lost support since December — but her gains are more pronounced among Democrats (+10 points) than independents (+5), liberals (+10) more than moderates or conservatives (+7), women (+9) more than men (+6), and racial and ethnic minorities (+10) more than whites (+6).

Beyond the top four, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (6%), former Secretary of State John Kerry (4%), New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker (3%) and Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar (3%) round out the group earning more than 1% support in the poll. Another five candidates land at 1%, a minimum level candidates must meet in three separate polls in order to be included in the first debates of the cycle later this year.

WindDancer13

John Kerry??? Ummm, has there been a time slip somewhere that I am not aware of?

A closer look at the actual poll reveals some very interesting things: https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/03/19/rel4b.-.2020.pdf

This is the third poll since Oct 2018:
Biden/Bernie Oct 33/13%
Biden/Bernie Dec 30/14%
Biden/Bernie current poll 28/20%

A trend that was ignored to tout Harris?

Favorable opinion (among Dems and Dem leaning Indies):
Bernie 74%
Biden N/A
Beto 46%

A total of 1,003 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones. Interviews were conducted in English and Spanish. Among the entire sample, 32% described themselves as Democrats, 25% described themselves as Republicans, and 44% described themselves as independents or members of another party.

Margin of error: +/- 3.8%

Leu2500
Leu2500

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jcitybone

The Sirota hiring is getting attacked. It looks like Sirota was informally connected to the campaign during the period he was going after other candidates. He also scrubbed his accounts right before he was hired and then denied that was the reason he did it. Of course the author of this article is claiming anything Sirota wrote about other candidates was “aggressive” and not just pointing out their records.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/sanders-promised-civility-hired-twitter-attack-dog/585259/

Shortly before he gave speeches launching his 2020 campaign earlier this month, Bernie Sanders emailed his supporters, urging them to “do our very best to engage respectfully with our Democratic opponents—talking about the issues we are fighting for, not about personalities or past grievances. I want to be clear that I condemn bullying and harassment of any kind and in any space.”

What he didn’t include was that one of the people already advising him and helping him write those launch speeches is one of his most famously aggressive supporters online.

Since December, David Sirota has, on Twitter, on his own website, and in columns in The Guardian, been trashing most of Sanders’s Democratic opponents—all without disclosing his work with Sanders—and has been pushing back on critics by saying that he was criticizing the other Democrats as a journalist. He centered many of his attacks on Beto O’Rourke, but he also bashed Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Joe Biden, Kirsten Gillibrand, Michael Bennet, John Hickenlooper, Mike Bloomberg, and even Andrew Cuomo.

Sirota’s hiring as a senior adviser and speechwriter was announced by the Sanders campaign on Tuesday morning after The Atlantic contacted the campaign and inquired about the undisclosed role Sirota held while attacking other Democrats.

Faiz Shakir, Sanders’s campaign manager, confirmed in an interview on Tuesday afternoon that Sirota had been in an advisory role prior to his hiring on March 11. “He was advising beforehand,” Shakir said, explaining that Sirota’s informal work for Sanders goes back months, and was meant to be a trial period to see how the senator, who famously likes to write every word that he says himself, would work with a speechwriter.

Asked if these attacks align with the pledge for a clean and positive campaign that Sanders has made, Shakir said, “I can only promise and pledge the manner in which he is going to work on this campaign is consistent with those values.”

He said that he is sure Sirota is apologetic. “All I can say is, going forward, he is very much a team player,” Shakir said.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Another “boo hoo hoo, Bernie & his peeps are meanies” story from the usual establishment hacks. File it in the round file with the politico article that came out after bernie’s call for his campaign staff to behave & remember the goal is to defeat Trump.

magsview

Yup, if they can’t take the heat, time to exit the kitchen.

polarbear4

polarbear4
polarbear4

As LD said, the Atlantic got it wrong, not David.

LieparDestin

Seems this is now disputed:

jcitybone

As a counterpoint to the article above there is this

https://www.gq.com/story/no-democrat-free-pass

But pundits are more interested in a new showdown in the primaries: the alleged war between Bernie Sanders and Beto O’Rourke.

First of all, it’s important to get the actual backstory out of the way. There’s no evidence that Sanders is directing or supporting, tacitly or otherwise, a shadow war against a Beto O’Rourke presidential run. That whole idea started because of a tweet from the director of the biggest liberal think tank in the country, the Center for American Progress, which has a spotty track record of actually supporting progressive goals or candidates. When journalist David Sirota shared O’Rourke’s record of accepting oil and gas donations, CAP director and Hillary crusader Neera Tanden took it to 11, calling on Bernie Sanders to repudiate such “attacks” by his “supporters.”

She followed up by saying, “I have no candidate in 2020. We can’t destroy whoever the nominee is.”

This is extremely backwards framing, but it’s not uncommon. Democrats are all on the same “team,” the argument goes, and shouldn’t they close ranks to defeat Donald Trump? But it’s akin to saying that no one is allowed to critique any Democrat ever in case they may eventually run for president. It’s based on a flawed argument about Trump’s victory, that Sanders insufficiently backed Hillary Clinton after the primaries despite a bigger portion of his supporters voting for her than hers did for Barack Obama in 2008. It also ignores the fact that the Republican Party is very ideologically fractured, keeps lurching further from the center, and went through a vicious primary in 2016 only to emerge with total control of the federal government.

On one level, the need to whip up support seems to make sense, if for no other reason than the Democrats don’t have nearly as deep a bench as the Republicans of prominent, party-line-towing suits ready to swap in whenever an old one falls. But it’s also important to keep in mind that if there’s anything we should be able to judge politicians on, it’s their policy and their beliefs. Is it an attack on Joe Biden, for example, to bring up his history of working against school integration? Or that time he said he has “no empathy” for young people struggling to get by because his generation “decided that we were going to change the world and we did?”

Defeating Donald Trump in 2020 can’t be the ultimate goal for the party because Trump isn’t going to just go away. Even if he does lose, there’s almost no chance he’ll give up Twitter or the campaign rallies, even with no campaign to run. And even if he decides to never run for office again, his influence and all the factors that put him in the White House in the first place aren’t going to go away after just one election. Democrats need to do more to justify their leadership than just putting up candidates whose top qualities are charm and not being Ted Cruz or they risk letting Trump or someone even worse eventually step into the vacuum that they leave open.

If the Democratic establishment insists on trying to crown another favorite candidate, like it did Clinton in 2016, then no one should be surprised if we see a repeat of 2016 on Election Day. And as embarrassing as that will be for the Party, it’ll be much worse for the rest of us.

WindDancer13

Somebody needs to explain charisma to me. When it comes to Beto, I just don’t see it. In fact, I am beginning to believe that someone’s merchandising team is working overtime. Kennedy-esque? Oh, please.

polarbear4

More like wealthy slacker doing his best to act like presidential material.

LieparDestin

Beto was interesting to watch when I saw him (videos on my youtube) but he was also talking far more progressively at the time. He is ‘friendly’ and mingles/runs with/stands on crowds, etc which combined with his smile is where the Kennedyesque stuff comes from. The harder he tries to live up to that image he initially created, the more insincere its becoming

WindDancer13

In my time as a bartender, I was friendly and mingled and we used to dance on top of the bar (until the owner lowered the ceiling and only I could fit under it) but that never made me think I should run for president. I was told I had a nice smile too. = )

I made this meme of what Beto will look like in the Dem debates because why the hell not pic.twitter.com/VATYBdpATB

— Winkle the BernieBro 🌹 (@the_bernie_bro) March 19, 2019

https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

magsview

Thank you WindDancer! I don’t think Beto is handsome at all, I don’t get that label on him at all!

jcitybone

Perhaps Harris’s comments could be considered “bragging” about pot use, but calling Bernie’s comment bragging is more than a reach: “I believe in the legalization of marijuana.” When asked if he had ever smoked, he replied: “Few times — didn’t do a whole lot for me. My recollection is, I nearly coughed my brains out, so it’s not my cup of tea.” I guess Booker’s desperate to get attention.

Booker claims never to have smoked pot

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/19/cory-booker-scolds-kamala-harris-bernie-sanders-bragging-pot-use/

In an interview with MSNBC on Monday, Booker suggested that, while he was in favor of reforming the drug laws, the gross disparity in the way that rich and poor users are currently treated by the criminal justice system makes it no laughing matter. “The privileged can break laws and not have to worry about it. There’s no difference between blacks and whites for using marijuana, or even selling marijuana, but blacks are almost four times more likely to be convicted,” Booker said.

“Now we have presidential candidates, senators, bragging about their pot use while there are kids who can’t get a job because they have a nonviolent offense for doing things that two of the last three presidents did,” he added.

While he declined to name them, both Harris and Sanders recently attracted attention for joking about their past use of the drug during interviews with “The Breakfast Club,” a nationally syndicated radio show.

As the pro-legalization website Marijuana Moment first noted, Booker made similar comments one day earlier, suggesting that he plans to use the issue against rivals who both signed on as co-sponsors last month when he introduced the Marijuana Justice Act, which would remove the drug from the federal list of controlled substances and expunge past convictions.

WindDancer13

Booker should try it. Imagine him running around the Senate chambers yelling, “I am Spartacus!” Wait!…maybe he shouldn’t try it.

LieparDestin

Booker is not the original marijuana legalization candidate no matter what he may try and say.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/where-presidential-candidate-bernie-sanders-stands-on-marijuana/

More than 20 years ago, Sanders cosponsored a House bill to legalize and regulate medical marijuana. He also signed onto legislation that would reschedule cannabis and protect states with legal medical cannabis. He cosponsored versions of that bill in the 107th, 108th and 109th Congresses.

Everything Booker said above Bernie said here:

LieparDestin

polarbear4

Are you listening, Kamala?

polarbear4

They probably crib.

polarbear4

What does Rosario see in him?

polarbear4

Yeah, demonizing pot smokers will go over well.

polarbear4

jcitybone

Peas in a pod

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-socialism-end-last-thing-1368590

President Donald Trump has predicted the eclipse of socialism in the Americas, arguing the ideology has failed in the United States and other nations in the region.

Standing beside far-right Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, Trump praised ties between the two states, going as far as to consider making the South American state a member of the U.S.-led NATO Western military alliance. Trump and Bolsonaro, two conservatives who have rallied supporters against establishment politics, mainstream media and big government have been especially united by their opposition to an ideology that has long gripped Latin America—socialism.

“The twilight hour of socialism has arrived in our hemisphere,” Trump told reporters during a joint Rose Garden press conference with Bolsonaro. “Hopefully, it’s also arrived in our great country, the last thing we want in the United States is socialism.”

jcitybone

Meanwhile in the real world

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/03/13/its-not-socialism-its-what-people-want?fbclid=IwAR0maXGb_AW7kKgARHP-jfCpphAkgZ7OfE8U9E5yPIfE-C7AF3wt0Jzrln4&utm_source=hootsuite&utm_medium=&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=

The real problem for the GOP, however, is not merely that squawking like Chicken Little about diabolical socialism makes them sound like old fuddy-duddies, but that the so-called socialism they’re attacking is enormously popular with the workaday majority of Americans. Government-backed health care for all? Sure. Why should CEOs and Congress critters be the only ones to get this? Affordable higher education and housing initiatives? Of course, for that helps all of America. A wealth tax on corporate giants and the superrich? Long overdue that they stop dodging the cost of the common good. Restore the rights of labor and restrain the rise of monopolies? Yes!

Far from socialism, this is democratic populism, reversing decades of government policies that take from the many to give to the wealthy few. It’s an honest, popular rebellion against the corporate plutocracy that seeks to usurp America’s democracy, promoted by Trump and Cornyn. Which side are you on?

WindDancer13

He continued: “But the good news is that tyranny is doing well. Let’s hear it for despots!”

Crowd: “Tyrrrraannnyyy!! Tyrrrraannnyyy!! Tyrrrraannnyyy!!”

polarbear4

polarbear4

👇👇🏻👇🏼👇🏽👇🏾👇🏿

polarbear4

So forget the whole Sirota thing. As for deleting his tweets, Gentleman Jon Snow said he was in between a rock and a hard place and really had to or people like Neera would’ve been poring over his tweets forever

magsview

Or her alter-ego Regina would have been.

polarbear4

WindDancer13

Hey, Beto! THIS is a Kennedy (and he speaks Spanish!):

He is choosing not to run in 2020, but it would be fun to post his videos right behind any of Beto trying to channel Kennedy.

WindDancer13

LOL, I guess Beto knows what a Kennedy looks like. They are very good friends. They were sworn in together for the 2013 congressional class, along with Corey Booker, Tulsi Gabbard, John Delaney and Elizabeth Warren. Kennedy has endorsed Warren, btw.

humphrey

This should not come as a surprise to anyone who has been paying attention.

polarbear4

No strong, truthful, courageous as hell women for Emily’s list!

magsview

Emily’s List seems to be more and more of a problem for progressives. In fact, if Emily’s List endorses someone it’s a good bet that person is not on our side.

humphrey

humphrey

Not exactly what she needs.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/434822-top-gillibrand-aide-to-resign-over-handling-of-sexual-misconduct-allegation

A top aide in Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand’s (D-N.Y.) Senate office is reportedly leaving after questions about the aide’s handling of a sexual harassment allegation against a top male staffer that was uncovered earlier this month.

Gillibrand told reporters in Iowa on Tuesday while on the presidential campaign trail that her deputy chief of staff, Anne Bradley, was resigning and that “the decision was her own,” The Associated Press reported.

Bradley has worked for the New York Democrat since 2007 and had been planning to retire later this year, though expedited her departure after details of the investigation were revealed, according to Politico.

humphrey

LOL!

magsview

Wow, I didn’t even recognize him!

humphrey

It wouldn’t surprise me.😜

magsview

LMAO 😀

humphrey

magsview

This announcement was the highlight of my day yesterday. I love Briahna.

humphrey

humphrey

orlbucfan

T and R, Benny!! Just finished listening to “White Wedding” on this oldies station I get via streaming. 🙂 I can’t keep up with all these daily posts. Love it!! I remember when LD started the BNR on TOP a few years back! 🙂 🙂

polarbear4

humphrey

How long will it be until she drops out?

Amy CloudBootJar: Sure I’m An Ass To My Staff, But Also To Putin!

humphrey

humphrey

humphrey

Karma?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/434838-italian-politician-who-opposed-making-chickenpox-vaccinations

An Italian politician known for his vocal opposition to a new law mandating that school-aged children get immunized against several diseases, including chickenpox, has come down with the chickenpox.

Massimiliano Fedriga, a member of the far-right League party, was placed under observation for four days last week after contracting the disease, according to local news outlets.

Fedriga was a chief detractor of the so-called Lorenzin law, which would make it required for school-aged children to get immunized to chickenpox, measles, polio and more. Parents who do not comply can be fined up to $560 for sending their unvaccinated children to school and kindergartens and pre-schools have the option of turning away children under six years old who haven’t had the necessary immunizations.

humphrey

polarbear4

magsview

The letter ‘B’ seems to be in play this year. 😉

jcitybone

Shakir looks like a great hire

https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-david-sirota-speechwriter-attacked-democrats-unofficial-employee-2019-3?utm_source=reddit.com

Meanwhile, old tweets from Sanders’ new press secretary Briahna Joy Gray on Russian election interference, a journalist whose role with the campaign was also announced Tuesday, have gained attention on social media. In one such tweet from September 2016, Gray said, “@realDonaldTrump is right. The dems pushed the ‘Russia did the hacking’ angle b/c it was politically advantageous for them. #debatenight.”

Some reporters have interpreted Gray’s tweet as suggesting the hacks were an “inside job,” implying there was a conspiratorial element to her statements at the time.

When asked about Gray’s tweet, Shakir told INSIDER he “didn’t read it that way.” In his view, Gray was being critical of the “preponderance” of attention that was granted to Russia at the time and felt it was “distracting from other arguments that could be used to defeat Donald Trump.”

“What’s past is in the past. We don’t own a lot of the views she’s articulated in the past,” Shakir said.

“Now, going forward, we are all on one team. I have zero doubt she will be a full team player,” he added.

When asked for a comment about the general narrative surrounding some of these new hires and some of the immediate criticism, including toward Sirota, Shakir said, “I welcome people digging into Twitter profiles if that’s what they want to do with their time.”

“We’re honored to have Briahna on this campaign,” Shakir said, adding that the campaign has tried to “put together” a team that “looks like and reflects America.”

polarbear4

It is a dyn-o-mite team. So exciting. Haters gonna hate while they go full steam ahead!

humphrey

jcitybone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-and-warren-are-talking-a-lot-about-civil-rights-not-many-blacks-are-listening/2019/03/19/af608ff6-4719-11e9-90f0-0ccfeec87a61_story.html?utm_term=.097ea3c925a4

Many of Sanders’s supporters say they are frustrated that he does not talk more about his own role in the civil rights movement, since they say he has a good story to tell. As a young activist, Sanders attended the 1963 March on Washington, was a leader of the Congress of Racial Equality chapter at the University of Chicago, and got arrested at an anti-segregation protest.

“He was literally chaining himself to black women and being arrested in Chicago,” said Shaun King, a black journalist and activist who supports Sanders, referring to a protest Sanders attended against perpetuating segregation by educating black children in temporary classrooms called “Willis Wagons.”

But Sanders, more than most candidates, appears uncomfortable talking about himself. After mentioning his civil rights experiences at early rallies in Brooklyn and Chicago, he has largely returned to his familiar policy-heavy speeches.

King said Sanders does not talk about his civil rights credentials in part because he is reluctant to compare himself to the great civil rights leaders.

“He never wanted to make himself feel like he was on their level,” King said. “He mentioned it in Chicago . . . but I don’t think he’s going to keep mentioning it. I think he feels like it’s phony . . . like ‘I did that because it was right. I didn’t do it as a political device.’ ”

Ben Tulchin, Sanders’s pollster, said the candidate is working behind the scenes to build relationships with local black leaders. The senator met with South Carolina faith leaders Friday, despite having injured his head on a glass shower enclosure, requiring seven stitches and a large white bandage on his forehead all day.

“Last time, we started at zero, right? And we had to introduce the senator to voters around the country,” said Tulchin, acknowledging that Sanders attracted few black votes in South Carolina in 2016. “Now they know him — he’s well-known and well-liked, but they don’t still know his full story.”

humphrey

What a surprise coming from a Jeff Bezos owned newspaper. Much more like this to come.

humphrey

SMH!

humphrey

humphrey

humphrey

But it is OK for Hilbots to fabricate stories like this.

humphrey

humphrey

OzoneTom
OzoneTom

Exactly something I have been pointing-out to people who are freaking-out about the number of candidates keeping anyone from having enough delegates to win a convention first vote.

As long as the field is so crowded it is likely to be Bernie and probably only one non-Bernie candidate meeting state thresholds to be awarded delegates.

polarbear4

From your lips…. 🙏 (this emoji has a dual meaning—TY and prayer 😜)

humphrey

humphrey

I wonder if it has anything to do with where they get their news?

humphrey

But he had to get one shot at Bernie!

WindDancer13

He is cherry picking his numbers. I posted some of the information from that poll above. (Sorry, I do not know how to link to it.)

OzoneTom
OzoneTom

Yes, even among a generally pro-Hillary group at 538 Harry Enten always stood out as the premier fan-boy. And I guess that he’s still coping with that 2016 loss.

humphrey

WindDancer13

How often has he apologized for Trump’s comments, e.g., neo-Nazis are nice people?

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