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Don midwest

The Muller report

I follow with a twitter tab on the side, not one of the already too many twitter people to follow, I follow Marcy Wheeler. Here is her summary of the Muller report from what we know at this time.

AFTER MUELLER: AN OFF-RAMP ON RUSSIA FOR THE VENAL FUCKS

Glenn Greenwald has been pointing out forever how the Dems have failed to show that the RUSSIANS! RUSSIANS! stole the election. It is too easy to bring back the scare tactic that was the basis for the cold war and continues as the basis for our military empire. How could you loose if you just said RUSSIA! COMMUNISM! SOCIALISM!

Marcy says that Glenn is discounting the seriousness of the Russian involvement as seen with all the members of the Trump crime organization doing deals with Russia and other oil and energy rich states, and the corruption of banking, etc. Marcy has also said, as I recall, that Matt Taibbi has discounted the serious nature of the Russian effort. Both Glenn and Matt I am almost positive are clear about the mafia nature of the Trump crime collective and the Russians.

And the failure of the Clinton faction and establishment to realize the message of the 2016 election as seen in the David Asshole Brock effort to spend more money…

Here is a different twist from Matt Taibbi on the RUSSIA STOLE THE ELECTION

Namely, the failure of the press,like they failed in the WMD lies that led to Iraq.

With a pathological lair as president and a Republican party out to destroy our government and the earth, we need a press that tells the truth.

Nothing Trump is accused of from now on by the press will be believed by huge chunks of the population, a group that (perhaps thanks to this story) is now larger than his original base. As Baker notes, a full 50.3% of respondents in a poll conducted this month said they agree with Trump the Mueller probe is a “witch hunt.”

Stories have been coming out for some time now hinting Mueller’s final report might leave audiences “disappointed,” as if a President not being a foreign spy could somehow be bad news.

Openly using such language has, all along, been an indictment. Imagine how tone-deaf you’d have to be to not realize it makes you look bad, when news does not match audience expectations you raised. To be unaware of this is mind-boggling, the journalistic equivalent of walking outside without pants.

It’s official: Russiagate is this generation’s WMD
The Iraq war faceplant damaged the reputation of the press. Russiagate just destroyed

wi61

I have a feeling Muellar report wont be enough to get Trumpcorp out right impeached unless he did something really really bad.( The rich and powerfull always get caught for tax code violations. Trumpcorp cant stop that at the state level or even the Fed level for certain charges. Trumpcorp will be charged with some type of tax law violation sooner or later. No one is immune to the tax man sooner or later they get you

orlbucfan

Orange imbecile will get popped at the state level just like Al Capone did. Capone was a lot smarter and murderously meaner, too.

jcitybone

Fox polls are actually respected. Biden and Bernie are far ahead of the field. No bounce for Beto. Warren is very low. M4A is most popular. Dems want someone who can beat Trump. Bernie will be emphasizing that. This one has a fairly high sampling error for Dem voters: + or – 5%.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-sanders-top-democratic-preference

So many Democrats are running for president the race feels like a March Madness bracket. If it were, the No. 1 seeds would be former Vice President Joe Biden and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Either would be favored to beat President Donald Trump in the 2020 finals, according to the latest Fox News Poll.

Democratic primary voters were read a list of 20 announced and potential candidates for the 2020 nomination. Biden is the top choice at 31 percent, followed by Sanders at 23 percent.

California Sen. Kamala Harris (8 percent) and former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke (8 percent) make up a second tier. They are followed by New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker (4 percent), Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (4 percent), and New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (2 percent).

The poll also asks Democratic primary voters about policies. Majorities are “very” likely to back a candidate who supports Medicare for all (67 percent) and a 70 percent tax rate on income over $10 million (53 percent). Less than 4 in 10 are very likely to vote for a candidate who supports passing the Green New Deal (37 percent), paying reparations to descendants of slaves (31 percent), and abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ICE (25 percent).

Democratic primary voters are more likely to support a candidate they think can beat Trump (51 percent) than the candidate they like the most (36 percent).

The hypothetical head-to-heads among registered voters show support for Trump stays between 40-42 percent against each Democrat tested. He tops both Harris (39-41 percent) and Warren by 2 points (40-42 percent).

Sanders has a 3-point edge over the president (44-41 percent), but Biden performs best, topping Trump by 7 points (47-40 percent).

jcitybone

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/435464-gillibrand-to-call-trump-a-coward-in-campaign-kickoff-speech

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) is expected to take aim at President Trump in a speech kicking off her 2020 presidential campaign in front of one of his New York properties on Sunday.

Gillibrand will blast Trump as a “coward” who “punches down” and label the Trump International Hotel as a “shrine to greed, division and vanity,” according to excerpts of her prepared remarks obtained by multiple news outlets.

“President Trump is tearing apart the moral fabric of our country,” she plans to say, Reuters noted. “He demonizes the vulnerable and he punches down…Our president is a coward.”

polarbear4

I’m trying to find a calm place again after accidentally stumbling into the map—nomap community. Someone tweeted about pedophiles and asked what todo and I said, Report it, right?

Well no. Even though one map talked about how much he liked babysitting. Apparently, maps have contact with children, nomaps do not, though both are “ minor attracted persons.” Nomaps help maps to not act out.

And have a lot of “ information “ on how it is not maps that molest children most” of the time.

I want to be an understanding person, but it bothers me—I guess it’s good that many ID themselves in their handle, so kids can block those handles.

But the whole thing makes me feel uneasy—the guy that I responded to and fell in this hole apologized. We had a laugh about going back in time to when we were unaware.

Thanks for listening— I debated whether to even share, because now I’ve given you all something that can be tricky to navigate, emotionally. But it’s there and it seems we just take their word for it that nothing untoward is happening.

Just like life. Better to have them open about it—I guess there are all kinds of communities on Twitter. I’m less naive today, and can see that Twitter is no place for children.

Thanks for listening.

wi61

Since Cali moved its primary up we agree its a key state for Bernie to win. We all know that Bernie was way way behind in the south in 16 as $hillary basically had those states sewn up without much hard work. That meant Bernie had a narrow path to victory during the 16 run. 2020 Tx will be hard for Bernie due to Beto. Beto will probably win that primary but whom would he endorse if has to suspend his campaign?- Biden? Then the out lying factor is can Bernie still win the south when Biden declares and a probable endorsement from the Clintons? For what ever reason the Clinton name carries votes in the south and their machine isn’t quite dead yet. I worry that them and the Neolibs will pull anything to wrestle the nomination from Bernie. Some of them would prefer 4 more of Trumpcorp which would do more harm worldwide than I want to think about. Its gonna be a hard fight and i’m sure Bernie and his staff have game planned for the southern state strategy for votes for the primaries. But haven’t heard much about a strategy for the southern states yet which Bernie will need to win some of to carry a first round primary win of 2383 and keep the 2nd round SD mix out of the convention vote. I want the DNC to have no choice to have to go with Bernie as the nominee. Long hard battle ahead….

polarbear4

It is scary. And their willingness to do this again is astounding. If they put there weight behind Bernie, It would’ve been a cakewalk.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Differences from 2016:

-Bernie isn’t starting at 3%

-despite what the msm/establishment wants you to believe, Bernie polls well with minorities.

-despite what the msm/establishment wants you to believe, Bernie did better with minorities than Hillary. Minorities in the Deep South are not the only place minorities live in the US

– there are more younger voters than baby boomers now. Who polls better with younger voters?

– this is bernie’s 2nd run, not his first. He has a lot of lessons learned.

– Bernie really never stopped running after 2016. He has a 2 year head start on the other candidates

– Bernie is not running a budget campaign. He has the donations to run in all states. This is key given that the IA caucus & the start of the CA primary are on the same day. We get a good look at how the money race is going with 1st quarter FEC reports mid-April

-Bernie has a base of grass roots supporters that have been active for 3 years.

– speaking of CA, while Harris may be the favorite daughter, I am not assuming that the success she saw in statewide races b4 is automatic in the primary. She has better competition this time.

– also CA: they are electing a new chair of the CA Dem Party. Berniecrats almost got their candidate elected last time. And Ellis is running again. You might want to take a look at this race.

-look at 1988 for how a primary with a ton of candidates works out. There WILL be attrition after IA, then after NH. That’s when the money usually dries up. I’m actually expecting attrition b4 IA.

– DNC reforms. The rules have been improved this time.

And this is just a few of the differences.

polarbear4

Thanks.

wi61

All good points Leu. I’m still worried about the DNC’s corporate handlers and the BS from them that’s to come. As far as the MSM goes Bernie will force them to cover him at some point. You mentioned younger voters, their are 10s of thousands that sat out 2016 because of the BS the DNC pulled or voted Green that should come back to Bernie as well.

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wi61

Ouch!!!

humphrey

I am curious as how the MSM will spin this.

jcitybone

https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-to-reject-classified-briefing-on-mueller-report-russia-investigation-2019-3?utm_source=reddit.com

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Saturday that she would reject any attempts by the Justice Department to provide a highly classified briefing on special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation to congressional leaders.

Pelosi argued in a Saturday afternoon phone call with Democrats that a classified briefing could be an attempt to avoid public release of the probe’s findings, Politico reported. She expressed concern that Attorney General William Barr may try to brief just a handful of top Senate and House Republicans and Democrats, known as the Gang of Eight.

Democrats have consistently held that Mueller’s report should be released publicly in full. They’re also pushing for the release of all relevant “underlying evidence,” including information that could be damaging to the president, to congressional committees for the purpose of their investigations into potential obstruction of justice and other abuses committed by the president.

During the Saturday call, two top House Democrats reportedly cited Republican demands for underlying documents in the FBI’s probe into Hillary Clinton’s private email server as precedent for their requests. Republicans were ultimately successful in making public thousands of documents, including FBI agents’ text messages and emails, in an effort to shed light on the agency’s handling of the Clinton investigation.

polarbear4

Would be nice to have someone who could leak that important information. Oh wait they want to put someone like that in prison

wi61

President Sanders can pardon him or her 🙂

Virginia Lawler
Virginia Lawler

Thanks to Speaker Pelosi for seeing thru what could be an administration attempt to prevent ALL of us from being fully informed on an issue of intense import, the Mueller Report. Any attempt by the new A.G. to brief only a handful of Senate and House leaders of both parties is totally unacceptable. Of course, certain aspects of the report can be dutifully redacted first to protect security concerns or the individual rights of innocent individuals who might be mentioned. BUT, the entire report must be made public, including ALL relevant “underlying evidence,” whomever it addresses! I will now write to my congressfolk about this–probably only one sentence is actually needed. Might I hope many of us will? Numbers do count. In solidarity….

wi61

If Trumpcorps people have their way this is what we’ll get

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Leu2500
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wi61

This was at TWOB, a reminder of the 2016 primary that was stolen from Bernie. Its long but worth the time especially if changes weren’t made.

humphrey

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humphrey

They just won’t let go of it!

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/435509-schiff-despite-no-more-indictments-there-is-evidence-of

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said Sunday that there is “significant evidence” of collusion between President Trump’s campaign and Russia in the 2016 election, despite special counsel Robert Mueller’s lack of indictments related to issue.

Schiff, appearing on ABC’s “This Week,” was asked by host George Stephanopoulos how he squares his past assertions that there is evidence of collusion with Mueller’s decision not to charge anyone with such crimes.

Schiff responded that there is “significant evidence of collusion” and pointed to evidence such as the Trump Tower meeting in 2016 between Trump campaign officials and Russians as well as alleged communications between former Trump adviser Roger Stone and WikiLeaks.

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I would be lying if I said that I didn’t enjoy this.😁👍😜

Rachel Maddow Breaks Down After Robert Mueller Wouldn’t Indict Trump | When Delusion Breaks

Jamarl even lights up a victory cigar. LOL

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polarbear4

There’s a rally/pre-rally thread up. TY Benny.

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