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Paul ADK
Paul ADK

The lesser of two evils is still evil. I’m looking at Howie Hawkins, at the moment. This might be one of those elections where the most productive thing to do is to grow a third party.

Trump is not mine. That he is president is a direct result of the DNC having forced an unpopular candidate on the party. And the same thing is happening now, again. So why would my response be any different, this time? If Trump gets any trumpier he’s going to implode. I’m fine with that.

Stub
Stub

I have much respect for Bill McKibben but I disagree with his argument that it’s ok to vote Green party in states where the election won’t be close, but not in swing states. I’m planning to vote Green but I’m going to donate money to the Green parties in each of the swing states. I think that is the most effective thing anyone can do to cripple the Democratic party. And cripple the Democratic party we must if we want to end the climate crisis and win single payer health care.

wi65

Hell if he won and the house and senate were controlled by the Dems it would be 4 years of nothing but comedy and numerous investigations, he would have a nervous breakdown…

Don midwest
Don midwest

joe, that joe

who I had never heard about until the Bernie interview

found him again

on democracynow this morning, epidemologist Peter Daszak was on the show

insane that Trump drop funding to WHO

recommend look up the interview

Peter is with institutes and Columbia University

I went to his twitter feed and found out that he was one of the 100 influencers on the corona virus according to a group that does that kind of stuff. Interesting that the #1 influencer was the head of WHO.

Coronavirus: Top Healthcare Professionals

study was March 17 which is years and years ago in pandemic time

in any case they noted that 2 of the influencers did not have a twitter account. One had been on Joe Rogan’s show and as of March 17, that interview had had over 10 million views.

I am listening to the interview right now and it is up to 14.2 million views. And the interview was on March 10!!!

And still good stuff. Didn’t realize the prions are in deer. Prions from Mad Cow fame.

Joe Rogan Experience #1439 – Michael Osterholm

Benny

Is anyone gonna question Symone Sanders and Team Biden about what banks are doing with stimulus checks?

For some struggling Americans, the arrival of a deposit from the Treasury Department to help with basic expenses like rent and groceries during the coronavirus crisis was something to count on — until their financial institutions got in the way.

That was what happened to Benji Pedro of Columbia, S.C. Because his account at Safe Federal Credit Union was overdrawn by $2,650, he had planned to ask the Treasury Department to mail him a check. But before he could, the agency deposited $1,200 into the overdrawn account on Wednesday, and a representative of the credit union told him that it was keeping all of it, Mr. Pedro said.

Mr. Pedro, a 24-year-old recording artist who lives with his girlfriend and their child, said his account had been overdrawn because of subscriptions to two music services that he had forgotten to cancel.

Representatives of Safe Federal Credit Union had no immediate comment.

orlbucfan

Stories like this are what the FRighties and their slime mold allies hop on. Sad but true.

polarbear4

Not a very good credit union. Mine wouldn’t have paid those music subscriptions once I overdrew.

Benny

Identity theft plagued Mr. Benny once. He made the mistake of using a debit card at a gas station and his bank account was almost cleaned out (he was living in FL at the time). The bank did not notify him; he had to report it himself once he couldn’t withdraw some cash. Luckily, he got his money back but that was pathetic. Took weeks to straighten it out.

polarbear4

thanks for the tip! now that i think about it, he never did say he was over drawn. maybe it just kept charging

wi65

That I can believe, almost easier dealing with the IRS than a bankster

Don midwest
Don midwest

Fuck Fuck

Virus from China bio weapon lab

the intelligence communities playing the same game as the dem party

the republican party looking for an excuse

blame on the communists

to change the subject

The doctor on Joe Rogan’s show that I linked in another comment said

in the 1990 I worked in the area of bio weapons. I interviewed bio weapons developers from the old Soviet union because they wanted to talk. And he has been involved in other areas

he said flat out that humans don’t know enough to make this virus. Nature knows how to do it.

he published a book a couple of years ago that predicted that this kind of an outbreak would happen

there is no way it could happen from a bio lab

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Just at the time when all our institutions are under attack, and capitalism has wounded many of them, this is not the time to spread conspiracy theories to provide power and money to some groups

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In the interview with Joe, and on democracy now with A. Roy, the attack on Gaia is resulting in this — going deeper into forests, people more dense

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there are thousands if not millions potential virus that could evolve

Don midwest
Don midwest

link to Peter

polarbear4

Benny

Nina is one of the guests on The Rising today.

Don midwest
Don midwest

Liz

lack of principles

I tended to favor her for VP and I recall her work on finance, but after this reminded that she can’t carry her home state, and she has walked back all the work that got her into politics, AND, she zapped Bernie

(another vague hope bites the dust)

well done segment

it shouldn’t be so easy to make such a damming critique of a politician

like Biden, dem establishment, what does Liz stand for?

what are her principles?

orlbucfan

humphrey has a point: once a 🐍, always a 🐍. I never liked her, and hoped I was wrong.

Benny

I don’t hate Warren. But pulling out the gender card to blunt Bernie was bad advice. This is on Team Warren and her weak Obama advisors.

Benny

If anything killed Warren’s campaign, it was that and also the Senate Trial for removing Trump in January.

Paul ADK
Paul ADK

Not to mention the selective memory of the event. I believed Bernie’s take on that entirely. She was being opportunistic.

wi65

I gave her the benefit of the doubt early in the process, but when she pulled that crap on Bernie it was all over for me– she destroyed any bit of cred she had. She’s part of the Neolibcon problem

Benny

Here’s the interview of Turner itself:

Benny

Paul ADK
Paul ADK

The Snake never had any principles. Only aspirations and objectives. And the pretty words that she took from Bernie.

Don midwest
Don midwest

states response to opening up after pandemic settles down

Emptywheel, Marcy Wheeler has an article on Ohio which with a republican governor has done well on this outbreak. His head of public health worked in the Obama administration. Good comments and one former resident of the state who has followed the governor, Mike DeWine, who has used his Catholic background to go after abortion in the state, has done well with this crisis.

I live in OH

WAPO SHOULD GO TO COLUMBUS TO FIND OUT HOW ECONOMY WILL REOPEN, NOT PERPETUATE TRUMP’S MYTHS ABOUT IT

In a tweet this morning, she links to the governor of MD

Governor Hogan Plans Gradual Rollout of Recovery Phase Amid “Very Real Reasons for Hope and Optimis

ANNAPOLIS, MD—Governor Larry Hogan today announced that Maryland is now in a position to plan the gradual rollout of the state’s recovery phase amid “very real reasons for hope and optimism,” laying out four building blocks for a recovery plan:

Expanding testing capacity
Increasing hospital surge capacity
Ramping up supply of PPE
Building a robust contact tracing operation

Trump and his team of jerks wants to rush to open.

This will be a really big deal going into the election this year because Trump wants the economy to look good.

(I am going to ask a question — but I know the answer and hope I am wrong)

Will the dem establishment have a sane policy statement like the 4 points above and push back on the Trump media machine?

Trump has killed people

It is right there out in the open

When are the dems going to take strong stands? What do they stand for?

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to repeat how naive I was back in 2008 when I thought at any minute, the dem establishment would jump on the issue election integrity. why did it take so long to realize that they were ass kissers to capitalism?

and that capitalism is the new religion

Capitalism has replaced Nature as the main organizing principle of civilization

and the dem party is riding that train