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Leu2500
Leu2500

Neera Tanden ran to The NY Times for help. Tl;dr is she doesn’t understand the first rule of holes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/politics/tanden-sanders-.html

Here’s the actual letter Bernie sent to cap’s Board. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5839898-Bernie-Sanders-Letter-Accusing-CAP-of.html

Caps’s statement After Sanders’s letter.

Washington, D.C. — Neera Tanden, president and CEO of the Center for American Progress, released the following statement today:

The orientation of CAP is to positively engage with all political leaders about the country’s future.

ThinkProgress is editorially independent of CAP and CAP Action, which is what has made it valuable as a news outlet. Similarly, we at CAP can form our own opinions of their work. We believe the content of the ThinkProgress video critiquing Sen. Sanders is overly harsh and does not reflect our approach to a constructive debate of the issues.

Leu2500
Leu2500

The Times has been busy. Here’s another establishment article. If they felt this way yesterday, imagine how they feel this morning after Bernie’s appearance on Fox News. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

‘Stop Sanders’ Democrats Are Agonizing Over His Momentum

WASHINGTON — When Leah Daughtry, a former Democratic Party official, addressed a closed-door gathering of about 100 wealthy liberal donors in San Francisco last month, all it took was a review of the 2020 primary rules to throw a scare in them.

Democrats are likely to go into their convention next summer without having settled on a presidential nominee, said Ms. Daughtry, who ran her party’s conventions in 2008 and 2016, the last two times the nomination was contested. And Senator Bernie Sanders is well positioned to be one of the last candidates standing, she noted.

“I think I freaked them out,” Ms. Daughtry recalled with a chuckle, an assessment that was confirmed by three other attendees. They are hardly alone.

Ms. Dougherty is Knowledge if history is lacking. Look back to the 1988 primaries for a time when we had numbers if candidates like we do now & how it worked out.

From canapé-filled fund-raisers on the coasts to the cloakrooms of Washington, mainstream Democrats are increasingly worried that their effort to defeat President Trump in 2020 could be complicated by Mr. Sanders, in a political scenario all too reminiscent of how Mr. Trump himself seized the Republican nomination in 2016.

It’s not “defeating Trump” that worries them.

How, some Democrats are beginning to ask, do they thwart a 70-something candidate from outside the party structure who is immune to intimidation or incentive and wields support from an unwavering base, without simply reinforcing his “the establishment is out to get me’’ message — the same grievance Mr. Trump used to great effect?

But stopping Mr. Sanders, or at least preventing a contentious convention, could prove difficult for Democrats.

He has enormous financial advantages — already substantially outraising his Democratic rivals — that can sustain a major campaign through the primaries. And he is well-positioned to benefit from a historically large field of candidates that would splinter the vote: If he wins a substantial number of primaries and caucuses and comes in second in others, thanks to his deeply loyal base of voters across many states, he would pick up formidable numbers of delegates for the nomination.

That prospect is not only spooking establishment-aligned Democrats, but it is also creating tensions about what, if anything, should be done to halt Mr. Sanders.

Do what!?

David Brock emerges from his hole.

There’s a growing realization that Sanders could end up winning this thing, or certainly that he stays in so long that he damages the actual winner,” said David Brock, the liberal organizer, who said he has had discussions with other operatives about an anti-Sanders campaign and believes it should commence “sooner rather than later.”

Ah yes. Salivating over all the money he can make.

You get the idea.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Oops! Don’t want to skip this

The matter of What To Do About Bernie and the larger imperative of party unity has, for example, hovered over a series of previously undisclosed Democratic dinners in New York and Washington organized by the longtime party financier Bernard Schwartz. The gatherings have included scores from the moderate or center-left wing of the party, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi; Senator Chuck Schumer, the majority leader; former Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia; Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., himself a presidential candidate; and the president of the Center for American Progress, Neera Tanden.

Leu2500
Leu2500

I think we can safely stay that major Pete is the current stalking horse.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Say. Mayor.

orlbucfan

You mean Mayor Buttagag? Still another woeful inexperienced yahoo being offered to the plebes by the establishment. YUCK1 T and R, LD!!

polarbear4

There you have it. This makes me so angry. Helpless to stop it. We have to get the word out.

jcitybone

Actually I think this article is good for us. Gets everything out in the open.

magsview

What’s bad for the Democratic party (or any party willing to pay him) is very, very, good for David Brock. They must be preparing to throw big money at him.

orlbucfan

Another Turd Way winner.

polarbear4

This should be illegal. He had to pledge to be a Dem. So he could get stabbed in the back or in the front?

polarbear4

This is only giving Bernie more power. pic.twitter.com/9TIrlqKwNo

— Matthew (@MatthewJohn666) April 16, 2019

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jcitybone

Actually that Times article wasn’t such a great look for her. Here’s how it begins.

In 2008, Neera Tanden, then a top aide on Hillary Clinton’s first presidential campaign, accompanied Mrs. Clinton to what was expected to be an easy interview at the Center for American Progress, the influential group founded by top Clinton aides. But Faiz Shakir, the chief editor of the think tank’s ThinkProgress website, asked Mrs. Clinton a question about the Iraq war, an issue dogging her candidacy because she had supported it.

Ms. Tanden responded by circling back to Mr. Shakir after the interview and, according to a person in the room, punching him in the chest.

“I didn’t slug him, I pushed him,” a still angry Ms. Tanden corrected in a recent interview.

Leu2500
Leu2500

I love how she thinks pushing is acceptable physical contact. Must be a Biden supporter.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Woo hoo! Bernie’s getting positive coverage on morning joe for his fox town hall.

jcitybone

Just saw this appeared above. I’ll leave it here with different quotes

Must read. Look at what candidate shows up at the What to Do About Bernie dinners.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

“There’s a growing realization that Sanders could end up winning this thing, or certainly that he stays in so long that he damages the actual winner,” said David Brock, the liberal organizer, who said he has had discussions with other operatives about an anti-Sanders campaign and believes it should commence “sooner rather than later.”

But to some veterans of the still-raw 2016 primary, a heavy-handed intervention may only embolden him and his fervent supporters.

R.T. Rybak, the former Minneapolis mayor who was vice chairman of the Democratic National Committee in 2016, complained bitterly about the party’s tilt toward Mrs. Clinton back then, and warned that it would backfire if his fellow mainstream Democrats “start with the idea that you’re trying to stop somebody.”

Mr. Brock, who supported Mrs. Clinton’s past presidential bids, said “the Bernie question comes up in every fund-raising meeting I do.” Steven Rattner, a major Democratic Party donor, said the topic is discussed “endlessly” in his orbit, and among Democratic leaders it is becoming hard to block out.

The matter of What To Do About Bernie and the larger imperative of party unity has, for example, hovered over a series of previously undisclosed Democratic dinners in New York and Washington organized by the longtime party financier Bernard Schwartz. The gatherings have included scores from the moderate or center-left wing of the party, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi; Senator Chuck Schumer, the majority leader; former Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia; Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., himself a presidential candidate; and the president of the Center for American Progress, Neera Tanden.

Leu2500
Leu2500

We both noticed.

jcitybone

Though I have to say I’m a little suspicious of why the NY Time’s source mentioned only Mayor Pete’s name along with Pelosi, Schumer, McCauliff, and Tanden. Was he really the only presidential candidate who has been to these meetings? I have a feeling the source wants to stir up Bernie supporters against Pete to protect their real bestie. Harris? Biden? I doubt establishment Dems’ top choice is going to be a 37 year old gay Midwestern small city mayor.

Pete in the race hurts other more establishment candidates way more than he does Bernie. I don’t think we should take the bait that was laid in an article that’s sure to be catnip to Bernie supporters.

Leu2500
Leu2500

I don’t think Pete is their first choice. I think he’s their stalking horse.

jcitybone

They have to be careful though that the stalking horse doesn’t trample the prospects of the “thoroughbred” they have stashed in the stable.

jcitybone

In the latest Morning Consult poll (pretty much the same as last week), we do get to see who Mayor Pete’s voters top three second choice are. (He is now in fifth place just above Warren so the poll shows this for the first time). As I suspected here’s who he takes most votes from:
Kamala Harris
21%
Joe Biden
17%
Beto O’Rourke
17%

What is most striking is that Bernie and Biden voters second choice is very much each other. 32% of Biden voters would pick Bernie (Harris is at 11%). 31% of Bernie voters would pick Biden. (Warren is at 16%). Shows you how voter’s choices are not just made ideologically.

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

polarbear4

I don’t know. Mayor Pete is very popular among Hillary types and others. He’s got that positive go get them America attitude that so many love. And he’s accomplished.

jcitybone

I think the fear of a brokered convention is overblown. It’s possible but really unlikely with the 15% threshold for delegates. Most of these candidates will get no delegates early on and will drop out for lack of funding. It will soon come down to three or four, and then probably just two. If Bernie is the clear leader in delegates going to the convention, but is somewhat below a majority, and somehow the establishment Dems use superdelegates to defeat him, say hello to President Trump in 2020.

Torabs
Torabs

I don’t share your optimism, unfortunately. If things stay as they currently are, 3-4 candidates could make the 15% threshold in multiple states, plus you’ll have situations where a candidate does well enough in their home state to draw delegates (Booker, Beto and Buttigieg in particular). I’m still of the mind that Bernie needs a clean win to get over the top.

And does anybody doubt the establishment’s willingness to play dirty at the convention? Bear in mind, these people would rather lose to Trump than let progressives win (see:2016).

Leu2500
Leu2500
Leu2500
Leu2500

Jane Kleeb, chair of the Nebraska Dem Party on the article:

As a Chair of State Party, I am troubled about reported “secret” meetings. Please fellow leaders, make it public now you are not planning a “stop Bernie” effort. Let voters decide and get behind the nominee. As Dem leaders, we are better than this. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

Leu2500
Leu2500

Link to Bernie’s fec report. https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/P60007168/?cycle=2020&election_full=false

You can check out other candidates that you are interested into. Just put their name in the search box on the left.

Leu2500
Leu2500
Leu2500
Leu2500
Leu2500
Leu2500

Tweet from krugman on his column today.

Today’s column tries, among other things, to make the point that Republicans are way to the right of the public on economic issues, and even most Democrats may be a bit to the right 1/ https://nyti.ms/2KCtB2X

A bit?

magsview

Thanks Leu! You’re on fire this morning. 🙂

jcitybone

Bernie's mastery of message-discipline — i.e., his ability to find his way back to his talking points without a moment's awkwardness, self-consciousness or shame — seems like a real asset. #BernieTownHall

— Eric Levitz (@EricLevitz) April 15, 2019

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Leu2500
Leu2500
jcitybone

From Ben Cohen

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/16/theres-nothing-wrong-being-successful-bernie-never-said-there-was

Leading up to Tax Day, the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy reported that under Trump’s new tax plan the number of corporations paying effectively zero in taxes, or even less than zero, had doubled. Let me repeat that. Huge billion dollar corporations like Amazon, Netflix, and pharmaceutical manufacturer Eli Lilly are not paying any taxes. And Trump’s tax plan is making it worse.

But instead of covering the real story—how the wealthy and large corporations shift the cost of running our country onto those who can afford it least—the headlines read, “Bernie Sanders’ tax returns reveal he’s a millionaire!” Pundits called him a “hypocrite” and a few even defended the billionaires who Bernie has criticized, saying that “Getting rich is not a form of theft.”

There’s nothing wrong with being successful. Bernie never said there was. The problem is that some corporations and the ultra-wealthy are using their outsized influence to subvert our one-person, one-vote democracy and tilt the playing field further in their favor.

Right now, we have a profoundly greedy and irresponsible president who sees the world plainly in terms of us vs. them and winners vs. losers. A Sanders presidency would be a win-win for our country. He understands that by harmonizing the interests of businesses, workers, and government we can bring about a sense of shared purpose, mutual responsibility, and lasting prosperity for all.

jcitybone

It’s Ezra Klein doing hope and change and Obama, but here’s a couple of interesting parts.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2019/4/16/18310769/pete-buttigieg-barack-obama-2020-presidential-announcement-hope-primary-democrats

You can see the yearning in Joe Biden’s persistent lead in the polls. Biden’s popularity frustrates lefties who think him insufficiently progressive and liberals who see him as an out-of-touch white guy. But Biden knows that a lot of his supporters aren’t really supporting him. They’re supporting Obama by supporting him. An Associated Press story on Biden’s planning suggests channeling this longing will form the foundation of his campaign:

Joe Biden is finalizing the framework for a White House campaign that would cast him as an extension of Barack Obama’s presidency and political movement. He’s betting that the majority of Democratic voters are eager to return to the style and substance of that era — and that they’ll view him as the best option to lead the way back.

Biden’s weakness is that temperamentally, demographically, and stylistically, he’s not that much like Obama. He was brought onto Obama’s ticket to add balance, to offer reassurance. If you looked at Obama and saw too much change too fast, you could look at Biden and see a familiar face.

As Rebecca Traister wrote, “Biden’s role has been to comfort the lost, prized, and most fondly imagined Democratic voter, the one who’s like him: that guy in the diner, that guy in Ohio, that guy who’s white and so put off by the changed terms of gendered and racial power in this country that decades ago he fled for the party that was working to roll back the social advancements that had robbed him of his easy hold on power.”

This is where Buttigieg has found an opening.

As a result, some liberals resent Buttigieg for representing a status quo that frustrates them. To them, the rapturous reception he has received, particularly as more qualified female candidates like Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand struggle, shows not how much has changed, but just how much has stayed the same.

“Yes, Pete Buttigieg is a gay man, and that’s a big deal!” wrote Filipovic. “But it’s not a slur to say that he’s a white man. Is he a white man in the exactly same mold as every other previous white male president? No. But being gay doesn’t make him not-white or not-male.”

Another challenge for Buttigieg is that Obama didn’t win just by impressing openness-minded liberals. He won by building a coalition between them and black voters. As of yet, there’s little evidence of Buttigieg breaking through among nonwhite voters — and, notably, nonwhite voters aren’t as sorted by the openness dimension between the parties, so the messages that work for white liberals in New Hampshire often fall flat with black churchgoers in South Carolina.

polarbear4

Yikes. We knew it already, but apparently it’s out in the open now. I have a firewall, so I can’t read it, but it looks interesting.

MEETINGS BY DEMOCRATIC PARTY CONSPIRING TO STOP BERNIE SANDERS ATTENDED BY THE FOLLOWING:
Nancy Pelosi; Senator Chuck Schumer, the majority leader; former Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia; MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG https://t.co/NwcDlxth7T

— Rodney Latstetter (@proviewsusa) April 16, 2019

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Leu2500
Leu2500

Scroll thru comments. A lot of it is excerpted.

polarbear4

Oops. I usually read through the comments before I post, but I got so excited I just posted! LOL Thanks.

jcitybone

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/16/pete-buttigieg-democrats-flavour-month

For being the mayor of the 4th-largest city in Indiana, Pete Buttigieg has been shockingly successful in carving out a national political profile. Buttigieg has only just formally announced that he is running for president, but already he is placing near the top of some polls, and being given cover stories in national magazines, touted as a “wonder boy” and the “Democrats’ heartland hope.” But for all the buzz, an important question still hangs over Buttigieg: what, exactly does he stand for?

Himself, mostly. The New York Times says Buttigieg puts “storytelling first, policy details later.” Media coverage of Buttigieg dwells on what his favorite socks are or his dogs’ personalities. Pete is all about Pete: Buttigieg is frequently evasive about his actual substantive agenda, preferring rhetoric about “freedom,” “democracy,” and “security.” His campaign’s branding and graphic design have been hailed as “radical.” As for his actual policies … he’s working on them.

Buttigieg represents the apex of a kind of “politics of demographics.” Why is the mayor of a small city suddenly on the national political radar? It’s not as if Buttigieg’s tenure in office has been especially noteworthy—his signature policies were technocratic improvements like improving sewer technology along with some fairly middle-of-the road, even conservative, development initiatives. Buttigieg is not attracting attention for anything he has done, but for who he is. He’s a man who checks all the right boxes.

But politics shouldn’t be about people’s attributes, it should be about their values and actions. Pete Buttigieg is a man with a lot of “gold stars” on his résumé, but why should anybody actually trust him to be on their side? (Amusingly enough, in his campaign book Shortest Way Home, Buttigieg describes an incident in which a voter asked him how he could prove that he wasn’t just another self-serving politician. Buttigieg couldn’t come up with an answer.) The available evidence of his character is thin. Has he spent a lifetime sticking up for working people? No, he worked at McKinsey before he entered politics. Has he taken courageous moral stands? No: while Gary, Indiana declared itself a sanctuary city in response to Donald Trump’s immigration policies, Pete’s city of South Bend did not.

In fact, for progressives there are very concerning signs about Pete Buttigieg. After Israel massacred Palestinian protesters, Buttigieg appeared to pin the blame on Palestinians. He has professed himself “troubled” by the clemency Barack Obama granted to Chelsea Manning, even though Manning is a national hero who was tortured after blowing the whistle on US government crimes. He has called for “democratic capitalism,” the same phrase used by Bill Clinton and the Democratic Leadership Council in the 80s as a euphemism for corporate-friendly neoliberalism. When his words aren’t vacuous, they’re troubling.

Pete Buttigieg’s pitch embodies what Luke Savage has called the “West Wing view” of politics: the idea that the best candidates for high office are the “smart” ones who went to elite schools and have a wonkish command of the facts.

Leu2500
Leu2500

This could have something to do with it.

The matter of What To Do About Bernie and the larger imperative of party unity has, for example, hovered over a series of previously undisclosed Democratic dinners in New York and Washington organized by the longtime party financier Bernard Schwartz. The gatherings have included scores from the moderate or center-left wing of the party, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi; Senator Chuck Schumer, the majority leader; former Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia; Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., himself a presidential candidate; and the president of the Center for American Progress, Neera Tanden.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

Read thru comments for more on this article.

jcitybone

Explain that to Joe Crowley

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-a-glass-of-water-with-d-next-to-it-would-win-ocasio-cortezs-district

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., on Monday made a point to heap more praise on Democrats who flipped Republican seats in the 2018 midterms and downplayed representatives like herself and freshman Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., who carried districts where a “glass of water” with a “D” next to it could win.

“When we won this election, it wasn’t in districts like mine or Alexandria’s,” Pelosi said. “[S]he’s a wonderful member of Congress as I think all of our colleagues will attest. But those are districts that are solidly Democratic.”

To drive the point home she picked up a water glass next to her and said: “This glass of water would win with a ‘D’ next to its name in those districts.”

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

Problem with Joe C, he was only 1/2 a glass.

jcitybone

Excellent Bernie tv spot about the problems with underfunding the IRS

Republicans and the wealthiest Americans have worked to cut the IRS to benefit themselves. This is what a rigged economy and political system looks like. pic.twitter.com/KDW5h9BhrU

— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) April 16, 2019

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OzoneTom
OzoneTom

This is what “drowning government in the bathtub” looks like.

jcitybone

I’m not sure if this was mentioned over the weekend

Q) Who are you supporting in 2020?

Cardi B: "I'ma always go with @BernieSanders. Bernie don't say things to be cool. There's pictures of him being an activist from a very, very, very long time." pic.twitter.com/FRJKPJCiSp

— Waleed Shahid (@_waleedshahid) April 15, 2019

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The rapper, who has 42.8 million followers on Instagram and 5.6 million followers on Twitter, has been vocal about her political views.

jcitybone

Actually pretty positive from WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/16/bernie-sanders-exchange-fox-highlights-big-trump-vulnerability/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.92cb61aaf013&utm_source=reddit.com

Only hours after President Trump’s agitated Twitter thumbs announced a new immigration policy that appears to be imaginary — he tweeted that migrants will now be dumped into Democratic strongholds, even though there are zero indications this will happen — Bernie Sanders went on Fox News and popped the right wing bubble from the inside.

The independent Senator from Vermont informed the Fox audience on Monday night that Trump’s tax cut handed an enormous giveaway to the ultra-rich — and argued for progressive taxation, an expansion of Social Security, tuition free college, and health care for all Americans as a right.

This juxtaposition foreshadows a big-picture contrast that we’ll likely be seeing a lot more of during the campaign — one that, if Democrats proceed correctly, could end up playing very much in their favor.

More broadly, Sanders’ appearance illustrated that progressive economic arguments can be marshaled powerfully against Trump’s economic record. Sanders argued that Trump misled the country by claiming his tax cut wasn’t a huge boon to top earners. He indicted our “absurd” tax code for its deep unfairness, as evidenced by many major corporations paying nothing, which Sanders rightly noted Trump made worse. He made a strong case for an expanded safety net and universal health care.

The Fox hosts appeared to believe that arguments about Sanders’ personal wealth somehow constituted pushback to all this, but I suspect this is symptomatic of the right wing media bubble effect and that progressive arguments will have more resonance for swing voters. (For what it’s worth, the audience repeatedly cheered Sanders at unexpected moments.)

Obviously, Democrats have a bruising intra-party battle to get through, and some will argue that Sanders’ democratic socialism will make it harder to win this economic argument with Trump, while others will argue that a more centrist nominee will not be able to prosecute that argument successfully.

My point here is just that unadulterated progressive economic arguments made a strong showing in what was expected to be hostile political territory. Meanwhile, it’s not clear Trump even thinks he needs to seriously engage the economic argument, and may believe he can hate-tweet his way to reelection.

polarbear4

Wow, already over 200,000 views since last night!
Town Hall with Bernie Sanders | Part 1 https://t.co/o61iv1oXru via @YouTube

— WindSun (@mywindsun) April 16, 2019

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polarbear4

DeMoro gets snarky Who does the picture remind you of?

Can’t wait to see the next candidate the corporate #Democrats put up to entertain & distract us in an effort to try and kill the #Bernie2020 ‘s progressive agenda.

The #MSM is embarrassing.#BernieTownHall #TuesdayMotivation pic.twitter.com/FidT5Ewj0V

— RoseAnn DeMoro (@RoseAnnDeMoro) April 16, 2019

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humphrey

I am going to repeat this tweet as it is worth viewing.😁

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jcitybone

I guess Bernie’s appearance was a hit

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/439088-buttigieg-fox-news-in-talks-on-town-hall

Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg is in talks with Fox News about appearing in a town hall event on the network, a campaign spokesperson told The Hill on Tuesday.

The spokesperson, speaking a day after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) appeared on a Fox town hall, told The Hill that “reaching out to the Fox audience is something we intend to do.”

humphrey

I don’t expect that he would have the same impact as Bernie but let him try.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Guess the “seat to do about Bernie” caucus had an emergency meeting.

The matter of What To Do About Bernie and the larger imperative of party unity has, for example, hovered over a series of previously undisclosed Democratic dinners in New York and Washington organized by the longtime party financier Bernard Schwartz. The gatherings have included scores from the moderate or center-left wing of the party, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi; Senator Chuck Schumer, the minority leader; former Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia; Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., himself a presidential candidate; and the president of the Center for American Progress, Neera Tanden.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

Leu2500
Leu2500

What, not seat.

jcitybone

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2019/apr/16/bernie-sanders-appeal-cheering-fox-news

Bernie Sanders was supposed to be deep behind enemy lines on Monday night. He was in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, for a live town hall, hosted by Fox News, a network “not everyone thought [he] should come on”. It was a resounding success, and a reminder that Bernie, not Trump, can actually rally together a majority of Americans.

The Fox News moderators Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum didn’t figure that out at first. Early on Baier asked those in the audience with employer-sponsored health insurance to raise their hands. Then he asked those among them who would be willing to switch to government-run health insurance to raise their hands. The hands stayed up, the crowd cheered.

Bernie Sanders didn’t shift his rhetoric to the right to accommodate his hosts, or what many would assume to be the preconceptions of his audience. Instead, he was simply Bernie. Straightforward, honest and pivoting brilliantly to his strongest talking points.

But it’s not simply enough to say that we all deserve nice things. Sanders was keen to remind the audience that we’d have to go up against a powerful political establishment, against big corporations and against the military-industrial complex to reshape the United States. He provided, in other words, an object of scorn, a proper place to direct anger – not other bullied people, but those benefiting from oppression and exploitation.

Sanders wasn’t speaking to Fox News, he wasn’t speaking to a “red state” crowd, he was speaking to a progressive majority that exists everywhere – from the country’s large cities (home, mostly, to working people not “coastal elites”) to its rural heartland – and it showed.

jcitybone

Trump noticed

https://deadline.com/2019/04/donald-trump-sean-hannity-attack-bernie-sanders-town-hall-fox-news-channel-1202596717/

President Donald Trump and his lieutenant/Fox New “opinion” host Sean Hannity launched a full-scale attack on Monday’s Fox News Channel town hall with lead Dem White House hopeful Bernie Sanders Tuesday morning. Sanders is, in polling and fundraising, the clear Dem front-runner to date.

“So weird to watch Crazy Bernie on @FoxNews,” Trump tweeted, echoing the Democratic National Committee’s thinking when it ixnayed FNC’s bid to carry any of its 2020 presidential candidates debates.

“Not surprisingly, @BretBaier and the ‘audience’ was so smiley and nice,” Trump sneered, putting “audience” in quotes to signal it was staged and they were actors while also once again making clear his disdain for FNC’s dayside journalists.

“Very strange, and now we have @donnabrazile?” Trump complained, having apparently not read the memo of a month ago that Fox News had signed the Dem strategist/former DNC chair as a commentator – and telling-ly using “we” in his complaint.

Warming up Trump’s base for his morning tweet, Fox News primetime star Hannity attacked his employer’s town hall.

“We turn our attention to our Hannity Watch on the radical socialist Democratic Party. Heading into the 2020 election, we saw Crazy Bernie on the air tonight,” Hannity snarked. “Phew! That was hard to watch! Bernie Sanders for two hours – Wow!”

Summarizing the town hall, moderated by Baier and Martha MacCallum, Hannity snickered, “Gee, let’s hear every communist idea we possibly can!”

Leu2500
Leu2500

They aren’t going to like AOC going to KY either. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1118181129213943815

orlbucfan

Orange imbecile really is dumber than a rock! Hope the nation makes it through the next two years.

jcitybone

Even the Atlantic, an anti-Bernie hotbed, was largely positive

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/sanders-fox-news/587239/

On Monday night, Fox News aired a town hall with Bernie Sanders, a front-runner in the 2020 Democratic primaries. The self-described “democratic socialist” took a risk appearing on the populist-right network. It paid off.

Overall, the senator from Vermont set forth several of his platform’s most popular planks, avoided gaffes, and answered almost every question to audience applause.

Still, he stepped into one of the more significant filter bubbles that divide red from blue America. He was decent in his manner, pleading for comity, embracing universalist rather than identitarian language, decrying racial injustice and anti-Muslim demagoguery, and mincing no words in correctly labeling Trump a pathological liar. His strengths outshone his flaws in front of a TV audience that many Democrats have a hard time reaching, having written it off as deplorable, if not irredeemable. He showed other Democratic candidates the way forward and warmed up the Fox audience to left-wing ideas.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Still flogging this dead horse.

Sanders was at his most disappointing when he touted A popular subsidy that would disproportionately benefit relative elites (free college tuition);was vague about how he intends to pay for his agenda; and explained why he has opposed so many free-trade agreements, which is to say, policies that increase the size of the economic pie, helping the United States afford more social-welfare spending. He sometimes impugned the motives of those who challenge the practical viability of his proposals, as if they’re all just bought-off shills

The elites aren’t sending their kids to public colleges. They’ll still go to Harvard, etc.

Actually, the part I found most disappointing was Bernie on the southern border. It was weak, poorly thought out. There’s a much better case to be made.

And I wish he had used more facts & figures. As when what’s her name was plugging nuclear power as a “zero emissions” solution. (Zero carbon emissions, maybe. But watch out for the gamma rays.) and saying that the air is worse in VT since they shutdown the nuclear reactor (I think it was retired due to age, and it’s not economically feasible to build them anymore, with wind & solar so much cheaper. See Germany) But I know that when it comes to fitting 6 or more events into 4 days v. Spending those 4 days cramming, he’ll take the events.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Jacobin noticed this too. https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/bernie-sanders-immigrant-rights-border-policy

When Bernie is asked about open borders, his response should be something like this: “Wrong question. In the last three decades, we have nearly quintupled the size of our Border Patrol and built hundreds of miles of border wall — a measure, by the way, that I voted against in 2006. In doing so, we have militarized the border beyond recognition, which has caused thousands of migrant deaths in the desert and harmed millions in borderlands communities — people who have told me that they don’t want to live in a police state, and don’t want to be cut off from their Mexican sister cities to which they have such deep, long-standing ties. We have Trump today in part because we have had decades of scapegoating undocumented immigrants for the harms caused by an economy and government controlled by the 1 percent for their exclusive benefit.

The crisis at the border today is a humanitarian one, especially impacting Central Americans. We must demilitarize the border and ensure that it is open to asylum seekers fleeing economic devastation and violence — a situation created by our country’s dreadful policies in Central America and, increasingly, the realities of global warming.

“Mexico is our next-door neighbor. It is immoral and hypocritical to suddenly say that Mexicans, our neighbors, are not welcome here — especially since US business has long relied on recruiting and exploiting Mexican migrant labor. People say that Mexicans should come legally. Do you know how many years a Mexican relative of US citizen has to wait to do that? Mexicans need legal ways to migrate so they can reunite with their families.

Throughout American history, immigrant workers have been at the forefront of the struggle for all workers’ rights. I proudly stand with them in that fight.”

Virginia Lawler
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My vote “up” for this followed Humphrey’s just now, & the tally does show both our names. BUT evenso it registers just “1”. Hope someone can fix that… soon…not for me but for a correct count both wanted & needed re opinions expressed for any and every post. A ton of thanks to jcitybone for posting this. Hhmm…maybe the poster doesn’t get a tally re total number??–I’m very new to this! Anyway, also thanks to The Atlantic both for allocating its space to cover what was truly a fabulous event for Bernie and for such a balanced, comprehensive, positive (except re Trump–yea!) comment!

humphrey

The latest impact of one of the “dime a dozen” candidates trying to stop Bernie.

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Bernie Sanders Calls Out Hypocrisy of the So-Called ‘Center For American Progress’.

polarbear4

Now. 10:17 a.m. PST

.@RoKhanna is doing an Ask Me Anything on the Bernie Sanders subreddit.

Drop by and ask him a question!#Bernie2020https://t.co/XB6KDgh2su

— NY For Sanders #Bernie2020 (@NYforSanders) April 16, 2019

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humphrey

With regards to the NY times article concerning Neera Tanden mentioned earlier.

It appears as if Neera was not impressed as she retweets plenty of supporters comments. LOL

polarbear4

Krugman is gone for good. Bummer. I used to really like him.

jcitybone

It was an amazingly unflattering article coming from the Times.

polarbear4

The conspiracies, they run deep.

What is wrong with people? https://t.co/mqbsM6aMk8

— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) April 16, 2019

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jcitybone

Kos spins away. Bernie went up from 33 to 40. Pete went up from 18 to 21. Pete was impressive, but Bernie had that online machine. 😒Curses, they weren’t fooled by moving the poll to Monday from Tuesday. It’s a four person race in which Bernie has about as many votes as the next three combined.

Mayor Pete Buttigieg solidified his hold on second place this week, improving on his strong showing from the previous straw poll to come in at 21%,” said Moulitsas. “Meanwhile, Sens. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris maintain their consistent presence in what has become a four-person race, finishing at 40%, 12%, and 9%, respectively.”

Bernie’s online machine rebounded, after an off week two weeks ago. Mayor Pete is continuing to grow at the expense of everyone else except Warren, who is holding rock-steady with her support.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Mayor Pete doesn’t have a machine backing him?

The matter of What To Do About Bernie and the larger imperative of party unity has, for example, hovered over a series of previously undisclosed Democratic dinners in New York and Washington organized by the longtime party financier Bernard Schwartz. The gatherings have included scores from the moderate or center-left wing of the party, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi; Senator Chuck Schumer, the minority leader; former Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia; Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., himself a presidential candidate; and the president of the Center for American Progress, Neera Tanden

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

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magsview

The two yahoos on Erin Burnett’s program last night laughed with Erin about Bernie’s 26% tax rate, one saying, “He must not have a very good accountant!”.

One guest then put on a ‘serious face’ and said that socialism destroys wealth..

humphrey

Leu2500
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Leu2500
Leu2500

3 more campaigns are considering appearing on Fox, because bernie’s Ratings were so good.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-sanders-fox-news-town-hall-was-a-ratings-smash-as-pete-buttigieg-and-other-democrats-consider-one/

Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-VT) Monday evening Fox News town-hall event was the most-watched town-hall event of the 2020 campaign thus far, according to early Nielsen data. And at least three other Democratic candidates are open to participating in one of their own.

According to early Nielsen data, more than 2.5 million viewers tuned in to hear Sanders, a self-described “democratic socialist,” make his case on Fox News during the 6:30pm hour, prior to primetime. That total viewership bested CNN’s Bernie Sanders town-hall event from back in February; and it doubled MSNBC’s during the same time period on Monday evening, and nearly tripled CNN’s.

The prior town-hall ratings record for the 2020 cycle was a CNN-hosted event with Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), which drew 1.95 million total viewers.

Additionally, per Nielsen, Fox’s Sanders event brought in 489,000 viewers between the ages of 25 and 54—a key demographic for cable-news advertisers—trouncing CNN’s 281,000 tally and MSNBC’s 208,000.

It gets better & better.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Jacobin on CAP. https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/center-for-american-progress-tanden-israel-omar

a research institution, CAP regularly holds both private and public discussions on a variety of topics — including America’s approaches to foreign policy,” a CAP spokesperson told Jewish Currents over email, noting that the group hosted Ilhan Omar in February and that the AIPAC-Herzog event “was just one in a series we have hosted on Middle East policy, including a recent public event on the Trump administration’s approach to Palestine.” A representative for AIPAC did not respond to a request for comment.

CAP was conceived in the early 2000s by former Clinton administration officials as the Democratic Party’s answer to explicitly right-wing think tanks like the Cato Institute, the American Enterprise Institute, and the Heritage Foundation. CAP’s sister organization, the CAP Action Fund, with which it shares staff, is a 501(c)4 advocacy group that engages in more explicit lobbying work and houses the ThinkProgress blog and newsroom, which ostensibly operate independently of CAP. Taken as a unit, CAP and its Action Fund comprise the largest institution of liberal policy thought inside the Beltway, and its alumni can be found all across Democratic offices on Capitol Hill and in the ranks of Democratic 2020 presidential campaigns.

Though much of CAP’s funding has come from philanthropic sources with conventionally liberal profiles — for example, George Soros, the Sandler Foundation, and the Ford Foundation — the institution has long faced criticism from the Left over its corporate funding sources and the close proximity of its leadership to the Democratic establishment. CAP’s chief executive, Neera Tanden, and its board chairman, John Podesta — both Clinton administration alumni — were senior advisers to Hillary Clinton throughout her failed 2016 presidential campaign.

And on issues related to the Middle East, CAP has worked hand-in-hand with right-wingers and representatives of illiberal governments, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. In recent years, such governments have increasingly relied on funding think tanks like CAP as part of their lobbying efforts in Washington.

And David Sirota has a take from his time there. https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1118190284393697282?s=20

jcitybone

https://theweek.com/articles/835476

What matters here is the method by which politicians and ex-politicians capitalize on that fame.

For instance, the usual buckraking speech tour of big Wall Street banks that ex-politicians routinely carry out is objectionable because of corruption. Do bankers really care about hearing some probably platitudinous 40-minute speech? No, they are paying for access to potential future senators and presidents, and to create the reward pathway of banker-friendly politicos getting plausibly-deniable bribes if they govern the way bankers want.

Leftists and even liberals like Matt Yglesias argued that Barack Obama should not have taken a $400,000 fee to speak at the bond firm Cantor Fitzgerald because it undermines the legitimacy of his (incredibly banker-friendly) bailout record. “Did you really avoid breaking up the big banks because you thought it would undermine financial stability, or were you on the take?” writes Yglesias. But nobody cared about the much larger $65 million book advance Obama got, because there isn’t some Big Reader lobby that is pushing for book subsidies or something.

Still, there is something peculiar in the notion that only personally impoverished people can hold leftist views — as if one can’t be a critic of capitalism and own an iPhone. The effect is to foreclose any realistic leftist politics, since poor people have zero political power — and as we have seen, anyone who becomes a national figure becomes rich almost automatically. Of course, wealth often does influence someone’s views, but it’s not determinative — the most egalitarian president in American history, Franklin Roosevelt, was a scion of extreme wealth and privilege, far richer than Sanders will ever be.

jcitybone

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bernie-s-campaign-hits-back-anti-sanders-dems-fundraising-email-n995066

The gloves are officially off.

Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign hit back Tuesday at anti-Sanders Democrats in a fundraising email that followed a New York Times story on how they were agonizing over the possibility of him winning the party’s presidential nomination.

That followed an earlier battle between Sanders, I-Vt., and the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank with strong ties to the Clintons, in which the Vermont senator accused CAP of smearing progressive candidates. That back-and-forth is a microcosm of the long-running feud between Clinton allies and the Sanders operation that stretches back to the 2016 cycle.

The fundraising email included an image of the Times’ headline, which read, “‘Stop Sanders’ Democrats Are Agonizing Over His Momentum.” Sanders’ campaign manager Faiz Shakir wrote: “The Democratic establishment and high-dollar donors are already planning how to stop our campaign. They are terrified of our movement — as they should be.”

“But we cannot underestimate what they will do to try to take us down,” the email continued.

“This isn’t just an attack on Bernie. It’s an attack on all of us — on everything our movement stands for,” it added.

In a separate email to supporters, Shakir addressed the Times’ story, saying, “Here comes the kitchen sink.”

jcitybone

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/439098-biden-shot-a-secret-campaign-ad-ahead-of-presidential-announcement-report

Former Vice President Joe Biden secretly shot a Spanish-language campaign ad over the weekend ahead of an expected 2020 presidential campaign launch, according to Politico.

Although actors reportedly signed nondisclosure agreements (NDAs), images of the commercial, which was shot in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., found their way onto social media.

Politico reported that the social media posts prompted warnings of legal liabilities from a group acting as an intermediary between the actors and Biden’s staff. The group speculated that the images originated with mothers who recorded their children while the ad was being filmed.

polarbear4

Why actors? Oh yeah, he’s a phony.

Leu2500
Leu2500

Do we really want Mother president who has NDAs?

Leu2500
Leu2500

About that $6.1M Beto raised….

Ms. Harris raised the second highest amount, $12 million. And despite Mr. Sanders’s advantages, Mr. O’Rourke’s campaign touted, loudly, that he actually had out-raised Mr. Sanders in his first 24 hours as a candidate: $6.1 million to $6 million. But the new federal disclosures show that Mr. O’Rourke relied upon a bit of accounting finesse to score that headline: Nearly $300,000 of his first-day haul was actually general-election funds raised above the limit that he can spend in the primary contest.

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Ms. Harris raised $4.2 million of her total haul from donations of less than $200, after spending the last two years building a powerful email fund-raising list, and $7.6 million from larger contributions, with a donor list flecked with famous names from Hollywood (J.J. Abrams and Ben Affleck) and the business world (Eli Broad and Sam Altman).

Of the nearly $9.4 million Mr. O’Rourke raised in less than three weeks, $3.8 million came from larger donors and $5.5 million came from those who gave less than $200.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/democrats-2020-fundraising.html

Leu2500
Leu2500

Staffing. Early voting starts in CA the same day as the IA caucus. Then a primary caucus almost every week, with Super Tuesday & it’s 15 States 1 month later.

Ms. Warren’s report showed more than 160 people on payroll — nearly double that of Mr. Sanders, even as he raised three times as much as her. Ms. Harris, the No. 2 fund-raiser, had 44 people on staff. Ms. Warren spent nearly $1.9 million on salaries, payroll taxes and insurance in the first quarter.

polarbear4

Affleck! Are used to think he was awoke. No wonderJennifer left him. haha

humphrey

An evening Open thread has been posted.

polarbear4

Thank you 🙏🦜🙏

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