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Don midwest
Don midwest

morning thoughts and linkages

i heard a little of Chomsky on democracynow and he mentioned the trillions of dollars taken by corporations which is causing social unrest, and Gaia’s intrusion, and how increasingly bottom up global movements are going to be acting outside the states. This is the second part of a long Chomsky interview and can be found on democracynow website. Only tiny bit mentioned here.

Next, BookTV is showing many shows now that congress is not in session. A book “In The cauldron: Terror Tension and the American Ambassador’s attempt to avoid Pearl Harbor.” Ambassador tried to get meeting with Roosevelt but he was focused on Germany. Lots and lots of discussion of DIPLOMACY.

Diplomacy involves being with the other

we are not dealing with “the other” a virus

this led me to look up a little about Lynn Margulis who worked with James Lovelock on Gaia. This looks like diplomacy over conflict. maybe even socialism over capitalism. but socialism++ an augmented version of socialism. The C programming language developed at Bell Labs where I once worked, now is an important programming language as C++.

from wikipedia I added the bold

Symbiosis as evolutionary force

Margulis opposed competition-oriented views of evolution, stressing the importance of symbiotic or cooperative relationships between species.[8]

She later formulated a theory that proposed symbiotic relationships between organisms of different phyla or kingdoms as the driving force of evolution, and explained genetic variation as occurring mainly through transfer of nuclear information between bacterial cells or viruses and eukaryotic cells.[8] Her organelle genesis ideas are now widely accepted, but the proposal that symbiotic relationships explain most genetic variation is still something of a fringe idea.[8]

Margulis also held a negative view of certain interpretations of Neo-Darwinism that she felt were excessively focused on competition between organisms, as she believed that history will ultimately judge them as comprising “a minor twentieth-century religious sect within the sprawling religious persuasion of Anglo-Saxon Biology.”[8] She wrote that proponents of the standard theory “wallow in their zoological, capitalistic, competitive, cost-benefit interpretation of Darwin – having mistaken him … Neo-Darwinism, which insists on [the slow accrual of mutations by gene-level natural selection], is in a complete funk.”[8]

Gaia hypothesis

Bruno Latour has spent much time on this, and rather than put more in from wikipedia, here is one observations

life does not exist in an environment, life creates its own environment

that is a bottom up position

Margulis was bottom up – bacteria and other life created oxygen, and Lovelock was top down, from atmosphere of Mars to earth. Together they were an effective team.

Changing topics: Here is a long, complex article recommended by Naked Capitalism who said pull up a cup of coffee to read this

I am doing that but it is tough going. I am linking it here because there is a lot of hype about a vaccine for corona virus. Author says that a world record speed was 5 years for an Ebola vaccine. Typically vaccine take 10 years or longer. Moderna is a company. This shows the level of the article. Lots of intelligent comments – a discussion not rants

Coronavirus Vaccine Prospects
By Derek Lowe 15 April, 2020

To that point, one reason that the Moderna vaccine got off the mark so quickly is that the mRNA route can be intrinsically faster, but a bigger reason is the step of seeing how well it works in animals was entirely skipped, a very unusual step indeed. That’s partly because it’s still unclear which animal model will be the most informative. We have a bit of a head start thanks to the work that’s been done on the earlier human coronavirus pathogens for SARS and MERS, but you may recall Monday’s post talking about how SARS and the nCoV-19 virus do show real differences in various tests (there are many lines of evidence for that). …..

orlbucfan

I read it too, Don. I also had to skip some of the lingo. We need widespread, free., and reliable testing here. We need it now, not later. A vaccine will take a year at the minimum to develop. The test(s) already exist. What’s the delay? The profit$$$ margin?

polarbear4

Don midwest
Don midwest

this is not going to be buried

Benny

Yes and gets the q’s ahead of time, plus no gotcha questions either. And he still comes across as a tired has been.