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WindDancer13

I posted this very early this morning in yesterday’s OT but wanted to make sure it was seen so here it is again.

From: https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/bfykb7/know_your_candidates/

Click for larger view. I did post a comment to the original poster that the N/A needs to be clarified as well as the wording “Pro-Israel/AIPAC” as they can be easily misconstrued.

Places where N/A is used to indicate that a candidate has not yet stated a position are a good start on what questions need to be asked to those candidates (cf the question on whistle blowers).

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Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

Thanks, I didn’t see this yesterday.

jcitybone

orlbucfan

Buttagag sounds like a doofus. He’s not getting my vote. ‘Love’ it–people like me who support the Bernster are the same as the MAGA yahoos supporting the imbecile. That’s called an insult, Pete. T and R, LD!!

WindDancer13

Did he just call us “deplorables”?

magsview

On twitter this morning, with Bernie/Trump trending, naysayers were saying, “Oh please, he didn’t compare Bernie to Trump! He compared Bernie’s supporters to Trump supporters”, as though that was somehow better. And I thought, why is it considered to be so okay that Bernie’s supporters are constantly being bashed?!

Even in 2015/2016 the incoming fire was worse for Bernie supporters rather than Bernie himself (not that there wasn’t plenty directed at Bernie too, of course).

humphrey

Well at least he is accomplishing something positive. /S

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/439613-buttigieg-steals-betos-thunder

Pete Buttigieg’s fast-rising 2020 presidential campaign is cutting into Beto O’Rourke’s viral mojo.

O’Rourke, the former Texas congressman who became a media phenomenon when he nearly toppled Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) last year, has been eclipsed in recent weeks by Buttigieg, the upstart South Bend, Ind., mayor who has won headline after headline and changed national perceptions about his candidacy.

As white men and two of the youngest candidates in the field, Buttigieg, 37, and O’Rourke, 46, are natural competitors.

Both candidates are seeking to convince Democrats that the party needs a generational change as they chase former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who are both in their 70s.

The polls have been largely steady in recent weeks for all the 2020 contenders except for Buttigieg, who has seen a notable rise and now ranks third in several polls, though behind Biden and Sanders.

jcitybone

Leu2500
OzoneTom
OzoneTom

The article in your link named Dana Milbank in the by-line, not Dan Balz.

A West Virginia woman sent a great LTE (Letter to the Editor) replying to the ridiculous proposition of the WP piece:
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/opinion/linda-childers-comparison-between-sanders-trump-off-base/article_b7ea865d-0f5d-5b66-bf0b-bd1720e7614c.html

jcitybone

Rep. Ilhan Omar, one of the most famous new Democrats in Congress, retweeted one of Bernie’s surrogates, Nina Turner, who defended the senator from Buttigieg’s remarks.

Torabs
Torabs

A dog whistle if I ever saw one.

jcitybone

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-student-debt.html

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, who has structured her presidential campaign around a steady unveiling of disruptive policy ideas, on Monday proposed her biggest one yet: a $1.25 trillion plan to reshape higher education by canceling most student loan debt and eliminating tuition at every public college.

Ms. Warren’s sweeping plan has several planks. She would pay for it with revenue generated by her proposed increase in taxes for America’s most wealthy families and corporations, which the campaign estimates to be $2.75 trillion over 10 years. In addition to eliminating undergraduate tuition at public colleges and universities, she would expand federal grants to help students with nontuition expenses and create a $50 billion fund to support historically black colleges and universities.

She would eliminate up to $50,000 in student loan debt for every person with a household income of less than $100,000; borrowers who make between $100,000 and $250,000 would have a portion of their debt forgiven.

“This touches people’s lives,” Ms. Warren said in an interview. “This is a chance to talk about what’s broken and how we fix it. This is the American dream.”

jcitybone

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/business/dealbook/elizabeth-warren-finance-executives.html

Prosecutions of finance executives related to the 2008 financial crisis were few and far between — and that has remained a persistent complaint about the government’s response to the meltdown.

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts has offered legislation that would make it easier to prosecute them with the Corporate Executive Accountability Act.

The challenge with charging corporate executives is that they are often insulated from the decisions that violate the law. That can make it difficult, if not impossible, for prosecutors to prove they have the requisite intent. The former head of the Justice Department’s criminal division, Lanny A. Breuer, has defended the lack of prosecutions. In a PBS “Frontline” special, he said, “When we cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was criminal intent, then we have a constitutional duty not to bring those cases.” Former Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. told a Senate committee that some banks had become so big that prosecuting them would have negatively affected the economy. In other words, they had become “too big to jail.”

Ms. Warren’s bill would make it easier for federal prosecutors to pursue charges against individuals by holding executives liable if they “negligently permit or fail to prevent a violation of law.” The government often uses statutes like mail and wire fraud to pursue criminal cases. Those laws, however, require proving the defendant’s intent to defraud, which is unlikely when a senior executive has little to do with the actual misconduct. The new provision would allow punishment if the executive were merely negligent in overseeing the enterprise, which means the person acted in an objectively unreasonable manner.

polarbear4

I hope Bernie adopts this or better yet, adopts her as Treasury Sec.

I am already grateful, just reading this—it would do so much to help my life, much less those less fortunate than me.

This would also help relieve the shame involved in not making use of an expensive education, too.

humphrey

One caution. Assuming that Bernie is successful in his run for the Presidency he would be wise to load his cabinet with outsiders. He will need all the support that he can gather from progressives who are presently in Congress.

magsview

wi61

Any President that would do that would stimulate various areas of the economy by freeing up graduates over all spending money

jcitybone

The more moderates the merrier.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/us/politics/seth-moulton-president.html

Representative Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, a third-term congressman who has pushed for a “new generation of leadership” in Washington, declared his candidacy for president on Monday, becoming the 19th candidate to enter the Democratic primary field.

“I’m running because I’m a patriot, because I believe in this country and because I’ve never wanted to sit on the sidelines when it comes to serving it,” Mr. Moulton said Monday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

Mr. Moulton, 40, garnered attention in November when he helped lead a group of rebellious Democrats who had sought to deny Speaker Nancy Pelosi the gavel in the new Congress. The effort was unsuccessful, and Mr. Moulton ultimately voted for Ms. Pelosi. His online biography paints him as something of a disrupter, noting that he was “the only Democrat to unseat an incumbent in a primary” in the House of Representatives when he was first elected in 2014.

Mr. Moulton, a Harvard-educated Marine veteran, has also focused on recruiting veterans to run for Congress as Democrats, including a handful who campaigned and won in 2018 promising not to back Ms. Pelosi.

orlbucfan

Ugh!

magsview

Enough already with these Harvard-educated veterans!

He’s maintained a relatively centrist voting record — voting with Trump about 20% of the time, is socially progressive but fiscally more conservative, and has the support of military leaders, including David Petraeus and Stanley McChrystal.

After being discharged from the Marines, Moulton earned a dual MBA and MPA from Harvard Business School and the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. Since joining Congress, he’s been active in helping recruit military veterans to run for office.

https://www.businessinsider.com/massachusetts-democrat-seth-moulton-announces-2020-presidential-bid-2019-1

humphrey

I assume he will get support from the MIC.

Torabs
Torabs

Another establishment hack trying to get 15% in his home state. The establishment has a funny way of resurrecting the 50-state strategy in primary season.

Don midwest
Don midwest

AOC Green New Deal Video, Art, Bruno Latour

What a great video! 4 months work including Naomi Klein and the artist Molly Crabapple created a work for people to “see” that the Green New Deal was politically possible. Given the current political wasteland, one could give up on something this big because it seemed impossible.

The excellent DemocracyNow segment described what went into the work including the use of animation in our image jaded culture. AOC is a character. With all her work, probably few Americans know of Naomi Klein.

What happens when one approaches the anthropocene? No one has seen the anthropocene. How can one see that it possible to go beyond the Green New Deal and address the changes needed for all humans and non humans on earth?

As an aside, I pup a piece on Bruno related to the AOC art and Lipear put up a video which I will link again here.

The Need For Freedom In Creativity | Lowkey

He goes over the argument that oppression often creates great art. It sometimes happens as an outcome, but artists often confront power and power usually wins and artists get ground up in the oppression. This is my short summary of the video. It is not necessary to revisit that video.

Bruno is coming from a different place. It was painters who discovered perspective drawing that allowed Galileo to see the shadows on the moon. Bruno is using artists, scientists, etc. to become sensitive to the anthropocene.

In the two videos below he discusses “sensitivity” – how to be sensitive to the anthropocene, something so gigantic that it is impossible to “see” and the required response requires massive change. It will actually be harder to change than it was in the past because of dependence on technology and resources have made human change more difficult. And for 30 years, Bruno has brought in human and non human characters.

Is the anthropocene a character in a story that earthbounds (i.e., former humans) can relate with?

Here is the information on a 4 minute video

Philosopher Bruno Latour argues that the fundamental relations between art, science and politics in the Anthropocene have not changed since the 18th and 19th centuries when the crucial inventions of class, citizenship and the social question, among others, were made possible by a range of equally important actors, from novelists and political philosophers to statisticians and geographers. What may seem to complicate this fundamental relation among art, science and politics in the Anthropocene is a certain lagging or disparate sensitivity to these three aesthetics in our handling of what Latour calls the ‘ecological questions’ of our age. Such questions seem to have moved to the center of contemporary discussion and debate (as has their need for political resolution and action). Yet by and large most participants in the conversations are not yet sensitive to these so-called ecological phenomena in line with the aesthetic demands of art, science and politics. Our ecological discourse, Latour seems to suggest, is too rudimentary and needs to mature.

Note the inventions he notes: class, citizenship, and social question (including socialism). The citizen became an actor. The water protectors made water a political actor. Notice how aesthetics are central.

Be sure and use CC, closed captions. Obviously this is not a professional video like The Green New Deal.

Bruno Latour: What are the optimal interrelations of art, science and politics in the Anthropocene?

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Next is a much longer video on the same general topic. It is important the religion is prominent in his work including a way to understand fundamentalism which had reignited the religious wars that preceded The Enlightenment in the 16 -17th centuries.

Melbourne Lecture

What equipment is necessary to render us sensitive to the New Climatic Regime? There is science, of course, without which we would not have become aware of the change. There is also politics, the only way to assemble the relevant stake holders. But since we don’t seem naturally endowed with the right sensitivity to absorb the magnitude of the ecological mutations we confront, there is also the arts. The lecture will review the overlap between these three forms of aesthetics (defined as what makes us sensitive to hitherto unknown phenomena) by using various performances in which the author has been involved: theatre, exhibitions, simulations, as well as interventions in social science and philosophy

On Sensitivity Arts, Science and Politics in the New Climatic Regime

WindDancer13

Hillary wins popular vote in the General Election by wide margin, but Trump wins Electoral vote. Bernie wins popular vote in WV Primary by a wide margin, Hillary ends up with more delegates. If you're ok with the latter, don't bitch about the former. #FixTheSystem

— #Bernie2020 Brooks4Bernie2020 (@Brooks4Bernie) April 21, 2019

The Superdelegate situation still needs some work. Start with governors or other politicians who represent a state MUST as a superdelegate vote the will of their constituency. This will help preserve the one vote rule as they would only be confirming what the voters of their state have decided. If that candidate is not still in the race, then the vote goes to the first runner-up, etc.

orlbucfan

^^^Amen^^^

jcitybone

GOP Rep Andy Barr doesn’t want Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez meeting with miners from his state, because he knows she’s offering exactly what they really need. Sam Seder and the Majority Report crew discuss this.

polarbear4

polarbear4

polarbear4

polarbear4

How about we put a cap on the voting age for this election?

Leu2500
Leu2500

How about we don’t.

humphrey

LOL. Most of the commenters here are are oldtimers including pb4. Don’t take it personally.

orlbucfan

Old fart Boomers like me. 🙂

wi61

Add another old boomer

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

Some of us pre-boomers still hanging out too.

polarbear4

Cool graphic.

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