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LieparDestin
LieparDestin

Hi friends! miss you greatly!

will try and finallu get up a non politics post this evening

polarbear4

miss u 2🤗❤️🦜

orlbucfan

You better not abandon your Nest, LD!! You created it, and we are here now. “Not Me, Us” and that includes you and JD. Hope you two are safe and well. 🙂

EyeRound
EyeRound

Hope you are well–physically as well as emotionally! 🙂

Don midwest
Don midwest

Indian novelist Arundhati Roy in The Financial Times – which has corona virus articles on line, not like the rest of their content which is behind a pay wall

sorta long article, but well worth the read. I heard here last year on democracynow saying that India has as many poor people as the continent of Africa. Like prisons, we don’t know how far the pandemic will go through the poor of the world.

The Pandemic is a Portal

the last 3 paragraphs

Whatever it is, coronavirus has made the mighty kneel and brought the world to a halt like nothing else could. Our minds are still racing back and forth, longing for a return to “normality”, trying to stitch our future to our past and refusing to acknowledge the rupture. But the rupture exists. And in the midst of this terrible despair, it offers us a chance to rethink the doomsday machine we have built for ourselves. Nothing could be worse than a return to normality.

Historically, pandemics have forced humans to break with the past and imagine their world anew. This one is no different. It is a portal, a gateway between one world and the next.

We can choose to walk through it, dragging the carcasses of our prejudice and hatred, our avarice, our data banks and dead ideas, our dead rivers and smoky skies behind us. Or we can walk through lightly, with little luggage, ready to imagine another world. And ready to fight for it.

a couple of paragraphs from the article. Don’t want too many that overload a single page view. Bold in the original

The tragedy is immediate, real, epic and unfolding before our eyes. But it isn’t new. It is the wreckage of a train that has been careening down the track for years. Who doesn’t remember the videos of “patient dumping” — sick people, still in their hospital gowns, butt naked, being surreptitiously dumped on street corners? Hospital doors have too often been closed to the less fortunate citizens of the US. It hasn’t mattered how sick they’ve been, or how much they’ve suffered. 

At least not until now — because now, in the era of the virus, a poor person’s sickness can affect a wealthy society’s health. And yet, even now, Bernie Sanders, the senator who has relentlessly campaigned for healthcare for all, is considered an outlier in his bid for the White House, even by his own party.

polarbear4

great article. ❤️arundhati roy

polarbear4

i like it!

polarbear4

orlbucfan

T and R, jcb!! Thanks for all you are doing with our Daily OTs. 🙂

EyeRound
EyeRound

Hello to all TWPers! Best wishes that all of you are doing well and staying healthy!

May I reply here to Humphrey’s diary?

I will have to rejoin Humphrey’s sentiment, though his pragmatism is thoroughly American. I hear it again from the likes of Glen Greenwald, Krystal Ball, Jimmy Dore and others whom I try to keep up with and from whom I try to gain more information. (As, of course, with these pages, too!) They seem of a mind to advise Bernie to “play the game,” “go hardball with Biden” and so on.

Sheer (American) pragmatism won’t cut the mustard when we’re dealing with a person like Bernie, I believe. We have to cut our very American pragmatism with idealism, something we’re not used to, or are used only to hearing idealism depreciated as some kind of “pie in the sky.”

Here’s briefly what I mean by idealism: it means that, historically speaking, ideas are stronger than empirical realities. We are taught, over and over again, that the world is ruled by “results” and not by “ideas.” But that is false.

Now the “results” that have come to us through history are, more or less, what Arundhati Roi describes in the FT post that Don shares here today. These results are horrible. The Democratic machine that has been going all-out to pillory Bernie is yet another manifestation of these “results.” The results have formed a system, which reaches every institution in our world. And they’re horrible, and we can know that they are horrible.

So how do you fight this machine? First you have to recognize what you already know–that the machine, in addition to being corrupt, also holds all the cards. You know that, so take your recognition seriously and then proceed. In the pragmatic order of things, all power resides in the machine, and we have to recognize that before we can begin our fight. I believe that Bernie did so.

Now, you don’t fight the machine by joining it. By joining the machine you BECOME PART of the machine–that’s not fighting the machine. That’s the machine owning you. So you don’t fashion your campaign as if it’s another cog in the machine. You recognize that you can’t be “just a little bit like” the system, because the system / machine WANTS you to do that and it will eat you alive. You fight the machine, at the very least, by NOT doing what it does, by not making yourself like the machine, by not integrating yourself into its structures.

This is, in one shape or another, idealism. You trust your ideas, not the pragmatic world. I think that Chris Hedges is coming out of this kind of idealism. (So, by the way, did Jesus Christ and Karl Marx, among others.) I think Jordan Chariton kind of shares, or has insight into, this degree of idealism.

If Bernie is right, then he’s right, and you know it and so do I. The fight continues.

Well, another rant from me. Thank you for reading and stay well!

OzoneTom
OzoneTom

Well said! Thank-you for the rant.

Don midwest
Don midwest

well said

this essay proposes .. a single historical situation: the ruling classes had concluded that the earth no longer had room enough for them and everyone else.

Consequently, they decided that it was pointless to act as though history were going to continue to move toward a common horizon, toward a world in which all humans could prosper equally. From the 1980’s on, the ruling classes stopped purporting to lead and began to shelter themselves from the world. We are experiences all the consequences of this flight, of which Donald Trump is merely a symbol, one among others. The absence of a common world we can share is driving us crazy.

can’t understand anything about politics of last 50 years if one does not put climate change and its denial front and center .

need to return to earth

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This is from the first few pages of Bruno Latour’s short book “Down To Earth: Politics in the New Climate Regime.”

I typed in the text above and summarized some of it below.

We don’t know how the pandemic will play out. The Asian flu in 1957 took over 100,000 lives in the US and it was forgotten for the most part. Many are pointing out that the pandemic will have the effect as WW II, or even more with climate change going on as well.

will democracy survive?

the attempt to install it around the world have failed in many cases, and even our own experiment is on the brink

there was hope as Bernie led rallies and won elections, but then the blob struck and the blobette, Joe Biden arose from the ashes …

will this be the week of the surge of deaths?

will there be domestic violence?

in any case, Bernie has held a steady course and he is by far the best we have

polarbear4

i don’t like that i can even think that this could have been intentional.

orlbucfan

Excellent thought presentation!👍🕊 Many thanks!😊☮️

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