Skip to toolbar
 
HomeUncategorized4/8 Open Topic: Bernie is dropping out.

88
Leave a Reply

avatar
Photo and Image Files
 
 
 
Audio and Video Files
 
 
 
Other File Types
 
 
 
37 Comment threads
51 Thread replies
0 Followers
 
Most reacted comment
Hottest comment thread
11 Comment authors
PattyMayorlbucfanmagsviewEyeRoundSpring Texan Recent comment authors

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

  Subscribe  
newest oldest most voted
Notify of
jcitybone

Definitely not quitting.

wi62

Hello My fellow Tpw’ers The below pix best describes my reaction upon hearing the news today.I did that to hide the tears welling up in the eyes and shut my office door today. Gotta admit I wasn’t very productive the rest of the day. I generally save the Bevs till Friday but need something to numb the pain:(. I imagine the Billionaires, weapons of mass deception, Perez-DNC and Trumpcorp got who they wanted and are dancing in the streets. I wonder what it will take for people to wake up to realize were under 1 party control. The Under 40 crowd figured it out along with present company here. I figure it will be another year to vote green but will consider Charles if he’s on the ballot here in WI. At least Bernie inspired some of us Boomers and a lot of the under 40 crowd whom are going to have to clean up all our mistakes. In answer to Orls question since LD is part of that younger generation I hope he keeps the site going and that everyone stays here to keep fighting the good fight. I plan on voting for progressives as long as I’m alive . I do have one question whom is Bernie going to pass the torch to? Nina? AOC? to name a couple. Sorry Bernie, i’m no joe 2020 as he’s unfit for duty and against most of what you’ve been fighting for. Oh sure he’ll try to placate us by adding some of your ideas to his platform but you know as well as I do he wont follow thru with any of them. I’m so bummed right now and i’m sure i’m not alone so a group hug to all. Cheers 😥😥😥

20181109_174729.jpg
th.jpg
humphrey

Well said wi61. I agree with you.

Now for my 2 cents. I hate to say it but today Bernie has tossed away all the credibility he has built up over the years. He offered hope to many of the 99% with his policies yet when the opportunity came to go down with a honorable fight he decided to throw in the towel. He learned absolutely nothing from the previous primary. By once again joining the establishment team (which did everything in its power to throw a monkey wrench into his candidacy) he has given up the chance to endorse any candidates who were inspired by his ideas. To me this is truly a kick below the belt.

wi62

For me one tactial mistake was going to easy on Byedone. Thiers a moment in every race where it turns into a bloodsport, Bernie didnt do that and i think it cost him. Bernie had to take down Byedone like Warren did Bloomberg it was brutal but had to be done.

polarbear4
polarbear4

comment image

Spring Texan
Spring Texan

Thanks for your kind words. They help on a sad day. Appreciated.

wi62

I wonder, Bernie was building a younger multi cultural base, anyone remember who did that last? RFK and he took a bullet, I really wonder if someone sent a message simply saying remember RFK. I’m not a big CT nut but their are similarities to 68

humphrey

Well Obama fooled a lot of people with his “Hope and Change” bullshit and look where we are now.😥

Benny

polarbear4
polarbear4

it’s what i’ve been pushing!

but we need the lists. lol

humphrey

Sorry I just can’t help myself.😁

As for my future participation here I first have to check in with Vladimir to see what my new marching orders are.

wi62

Heil HYDRA !!! 🙂

Benny

For @polarbear4

polarbear4
polarbear4

thank you so much. {{{💔}}}

wi62

DNC= DNR

7iGAtwrB8KdV943wPIHj1V_hCpolV1C5QfxZrGgFW8w.jpg
polarbear4
polarbear4

love it. It’s hard to realize that a whole lot of people just don’t see what we see.

wi62

I feel its up to the next generation now, Build on what Bernie started and go forward. 2032 or so the centrist boomers wont be a factor. Just hope the planet can hang on a little longer..

jcitybone

I won’t be arguing with people here about this, but I will definitely be following Bernie’s lead and voting for Biden. Don’t like him, but I despise Trump and the Republicans. Won’t make any difference in NY in any case. I will spend my energy and $ on progressive down ballot candidates.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32085088/why-bernie-sanders-drop-out-2020-president/

The whole Bernie thing kicked off in 2015 with a memorable commercial. It was moving and well-produced and it called for a new kind of patriotism. The Simon and Garfunkel warhorse that was at its center rang with what Abraham called mystic chords of memory, but they were differently pitched, and they sounded more oaken and ancient, than the easy ones that made up familiar campaign tunes. Now that he has ended what is very likely his last campaign for the presidency, and now that he has done so with a strong endorsement of Joe Biden, if you take him all in all, Bernie Sanders will be reckoned with in political history as a significant agent of change.

Sanders gave clarity and focus to progressive ideas that had been all but drowned out by the counterfeit nostrums of modern movement conservatism. For over 30 years, the Democratic Party had run terrified away from its own best instincts and its deepest traditions

wi62

You must do as you think best with your vote, just as i will and everyone else here will also do. Me i dont see him making it to 2024 due to health concerns if he would win. I too am looking at down ballot but with WI so gerrymandered i doubt i’ll be around when Wi goes blue at the local level.

Stub
Stub

Maybe you are premature in your decision. I didn’t hear Bernie say he would be voting for Biden. He said he would be working with him.

jcitybone

I don’t know it sounds pretty much that he will be voting for Biden, which really shouldn’t be a big surprise given his longstanding pledge to support the nominee.

In a speech Wednesday, Sanders congratulated Biden on being the Democratic nominee. He called Biden a “decent man” whom he plans to work with to “move our progressive ideas forward.”

“Then, together, standing united, we will go forward to defeat Donald Trump,” he said.

Benny

If I understood you earlier, you are voting for Bernie in the upcoming primary but will also vote for Biden in the GE?

jcitybone

Yes. If There is a primary in NY

EyeRound
EyeRound

There will be a primary in NY–other primary races have to be decided on (NY Senate and Assembly, etc.) in that June 23 primary.

Bernie’s name is going to be on that ballot unless some major changes are made to the NY ballot itself. Actually, the more I think about this the more screwed up it seems. My absentee ballot (not yet sent in) has 5 Dem presidential candidates’ names along with their delegates.

I’ll vote Bernie in the primary. I’m not supporting Biden and wouldn’t touch Trump in November.

Reminder to all that Bernie makes his announcement on the first day of Passover–the day to remember and continue the struggle.

EyeRound
EyeRound

OK. Just found out that Cuomo added wording to the state budget that allows the Board of Elections to remove a candidate’s name from the ballot if the candidate is no longer running. Isn’t this disenfranchisement?

The Democratic party is doing so much that they can’t do!

polarbear4

fracker. Do you have a Twitter handle that you would like to share?

polarbear4

interesting about Passover. ty

wi62

Bernie will keep his word– not surprised

jcitybone

More on Bernie/Biden negotiations

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/us/politics/bernie-sanders-drops-out.html

If Mr. Biden, the former vice president, can now lay claim to the Democratic nomination, he still faces considerable challenges in uniting the party and mobilizing a broad base of voters for the November election. Unlike Mr. Sanders, Mr. Biden inspired little enthusiasm among young voters, nor did he develop signature policy proposals. He triumphed because many voters rejected Mr. Sanders’s policy agenda as too far to the left and prohibitively expansive, and were convinced that Mr. Biden had the best chance to beat Mr. Trump in November.

To motivate liberal Democrats who find him frustratingly conventional, Mr. Biden, 77, will most likely need to do far more to articulate an agenda on foundational Democratic issues like health care and climate change.

Those issues are central to Mr. Sanders’s candidacy, and in recent days, as Mr. Sanders began to consider dropping out more seriously, his aides intensified talks to find common ground with the Biden campaign. Mr. Sanders ultimately became satisfied that there was movement in directions that he wanted, a top aide said. The Biden campaign is expected to roll out a series of policy agreements with Mr. Sanders on health care and other issues — potentially including student loans — starting on Thursday, according to three people with direct knowledge of their plans.The two camps were still negotiating the details on Wednesday, and while Mr. Biden is not expected to embrace Mr. Sanders’s full-throated call for “Medicare for all,” for example, they are striving to arrive at positions with which they are both comfortable.

Benny

jcitybone
jcitybone

magsview

“Mayor Pete platitude generator”!

jcitybone

https://inthesetimes.com/article/22453/bernie-sanders-suspends-campaign-drops-out-movement

Mourning is merited.

For supporters of Bernie Sanders and the movement he galvanized, this is a difficult day. What once appeared firmly within our grasp is no more. That reality is all the more sad in that it comes as Americans are dying by the thousands in a pandemic. Isolated, we are unable to meaningfully participate in the civic life of our nation due to concerns for our safety.

Sanders’ decision to leave the race is a loss for the progressive movement. His continued presence on the national stage has been instrumental in bringing left-wing ideas into the mainstream of American politics. By dropping out, he will no longer be able to command the coverage and attention he’s received for years as a presidential candidate.

Bernie Sanders will not become the next president, and as a supporter of his, I believe the country will be worse off for it. But his campaign provided an opening for the American Left that hadn’t been seen in decades. Far from turning to a revanchist position, we must now take full advantage of this aperture and push harder than ever for the vision we all saw represented by the Sanders campaign.

We are in a state of crisis. The vehicle for our movement has been derailed. Mourning is understandable. But continuing the fight is the only way forward.

polarbear4
polarbear4

someone on Twitter made a good, if sad, point. He never asked us. He never polled notmeus. That is so sad to me. I haven’t even said it on Twitter but I suppose I will maybe tomorrow. I’ll find the person who said it and credit them

Benny

Our Revolution did, and the majority wanted Bernie to stay in.

I think something fishy is going on. Meantime, FNC is getting warmed up on Joe’s cognitive abilities.

wi62

the GOP superpacs just went into production over drive on ads no shortage of material, but then again Trumpcorp provided a lot of material as well.

humphrey

There is a problem though. Biden in his weak mental state can not fight things off on his own. Trump on the other hand says one thing and five minutes later says exactly the opposite without batting an eyelash. He has no shame and he will this to his advantage against mumbling Biden.

There is one other thing with regards to Biden in that he has a temper problem. Whenever he is confronted with an unexpected issue that he doesn’t like he lashes out. eg. when he told a questioner to go vote republican then.

wi62

Trumpcorp is a moron, but sharp enough to attack anyone that way. If you watch trumpcorp he tends to fold his arms and scowl when backed into a corner then the lies come

humphrey

I forgot to to add that Biden even screws up fluff interviews from the likes of CNN and MSNBComcast. There is plenty of video evidence of this.

polarbear4

polarbear4

Guess Nina would’ve made sure he saw that.

polarbear4

yeah. it’s like Bernie’s handing it to Cuomo. Or whoever they decide to slide in there. I don’t know why he thought he had to do this and if he stayed in he would’ve had a really good chance just because of Joe’s cognitive abilities. Instead some slime ball gets it. I know I’m a tired old record but I figure hopefully get it out of my system today, for the most part

wi62

gonna take me a bit to get it out. sooo…

simpsons-memes-two-party-system.jpg
polarbear4

yeah. Maybe I was being a bit optimistic.

polarbear4

@Maynard1Rick. in a longer youtube i haven’t listened to.

humphrey

Not sure if this is the video you were referring to?🤔

Bernie has listened to those around him and to Democratic Party supporters who were badgering him to drop out! But Not Me. Us! Campaign didn’t even poll its millions of supporters to see whether we wanted him to stay or go. So, he proved his point change never happens from the top down; only from the bottom up. The bottom up man never asked the bottom of his campaign to make its most critical decision. He only asked the top of the Campaign: his friends, relatives and staffers what they thought. So now he’s suspended, and we have a movement without a candidate for the presidency and without a leader. So where do we go from here?

polarbear4

yes & thank you. I wasn’t sure if I should put it up since I didn’t watch it, but I’m glad you didn’t maybe I’ll watch it tomorrow. Or listen to it while I do something else. I just heard that the movie parasite is on Hulu right now I don’t know for how long. I’m going to watch that tomorrow while I do my taxes and pay my bills.

PattyMay
PattyMay

Bernie Sanders is a heroic person, a giant of a man, a truly great leader who made his decision based not on saving his own ass but on reality, what he sees is most needed to help us. Ponder that word “reality” for a moment. I support Bernie’s decision to stop active campaigning and instead focus his energy on getting bills passed to keep Americans afloat through this pandemic. He didn’t cave, we should know him well enough to know that. He made a reasoned decision in which he concluded his time was best spent doing what he could to pull our asses out of the wringer rather than in chasing a lost cause. For people here who don’t face homelessness and/or hunger, huge debt and decades of misery due to the Covid crisis, it’s easy to say it’s all politics. For many people, Bernie’s campaign was a personal effort to survive. Bernie, unlike those who support him one day and abandon him the next, gets it. If you don’t get it by now, after five years with him, you may never get it, ever. So “where do we go from here?” Listen to his statement before you jump to conclusions. It’s in there. We will go on.

Benny