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There was an article posted today on the barbaric actions of the French in Algeria.
I knew that it was bad, but I didn’t know that it resulted in the death of a million people and the destruction of the culture and history, like all the libraries.

Dear Marine Le Pen: Only a Fascist would Praise Colonialism . . . Oh Wait:

Marine Le Pen’s declaration that colonialism was a positive thing is not only a denial of France’s painful history, but an example of the fascism that we now face in Europe.

This has relevance as Trump praises her and proves that he is a fascist also.

As you know, I am fixated on Bruno Latour, the French polymath. I went searching for some of his writings on colonization which are found in many places in his work. I also know that in other places he is working our how the moderns, that is us, do not live in either space or time.

With Native Americans on the warpath, e.g., war dances in the headquarters of the banks in NYC, the natives are connecting us with the past which has never been the past and thus show another example of temporarily. I will link to two more articles neither of which are by Bruno Latour, but found on a search with his name. Here is the first:

The question of temporality has always been central to the narrative and ethos of modernity, and the consolidation and dissemination of a linear conception of time has been one of its enduring successes. While globalization and the migrations and mobilities it has set in motion may be unscrambling in social and geographical space the spatialization that anchored this conception of time and temporal relations, the teleological imaginary of time unfolding in a linear manner remains. We may no longer use overtly optimistic terms such as “progress” and “civilization,” or the more derogatory “savage,” but we have found various synonyms for them.

If the new convergence of interest in animism is to bear any advantage for those on the other side of modernity, it is here that we should begin with a conception of time that rejects linearity but recognizes the complex embeddedness of different temporalities, different, discordant discursive formations, and different epistemological perspectives within the same historical moment. And then we should search for a language to represent this knowledge.

The article begins with

How do we account for the recent resurgence of interest in animism and animist thought? Once considered a kind of cognitive error, as evidence of cognitive underdevelopment and epistemological failure, animism has once again become an object of discursive attention and intellectual inquiry, in addition to serving as a platform for political action, particularly around issues of ecology and the environment. It has become an acceptable if not entirely respectable way of knowing and acting in the world. Although E. B. Tylor’s nineteenth-century definition of the concept has remained foundational, we have come a long way from the modernist understanding of it which Emile Durkheim summed up in these words:

For Tylor, this extension of animism was due to the particular mentality of the primitive, who, like an infant, cannot distinguish the animate and the inanimate. […] Now the primitive thinks like a child. Consequently, he is also inclined to endow all things, even inanimate ones, with a nature analogous to his own.3

This new interest has overturned the old prejudice which equated animism with everything that was childlike and epistemologically challenged, everything that was the negation of the mature, the modern, and the civilized.

On Animism, Modernity/Colonialism, and the African Order of Knowledge: Provisional Reflections

Now on to the second article. This one is by an indigenous woman who criticizes the Great Bruno Latour by not referencing the indigenous people themselves, but by putting his discourse in European terms while linking to indigenous people.

An Indigenous Feminist’s take on the Ontological Turn: ‘ontology’ is just another word for colonialism (Urbane Adventurer: Amiskwacî)

Personal paradigm shifts have a way of sneaking up on you. It started, innocently enough, with a trip to Edinburgh to see the great Latour discuss his latest work in February 2013. I was giddy with excitement: a talk by the Great Latour. Live and in colour! In his talk, on that February night, he discussed the climate as sentient. Funny, I thought, this sounds an awful lot like the little bit of Inuit cosmological thought I have been taught by Inuit friends. I waited, through the whole talk, to hear the Great Latour credit Indigenous thinkers for their millennia of engagement with sentient environments, with cosmologies that enmesh people into complex relationships between themselves and all relations.

It never came. He did not mention Inuit. Or Anishinaabe. Or Nehiyawak. Or any Indigenous thinkers at all. In fact, he spent a great deal of time interlocuting with a Scottish thinker, long dead. And with Gaia.

I left the hall early, before the questions were finished. I was unimpressed. Again, I thought with a sinking feeling in my chest, it appeared that the so-called Ontological Turn was spinning itself on the backs of non-european thinkers. And, again, the ones we credited for these incredible insights into the ‘more-than-human’, and sentience and agency, were not the people who built and maintain the knowledge systems that european and north american anthropologists and philosophers have been studying for well over a hundred years, and predicating their current ‘aha’ ontological moment upon. No, here we were celebrating and worshipping a european thinker for ‘discovering’ what many an Indigenous thinker around the world could have told you for millennia. The climate is sentient!

So, again, I was just another inconvenient Indigenous body in a room full of people excited to hear a white guy talk around Indigenous thought without giving Indigenous people credit. Doesn’t this feel familiar, I thought.


hmmm. i can see both sides. i was an animist when i was pretty tiny, and hadn’t heard the indigenous cultural stories yet, but I can see how if I were to make money or gain fame on similar beliefs, I would want to at least say something like, “I want to recognize everyone who has influenced me, especially the indigenous people of the world (and any other group, or individual indigenous and other people). IIRC, he does cite sources in his papers. Hopefully he gives a nod to the more general sources, as well. And by the time you’ve immersed yourself in this field of study, yes, you would have many, many sources to thank!

And yes, she is right, that tribal cultures worldwide incorporated much more animism and respect for nature than other cultures. Now I’m thinking, though. Before caucasians “found God” and manifest destiny, we were also in more tribal groupings–thinking Celts, Druids, others. Now I’m curious as to when and where many of our ancestors started the slide towards seeing nature as a thing to be conquered, as well as other people. And I’m curious as to whether, when tribes fought, did they ever try to completely assimilate the other tribe?


It is good that this is happening.


The chair of Nebraska’s Democratic Party is criticizing Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairman Tom Perez for calling for all Democrats to be pro-abortion rights, saying the party shouldn’t make anti-abortion Democrats feel unwelcome.

“Tom Perez put every Democrat who is leading our party at the nationwide and statewide level in a very difficult position,” Jane Kleeb told the Atlantic, saying Perez’s statement “is now being interpreted as him saying he does not accept pro-life Democrats in the Party.”

“I think the demonizing of people who are pro-life is deplorable,” she added. Kleeb said she identifies as pro-choice and progressive.


The more I hear from her the less I like her.


Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) said Thursday that Russian meddling in U.S. elections could become “normalized” if the government does not further respond to Moscow’s interference in the 2016 presidential contest.

Shaheen doubled down on her push for an independent investigation of Russia’s actions and more sanctions on Moscow in a speech at the Center for American Progress Action Fund on Thursday afternoon.

“If Russia gets a pass on 2016, it could interfere in future U.S. elections not only at the presidential level but at the House and Senate level,” Shaheen said.

The New Hampshire Democrat is part of a bipartisan group of senators who introduced legislation in January that would impose further sanctions on Russia.

Give it a rest already. There are more important things like where she is on the list posted by LD today.


Well, I can’t get it to post, but it’s two adorable, but guilty looking dogs staring wide-eyed at the camera, and the meme is:




I don’t know if this is the one you mentioned but I will give it a try.



Ha ha! Mine had different dogs. Same meme. Did you Copy Image or Copy Image Address? I tried both, but it didn’t work. Might have been something to do with the image.

Thanks! I smile every time I see it. :O)


I did a google search using “THE RUSSIANS POOPED IN THE HALLWAY!” then clicked on images. I then looked for a jpeg then copied the image address.


thx. 🙂


I haven’t watched it yet but it ought to be good! A Tim Black… Jimmy Dore interview!


Maybe someone should send a link to Al Sharpton.


Seemingly never at a loss for words Caitlin Johnstone weighs in on Obama.

View story at Medium.com

Apr 27
If Progressives Don’t Wake Up To How Awful Obama Was, Their Movement Will Fail

Could you ask for a more perfect bookend to Obama’s blood-soaked neocon abortion of a presidency than his receiving $400,000 to give a speech at a health care conference organized by a Wall Street firm?
My God I hate every single thing about every single part of this. Let me type that out again in segments, so we can all really feel into it:
Four hundred thousand dollars. From a former President of the United States. To give a speech. At a healthcare conference. Organized by a Wall Street firm.
Why are Wall Street firms organizing motherfucking healthcare conferences, one might understandably ask? And why are they hiring the man who just completed an eight-year war on progressive healthcare policy and a torrid love affair with Wall Street criminals? These are extremely reasonable questions that might be asked by anyone who is intelligent and emotionally masochistic enough to look straight at this thing, and the answer, of course, is America. That’s what America is now. The man who continued and expanded all of Bush’s most evil policies, created a failed state in Libya, exponentially expanded the civilian-slaughtering US drone program which Chomsky calls “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” to unprecedented levels, facilitated the Orwellian expansion of the US surveillance state while prosecuting more whistleblowers than all previous administrations combined, and used charm and public sympathy to evade the drastic environmental policy changes we’ll need to avert climate disaster and lull the progressive movement into a dead sleep for eight years now gets paid nearly half a million dollars an hour to continue bolstering the exploitative corporatist nightmare he’s dedicated his life to. American University has compiled data indicating that the already extremely wealthy Obama family may end up being worth as much as $242 million in their post-White House years, and if Barry keeps whoring himself out like this, he might exceed even that.

I gather that she is not overly impressed. LOL there is more at the above link.


Say what you really mean, Caitlin:

By letting ourselves really see Obama for the vicious ecocidal warmongering corporatist that he is and letting the resulting disgust wash through us, we are inoculating ourselves against sympathy for him and everyone like him. That disgust will serve as a kind of psychological gag reflex that rescues us from swallowing any more of their bullshit.


I don’t remember seeing this one. If I missed it. MY BAD!

View story at Medium.com

Never mind the fact that this candidate, Heath Mello, has specifically said that “While my faith guides my personal views, as mayor I would never do anything to restrict access to reproductive health care.” Never mind the fact that as mayor he’d have no control over reproductive rights legislation anyway. Never mind the fact that these pussyhat-wearing dimwits are promulgating a bald-faced lie peddled by establishment outlets like The Wall Street Journal and the CIA-funded Washington Post asserting that Mello sponsored a bill that would require women to have a transvaginal ultrasound and look at the picture of the fetus before they could obtain an abortion. Never mind that it’s in deep-red fucking Nebraska. Never mind the hypocrisy of bitching about “purity tests” from progressives and then saying that a slight impurity in one mayoral candidate he endorsed means that Sanders hates women and needs to go. Never mind Sanders’ 100% perfect rating on reproductive rights from Planned Parenthood. This is where these brave McResistors have chosen to take their stand against the big, scary boogeyman from Vermont.

Allow me to femsplain. The people coming after Sanders in this way are all Clinton loyalists — seriously, check them out, I guarantee you’ll find Hillary stuff on the social media page of anyone who’s going on about this Mello thing. These are human beings who truly believe that Hillary Clinton would have made a terrific president. They’re people who think a former Walmart director who attacked Sanders for pushing for universal healthcare over the corporatist clusterfuck known as Obamacare would steer America in a positive direction. They’re people who think that the woman who told a group of Goldman Sachs executives that she’d lie to the American people for their benefit, and who painted Sanders’ vision of bringing the United States up to speed with the rest of the developed world on economic justice as “pie in the sky” naivety, was what the nation really needs. They’re people like former Clinton strategist Sally Albright, who in January said in a (since-deleted but archived) tweet that income inequality is “only a priority for white cis men” in her relentless establishment push to get Democrats to abandon the fight for economic justice. They support thinking like that and oppose thinking like Bernie’s.


I have no idea why there is so much bolding. (not intended) but the edit feature does not work all that well.


Listening to eckhart tolle talk about how we should communicate consciously when debating politics and thinking that i’m probably not following his advice when I share Caitlin. And wondering how i integrate those 2 things–wanting to be “conscious” in everything I do and yet finding Caitlin to be one of the most refreshing, alive, and funny writers I’ve had the pleasure to read.

I understand that she is off-putting to those that she wishes would see things differently, but she is a balm to the soul of the minority that us “true progressives” are, or at least to some of us.


I love Caitlin! She’s brave, intelligent & funny.

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