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Don midwest
Don midwest

Chelsea Manning biography on the way

Interview with Charlie Savage who years ago at the Boston Globe on Presidential Signing Statements and has now been at NYT for several years.

‘I’m Really Opening Myself Up’: Chelsea Manning Signs Book Deal

Another terrorist for exposing what the holy government is doing in our name.

Recommend the article.

So few willing to take this kind of action.

I will be on vacation for next several days so you will be deprived of my comments. Sorry.

(I really am known for stupid jokes like that one)

orlbucfan

You enjoy yourself and stay outta trouble, Dm! 🙂

magsview

Enjoy Don! Please share a bit of it with us non-vacationers?

And I WILL miss your comments, lol. 🙂

wi61

Ditto DM and looking forward to your return.

Benny

jcitybone

I doubt she will formally endorse while both Bernie and Warren are in the race, but she might do more optic endorsements like the GND event and the credit card interest bill team up.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/15/aoc-bernie-sanders-partnership-offers-mutual-benefits-beyond-2020-race/1193525001/

Rachel Epitropakis is a huge fan of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and her Green New Deal.

Bernie Sanders? Not so much she says.

But as Epitropakis stood in line to hear the congresswoman address a climate change rally at Howard University Monday, the 29-year-old bartender from Baltimore County, Maryland, said Sanders’ presence at the event makes it likelier she’d consider supporting the independent Vermont senator for president next year.

“He’s here today,” said Epitropakis, clutching a glittery, hand-made ‘We love you AOC,’ sign. “And that means something to me.”

Sanders’ support for wealth distribution, Medicare-for-all and other “Democratic socialist” positions line up well with the party’s energized, far-left flank. But he’s had to battle the perception that, as a white male approaching 80, Democratic voters are ready to get behind someone who’s a better demographic fit for the party.

Teaming up with Ocasio-Cortez, 29, appears to give him some juice among younger minority voters, said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics.

“Sanders path to (the nomination) involves consolidation of the left to far left and AOC can (help him) do that,” Sabato said. The association with Ocasio-Cortez “broadens his appeal because he’s getting some of the same criticism as (former Vice President Joe Biden and South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg). The white privilege argument.”

For Ocasio-Cortez, associating with Sanders has benefits as well, Sabato said

“She doesn’t want to get classified as one of the two or three ‘out-there’ liberals in the freshman class,” the political analyst said. “She wants to be seen as left but not on the side of wacky. This allows her to do that.”

orlbucfan

Sabato is a life-long conservative so his positive comments are very interesting!

Torabs
Torabs

Granted it’s USA Today, but where do they find these people?

Sabato’s merely trying to look relevant, while bashing the left at the same time. That last comment he made literally makes no sense. I think he’s dog-whistling about the benefits of being associated with a white person, disgustingly.

jcitybone

OK but more than 1/5 of Dem voters say it would make them MORE likely to vote for him. With voters like that…

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/443759-some-dems-hesitant-to-support-biden-over-iraq-war-vote-poll

Some Democrats are hesitant to support former Vice President’s Joe Biden’s presidential bid over his 2002 vote in favor of the invasion of Iraq, according to a Politico/Morning Consult poll released Wednesday.

Nearly 3 in 10 Democrats said in the survey that they were turned off by Biden’s Iraq War vote while he was serving as a senator from Delaware. More than 40 percent of respondents between the ages of 18 and 29 said his record on the issue made them less likely to support him.

Thirty-two percent of all respondents said the war vote makes no difference to them, compared to 21 percent who said it made them more likely to support Biden, according to the poll. Eighteen percent said they don’t know whether it would influence their choice or that they have no opinion.

jcitybone

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/15/deb-haaland-public-lands-fighting-trump-drilling

Haaland has now become a powerful voice advocating for US public lands in the face of the Trump administration. In November, Haaland, a member of the Laguna Pueblo tribe, won her New Mexico seat, becoming one of the first two Native American women ever elected to the US House of Representatives. (The other, Sharice Davids, is a Kansas congresswoman who belongs to the Ho-Chunk Nation.)

“My ancestors migrated to what is now New Mexico … where the Pueblo Indians live, back in the late 1200’s,” Haaland told the Guardian in a recent interview. “No one else can claim that they have been there any longer than our people, than the Pueblo people, and I feel like perhaps my voice is important right now to testify to our longstanding care for the land.”

With Haaland in office, “we now have a Native American right there in the decisionmakers’ room,” said Shaun Chapoose, the co-chair of the Bears Ears Inter-Tribal Coalition and a member of the governing body of the Ute Indian tribe. “She is a Native American and she understands our traditions and she is in a place where she can educate lawmakers.”

She understands, for instance, that almost every parcel of public land in the US is land that Native peoples have inhabited or used for material and spiritual purposes. When the United States government used violence and coercion to force indigenous tribes on to reservations, Native people did not suddenly lose their connection to it.

“Our sacred sites are all over the public lands,” said Haaland.

Haaland’s work on behalf of the public lands is not solely about protecting indigenous sacred sites. She is also deeply concerned about the climate crisis.

Tom Solomon, a co-coordinator for the climate group 350 New Mexico, said that Haaland “has been a pretty fierce climate advocate for a long time”. Before she went to Washington DC, Solomon says Haaland was “instrumental” in building bridges between the environmental movement and indigenous communities in New Mexico in support of legislation that commits public utilities in the state to stringent clean and renewable energy standards by 2045. That legislation, called the Energy Transition Act, was signed into law in New Mexico in March 2019.

Haaland says she would ultimately like to see fossil fuel development phased out completely on the federal domain. “I am wholeheartedly against fracking and drilling on public lands,” she said. She is also a staunch supporter of the Green New Deal, a nascent plan to rapidly end America’s reliance on fossil fuels, restore its ecosystems and rebuild its infrastructure.

“Public lands are a statement about who we are as Americans,” Haaland said. “The most pristine and beautiful places in our country should never belong to one person.”

Benny

WindDancer13

Maybe because he has nothing to say that we want to hear.

WindDancer13

In case anyone has forgotten:

jcitybone

Biden speaks but yep no “abortion”

Unlike Bernie

WindDancer13

I just noticed a difference in those two tweets. Biden–4,757 talking; Bernie–15.6K talking.

All the anti-choice people are showing up in Bernie’s thread. One comment in Biden’s thread was particularly succinct: You must Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court.

WindDancer13

There seems to be a disconnect between my brain and my typing:

must = put

You put Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court.

wi61

Trumpcorp R’s support him “even if he would shoot someone on 5th avenue”
Now we have Bieden voteing with R’s on way to many policies but yet the establishment D’s hang on his every word and have him as “thier” favortie eventhough he will screw them over. You just have to take a little time look at Bidens voting record.

WindDancer13

I am working on some tweets aimed at older voters to expose Biden’s voting record along with his statements. How are grandma and grandpa going to like knowing that Biden (and Obama) offered to cut their social security and Medicare?

My main problem (after getting the graphics done) is where to post them so it reaches the appropriate audience. It is obvious they do not hang out in Bernie’s Twitter site.

wi61

Its a tough call. Mailers reach this age demographic at least sometimes its a form of communication for them. My Mother in law is about 90 and looks forward to the mail delivery every day, then it’s the network news. For a lot of them their “locked” into the D or R no matter what and it just don’t matter. I hate to pigeon hole a group but a lot of them wont change until it directly effects them and then some still wont believe it and wont change their vote.

humphrey
humphrey

magsview

Dr. Kate Marvel:

What I’m going to tell Congress today: a thread

jcitybone

Good one. Hopefully, the Dems will come to their senses. Mostly everyone else running is better than Biden.

https://newrepublic.com/article/153912/joe-biden-going-back-clinton-playbook

When Joe Biden made his first bid for president, he was forced to drop out after plagiarizing British Labour leader Neil Kinnock in a Democratic debate. Now, in his third run for the White House, Biden is plagiarizing himself. “Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to restore America’s soul,” he bellowed at the Iowa Democratic Steak Fry in May 1987. Thirty-two years later, almost to the day, miraculously sporting more hair cover than his balding dome had back then, Biden kicked off his 2020 campaign in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, by proclaiming, “We’re in a battle for America’s soul—I really believe it—and we have to restore it.”

Politicians can’t help but repeat themselves on the campaign trail, of course; like bands on tour, they tend to fall back on the tried-and-true. The trouble with Biden isn’t that his rhetoric hasn’t changed in three decades. It’s that his politics haven’t, either.

Back then, Biden was a central figure in transforming the party of New Deal and Great Society liberalism into a welfare-reforming, tax-cutting, crime-fighting, corporate-friendly cousin of the GOP. “The arc of Biden’s long career,” as Esquire columnist Charles Pierce wrote earlier this year, “follows in close harmony the endless attempts by the Democratic Party to backtrack on its most profound principles in order to bring back people who have been taught to hate it.”

The one difference between the Biden of 1987 and the Biden of 2019 is that he’s gone from promoting himself as the voice of a new generation to peddling pure nostalgia, promising a return to the “sanity” that supposedly prevailed in the time before Trump. “I believe that history will look back on four years of this president and all he embraces,” Biden said in his announcement video, “as an aberrant moment in time.” Anyone with the slightest short-term historical memory knows better—and Biden, an eyewitness to the entire government-wrecking project that began with Reagan in the ‘80s, accelerated with Newt Gingrich’s Republican House majority in the ‘90s, hit new heights under George W. Bush in the ‘00s, and culminated in Trumpism, certainly ought to.

The Clinton and Obama presidencies did nothing to halt America’s slide into a rancorous new Gilded Age—nor did Senator and Vice President Biden, who now promises to restore those halcyon days of “unity over division, hope over fear.” There’s nothing remarkable about the fact that he’s campaigning this way; it’s all he knows, and all he’s ever done. What’s stunning is the number of Democrats who are, so far, buying what Biden is selling.

The last three decades have shown the bitter consequences of Democrats hewing white and right, acceding to the fiction that there’s no other way to win. Settling for Biden will mean blunting messages and policies that can fire up millennials and under-50 voters of color in 2020, both in the Rust Belt and in Sunbelt battlegrounds like North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Arizona. It will turn the 2020 general election into a mano y mano slugfest for the votes of a small number of aggrieved white guys in a select few states. We’ve seen that movie before. It does not end well. Not even for the white guys.

polarbear4

Pepe Escobar from a longer article in consortium news.

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/05/13/iran-squeezed-between-imperial-psychos-and-european-cowards/

Yet Iran provokes psychopathic imperial functionaries to a paroxysm of rage for three serious reasons. Neocons never mind that trying to destroy Iraq cost over $6 trillion — and it was a major war crime, a political disaster, and an economic abyss all rolled into one. Trying to destroy Iran will cost untold trillions more.

The most glaring reason for the irrational hatred is the fact the Islamic Republic is one of the very few nations on the planet consistently defying the hegemon — for four decades now.

The second reason is that Iran, just like Venezuela — and this is a combined war front — have committed the supreme anathema; trading on energy bypassing the petrodollar, the foundation stone of U.S. hegemony.

The third (invisible) reason is that to attack Iran is to disable emerging Eurasia integration, just like using NSA spying to ultimately put Brazil in the bag was an attack on Latin American integration

polarbear4

BTW, he goes on to say that this only gives more strength to the stricter leaders, who have been saying all along that you can’t trust America.

humphrey

Think about this for a minute!

humphrey

humphrey

magsview

polarbear4

Blows me away. Really clueless of her.

Torabs
Torabs

Oh Liz. I wouldn’t lump her in with the other 15%-hunters, as the MSM has not given her nearly as much free press. But the only viable argument for her candidacy goes up in smoke when she tries to run to Bernie’s right.

At this point, Bernie has stronger organizational support, better name recognition (the inverse of 2016), and better experience dealing with the national campaign grind. Unless you believe in identity politics unicorns, Bernie has to be seen as the best chance America has to start changing the doomed, self-destructive path it’s been on for the past 40 years.

(fantastic tweets here btw; high time the military empire be seen as it’s own entity, separate from the American people and actively working to undermine our interests)

humphrey

humphrey

humphrey

John Bolton is Playing Chicken with Iran—It’s “Unclear” Trump Even Knows

humphrey

humphrey

polarbear4

polarbear4

The bottom one is Bernie 2020.

polarbear4

humphrey

Amir is on a roll today!👍

humphrey

humphrey
Torabs
Torabs

Uhh, like the courts saved us in 2000? People need to stop peddling revisionist crap. With the possible exception of gay marriage, the courts have done little to stop the regressive Republican agenda since the Reagan era.

humphrey

polarbear4

Done.

Torabs
Torabs

What a shitty company. Here’s hoping this has an impact.

humphrey

I am only including the first and the last. The rest are worth a read.

https://www.juancole.com/2019/05/differences-between-proposed.html

Top Ten differences between the Iraq War and Trump’s Proposed Iran War

1. Iraq is 168,754 mi² and Iran is 636,400 mi²; that is, Iran is geographically 3.77 times bigger than Iraq, almost 4 times as big.

10. Whereas Iraq’s neighbors– Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia in particular– had been mauled by Saddam and so did not strongly oppose Bush’s invasion, Shiite Iraqis, many Syrians, the Hazaras of Afghanistan, and the some 40 million Shiites of Pakistan would support Iran.

polarbear4

And Russia. Don’t know how far they’d be willing to go to show their support, but they do support Iran.

wi61

Then you can add Hezbollah, Hamas, Al- Quaeda and remaining Isis all would rally to Iran’s defense, Then Russia would be supplying so called “Advisors” and weapons. And these groups don’t have far to travel to get to the war zone either.

orlbucfan

Look at the major waterways that border Iran. They would blockade them ASAP! That would put a BIG hurt on ME oil shipments.

Torabs
Torabs

You don’t mean harm, but Al-Queda and Isis are terrorist organizations Iran is actively fighting in Syria and Iraq. Hamas is a Palestinian political party with no affiliation with Iran. Let’s not buy into the very propaganda that we are trying to oppose.

wi61

I’m just thinking that most over their view the US as the great Satan and would put aside their differences to take a crack at the US troops. They could “unite”just for this.

polarbear4

polarbear4

Gotta love those political instincts.

WindDancer13

Not my first thought, but the first is unprintable.

polarbear4

Saw Hair in LA many, many moons ago.

WindDancer13

Closer to the truth. Hair cutting as a sign of despair?

English lyrics:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/paloma-negra-black-dove.html

I’m tired of crying with no hope
I don’t know whether to curse you or pray for you
I’m afraid to look for you and find you
Where my friends assured me you go
There are times when I’d like to die
And release myself from this suffering
But my eyes will die without seeing yours
And at dawn my love will be waiting for you again

As for you, you are partying
Black dove, black dove, where are you?
You shouldn’t play with my pride
Since your affection should have been mine and no one else’s.

And even though I love you madly, don’t come back
I want to be free, live my life with someone I love
God give me strength because I’m dying to go look for him

NYCVG
NYCVG

Can’t wait for the toenail clipping episode.

polarbear4

WindDancer13

A perfect opportunity:

3 Florida radio stations to broadcast Trump speeches every hour until 2020 election

A media company that operates multiple radio stations in Florida has vowed to broadcast portions of President Trump’s speeches every hour of every day until the 2020 election.

Gulf Coast Media Inc., the owner of the stations Classic Rock 95.9 WRBA-FM, HANK FM 103.5 WKNK and BOB FM 105.1 WASJ, announced in a press release that it would air Trump’s speeches for the next 18 months.

Samuel Rogatinsky, the owner of the radio station operator based in Bay County, Fla., told The Orlando Sentinel that the stations would broadcast two-minute snippets of Trump’s speeches every hour of every day.

Opportunity 1: No need to do oppo research. The radio stations will hand it to us. Get ready to debunk everything he says via Twitter (target Florida accounts), FB, here so others can pass it along, etc.

Rogatinksy told The Wrap that he would offer similar air time to other 2020 candidates in order to comply with Federal Communication Commission equal time guidelines.

“If anybody requests it, it won’t be an issue,” he said, adding that he’d dole out airtime to candidate such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) if they request it.

Opportunity 2: Someone from Bernie’s campaign needs to jump on this. The contrasts could be quite illuminating. Bernie can pack a lot into multiple two-minute airings.

As noted in the article, HRC lost Florida by less than 113,000 votes.

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On another topic, does anyone know or know how to contact Tim Canova? If so, could you pass the following idea along for consideration. Someone may already have something in the works, but just in case:

With the Republicans putting up roadblocks to voting for people who have prison records by requiring these people to pay fines or restitution before the right will be returned to them, someone needs to set up a GoFundMe to pay those fines/restitution. Someone who knows how to coordinate matching funds to those who need it and maing it possible for people to vote would throw a Sequoia in the spokes of the Republican (and Democratic party) disenfranchisement scheme.

Similar topic: Many states now require IDs for voting. A GoFundMe to help pay for said IDs along with volunteers to help walk people through the registration process would go a long way to enfranchising a lot of current non-voters.

orlbucfan

Bay County–“Southern Alabama” and just as stupid as well as racist! Gag me with a spoon!

WindDancer13

This needs to be implemented before the primaries, and I would still prefer hand counting.

Senate Democrats introduce bill requiring paper ballots amid election cybersecurity concerns

A group of congressional Democrats is making a renewed push for cybersecurity in the 2020 election in anticipation of attempted Russian interference, including requiring paper ballots.

Twelve Democratic senators and an independent who caucuses with them — including several presidential candidates — introduced legislation Wednesday that would require hand-marked paper ballots and “statistically rigorous” cybersecurity audits for federal elections. Presidential candidates Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Kamala Harris of California cosponsored the measure.

The Protecting American Votes and Elections Act of 2019, spearheaded by Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, would prohibit internet-connected voting machines and would direct the Department of Homeland Security to set security criteria for voting machines, voter registration databases, electronic voter check-in tools and election results websites, according to the bill.

polarbear4

Progress.

WindDancer13

Jesse Jackson steps up for Venezuelan embassy protectors. The Guaido people show themselves for what they are. . . thieves.

polarbear4

Wow.

jcitybone

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/15/sanders-backs-calls-to-break-up-facebook-1327881

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said today he supports calls to break up Facebook, his first remarks on the matter since entering the 2020 Democratic presidential campaign.

Asked on Capitol Hill by POLITICO whether he backed such calls for antitrust action against the social networking company, Sanders replied, “The answer is yes of course.”

He added: “We have a monopolistic— an increasingly monopolistic society where you have a handful of very large corporations having much too much power over consumers.”

A number of Democratic candidates vying for the White House in recent days have weighed in on the issue, but to this point only Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) have overtly supported such action. Warren earlier this year unveiled a sweeping proposal that would direct federal regulators to make Facebook spin off WhatsApp and Instagram, two of its blockbuster acquisitions from recent years.

polarbear4

WindDancer13

The original poster to whom NY replied must be one of those crying the loudest for unity.

jcitybone

https://thinkprogress.org/delta-letter-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-union-busting-52f6e11c42ed/

Delta Airlines should immediately stop sabotaging efforts to unionize the ground crews that make their operations possible, a group of nine senators told Delta CEO Ed Bastian in a letter Wednesday.

The sharply worded note contrasts Bastian’s personal wealth to the “paycheck to paycheck” vulnerability his frontline workers experience. But beyond the surface text, the willingness of the senators to escalate critique of Delta hints at a wider political philosophy that could pose a far larger threat to major corporate profiteers across several industries.

“It has become clear that Delta’s management has a highly coordinated and strategic plan to suppress the efforts of over 40,000 workers,” the letter from Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), and other progressive stalwarts said. “Mr. Bastian, you earned almost $40 million in the last two years while paying workers who make Delta Air Lines arguably the most financially successful airline on the planet as little as $9 per hour.”

polarbear4

And not a minute too late. It’s really telling how ramped up efforts are to stop unions, to stop the sharing of wealth with workers. It’s amazing. It’s scary, because I feel like Bernie HAS to get in.

jcitybone

Oh Joy

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/bill-de-blasio-2020-presidential-announcement/index.html

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio will enter the 2020 Democratic presidential primary on Thursday morning, a senior Iowa Democrat with knowledge of the plans confirmed to CNN.

De Blasio’s Thursday entrance into the race, which was first reported by NBC News, will bring the total number of candidates to 23 with nearly nine months before the first votes are cast.

De Blasio will head out on the trail almost immediately following an appearance on ABC’s Good Morning America, traveling to Iowa and South Carolina on his early itinerary. The two-term mayor, who in 2017 became the first Democrat re-elected to his office in more than three decades, joins the race after months of deliberations and a handful of visits to early states like Iowa and New Hampshire.

Even before he made his plans official, de Blasio has come under fire — and some mockery — from the city’s unrelenting press corps, a group he’s clashed with repeatedly over the years and which openly delights in the mayor’s every misstep or misfortune. Still, his national profile is less defined, and de Blasio, as he introduces himself to Democrats outside New York, is expected to sell a record of progressive policy wins — bolstered by a racially diverse coalition of support — in a city with more residents than the home states of some of his rivals.

polarbear4

I’m getting a really bad feeling. Lowering expectations in the public’s mind. Machines easier to hack than ever. So many candidates chipping away.

I hope you are right, jcb. I hope you are right that they won’t be around in the end.

WindDancer13

They won’t be. Most of them have no grassroots support. Their rich backers will not be able to keep all those campaigns going, especially once they max out. They will cut their losses after the first debate, and trim a bit more after the second. Then they will pick a horse.

jcitybone

jcitybone

Good answer

polarbear4

polarbear4

polarbear4

polarbear4

The ratio.

polarbear4

Whoa.

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