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We are on the road!

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orlbucfan

You and JD have a ABFAB trip. Stay safe, keep an eyeball on the weather, and we’ll read yous next week. 🙂 T and R, Benny!! 🙂

magsview

Ohhh, such an artsy photo! I like it. 🙂

I hope you have a cooler filled with goodies in the back seat and that you have a fabulous trip!! Reports from the road and photos (artsy or otherwise) always welcomed. Please say hi to JD for me?

jcitybone

Thanks orl and Benny for the threads! Happy beginning of Memorial weekend.

I think this worry is overblown. At the end of the first contests and Super Tuesday, there will very likely be a clear leader between the two of them. The other one will drop out and hopefully give his/her full support to the other. I’m rooting for Bernie and I think it will be him, but if the voters decide Warren is the one, then I’m getting behind her because Biden needs to be beaten.

https://theweek.com/articles/843133/warren-sanders-want-beat-biden-need-drop

Of course, having invested time, money and soul into the effort to win the nomination, neither Warren nor Sanders will be dropping out anytime soon, especially not with hours of free media coming to them as part of the endless debate process, and with the Iowa caucuses still more than eight tedious months away. Nor should they. Both candidates and their supporters deserve a long chance to take the case directly to the primary electorate, to build momentum and to cut into Biden’s lead.

It is also possible that the primary becomes a three-way race after Super Tuesday, and that Biden pulls into the convention short of a pledged delegate majority, while Warren and Sanders combined have him beat. While that would give progressives a chance to claim the nomination, it also relies on the nightmare scenario of taking it away from the delegate leader, which would be both unlikely and unwise.

A more likely scenario is this: at some point, whether in September, in January or in March, either Warren or Sanders will have to fall on the sword of progressivism in an effort to help the other get elected. If neither is willing to do so, they’ll both be left fighting for primetime speaking slots in Milwaukee while Biden preps his acceptance speech.

jcitybone

Good roundup of Bernie’s plans.

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2019/05/24/bernie-sanders-on-social-security-10-things-you-sh.aspx

Sanders, who has plans to tackle of number of issues, should he win the presidency, has perhaps been most impassioned about his fight to strengthen Social Security. As a reminder, 63 million Americans are currently receiving a Social Security benefit check each month, with 90% of working Americans aged 21 to 64 covered in the event of a long-term disability and 96% of adults aged 20 to 49 with young children and/or a surviving spouse covered by survivors insurance.

Where exactly does Bernie Sanders stand on Social Security? Let’s take a closer look.

jcitybone

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/24/726433232/biden-sanders-highlight-familiar-split-in-democratic-party

That is not popular with progressives who want bold change, and they don’t trust Biden to hold the line on those principles.

“I will be damned if the same politicians who refused to act then [in recent decades] are going to try to come back today and say we need to find a middle-of-the-road approach to save our lives,” Progressive star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York said after hearing Biden could be crafting a “middle-of-the-road” climate change approach.

The split comes down to unity versus anger, restoration versus revolution.

“It’s a political revolution” that’s needed, said Larry Cohen, head of Our Revolution, an outside group supporting Sanders that grew out of his 2016 campaign. “Restoration in this country– what period are we going to go back to? The period of Jim Crow? State militias? We are moving forward, not restoration. To build a democracy here, it has to be inclusive — in a meaningful way.”

Case in point, Cohen said of Biden, “If he’s the nominee,” his group “will support him enthusiastically. At the end of the day, elections are binary. It’s like a light switch, I want the light on. It’s not a close call. There’s a huge difference between Vice President Biden and Donald Trump.”

That said, he added, “Now is the time to talk about what kind of nation we can be, and what can we get done — and let’s aim higher.”

jcitybone

So what’s the point of this lengthy article that concludes it won’t make a difference to voters?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/24/bernie-sanders-millionaires-226982

magsview

I made two replies on orlbucfan’s thread FWIW. I got ticked off when the article claimed that Harris’s net worth was only $400k (not true) and also a response to the Politico article in a Splinter article.

jcitybone

Facebook is garbage

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/may/24/facebook-leaves-fake-nancy-pelosi-video-on-site

Facebook says it will continue to host a video of Nancy Pelosi that has been edited to give the impression that the Democratic House Speaker is drunk or unwell, in the latest incident highlighting its struggle to deal with disinformation.

The viral clip shows Pelosi – who has publicly angered Donald Trump in recent days – speaking at an event, but it has been slowed down to give the impression she is slurring her words.

The president’s personal lawyer, the former mayor of New York Rudy Giuliani, was among the Trump supporters who promoted the story. He tweeted – then deleted – a link to a copy of the video on Facebook with the caption: “What is wrong with Nancy Pelosi? Her speech pattern is bizarre.”

Despite the apparently malicious intent of the video’s creator, Facebook has said it will only downgrade its visibility in users’ newsfeeds and attach a link to a third-party fact checking site pointing out that the clip is misleading. As a result, although it is less likely to be seen by accident, the doctored video will continue to rack up views. Facebook only took the action following inquiries from the Washington Post, which first reported the story.

Concerns have been raised in recent years about the impact of “deep fake” videos, where artificial intelligence technology is used to create disturbingly realistic videos. However, the Pelosi video shows that a low-tech approach can be successful. The clip, edited by an unknown producer, appears to have been created by simply slowing down raw footage – something that can be done in a matter of seconds on most smartphones.

A Facebook spokesperson said: “There’s a tension here: we work hard to find the right balance between encouraging free expression and promoting a safe and authentic community, and we believe that reducing the distribution of inauthentic content strikes that balance. But just because something is allowed to be on Facebook doesn’t mean it should get distribution. In other words, we allow people to post it as a form of expression, but we’re not going to show it at the top of News Feed.”

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Slowing it down isn’t a form of expression unless they tell you about it. Otherwise, I’m wondering if it’s bordering on illegal. If they can do this to Nancy, who’s to say they can’t do it to Bernie? Of course, we could turn it around and do it to Trump and maybe someone should just to show what’s happening.

And I’m no friend of Nancy’s.

magsview

The tech is out of the (toothpaste) tube. Smart kids might want to consider a career in identifying real video vs. fake video, because that’s coming up real fast.

Mona Lisa ‘brought to life’ with deepfake AI

It also made videos of Salvador Dali, Albert Einstein, Fyodor Dostoyevsky and Marilyn Monroe.

There was a mixed reaction to the video demonstrating how the system worked with one describing it as like “watching the future of SkyNet unfold”.

A fake video of President Barack Obama was created by Dr Supasorn Suwajanakorn in 2017.

What I’d like to know is WHY? Why is so much effort being put into this? Just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean you SHOULD do something.

Talking to the BBC, the researcher acknowledged that the technology could be misused but he added it could also be used as a force for good, such as allowing grieving relatives to create avatars of family members after they die.

Experts have previously said that fake videos of politicians could fool entire populations and the issues do not stop at political manipulation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48395521

Also, I’m not convinced that creating ‘avatars’ of dead family members is necessarily a “force for good”.

magsview

Facebook plans to launch ‘GlobalCoin’ currency in 2020

Facebook is finalising plans to launch its own crypto-currency next year.

It is planning to set up a digital payments system in about a dozen countries by the first quarter of 2020.

The social media giant wants to start testing its crypto-currency, which has been referred to internally as GlobalCoin, by the end of this year.

Nicknamed Project Libra, Facebook’s plans for a digital currency network were first reported last December.

The project will see it join forces with banks and brokers that will enable people to change dollars and other international currencies into its digital coins.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48383460

Would YOU trust facebook with your ‘private’ financial transactions?

Facebook (FB) Registers Secret Libra Crypto Project in Geneva as Data Privacy Concerns Loom

Facebook registered its crypto payments project in Geneva under the company name Libra Networks on May 2. According to a just released Reuters report the listing names Facebook Global as the main stakeholder.

The company will apparently focus on “investing, payments, financing, identity management, analytics, big data, blockchain and other technologies.”

The move has raised data privacy concerns, especially considering the conglomerate has a less than stellar data privacy record.

https://coincentral.com/facebook-fb-registers-secret-libra-crypto-project-in-geneva-as-data-privacy-concerns-loom/

jcitybone

WindDancer13

Thanks, Benny, for the post “what else is on your mind” because this is what is very much on my mind as we “celebrate” the deaths of so many this weekend.

FAQ ABOUT HOMELESS VETERANS

Who are homeless veterans?

The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) states that the nation’s homeless veterans are predominantly male, with roughly 9% being female. The majority are single; live in urban areas; and suffer from mental illness, alcohol and/or substance abuse, or co-occurring disorders. About 11% of the adult homeless population are veterans.

Roughly 45% of all homeless veterans are African American or Hispanic, despite only accounting for 10.4% and 3.4% of the U.S. veteran population, respectively.

Homeless veterans are younger on average than the total veteran population. Approximately 9% are between the ages of 18 and 30, and 41% are between the ages of 31 and 50. Conversely, only 5% of all veterans are between the ages of 18 and 30, and less than 23% are between 31 and 50.

America’s homeless veterans have served in World War II, the Korean War, Cold War, Vietnam War, Grenada, Panama, Lebanon, Persian Gulf War, Afghanistan and Iraq (OEF/OIF), and the military’s anti-drug cultivation efforts in South America. Nearly half of homeless veterans served during the Vietnam era. Two-thirds served our country for at least three years, and one-third were stationed in a war zone.

About 1.4 million other veterans, meanwhile, are considered at risk of homelessness due to poverty, lack of support networks, and dismal living conditions in overcrowded or substandard housing.

How many homeless veterans are there?

Although flawless counts are impossible to come by – the transient nature of homeless populations presents a major difficulty – the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) estimates that 40,056 veterans are homeless on any given night.

Approximately 12,700 veterans of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF), Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation New Dawn (OND) were homeless in 2010. The number of young homeless veterans is increasing, but only constitutes 8.8% of the overall homeless veteran population.

Boycott Memorial Day sales. This should be a day of reflection, not shopping.

Spend some time writing a plea against re-instating the draft to the National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service.

Don midwest
Don midwest

Yet another web site

For those who spent years on DK/TOP, one of the extremely competent people was Bob Swern. He has been in politics for decades including a major role in the McGovern campaign. He also took every opportunity to write about how Kos was full of it.

One of the sites he recommended and had permission to repost any item on DK was Naked Capitalism.

Over the years they have become much broader than finance which is their strength. One of the topics is MMT, modern monetary theory, which I have not figured out, but years ago a young man who posted extensively on DK was all in with this. It looks like important.

There are two main posters on Naked Capitalism – Yves Smith and Lambert. Lambert does extensive statistical and thoughtful reflections on elections.

I am posting something in full that he wrote a while ago because it concerns the Bernie campaign. I put in some white space into his comment which was one long paragraph.

Naked Capitalism 5/19/19
Lambert here: The Sanders canvassing operation will include voter registration and appeals to the “disaffected” as well as GOTV. There has been very little coverage of this so far; the Intercept focused on the canvassing app, about which there was a brief moral panic, even though every other campaign does the same thing. Politico focused on scale, and framed the effort as a repeat of the 2016 operation, done right. CNN focuses on the house parties, and the risks of a bottom-up, DIY campaign culture. I’ve been saying that the Sanders campaign has three strategic strengths or pillars that make it unique:

The mailing list (independent of the Democrat Party); the media operation (exemplified in this video, also independent); and the canvassing operation (also independent of the Democrat Party).
I’ve been asserting based on pure logic [lambert preens modestly] that the Sanders campaign must expand the base (which is both addled by RussiaRussiaRussia, and also contains a significant faction that prefers an Obama restoration in the form of a Biden Presidency); now here (hat tip again, DCBlogger) is the evidence that is exactly what they are doing, with the logic fully worked for the organizers.

Note that the structure of the Sanders campaign does not support existing narratives at all (even “frontrunner”), one reason — the other being opposition, or even hatred — that it has gotten little coverage in the press.

The metric for the mailing list pillar will be donor numbers; the metric for the media operation will be negative: attacks that fail to get traction in the mainstream, where one might have expected success (the Sanders open-access videos in Burlington come to mind), because there is a countervailing force in the media operation; and I’m not sure what the metric for the canvassing operation would be.

Votes, obviously, but before that! I don’t think house party counts are a good metric, because what if everybody just went home from the party feeling good about themselves, and then didn’t canvass? I’d have expected to see little incidents on the Twitter by now, as with DSA; perhaps the campaign has a policy against that. If so, good discipline! I guess I’m looking for the equivalent of yard signs…

orlbucfan

bobswern has posted on c99 over the last few months. He supports Bernie, and he gets slammed by a few of the regulars on there.

Don midwest
Don midwest

I’m not over there enough to notice that he has been around

Tyrannocaster

I post there occasionally; it’s a good site for links but the comments are full of don’t-mess-with-our-club people who already know everything. The moderators have very short fuses, too; I’ve never been hassled, but I have seen it happen quite a few times.

Don midwest
Don midwest

Lambert on Naked Capitalism summarizes article on Biden by the cartoonist Ted Rall

Biden (D)(2): “Why Joe Biden is the Least Electable Democrat” [Ted Rall, Counterpunch]. “The party is ramming Biden the corporatist down the throats of Democratic primary voters using classic divide-and-conquer. It will work. The Democrats will emerge from this nomination fight even more divided than the last cycle. Like the Mad Queen at the conclusion of ‘Game of Thrones,’ Biden will inherit the ruins of a party he destroyed.” • Rall says “a party he destroyed” like that’s a bad thing. That said, the party is genuinely divided, from voters to electeds to donors, from top to bottom (rather like Brexit, in fact). That situation wasn’t created by the Party apparatchiks.

Why Joe Biden is the Least Electable Democrat

Don midwest
Don midwest

The Exact Way the DNC will Deny Bernie Sanders the 2020 Nomination

lots and lots of candidates

which means that we have to continue to work hard

Don midwest
Don midwest

orlbucfan

Bullhockey, it started with Raygun.

magsview

Small Greek Island First in Aegean to Ban Single-Use Plastic

It’s only a tiny island of 200 residents, but it’s a start!

The ban is taking effect two years before the March 2019 European Union directive, which mandates that all member states eliminate disposable plastics.

Officials already took action on April 5, when they distributed information kits to island residents. Residents also filled participation forms and exchanged single-use plastics with recyclable ones.

https://www.pappaspost.com/small-greek-island-first-in-aegean-to-ban-single-use-plastic/

magsview

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Comment in the thread:

I work in an office on this street and it was a sight to behold (and hear). Took a solid 20 minutes for the 1000s of tamariki to pass by. An inspiring experience to say the least. #ClimateStrike

(tamariki means children in Maori)

magsview

Ooops, the comment about watching thousands of ‘tamariki’ passing by was obviously meant for Wellington’s (NZ) Climate Strike action!

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magsview

We are facing the prospect of Boris Johnson as our next Prime Minister. We are about to be led through a huge political crisis by someone who is a combination of every spoilt child who failed to make it to the end of Willy Wonka’s factory tour.

jcitybone

About that stupid Politico piece on Bernie’s wealth

https://splinternews.com/politico-to-bernie-curious-how-you-also-participate-i-1835004226

Bernie is not saying that everyone should be an anarcho-socialist who gives up all personal wealth and tries to camp out on public lands until they get in an armed standoff with a park ranger. He’s not promising to take office and outlaw the capitalist practice of “writing books and selling them.” What he and many other candidates including Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren are saying is that people who write bestselling books and make a lot of money off of them should have to pay more taxes. Also, people who own the companies that sell the books and make billions off of them should have to pay a lot more taxes. These are not difficult positions to square with one another, and it’s shocking that any credulous editor would let a piece predicated on a thesis this sloppy go to print.

Kruse makes a big deal about presenting this information in a slightly different tone that the typical Fox News attack against Sanders for being rich, despite the fact that they’re doing almost exactly the same thing.

jcitybone

This is good

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/24/democrats-undercard-june-1344368

A new rule adopted by the Democratic National Committee and NBC News will evenly divide top-tier candidates across two nights in the first Democratic presidential primary debates in June, a move to maintain viewer interest in both events by making sure well-known contenders are on stage both nights.

Democrats getting at least 2 percent support in the polling average will be randomly and evenly split between the two nights, which will each feature 10 candidates, according to the formula obtained by POLITICO. Candidates below that threshold will also be evenly and randomly divided between the two debate lineups.

“The final list of debate participants (after any tie-breaking procedure is executed, if necessary) will be divided into two groups: candidates with a polling average of 2% or above, and those with a polling average below 2%,” the rule reads. “Both groups will be randomly divided between Wednesday night and Thursday night, thus ensuring that both groups are represented fairly on each night.”

The rule will not keep any two candidates from appearing onstage together. But it will prevent random chance from loading one night with polling leaders and the other night with less well-known presidential candidates. NBC News is the media partner for the first debates on June 26-27.

Eight candidates have a polling average at or above 2 percent right now: Joe Biden, Cory Booker, Pete Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Beto O’Rourke, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. With the newly announced rule, four would be guaranteed to appear on the first night, and four would be guaranteed to appear on the second night.

jcitybone

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445463-inslee-hits-65000-donor-threshold-for-primary-debate

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D) has received donations from more than 65,000 people, qualifying him for a coveted spot on a crowded stage in the first Democratic presidential debates, to be held next month.

Inslee’s campaign received its 65,000th donation on Friday, campaign spokesman Jared Leopold said. The campaign saw a 40 percent spike in donations in the last three weeks after Inslee rolled out a series of policy initiatives aimed at climate change.

Inslee had already met the other requirement that would have put him on the debate stage by scoring 1 percent support in three separate public opinion polls.

Meeting the donor threshold will score him one of 20 spots reserved for Democratic candidates across two nights in Miami.

jcitybone

Of course, this is led by Gottheimer

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/05/47-democrats-cave-on-net-neutrality-after-gop-calls-bill-dead-on-arrival/

Republican lawmakers say they’ll only accept a net neutrality law that isn’t as strict—even though large majorities of both Democratic and Republican voters support the FCC’s old net neutrality rules. On Wednesday, dozens of Democrats asked their party leadership to compromise with the GOP leadership.

“We, the undersigned, voted for [the Save the Internet Act] because it represented an opportunity to resolve questions that courts have struggled with for decades,” the Democrats wrote in a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). “At the same time, we recognize that this legislation is unlikely to become law, or pass through the Senate, in its current form. If that proves true, consumers will be left without enforceable net neutrality protections while partisan conflict continues. We believe this result is unacceptable and unnecessary.”

The letter to Pelosi was led by Reps. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.) and Scott Peters (D-Calif.) and signed by another 45 Democratic members of the House. It goes on to suggest that the House create “a bipartisan working group” that would write a net neutrality law that’s acceptable to Republican lawmakers.

The Democrats’ letter to Pelosi said the proposed bipartisan working group should be modeled on “the Wicker-Sinema effort in the Senate,” which is led by Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), the only Senate Democrat who didn’t co-sponsor the Save the Internet Act.

Tyrannocaster

With Dems like these, who needs Republicans?

orlbucfan

What do you think Turd Wayers are? GOPuke Lite/YUPPIES.

Torabs
Torabs

Also featuring Lipinski and damned Debbie. Throw these phonies out of the big tent, they are worse than Republicans in my book (Republicans are more honest about who they represent!).

jcitybone

https://www.wcax.com/content/news/510397572.html

Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign will return this weekend to his home state for the first time since he entered the race. But first, he sat down with our Kyle Midura for a one-on-one interview.

Sanders, I-Vermont, said there’s a big difference between this race and 2016, over just a few years his ideas went from fringe to mainstream.

“The issues we are talking about are issues that speak to the needs of working families and the middle-class and low-income people,” Sanders said.

His campaign pitches include criminal justice and immigration reform, tightening gun laws, and fighting for racial and gender equality. But the primary theme continues to be economic justice. Sanders promises crackdowns on big banks, big agriculture and wealthy tax-evaders, as well as jobs, fewer financial traps and better services for those struggling for their financial survival.

“Some of your critics have suggested you’re too old, too white, too male…” we began to ask Sanders.

He put his hand to his ear, “What’d you say?” he asked in a loud voice followed by a laugh. “No, look, I feel great,” he said. “If people consider age a factor that’s fine,” Sanders added, “I would hope people look at the totality of one’s life and experience, and I think if they do that, I think we’ll do pretty well.”

Sanders will hold a rally in Vermont Saturday on the Statehouse lawn. From there, he’ll make stops in New Hampshire and Nevada- key early primary states.

orlbucfan

If the weather cooperates, that event will be packed. Bigger than 2016. They need to play the “America” spot to start the rally. 🙂

jcitybone

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-to-order-additional-forces-to-middle-east/

President Trump is ordering more troops to the Middle East as tensions between the United States and Iran continue to rise. The U.S. will also send more Patriot missile batteries and other force protection systems, and will be designed for the long-haul confrontation with Iran, CBS News’ David Martin reports, citing U.S. officials.

The move follows Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan’s denial of reports Thursday that between 5,000 to 10,000 U.S. troops could be sent to the region to defend against the potential threat by Iran.

President Trump confirmed that the number was “about 1,500 people” before departing to Japan. Congressional aides confirm to CBS News that Congress was previously notified the administration’s plans to send troops to the Middle East.

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LieparDestin

jcitybone

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/24/julian-assange-extradition-espionage-congress/

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT filed 17 charges against WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange on Thursday, deploying the controversial Espionage Act as a cudgel against First Amendment protections and press freedom. It’s the first time the U.S. government has used the Espionage Act to prosecute a publisher, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Democratic presidential candidates Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, along with Sen. Ron Wyden, who all have been outspoken on civil liberties issues, slammed the indictment.

“Let me be clear: it is a disturbing attack on the First Amendment for the Trump administration to decide who is or is not a reporter for the purposes of a criminal prosecution,” Sanders wrote in a tweet Friday afternoon after The Intercept contacted his office for comment. “Donald Trump must obey the Constitution, which protects the publication of news about our government.”

Warren distanced herself from Assange but condemned the Justice Department’s move to curtail press freedom. “Assange is a bad actor who has harmed U.S. national security — and he should be held accountable,” Warren said in a statement. “But Trump should not be using this case as a pretext to wage war on the First Amendment and go after the free press who hold the powerful accountable everyday.”

“This is not about Julian Assange,” Wyden said in a statement. “This is about the use of the Espionage Act to charge a recipient and publisher of classified information. I am extremely concerned about the precedent this may set and potential dangers to the work of journalists and the First Amendment.”

LieparDestin

Warren distanced herself from Assange but condemned the Justice Department’s move to curtail press freedom. “Assange is a bad actor who has harmed U.S. national security — and he should be held accountable,” Warren said in a statement. 

How exactly? By keeping him locked up in an embassy instead of a prison.

weak sauce statement imo

polarbear4

Two good articles on the mess that dems have created for NPP (Independent) voters.

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The drip drip of the MSM makes a difference.

“Among respondents who said that they had backed Sanders in 2016, 39 percent said they were supporting him this time.”

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