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https://www.freep.com/story/news/marijuana/2019/07/16/michigan-marijuana-bill-misdemeanor-crime/1743810001/

LANSING – Misdemeanors involving low-level marijuana use and possession would be automatically cleared from Michiganders’ records under a bill that will be introduced this week by Sen. Jeff Irwin, D-Ann Arbor.

The bill would allow roughly 235,000 people to have their misdemeanor records for marijuana use and possession automatically expunged without having to go through the courts”We would go in through the Michigan State Police’s database and make changes to records electronically and administratively without having to go through all the time and expense of going through the courts,” Irwin said. “This is so important to a large number of people in Michigan … who when they’re applying for jobs or student loans, they’re put in a position where their record can affect their future.”

magsview

I just love this trend!!

jcitybone

https://www.salon.com/2019/07/17/whose-country-is-broken-and-crime-infested-mr-president-spoiler-its-ours/

Stumbling and sputtering under the blindness of his own hatred and ignorance, Trump might have actually fallen into an honest and accurate assessment of the United States. He not only told the congresswomen to go back to their countries of origin — for three of them that means staying right where they are — but described those places as “broken and crime infested.”

Unique in the developed world, thousands of Americans die every year for lack of health insurance and medical debt is the No. 1 contributor to bankruptcy in the United States. The “greatest nation in the world,” to use Trump’s phrase from his recent exercise in derangement (otherwise known as a press conference), also has a higher infant mortality rate than every other comparably wealthy country, and even higher than many countries with far fewer resources, like Bosnia, Taiwan and Malta.

And on and on

jcitybone

California up for grabs among top 4 according to this poll. Buttigieg appears to be getting left behind in recent polls. The poll says Harris is surging but actually Warren went up more.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Kamala-Harris-running-neck-and-neck-with-Biden-14101148.php

Sen. Kamala Harris is locked in a statistical dead heat for the California Democratic presidential primary in a new survey, although most of those polled say former Vice President Joe Biden has the best chance of defeating President Trump.

That’s one of several mixed messages in the poll released Wednesday by Quinnipiac University of Connecticut, which shows the California senator surging in her home state after her performance in the first Democratic debate in June.

Harris was backed by 23% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters surveyed, Quinnipiac said. Biden had 21% and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders had 18%, both within the poll’s margin of error, and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren had 16%.

Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., lagged well behind at 3%. Tech entrepreneur Andrew Yang was at 2%, and the rest of the large field of candidates was at 1% or less.

Harris was in third place in the primary field in an April survey by Quinnipiac, at 17%. Biden was in the top spot then with 26%, while Sanders was second with 18%, and Warren was fourth with 7%.

polarbear4

magsview

Too many people are ignoring all of the extinction trends.

Is it you who posted this? (see attached)

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Benny

Maybe it’s cynicism, but I think DNC is still concerned about Bernie staying 2-3 in the polls, especially with Biden likely to slip. This is the race for delegates.

polarbear4

i wish the msm would be truthful about what’s going in here.

polarbear4

Benny

We’ve noticed a lot of birdies on our trip, but none attacking humans!

There was the cutest family (can’t recall the species) bobbing down the San Juan river when we were on float trip the other day. Also saw some golden eagles.

magsview

Sounds lovely.

polarbear4

ahhh! 😎

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orlbucfan

Many thanks again to the brave individuals on here who brave the Twit(ter) swamp. 🙂

polarbear4

it’s an addiction. 😜

magsview

For me it’s not nearly as bad as facebook!!

I go to fb on occasion to keep up with some family and friends, but there are too many passive aggressive memes (for ex. ‘Pay close attention to who checks up on you and who doesn’t’ posted by a friend who doesn’t check up on me, lol), constant selfies that you’re supposed to like and tell them, for the millionth time, that they look so beautiful, people who post crazy conspiracy theories and crappy political nonsense. I often log out of fb depressed.

Twitter is far more tame for me than fb.

polarbear4

I barely go on Facebook anymore. As you say, it gets overwhelming, hoping to keep up with everyone and/or participate in a group. Seeing grandkids and staying in touch with some family/friends is important, though, and Twitter doesn’t provide that.

magsview

I’m in a handful of fb groups, one local, one revolving around my old haunt aways away when I was a rocker girl, lol, and the rest are all wildlife groups. The wildlife groups really help temper the nonsense on fb.

Benny

The opposite now is true for me. I created two accounts on FB so that one could be for politics, the other for family and friends. I don’t get too many notifications on either. Twitter–vile creatins there, including our POTUS who keeps attacking the Squad. Pelosi should have not attacked them in the first place. Trump weaponizes anything Pelosi says being the bigot and misogynist that he is.

WindDancer13

I created a FB account and set it up but rarely go there to the point that I get unpublished a lot. It is mostly a storage bin for some old memes I created in 2015/16.

On Twitter I follow six accounts, two of them being Bernie’s and one from Sirota.

magsview

I’ve learned how to stay away from a lot of the ugliness (thank goodness) and can usually avoid Trump’s awful tweets-I see them just often enough to remind me to avoid them…basically. Pelosi’s tweets haven’t helped at all.

Tyrannocaster

I don’t find Twitter to be that bad, but I don’t use it right. I don’t follow anybody; instead, I have a list of people whose accounts I check on, and I go to interesting people who comment. But if I were actually following all those people it would be a nightmare each time I go to Twitter.

Of course, this is not how Twitter is supposed to be used.

magsview

If not for twitter I may never have heard of axolotls 😀

jcitybone

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/politics/bernie-sanders-medicare-for-all-speech-no-insurance-pharma-donation-pledge/index.html

Sen. Bernie Sanders will challenge Democratic primary candidates to reject donations from private health insurance and pharmaceutical interests during a Wednesday speech billed by his campaign as a rebuttal to intraparty criticism of “Medicare for All.”

“You can’t change a corrupt system by taking its money,” the Vermont independent will say, according to prepared remarks. “Candidates who are not willing to take (the ‘no health insurance and pharma money’) pledge should explain to the American people why those interests believe their campaigns are a good investment.”

Sanders is asking his primary opponents to pledge to “refuse to knowingly accept any contributions over $200 from the PACs, lobbyists, or top executives of health insurance or pharmaceutical companies.” Donations from “rank-and-file” industry employees would not come under scrutiny.

Sanders on Wednesday is also expected to ask whether the Democratic candidates in the field who say they support Medicare for All, including his four Senate colleagues who signed on as cosponsors, are prepared to unequivocally reject any significant future role for private insurers.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren raised her hand during a debate last month when the candidates were asked if they’d be willing to abolish the industry as part of establishing single-payer. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, who wrote the bill’s transition plan, and Sen. Cory Booker have said private insurers should not be shut out entirely.

Sen. Kamala Harris’ stance is less clear. She has insisted that Medicare for All would not completely wipe out the industry. But that is true only up to a point — with the bill only leaving room for, as Sanders himself has said, private insurers to cover certain elective procedures, like cosmetic surgery.

jcitybone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-vows-to-reject-donations-from-drug-and-health-insurance-industry-seeking-to-pressure-biden/2019/07/17/b67485b2-a813-11e9-a3a6-ab670962db05_story.html?utm_term=.79b3d4fa43b1

Sanders’s pledge underscores his desire to expand the debate over health care beyond the competing policy proposals and shows how his campaign is seizing on health care as an effective issue to wield against the more centrist Biden — a fight Biden appears to welcome. Sanders has opted not to hold fundraisers catering to wealthy donors and is not seen by insurance and drug companies as an ally.

Biden, in contrast, has some ties to those industries. He has received four-figure donations from executives at companies such as Merck & Co. Inc., Independence Blue Cross and Gilead Sciences, campaign finance records show.

Other Democratic candidates have also accepted contributions from industry officials or lobbyists. According to campaign finance records, they include two candidates on the rise in the polls: Sen. Kamala D. Harris (Calif.) and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

Candidates who take such corporate donations dismiss the notion that it makes them beholden to powerful industries, pointing to their record and their platform. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), perhaps Sanders’s most direct rival for the party’s liberal voters, has eschewed big-donor fundraising events.

Sanders’s pledge marks one of his most aggressive moves of the campaign. Since launching a second run for president in February, Sanders has mostly focused on his own pitch for transformational change.

jcitybone

Buttigieg is definitely not on the rise in the polls any longer. For example, see today’s Quinnipiac poll. Last poll he and Warren were tied at 7. This poll she has 16 and he has 3. Not much bang for the buck for all those Mayor Pete donors!

magsview

No, he seems to have hit some kind of ceiling. It’s kind of strange considering how much money he’s raised.

Tyrannocaster

Nobody but well-off white people likes him. That will get you a ways in the Democratic party, but not far enough.

magsview

Sen. Kamala Harris’ stance is less clear

LOL, oh my, thanks for the laugh.

magsview

EyeRound
EyeRound

How to torpedo M4A before it even gets on the table.

Love that fundraising profile for Pallone. Now we may ask what’s going on with Patty Murray from WA?

polarbear4

magsview

Wow, that’s a great question! (“boil down” to two minute summary)

Tyrannocaster

Good point. I wouldn’t be surprised if he does it. If he does, though, would anybody in the media outside of Twitter cover it?

polarbear4

haha!

Benny

Her so-called analysis is abysmal. Antagonistic to progressive movement in fiscal policy especially.

Benny
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magsview

magsview

Just saw LD’s link, hopefully at least one of them works for you!

magsview

polarbear4

One is bankrupting me and the other is practically nonexistent.

magsview

Sorry polarbear, I feel ya.

Are there any other candidates trying to get us little guys mental and dental health care?

polarbear4

caught the end. He sounded strong.

magsview

!

polarbear4

Aren’t they just shooting themselves? Their voters need healthcare and I’d bet a lot of them use community health centers.

jcitybone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/07/17/democratic-lawmakers-accuse-their-own-party-proposing-deep-cuts-health-centers-poor/?utm_term=.f8be47291f23

The plan backed by Pallone, while better than letting the funding expire altogether, would amount to a nearly 20 percent funding reduction over four years for the clinics, almost certainly cutting the amount of medical, vision, dental, and mental health care they can provide primarily low-income Americans, said Sara Rosenbaum, a health expert at George Washington University who studies community health clinics.

“For the Democrats in the House to propose flat funding, as opposed to an adjustment over time, I was really worried and taken aback,” Rosenbaum said. “You’d have to scale back your hours, scale back your sites.”

“I know the community health centers are very happy about it, and all the people who support them are very happy about it,” Pallone added. “They’re getting $16 billion. There was a time they were going month-to-month, and now they’re talking about four years.”

A spokesman for Pallone did not provide the names of community health centers who supported the legislation.

Ocasio-Cortez, who led the liberal opposition to the border measure, said in a statement: “I want us to use our majority to fight for these families — not allow a 20 percent cut.” Khanna also said: “Why would we vote to cut community health centers and push more than 3 million low-income Americans off their care?”

But the most significant criticism of Pallone’s legislation may be Jayapal, who as co-chair of the progressive caucus can influence the voting of other members.

In a statement, Jayapal said the 28 million people who rely on health centers “cannot afford what would effectively result in deep cuts to this funding lifeline.” She added: “Congress should act quickly to ensure that these health centers have the money they need to take care of the individuals in their communities.”

WindDancer13

Interesting history lesson (I highly recommend setting the speed to 1.25 or 1.50 as the women is a terrible speaker):

Note: She gets the dating of the advent of computers wrong, but otherwise makes great points. There is no Part 2 yet.

WindDancer13

Of course it is. At the same time, it gives him a chance to interact with his white supremacist base.

WindDancer13

Good interview with Shahid Buttar, Pelosi’s challenger.

polarbear4

magsview

I imagine that threats like that will really turn out the voters.

But that’s ok, if Trump wins they already have someone to blame. I can tell that Third Way is really on my side.

/s

p.s. I loved it when Bernie called Third Way out in the interview on Tim Black’s segment! And he used TW to illustrate how it’s not being “paranoid”-they really ARE out to get him. Lemons into lemonade stuff right there.

polarbear4

yes, glad you could see that this was a respnse to a turd way shaming tweet.

WindDancer13

Another horror story: This time wrapped up in the “good” parenting mythology of early childhood education.

This is a particular peeve of mine. I am all for quality child care. Children need a healthy and safe environment. What I disagree with is children being pushed to learn. So called pre-K (and for that matter kindergarten) should be a time for children to be shown how to get along with and share with each other, to explore the world through a child’s eyes…a social learning time.

Most children have an innate curiosity and love of learning. Quit pushing them to be tiny little adults. Let them have a childhood. It is often too short as it is as many are forced to take on the worries of their parents and their community.

WindDancer13

Break time:

WindDancer13

I don’t think many Amazon shoppers have payed attention to the fact that Amazon is merely a middle man for products. They are not a creator of products, just a distributor. By the way, on a side note for those who do shop there, there is illegal software being sold on the platform.

magsview

I read someone say just yesterday (was in a thread talking about Amazon’s $10 credit offer ‘if you let it track the websites you visit.’) that Amazon sent them a picture of their recent delivery. And it made me glad I don’t use Amazon (but know small sellers who say it’s a necessity to sell there).

WindDancer13

Necessity is supposed to be the mother of invention. There are other outlets (e.g., Rakuten and NewEgg) that also sell stuff from independents as well as EBay and others. It is a choice to go with Amazon.

magsview

One of my friends used to sell on Ebay, but Ebay upped their fees and doesn’t get the same traffic that it used to. This particular friend is a retired firefighter who supplements his modest (and insufficient) pension by selling on Amazon. One thing he loves is the way he can scan book barcodes via Amazon.

Don’t get me wrong! I myself never buy from Amazon so thanks for those tips about other outlets.

WindDancer13

I don’t shop at Amazon either, but I do use them for reviews and price comparisons. Some places will do price matching so I hunt for who has the lowest prices then buy from my preferred outlets. There are a lot more buying sources besides the ones I mentioned, but most are more limited in scope.

Sometimes, I look to see who has a good price at Amazon in their who else is selling an item section and get the name of the seller to contact directly.

Convenience is going to be the death of us all.

magsview

magsview

Heartless SOB! Grrrrrr

magsview

WindDancer13

USA! USA! USA! We are so great that we cannot see beyond the end of our stuck-up noses.

The world’s first ‘minister for future generations

“I think it’s probably one of the coolest job descriptions in the world; to act as guardian of the interests of future generations.”

As Future Generations Commissioner for Wales, Sophie Howe’s job is – put simply – to make tomorrow a better place. There’s certainly no other role quite like it. Wales is currently the only country in the world to employ someone in such a position, which was created after the Welsh Assembly passed the Well-being of Future Generations Act in 2015. The trailblazing legislation requires all Welsh public bodies to ensure that the decisions they make today don’t compromise the Welsh citizens of tomorrow.

From councils and national parks to the health service, all are legally obliged to consider the long-term social, cultural, environmental and economic wellbeing impact of their decisions, in a non-party political way.


In 2018, two years since the act came into force, the Wales Audit Office – reviewing progress so far – found good examples of public bodies working differently, but said organisations must now show they are applying the act “more systematically”.

The act, and Howe’s post, have attracted interest from foreign governments, including officials in the Netherlands, Finland and South Korea, where she has been invited to speak.

Imagine . . .

WindDancer13

Why does this sound so familiar?

At :28

You do not have to be a racist to support racist policies, but it helps.

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magsview

Biden’s angry asshole side really coming out this year. He’s beginning to remind me of my racist FIL when he gets cranky and starts yelling over everyone.

WindDancer13

Hope he keeps it up. People need to see this side of him, so he needs to be pushed. Also hopefully, many see this as a weakness rather than some kind of strength.

One reason the usage of the same statement niggles at me is that I saw many pundits yesterday saying that it is a standard racist statement (at least two comedians saying Trump had no bones) that is used for denial. No one said a word when Biden said the exact same thing.

jcitybone

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/453531-liberal-democrats-warn-well-sink-minimum-wage-bill-if-moderates-change-it

Progressive lawmakers warned Wednesday that they’re ready to sink a Democratic bill to increase the minimum wage if the measure is amended ahead of the vote.

Reps. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) and Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), who co-chair the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said members of the group are poised to vote en masse against legislation to hike the wage floor to $15 per hour if a procedural motion offered by Republicans is adopted beforehand.

The message is a clear warning to moderate Democrats, some of whom have joined Republicans this year in supporting last-minute procedural gambits — known as motions to recommit — which grant the minority party a last-ditch opportunity to alter legislation before a final vote.

polarbear4

polarbear4

For some reason the top tweet isn’t showing, at least for me.

magsview

I can see it!

polarbear4

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polarbear4

definitely playing to the hill but crowd. I’m sad.

polarbear4

heh. hillbot

polarbear4

jeez.

polarbear4

i leave you eith this 😁🥰🔥🦜🦜😂😂

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