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WindDancer13

Is this a fair question? Both GWB and Trump stumble and fumble in speeches and in press conferences (add Twitter fro Trump). Are these types of cognitive errors exclusive to conservatives who must manipulate reality to push their agenda? If so, what does that say about Biden?

magsview

To your second question, I would suggest that it indicates a lack of genuineness, Biden is a walking ‘talking point’ machine. I don’t really buy his nice guy act.

I like how Krystal ended the segment,

“I would just urge anyone who is supporting Biden right now, look, there is a lot to admire about his personal characteristics, about the life that he’s led, all of that is true, however just really watch and listen and ask yourself, if this the person who can beat Donald Trump, because I just don’t see it.”

WindDancer13

This is quickly becoming one of my favorite YouTube channels:

Even though they clearly favor Bernie (not 100% sure of that with Saagar), they do not let him off the hook on issues.

magsview

Me too! Like LD, I can’t believe I’m finding a show from The Hill so watchable and informative.

20,000,000 students currently enrolled in college!

Somewhat ironic that with ACA allowing young people to stay on their parents’ h/c plans (obviously assuming their parents do have a plan) health care is not really an issue for college students.

Had a twitter conversation with someone recently who had a problem with MFA, he said he didn’t want to be forced off his insurance plan, so I asked him if he got his plan from his workplace and he answered that he was still on his parent’s h/c plan.

jcitybone

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/13/20804385/endangered-species-act-trump-administration-air-quality-climate-action-fish-wildlife

But there are also ramifications for humans and the planet if the Endangered Species Act is weakened. By making it easier to kick species off the list of officially endangered and threatened wildlife, land that was once off limits is likely to become fair game for digging up more fossil fuels that contribute to pollution and climate change.

“Weakening the #EndangeredSpecies Act is all about making it easier to mine for coal and drill for oil,” Inslee tweeted Monday. “So this isn’t just bad for the bald eagle or the grizzly bear — it’s bad for our kids and their health.”

Sierra Club’s Kirin Kennedy told The Verge, “Lack of clean air due to pollution put out by extractive industries means lack of clean air for human populations as well. So what the Endangered Species Act does in providing protections for wildlife have an upstream impact on humans.”

Some humans will feel that impact sooner than others. “Indigenous people were at the forefront of the struggle to preserve [Endangered Species Act] protections for the sacred grizzly bear,” Tom Rodgers, vice president of the Global Indigenous Council and senior advisor to the Rocky Mountain Tribal Leaders Council, told The Verge in an email. Attempts at prematurely removing species from the endangered and threatened species list, according to Rodgers, “are ‘Trojan Horses’ to tribal sovereignty, treaty rights, and religious freedoms.”

jcitybone

orlbucfan

It will be the old tired FRightwingnut hysteria rap yet again: Oh my gawd, the deficit, the deficit is too big and growing…let’s fix it by cutting Medicaid, food stamps, anything that helps the poor and the out-of-work working class.

WindDancer13

Colbert is on a roll, but I have an ulterior motive for posting this particular clip. For quite some time now, I have been watching the people who are standing behind Trump’s podium at his rallies.

As we often see clips of his speeches during comedy routines or news, we can gauge the reactions of those people regularly. Their expressions and reactions are often contrary to what is being heard from the audience.

I do not know how this group is chosen, but they are not nearly as enamored with Trump as some would have us believe. I have seen actual disgust and even fear from some of them over a comment he has made during the rally. There are numerous reasons a person would go to a Trump rally, apparently being a 100% Trump supporter is not one of them.

This clip is an example; although, this crowd is much more subdued than usual and Trump is not getting the laughs he was straining so hard to get.

Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death
Aint Supposed to Die A Natural Death

Sorry, link didn’t work. Cancellled

WindDancer13

LOL.

jcitybone

https://thinkprogress.org/the-battle-to-save-gun-control-by-destroying-it/

Now that Republicans have a lock on the Supreme Court, however, it’s far from clear that this belief in courts’ limited power will hold.

The groups urging the Supreme Court to ignore its longstanding mootness doctrine in New York State Rifle include not just gun owners, but prominent anti-government groups and the nation’s preeminent Christian right law firm. After all, why would you want to restrict the power of the judiciary when it’s controlled by your friends?

If the Supreme Court decides that federal jurisdiction should be more expansive now that Republicans have consolidated power, the impact will be widespread. To take just one high-profile example, a federal judge in Texas held that the entire Affordable Care Act must be repealed on a highly dubious legal theory. Among the many problems with this case, the plaintiffs rest their lawsuit on a claim that they were injured by a provision of the law that literally does nothing.

These plaintiffs, in other words, lack standing to bring their suit — as least as the concept of standing has long been understood.

New York State Rifle will be an early warning sign. It will tell us a great deal about whether the Republican Supreme Court will open the floodgates to aggressive uses of judicial power like this Obamacare case.

And it’s also an important case in its own right. If the Supreme Court reaches the merits in New York State Rifle, there are almost certainly five votes to dismantle much of America’s gun laws.

magsview

polarbear4

magsview

That account is on the top 10 list of absolutely awful accounts on twitter. At this point I’m not sure how much lower MSNBC can go.

(In case you didn’t hear, Brian Williams over at MSDNC posted that terrible tweet from the ‘Hoarse’ guy on air last night, one of the 0.00001% of the negative tweets on the #MyBernieStory thread the other day instead of, you know, showing one of the poignant personal stories found there, but there’s no bias against Sanders in the MSM…)

polarbear4

OzoneTom
OzoneTom

Hopefully some marginally-informed viewers will be intrigued sufficiently to check out other peoples entries.

In a search for more juicy anti-Bernie material, they might come away with better understanding instead.

Perhaps a similar briar-patch to the one the outlets tried with the Joe Rogan “alien” comments. They sure drove a lot of new views to that interview.

polarbear4

i like this take!

magsview

I like the way you think.

polarbear4

yikes. the koch bros

polarbear4

polarbear4

polarbear4

Don midwest
Don midwest

Geta is on the way!

Fascinating graphic showing wind pasterns

Sailboat heading to NYC

here is live tracker

https://www.borisherrmannracing.com/a-race-we-must-win/

WindDancer13

Flashback: This was in my YouTube recommended list . . . 11 years late.

Please send to all HRC leftovers still crying about 2016.

WindDancer13

Is there any industry that Trump made promises to in 2016 that his policies have actually benefited? Note: He did not promise to help Wall St and corporations.

jcitybone

Busy Sunday in SC

https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/election/article233954442.html

In a return visit to South Carolina this weekend, U.S. senator and 2020 presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders will visit a prominent African American church and campaign in two historic black neighborhoods in Columbia.

The Vermont Independent and democratic socialist will be focusing on his economic, racial, social and environmental policies during several stops in Columbia, according to a statement from his campaign.

Sanders will kick off his trip Sunday with a lunch at Brookland Baptist Church. The event is open to the public, and doors will open at 11:30 a.m.

At 1 p.m., Sanders will do a walking tour of the Booker Washington Heights neighborhood. The tour is co-hosted by the South Carolina Democratic Party Black Caucus.

An hour later, Sanders will hold a town hall meeting at the Greenview Park Gym, located in another historic Columbia neighborhood. He will be accompanied by Sen. Nina Turner, Phillip Agnew, State Rep. Justin Bamberg, D-Bamberg, and Columbia Mayor Steve Benjamin.

At 3:30 p.m., Sanders will be hosting a block party in Hopkins. Attendees are encouraged to RSVP for the event online.

Sanders’ schedule shows an emphasis on reaching South Carolina’s black voters, which make up about two-thirds of the Palmetto State’s Democratic primary voters.

jcitybone

And here’s an SC poll

Bernie (+7) was the big gainer from their last SC poll in June. Other movement was Harris (+3), Warren (0), Biden (-1), and Buttigieg (-5)

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457373-biden-tops-democratic-field-by-19-points-in-new-south-carolina-poll

Former Vice President Joe Biden tops the field of Democratic presidential candidates in South Carolina, carrying a double-digit lead over his closest rival, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), according to a new poll of Democratic voters in the Palmetto State.

The survey, from The Post and Courier newspaper in Charleston and Change Research, showed Biden registered 36 percent support among South Carolina Democratic voters. That’s more than twice the support for Warren, who came in at 17 percent.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), meanwhile, is statistically tied with Warren, taking 16 percent in the poll. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg round out the top five with 12 percent and 5 percent respectively.

Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) are the only other candidates to score more than 1 percent in the poll, notching 4 percent and 2 percent, respectively.

polarbear4

jcitybone

Bernie is +3 since last week, Warren +2, and Biden -4. This poll shows the closest race by far compared to other polls.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/457387-biden-just-one-point-ahead-of-warren-in-new-weekly-tracking-poll

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is trailing former Vice President Joe Biden by just 1 point in a new Economist–YouGov weekly tracking poll.

Biden sits at 21 percent support in the survey, while Warren is close behind at 20 percent. The next candidate is Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at 16 percent support among voters.

polarbear4

among *certain* voters

jcitybone

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/14/no-chance-of-us-uk-deal-if-northern-ireland-peace-at-risk-pelosi

There is no chance of Congress approving a US-UK trade agreement if Brexit undermines the Good Friday peace agreement in Northern Ireland, the speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, has said.

Pelosi was restating the entrenched position of congressional Democrats and many Republicans in the wake of remarks made by Donald Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, during a visit to London this week.

Bolton had said that Britain and the US could sign interim, partial free trade deals, one sector at a time, which would go through the a fast track legislative process, to help the UK cope economically if there is a no-deal Brexit on 31 October.

In a statement on Wednesday, the House speaker, who commands a Democratic majority, warned that the Trump administration would not be able to sidestep congressional approval.

“Whatever form it takes, Brexit cannot be allowed to imperil the Good Friday agreement, including the seamless border between the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland, especially now, as the first generation born into the hope of Good Friday 21 years ago comes into adulthood.” Pelosi said. “We cannot go back.”

polarbear4

it shouldn’t rest on Ireland it should rest on not happening. Because we want them to keep their in NHS. Because so many reasons. Arrrrrrgggghh!

not my party not my party not my party

magsview

“to help the UK cope economically” – the foxes are prowling around the henhouse.

WindDancer13

I am really not sure how to interpret this cartoon. Is the new editor meant to be a corporate Democrat or a jackass? Or are they one in the same?

Headline editor.jpg
magsview

re: “meant to be a corporate Democrat or a jackass?”

Who knows! Wasn’t there a controversy recently over a NYT headline that got a lot of people going?

Trump weighs in on NY Times headline: ‘Radical Left Democrats went absolutely CRAZY’

President Trump in an early morning tweet on Wednesday weighed in on the controversy surrounding an updated New York Times headline, saying it was changed after “Radical Left Democrats went absolutely CRAZY!”

New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet said on Tuesday that his newspaper’s original Monday front-page headline, which asserted President Trump urged “unity vs. racism” after mass shootings, was a “bad” one and “was changed pretty quickly” following backlash online.

“It was written on deadline and when it was passed along for approval we all saw it was a bad headline and changed it pretty quickly,” (said) Baquet

“I understand the concern people have. Headlines matter. But I hope they read the coverage, which I will argue was strong,” Baquet added.

WindDancer13

The headline from the NYT about Trump and unity got a lot of heat. But, their headlines regarding Bernie are always twisted and those don’t get a fraction of attention that the one about Trump did.

WindDancer13

It is too short!

Benny

Cillizza failed to grade Bernie Sanders’ performance at the Iowa Fair, yet he slammed Bernie for being critical of the media?

CNN’s Chris Cillizza Wills Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris Out of Existence in Iowa Segment

On Wednesday morning’s edition of New Day, hosts John Berman and Alisyn Camerota bantered with Cillizza about the fried foods that take center stage at the Iowa State Fair every four years, then launched into a segment grading the performance of Democratic candidates at said fair.

First up was New Jersey Senator Cory Booker, whom Cillizza gave an “A” because Booker got the “best response” at the Wing Ding Dinner (“along with Pete Buttigieg“), and performed well at the last CNN debate. As Cillizza noted, Booker was polling at about one percent going into the fair.

Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren also earned an “A” because “she has by far the biggest and best organization on the ground and the most organic passion behind her candidacy.”

In the latest Monmouth University Iowa poll, Warren was in second place at 19 percent, trailing Joe Biden by 9 points.

Former Texas Congressman Beto O’Rourke — who got less than one percent in that Monmouth poll — got a “B” because of his “powerful, authentic” response to the mass shooting in El Paso, which Cillizza called “his best moment in the 2020 campaign.”

Former Vice President Joe Biden earned a “C” grade because of a pair of “gaffes” that are a “bad storyline.”

Even former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper made the cut, earning a “D” grade that Cillizza offered to change to an “A” if Hickenlooper drops out to run for the Senate against incumbent Republican Sen. Cory Gardner.

What was missing from Cillizza’s analysis — aside from depth and substance — was any mention of Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders, who were polling in third and fourth place in Iowa going into the fair.

Now, the world will never know what grade Cillizza would have given Harris, who launched a bus tour in Iowa, and who drew larger crowds than the frontrunner, according to The Hill. Ditto Sanders, who was definitely there, eating fair food and giving speeches about issues. Sanders has been struggling in Iowa polls, including the fair’s unscientific “Corn Kernel” poll.

It’s anyone’s guess why Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders didn’t exist to Chris Cillizza this week, but they were definitely in Iowa, and definitely worth mentioning.

polarbear4

very good thread 🧵

humphrey

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humphrey

I wonder if this is part of Biden’s plan.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/14/stacey-abrams-vice-president-nominee-1462306

Stacey Abrams, the former Democratic nominee for Georgia governor, said Tuesday she is open to becoming the running mate for “any” of the roughly two dozen White House candidates vying to take on President Donald Trump in 2020.

“I would be honored to be considered by any nominee,” she said in an interview with The New York Times.

humphrey

I can’t see her as being a benefit for many of the leading candidates except for Biden.

polarbear4

buttigieg or beto might get a boost idk

polarbear4

jcitybone

https://theweek.com/articles/858942/rich-peoples-excessive-income-about-strangle-economy?utm_source=links&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=twitter

Another thing Trump and the GOP have done is dump a giant pile of money on rich people with tax cuts, further exacerbating U.S. income inequality (which was already horrible). And all other things being equal, greater inequality means a weaker, more vulnerable economy.

The reasons are threefold. First, rich people spend a smaller fraction of their income, which saps demand for goods and services. Second, lack of broadly-distributed spending power means less prospect for profitable investment — why start a new business when most people’s budgets are already tapped out? (As Matt Stoller argues, the investment problem is further exacerbated by galloping monopolization in most markets, which makes it all but impossible for new businesses to compete with existing behemoths, even if there are plenty of potential customers.) Finally, the one way the masses can keep up their consumption is by borrowing, which of course can’t go on forever — and when the economy does hit a rock, the ensuing recession will be much worse as the whole population struggles to escape a big debt overhang at the same time.

As economist John Kenneth Galbraith argued, one of the factors behind the great crash of 1929 was the “bad distribution of income.” Today the share of income going to the ultra-rich is about as great as it was in 1929.

A recession is coming, whether tomorrow or some future date. When that comes we should remember that a colossally top-heavy income distribution is a serious threat to our economy and take steps to fling money down the ladder.

humphrey

polarbear4

I posted one of her, post – baby. Here’s one of Matt. They both look like highschoolers. (Bruenigs)
https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1161786736961314818?s=20

jcitybone

Guess which candidate does best with younger voters?🤗

https://www.salon.com/2019/08/14/why-the-political-center-is-a-dangerous-myth-and-how-it-could-cost-democrats-the-2020-election/

Much is made of the idea that what Democrats need is an “electable,” “centrist,” “moderate” candidate. As I’ve explained, these words are code for establishment, corporatist and anti-progressive. But for the sake of the thought experiment over “electability,” let’s imagine that the only way Democrats win the presidency is by putting up a candidate who is moderate on issues.

A recent set of polls cited by Erin Doherty for FiveThirtyEight calls into question the very idea of electability as an effective strategy. This is because young voters prioritize a candidate’s policies over electability. Instead, “older Democrats were more likely to want an electable candidate even if they disagreed on the issues,” but such a candidate is likely to lead to a depressed turnout among younger voters, a potential catastrophe for any Democratic nominee. Doherty explains that in key battleground races in 2018 it was young voters who often made a decisive difference.

So, if the largest voting bloc values meaningful policies over “electability,” then doesn’t that actually redefine the very idea of who is electable? Based on the numbers, the most “electable” Democratic candidate will be one whose policies appeal to young voters.

If Democrats’ rhetoric over the political center doesn’t match the math, then maybe it is time to call out that rhetoric for what it is: a myth. The longer we let this myth control the narrative of the 2020 election, the longer we will be trapped in a fantasy that isn’t likely to have a happy ending.

jcitybone

Subir has a great diary up at DK about Bernie’s outreach to infrequent voters highlighting Cardi B and Joe Rogan.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/14/1879106/-Bernie-s-media-strategy-is-reaching-millions-of-infrequent-voters?utm_campaign=trending

polarbear4

polarbear4

humphrey

I guess he hasn’t visited Spain in the last 4 years.

humphrey

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