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jcitybone

https://www.thedailybeast.com/denmark-trumps-plan-to-buy-greenland-is-final-proof-that-he-has-gone-mad?ref=home

Donald Trump will have to leave his checkbook at home when he visits Denmark next month—Greenland is apparently not for sale. Lawmakers in Denmark on Friday ridiculed Trump for asking his aides to look into whether he could buy Greenland, which is an autonomous Danish territory. “If he is truly contemplating this, then this is final proof, that he has gone mad,” Soren Espersen, a spokesperson for the Danish People’s Party told a local broadcaster. The Wall Street Journal first reported that Trump had directed his aides to investigate whether he could buy the ice-covered island and its 50,000 residents. “It has to be an April Fool’s joke… out of season,” former Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen tweeted. “I am sure a majority in Greenland believes it is better to have a relation to Denmark than the United States, in the long term,” another Danish MP, Aaja Chemnitz Larsen, told Reuters. “My immediate thought is ‘No, thank you.’” Later, Greenland’s foreign minister emerged: “We are open for business, but we’re not for sale,” Ane Lone Bagger told Reuters.

orlbucfan

Nothing like having a stupid nutcase for POTUS!!

orlbucfan

T and R, LD!! T and R, Benny for Cardi B. !! 🙂

jcitybone

Bernie could talk about this more: how racism has kept us from universal health care.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/universal-health-care-racism.html

In 2010, the Affordable Care Act brought health insurance to nearly 20 million previously uninsured adults. The biggest beneficiaries of this boon were people of color, many of whom obtained coverage through the law’s Medicaid expansion. That coverage contributed to a measurable decrease in some racial health disparities, but the success was neither as enduring nor as widespread as it might have been. Several states, most of them in the former Confederacy, refused to participate in Medicaid expansion. And several are still trying to make access to the program contingent on onerous new work requirements. The results of both policies have been unequivocal. States that expanded Medicaid saw a drop in disease-related deaths, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research. But in Arkansas, the first state to implement work requirements, nearly 20,000 people were forced off the insurance plan.

One hundred and fifty years after the freed people of the South first petitioned the government for basic medical care, the United States remains the only high-income country in the world where such care is not guaranteed to every citizen. In the United States, racial health disparities have proved as foundational as democracy itself. “There has never been any period in American history where the health of blacks was equal to that of whites,” Evelynn Hammonds, a historian of science at Harvard University, says. “Disparity is built into the system.” Medicare, Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act have helped shrink those disparities. But no federal health policy yet has eradicated them.

jcitybone

Real bottom line: Employers should support M4A to get out of the insurance business.

https://www.axios.com/employers-health-care-costs-premiums-deductibles-9e074deb-467e-4e81-b0c3-97259324bfe6.html

By the numbers: Health spending by families who get their insurance from large employers has grown two times faster than wages over the last decade, driven partially by the rise in deductibles, according to a new brief by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Employees’ average costs for family coverage rose from $1,779 in out-of-pocket spending and $2,838 in premiums in 2008 to $3,020 and $4,706, respectively, in 2018.

But it’s not like employers’ costs have remained stable over the same time period: Their premium contribution has risen, on average, from $10,008 to $15,159.

Why it matters: People are paying higher premiums for insurance that leaves them on the hook for more of their bills.

Rising deductibles “has worsened inequality, fueling anger and resentment and adding to the country’s unsettled politics,” the LA Times’ Noam Levey recently reported in a series on high deductibles.

It’s also fueled the debate over prescription drugs, which have become more expensive as patients become more exposed to their cost. That’s been especially hard on chronically ill people, and “has made being sick in the U.S. dramatically more expensive,” Levey reported.

The realization that the Affordable Care Act’s coverage gains did little to make a dent in the cost of care for many Americans is part of the rationale behind Democrats’ leftward march, and the most radical form of Medicare for All would completely eliminate premiums and cost-sharing for everyone.

The bottom line: Eventually things will change, because they have to. The current trajectory isn’t sustainable.

Benny

I’d forgotten this bit of history.

Benny

phatkhat

Ugh. Spotlighting Warren.

polarbear4

i didn’t hear her name in the clip

Benny

Nor did I.

She likes Warren, but I think she’s in Bernie’s corner. She hasn’t declared yet.

Benny

This is likely a repeat, but good news should always be rewarded with another post!

jcitybone

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457656-colorado-candidates-warn-hickenlooper-they-wont-back-down

Colorado Democrats vying for the right to face vulnerable Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) next year are sending a clear message to former Gov. John Hickenlooper (D): They have no intention of getting out of his way, even if he jumps in the race.

But many of the 15 candidates who have already entered the race against Gardner — among the most vulnerable senators seeking re-election in 2020 — have signaled in recent days they intend to continue their campaigns. Some even previewed the attack lines they would likely use against him if he does join the race.

“I’m sorry Gov. Hickenlooper’s presidential race didn’t work out. But he spent his time in Iowa running for president and as governor working and campaigning against bold, progressive solutions that will move Colorado and the country forward,” state Sen. Angela Williams (D) said in a statement. “If he’s going to switch gears and run for the Senate, he has a lot to explain to Colorado voters. This won’t be a coronation.”

Benny

Said he, who never walks his own courses during moderate climes when playing golf.

jcitybone

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Tyrannocaster

Apparently, the person in question is actually one of the Trump supporters at the rally and not a protester. If that’s true, I wonder how he felt there.

Benny

I’m hoping it is a dose of bad tasting medicine. While I wish most of the former Obama now Trump voters would switch to Bernie, this rally goer would be welcome to vote for a moderate Dem (like Harris or Buttigieg).

jcitybone

https://www.salon.com/2019/08/16/memo-to-mainstream-journalists-can-the-phony-outrage-bernie-is-right-about-bias/

Mainstream journalists are having a ridiculous hissy fit over Sen. Bernie Sanders’ suggestion that there may be a connection between the owner of a news outlet and the content or biases of that outlet’s coverage.

If Sanders had suggested that Rupert Murdoch’s ownership of Fox News impacts its coverage, few would argue with him. But Sanders referred to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos’ ownership of the Washington Post — a corporate centrist outlet. And the senator, an Amazon critic, complained that the newspaper “doesn’t write particularly good articles about me.”

Immediately, the Post’s top editor denounced Sanders’ “conspiracy theory” – claiming his newsroom operates “with full independence.” A Post columnist tweeted that she’d never “heard a hint of Jeff Bezos interfering.”

Are they deluding themselves? Or sincerely clueless?

I worked in and around mainstream TV news for years, including at corporate centrist outlets CNN and MSNBC. Unlike at Fox News (where I’d also been a paid contributor), there’s almost never a memo or direct order from top management to cover or not cover certain stories or viewpoints.

But here’s the sad reality: There doesn’t have to be a memo from the owner to achieve the homogeneity of coverage at “centrist” outlets that media watchdog groups like FAIR (which I founded) have documented in study after study over the decades.

It happens because of groupthink. It happens because top editors and producers know — without being told — which issues and sources are off limits. No orders need be given, for example, for rank-and-file journalists to understand that the business of the corporate boss or top advertisers is off-limits, short of criminal indictments.

No memo is needed to achieve the narrowness of perspective — selecting all the usual experts from all the usual think tanks to say all the usual things. Think Tom Friedman. Or Barry McCaffrey. Or Neera Tanden. Or any of the elite club members who’ve been proven to be absurdly wrong time and again about national or global affairs.

And then ask yourself why someone like Noam Chomsky can be quoted regularly in the biggest mainstream outlets abroad, but almost never in mass media in his own country — even though he mostly analyzes the policies of his own country’s government.

jcitybone

My fave Jen Rubin gets a mention 🤗

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/bernie-sanders-washington-post-media-complaint-872349/

The news media is now loathed in the same way banks, tobacco companies, and health insurance companies are, and it refuses to understand this. Mistakes like WMDs are a problem, but the media’s biggest issue is exactly its bubble-ness, and clubby inability to respond to criticism in any way except to denounce it as misinformation and error. Equating all criticism of media with Trumpism is pouring gasoline on the fire.

The public is not stupid. It sees that companies like CNN and NBC are billion-dollar properties, pushing shows anchored by big-city millionaires. A Vanderbilt like Anderson Cooper or a half-wit legacy pledge like Chris Cuomo shoveling coal for Comcast, Amazon, AT&T, or Rupert Murdoch is the standard setup.

Media companies run by the country’s richest people can’t help but project the mindset of their owners, and they are naturally incompetent when it comes to viewing their own role in society. While we regularly congratulate ourselves for being protectors of democracy, we have difficulty admitting basic embarrassments, like that the news is a profit-driven consumer product that isn’t always good for the customer. The public sees through this with ease. The press is completely in denial about this.

Anyone who’s worked in the business (or read Manufacturing Consent) knows nobody calls editors to red-pencil text. The pressure comes at the point of hire. If you’re the type who thinks Jeff Bezos should be thrown out of an airplane, or that it’s a bad look for a DC newspaper to be owned by a major intelligence contractor, you won’t rise. Meanwhile, the Post has become terrific at promoting Jennifer Rubins and Max Boots.

Trump may have accelerated distaste for the press, but he didn’t create it. He sniffed out existing frustrations and used them to rally anger toward “elites” to his side. The criticism works because national media are elites, ten-percenters working for one-percenters. The longer people in the business try to deny it, the more it will be fodder for politicians. Sanders wasn’t the first, and won’t be the last.

jcitybone

Welcome to Bizarro World where up is down, black is white, and Bernie is Trump.

Here in this upside-down reality a man who explicitly fights on behalf of workers and the poor and against billionaires and the ruling class is literally no different than a billionaire member of the ruling class who runs concentration camps, kidnaps children from their mothers, incites domestic terrorists to target immigrants and people of color, and represents literal fascism in America.

Nope, no difference at all. Thanks MSNBCNNPR for ensuring that FOX isn’t the only serially lying corporate pig at the political media trough. It’s good to know that democracy and diversity of opinion exist in our contemporary media landscape; you can get right wing anti-Bernie talking points *AND* you can get far right wing anti-Bernie talking points. This is the “marketplace of ideas” we’ve heard so much about.

So, with that in mind, and knowing what Sanders actually said, let’s take a sampling of the headlines:

Bernie Sanders, Sounding Like Trump, Goes After Amazon and Washington Post – NPR
Sanders blasts Bezos-owned Washington Post over bias in echo of Trump – FOX
Bernie Sanders should know better than this ridiculous attack on the Washington Post – CNN
Bernie Sanders’s bogus media beef – Washington Post

I could go on and on, but you get the point.

But the truly insidious part of this demonization campaign is not the suggestion that Sanders is spreading a “conspiracy theory” that money and power shapes corporate media narratives. Rather, it is the idea that Bernie is somehow the left-wing Trump.

Such suggestions, as seen in headlines above, are designed to seed the discourse, to plant in the minds of potential Bernie supporters the idea that the man is crazy and a liar. That somehow those workers who voted for Trump but who are very sympathetic to Sanders should think twice because Sanders will betray them just like Trump. That progressives who like Sanders should just support someone else because he’s just an old white guy like Trump.

The purpose is not to make a substantive comparison, but to create a false one that, repeated ad nauseam, will eat its way into the collective consciousness of the electorate, like a carnivorous earwig into our already Trump-addled brains.

Bernie’s got a target on his back because they know he’s a real threat. The Bernie crowd needs to realize that the media war has only just begun.

polarbear4

critical thinking re media ahould be required high school and college classes.

orlbucfan

Bernie’s got a target on his back because they know he’s a real threat. The Bernie crowd needs to realize that the media war has only just begun.
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Nope, the media war has been going down for a long time.

wi61

We know the war on Bernie started in 15 with the Bernie v Clinton primary cycle, You could even say the TOP edic was the start of it its increased even more since then. The corporate media owners want Bernie gone at all costs along with the DNC.

wi61

Plus these type of “orders” are verbal in nature and often in a one on one format so they can be denied if the need arises.

Benny

polarbear4

pretty amazing. the venue is a trump rally. AR art. i’m sure some of you know a lot more than I do about it.

polarbear4

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polarbear4

this is why people are so damn upset about the media.

A business owner who was convinced Bernie just wanted to take his profits and give it to people who weren’t working. Now he thinks Bernie will really benefit him.

polarbear4

wi61

If the die hard small business owners would really look at his M4A plan they would see how it would save them money from having to provide med insurance for their employees. Just pay their share of the insurance like they do now. No worries about constant shopping for a new policy every time a claim was summitted and the business owner either got a rate increase the next year or were dropped.Their bottom line profit would probably increase along with productivity as workers wouldn’t worry about healthcare and if a procedure would be covered.

polarbear4

if only some news program would give them this information….

jcitybone

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/457642-sanders-support-among-college-students-rises-to-highest-level-since-april

Support for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) among college students climbed to its highest mark since April, according to a new weekly Chegg-College Pulse poll.

The latest figures, released Thursday, found that 29 percent of likely Democratic voters attending college or university picked Sanders as their top choice for president. Support for Sanders in this election cycle peaked at 32 percent in April.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and former Vice President Joe Biden were the only other White House contenders to win double-digit support in the Democratic field. Twenty-two percent of Democratic participants picked Warren, while 10 percent chose Biden. South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) followed with 9 percent.

The weekly poll also found that support for Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) dropped for the first time since June. Six percent of college voters said they support Harris, a 2 percentage point decline from the previous week.

Long-shot candidate Andrew Yang rounded out the list of candidates polling greater than 1 percent, with 5 percent support.

polarbear4

Gosh, I hope it gets a lot higher than that.

jcitybone

Warren does best among college educated so even among young college educated she’s going to do relatively well. I’m sure Bernie is doing much better among non-college youth. The trick is to get them to vote.

Torabs
Torabs

I would not concede educated voters to Warren by any means. There’s a big difference between a college grad with a comfortable job vs college students scraping to get by.

orlbucfan

There are a lot of highly educated female voters who are not interested in Warren. Me, for one.

polarbear4

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polarbear4


“But in times of crisis, such as during the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq — when I was a senior producer of MSNBC’s primetime Phil Donahue show — there may well be orders and memos.

As the invasion neared, top management at MSNBC/NBC News ordered us to bias our panel discussions. If we booked one guest who was antiwar on Iraq, we needed two who were pro-war. If we booked two guests on the left, we needed three on the right. When a producer proposed booking Michael Moore, she was told that three right-wingers would be required for balance. (I thought about proposing Noam Chomsky as a guest, but our stage couldn’t have accommodated the 28 right-wingers we might have needed for balance.)

During that period, we were told by MSNBC brass that invasion opponent Ramsey Clark, a former U.S. attorney general, should not appear on the channel. Apparently, some sort of blacklist.

When the Donahue show was terminated three weeks before the Iraq invasion, internal memos that had circulated among top NBC News executives actually leaked. (God bless whistleblowers!) One memo said that Phil Donahue represented “a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war. . . . He seems to delight in presenting guests who are antiwar, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administration’s motives.” The memo described a dreaded scenario in which the Donahue show would become “a home for the liberal antiwar agenda at the same time that our competitors are waving the flag at every opportunity.”

NBC’s solution? Pull the plug.”

magsview

Here is an interview with Ramsey Clark by Abby Martin done in 2013. Ramsey is getting on in years (91 yrs old now, and I think he was 85 at the time of the interview) but he seems to get particularly well-spoken when talking about all of the children that died as a result of the sanctions placed on Iraq. He used to visit maternity wards every time he went to Iraq.

“sanctions impact the weakest, the poorest, those with less power and less access to the necessities of life”

(Something to consider with the economic war we are currently in against Venezuela)

re: the number of children who died as a direct result of the sanctions in Iraq (575,000), Ramsey reminds us of the words of a certain SOS, Madeleine Albright, who famously said when asked:

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.

—60 Minutes (5/12/96)

polarbear4

polarbear4


ill stop for a while so much goodness today 🧚🏼‍♂️🦜💕

magsview

Biden’s campaign is trying to raise money by fear-mongering with Bernie.

With that much money, ANYTHING could happen in this race.

magsview

You go Rashida!!

magsview

Maybe there’s hope after all that we, as a society, will soon be taking climate change seriously-TPTB are seeing the economic side of things!

magsview

Wow Ilhan doesn’t hold back – THREAD

magsview

Do you know anything about this jcitybone??

jcitybone

🤔

Benny

polarbear4

college educated— weird. hanging on to status?

magsview

Very interesting.

Bernie supporters highest in:
-urban
-under 30
-women (!)

but lowest of them all in:
-college grad
-white

and second only to Warren in:
-religiously affiliated

bernin
bernin

So that chart shows Bernie Sanders is the ONLY candidate that gets the majority of their support from POC instead of white, and women instead of men.

Somebody tell Markos before he writes another one of his asinine diaries about how Bernie only appeals to whites and males.

magsview

lol

magsview

yay, haha, some friday fun:

polarbear4

Down deep, then no. Ha ha love it

magsview

magsview

nice pic (love his bodyguard)

bernie iowa 2019.jpg
polarbear4


❤️🌷❤️

polarbear4

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polarbear4

polarbear4

polarbear4

polarbear4

i said #elderly (wisdom givers)

polarbear4

wut


trundles off to read more

polarbear4

“Kamala Harris has released her healthcare proposal, which would allow individuals to buy into Medicare and slowly expand the system over 10 years. Her plan would keep private insurance in the marketplace but require that those plans adhere to standards and costs set by Medicare.”

polarbear4

polarbear4

tbf, Warren didn’t ask for it and i hope she ignores it.

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