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Paul ADK

The voiced agreement is one thing. Biden’s ownership by the oligarchy including the insurance establishment is quite another. Where is the rubber going to meet the road? I’m guessing on the practical side of corporate ownership, and not with the lip service.

polarbear4
polarbear4

yeah. imho It sounded like a piece intended to attract Latinos. Even while it was saying they were cautious about Biden, it was including the promises we all know so well. That’s how it works

jcitybone

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-acknowledging-progressive-disagreements-platform-joe-biden/story?id=72396119

Despite a number of progressive Democrats expressing hesitation about Joe Biden’s presidential campaign — and many more indicating that they are opposed to the party’s national platform — Sen. Bernie Sanders attempted Sunday to assuage concerns about his liberal base’s priorities come November, predicting widespread support for the Biden-Harris ticket, even as they continue to lobby for progressive priorities.

“I would say that the overwhelming majority of progressives understand that it is absolutely imperative that Donald Trump be defeated,” Sanders, I-Vt., said on ABC’s “This Week.”

“Obviously, there may be disagreement,” he continued. “A lot of my supporters are not enthusiastic about Joe Biden. You know why? I ran against Joe Biden. But I think there’s an overwhelming understanding that Donald Trump must be defeated, Biden must be elected, and that the day after he is elected, we’re going to do everything we can to create a government that works for all of us.”

jcitybone

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/512212-sanders-on-downballot-progressive-primary-victories-we-have-made

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) expressed confidence in the progressive wing of the Democratic Party even with former Vice President Joe Biden at the top of its presidential ticket, saying Sunday that the party’s progressives are “making enormous progress.”

“The progressive movement has been making enormous progress, not only in electing candidates to congress, not only in electing candidates to state legislatures, but also in electing candidates for district attorney who are transforming criminal justice in America,” Sanders said on ABC’s “This Week.”

“On all of the ideas that we have been campaigning on, the understanding that health care is a human right, the need to raise the minimum wage to at least $15 an hour, to understand that climate change is an existential threat… we have made enormous progress in bringing the American people in our direction, especially the younger generation,” he added.

ABC’s George Stephanopoulos asked Sanders about dissatisfaction in some progressive quarters with Biden’s selection of Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) as his running mate due to her career as a prosecutor.

Sanders was complimentary of his colleague, saying: “I believe that Kamala is incredibly smart, incredibly tough and I would not like to be Vice President Pence in a debate with her … I think she’s going to be an asset to the campaign.”

The Vermont senator and self-identified democratic socialist acknowledged many of his supporters were not enthusiastic about the Biden campaign, but said that he thinks that “there’s overwhelming understanding that Donald Trump must be defeated, Joe Biden must be elected, and the day after he’s elected we’re going to do everything we can to create a government that works for all of us and not just the 1 percent.”

humphrey

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Paul ADK

So, then, here we go again with “Trump Bad”. Ho hum. Yes, and what then is the DNC and their propped up, selected candidate? Will the kleptocracy end? Of course not, as long as either end of the establishment is in power.

I have the luxury, in this state, of being able to vote my conscience. Biden’s getting all the electoral votes, that’s just another way the system is rigged. But I will vote for who I want. That’s what I do, and if everyone did it, the world would be a much better place. And I’m not voting for Biden.

magsview

Not hearing about how bad Trump is, for me, is probably the best reason to hope he gets bounced in Nov.

Who will the liberal media turn their clickbait-driven outrage towards, if Biden wins?

jcitybone

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-angela-davis-election-idUSKCN25930Y?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&utm_source=reddit.com

A day after U.S. Senator Kamala Harris became the first Black woman in U.S. history to be chosen on a major party presidential ticket, political activist and professor Angela Davis said it has made the upcoming election on Nov. 3 “more palatable.”

Davis said even though there are problematic areas associated with Harris’ record as a prosecutor, she was excited that Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden picked Harris as the nominee for vice president.

“We can’t forget that she did not oppose the death penalty and we can’t forget some of the real problems that are associated with her career as a prosecutor,” said Davis, referring to Harris’ role as California’s attorney general.

“But… it’s a feminist approach to be able to work with those contradictions. And so, in that context, I can say that I’m very excited.

“I think it makes the ticket a lot more palatable, that’s for sure,” Davis said.

polarbear4
polarbear4

not only did she not oppose the death penalty, she left someone on death row who only wanted to include DNA evidence

orlbucfan
jcitybone

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/512227-sanders-labels-usps-dispute-as-a-crisis-for-american-democracy

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) labeled the dispute over the U.S. Postal Service’s (USPS) funding and ability to handle mail-in voting “a crisis for American democracy” ahead of the presidential election.

The Vermont senator told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that Congress should bring back both chambers to address the issue and prevent the “undermining” of “American democracy.”

“This, again, is not a debate about the Postal Service alone,” Sanders said. “That’s important. This is about the future of American democracy and whether people have a right to participate.”

“This is a crisis for American democracy,” Sanders added. “We have got to act and act now.”

The former 2020 Democratic presidential candidate also accused President Trump of “doing everything he can to suppress the vote, [and] make it harder for people to engage in mail-in balloting,” saying the president thinks it will benefit him in the election and calling it an “outrage.”

“So, this is a deliberate effort to defund and destroy the U.S. Postal Service so that people cannot engage in mail-in ballots,” the senator said.

“I hope the American people come together, progressives, moderates, conservatives, to say, ‘Sorry, Mr. President, we may have our disagreements, but in America, we are a democracy. Everybody is going to vote and we’re not going to let you get away with what you’re doing,’” Sanders added.

jcitybone

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/15/pelosi-bringing-house-back-early-postal-service-395791

Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Democratic leaders are considering cutting short the August recess and bringing the chamber back into session to deal with the unfolding crisis at the U.S. Postal Service, according to Democratic sources.

The House could return to vote with the next two weeks, the Democratic sources suggested. The chamber is currently in recess, with no votes scheduled until the week of Sept. 14.

Pelosi and other top Democrats, including House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), discussed the possibility of returning early during an emergency leadership call Saturday afternoon.

Democrats are looking to address organizational issues at the Postal Service in the coming weeks, not to provide additional funding at this time, according to sources familiar with the discussion.

One option would be to vote on a modified version of a bill introduced by House Oversight Chair Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) earlier this week that would prohibit USPS from implementing a planned organizational overhaul that critics maintain would handicap mail-in voting.

Other top Democrats also floated addressing other issues, including expired federal unemployment benefits and voting rights. But Democratic sources said the immediate focus — at least for now — is preserving the Postal Service ahead of the election.

orlbucfan

No, no modified bullshit. Post Office gets funded, period. That means Nancy and Stoyer, you have to get up off your monied asses and call the Senate back in session. Believe me, the House has the power. It’s called the Peoples’ Bully Pulpit! 🤬

polarbear4
polarbear4

Not address funding, too? They have the power of the purse

magsview

this morning on CNN SOTU:

BERNIE: In terms of the post office, I don’t have to tell you this…

TAPPER: Yes.

SANDERS: … because the president of the United States told you a few days ago.

He wants to sabotage the Postal Service because he does not want many millions of people to be able to vote through mail-in ballots. That’s not me. That is exactly what he said. And what he is trying to do in many, many ways is defund and destroy the United States Postal Service.

Now, I happen to believe in the Postal Service, an issue I have been involved in for many, many years. But above and beyond the Postal Service, what is most important, whether you’re a Democrat, whether a Republican, whether you’re a progressive, whether you’re a conservative, do you believe in American democracy?

Do you believe that, in the midst of a pandemic, when we have lost 170,000 people already, people have got to put their lives on the line to go into a voting station, or can they vote in through a mail-in ballot?

I would just say this. Tuesday here in my state of Vermont, we had the largest voter turnout for primaries that we have ever had. Most people voted by mail-in ballots. It was not a big deal. It worked very well. That is exactly what we have to do throughout this country if we’re going to retain our democracy and the right of people to participate.

TAPPER: Do you think Speaker Pelosi should call the House of Representatives back to get a freestanding bill to fund the post office to the Senate and then to the president?

And do you think that the House of Representatives should be using their oversight role and investigating what exactly is going on in terms of the changes that the postmaster general is making?

SANDERS: The answer to both questions is yes.

Now, as you know, despite what Mr. Meadows may be saying, over three months ago, three months ago, Democrats in the House passed the HEROES bill. And among many other things, it provided $25 billion for the Postal Service. It made sure that workers in this country who are unemployed would continue to receive those $600 supplements, on top of their unemployment benefits that they desperately need.

It would make sure that workers continue to receive $1,200 per person, plus money for children as well.

TAPPER: Yes.

SANDERS: It made sure that, in America today, when families are struggling with hunger, worried that they’re not going to be able to feed their kids, worried that they’re going to be evicted from their apartments and their homes, Democrats three months ago addressed that.

TAPPER: Yes.

SANDERS: Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell, the leader of the Senate, Republican, has not attended one of these negotiating sessions.

Trump could’ve gotten on the phone and brought everybody into the White House to work on an agreement. He disappeared.

Mr. Meadows, I’m glad he’s back at work. He was on vacation last week. We have a crisis now. It’s a crisis in democracy.

TAPPER: Yes.

SANDERS: It’s a crisis that so many of our (AUDIO GAP) are struggling. Congress has got to act.

And, of course, Pelosi and Mitch McConnell…

(CROSSTALK)

TAPPER: So, let me ask you, sir, because…

SANDERS: ... back to deal with those issues.

orlbucfan

Jake Tapper sure ain’t worried about his bills. He doesn’t pay rent.

jcitybone

magsview

I’m glad to see AOC top Clinton. I’m sooooo tired of the Clintons..

polarbear4
polarbear4

amazing to me that physical abuse is still a thing a widespread thing

magsview

Bullies used to people kowtowing to them. It smacks of entitlement.

magsview

I saw a bit of Bernie on SOTU and it was good to see his cragged face.

Jake Tapper, when Bernie would let him get a word in edgewise, haha, tried to ‘gotcha’ Bernie, once by bringing up something Briahna said, well he tried at least, multiple times and, when that didn’t work (at least partly thanks to a fortuitous incoming phone call), a WSJ headline about Wall Street being relieved with Biden’s VP selection.

TAPPER: But your former press secretary — your former press

SANDERS: … must be a human right, not simply a job benefit…

TAPPER: Yes.

SANDERS: … because, if you lose your job, then you lose your health care. That’s crazy. That’s not what we want.

TAPPER: Your former press secretary, sir

SANDERS: And we have got to take on the pharmaceutical industry…

(CROSSTALK)

SANDERS: … so much higher prices than any other country on Earth, sometimes 10 times more for the medicine that we need.

So, we’re going to do everything that we can, A, to elect Biden, and, B, after he’s elected, move this country in as progressive a way as we possibly can.

TAPPER: Your former press secretary Briahna Joy Gray tweeted that…

(CHIME SOUNDING)

TAPPER: I think you’re getting a phone call.

Your former press secretary Briahna Joy Gray tweeted that nominating Biden and Harris shows — quote — “contempt for the base.”

IIRC there was a bit of a gap here as Bernie was distracted by the noise, so Bernie never actually responded to the bit about what Briahna said. Of course Bernie probably agrees with Briahna.

And I want to show you this “Wall Street Journal” headline after Kamala Harris was announced as Biden’s pick. It says — quote — “As Kamala Harris joins Biden ticket…”

SANDERS: Jake, can you hear me?

Great timing on the incoming phone call, lol.

TAPPER: Yes, I can hear you. I can hear you.

I think someone’s calling you, though.

But, in any case, Senator, I wanted to ask you — it says — yes, you’re getting a phone call.

(CROSSTALK)

TAPPER: But, in any case, this “Wall Street Journal” headline says, “As Kamala Harris joins Biden ticket, Wall Street sighs in relief.”

And Bill Daley, former President Obama’s chief of staff, now with Wells Fargo, told “The Wall Street Journal” — quote — “I think Harris is a reasonable, rational person who has worked in the system. Is she a progressive? Yes. Is she someone who wants to burn the building down? No. I think she wants to strengthen the building.”

If Wall Street breathes a sigh of relief with Kamala Harris being named to the ticket, what does Bernie Sanders do?

SANDERS: Well, Bernie Sanders does everything that he can to defeat Donald Trump, who’s undermining American democracy, Donald Trump, who has lied to the American people repeatedly on every issue, Donald Trump, who is not supportive of continuing and maintaining those $600 supplementary checks that workers desperately need, or the $1,200 checks that many working families need, Donald Trump, who wants to throw 32 million people off the health insurance that they have.

Donald Trump, who does not even recognize science in terms of the pandemic or in climate change.

So, what Bernie Sanders is going to do is do everything that I can to defeat Donald Trump, to elect Joe Biden. And after the Democrats have control of the Senate and the House, and Joe is the president, we’re going to do all that we can to mobilize people for a progressive agenda.

But this is not a complicated issue. Donald Trump must be defeated. Biden must be elected. And after that election, we’re going to do all that we can for a progressive — to fight for a progressive agenda.

I mean, I would have LOVED it if Bernie had said something about not agreeing with Kamala’s willingness to go soft on Wall Street. Earlier Bernie had brought up the “1%” and it’s pretty clear where Bernie stands on Wall Street (and doing anything to help them engorge themselves even more).

And I would have loved it if Bernie got feisty about the party needing to make a lot more concessions (any?) to its left flank.

But I can understand, for now, Bernie just signaling that he will be fighting for “a progressive agenda” no matter who wins.

I can’t wait to see all the khivers out there hitting the pavement for their queen.

We may need to remind them, frequently, that Hillary thought she had it in the bag too. Remind them that they DO need the left to turn out, whether they choose to be in denial about it or not. And going out to brunch gushing about how great Kamala is won’t help turnout.

orlbucfan

The Byedone/KHive bunch don’t just need us Progressives, they need the Hispanic vote, too! Does Joe get that?

polarbear4
polarbear4

i’m not sure they do. especially if vote by mail (vbm) can be kept pretty clean.

humphrey

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magsview

You all see this? Apologies if a dupe.

Lol

magsview

I like the way it ends.

“You’ve been waiting on it for four hundred years.”

polarbear4
polarbear4

magsview

Markos managed to:
1. get the word ‘purity’ in
2. use lack of context to mislead people (in a very willfully deceptive way)
3. squander his potentially-valuable platform to punch left
4. disparage Sanders
5. widen the divide in the party

all in one small tweet! Masterful.

Hmmmm, whose interests are aided by efforts such as those..

humphrey

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magsview

I had a childish urge to do something silly like tune in to only watch Bernie speak tomorrow night then immediately sign off, but I just looked at the schedule and it’s almost as though someone anticipated such a thing.

Are both Bernie and Michelle scheduled to speak at the same time? That’s what the schedule implies.

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OzoneTom
OzoneTom

Personally I plan to boycott the whole circus. It should be possible to see the Sanders and AOC segments after-the-fact.

magsview

Good point. I’m even worried about Sanders’ speech. I’d love to help him edit it, lol.

polarbear4
polarbear4

Yeah, I’m afraid for Bernie too. I wish he’d have AOC help him beforehand. i’m definitely not watching live.