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jcitybone

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-19/no-corn-dogs-in-sight-kamala-harris-scoops-cash-in-the-hamptons?srnd=premium

Harris, Biden, Buttigieg mingle with elite for money boost

Progressives Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders notably absent

Teslas and Maseratis lined the street as Kamala Harris greeted guests sipping drinks from plastic cups with her name on them and eating cinnamon sugar donuts from Dreesen’s at a fund-raiser hosted by movie executive Jamie Patricof and his wife Kelly as the summer of Democratic fund-raisers rolled on in East Hampton.

The senator and former California prosecutor assured donors “I believe in capitalism” during a jam-packed weekend of pitching her plan to save the middle class. Harris is looking to raise enough money to keep her campaign fueled through the next debates in September and beyond.

jcitybone

And this too. She’s not comfortable with Bernie’s plan. Then why did you cosponsor it?

Harris again tried to clarify her stance on health care, a topic that tripped her up in the early Democratic debates. “I have not been comfortable with Bernie’s plan,” she said of Sanders’ Medicare for All proposal, and explained how a Harris administration would leave room for private insurance.

orlbucfan

She sounds more and more like an opportunistic flake.

jcitybone

https://theweek.com/articles/859419/why-democrats-shouldnt-afraid-talk-about-socialism

The idea is that socialist evangelizing won’t only convert skeptical voters. It’ll also bring back Democrats who stayed home in 2016. One fascinating finding from recent polling is that a clear plurality — if not outright majority — of 2016 Hilary Clinton voters preferred America move away from capitalism and towards socialism. This flies in the face of Clinton’s pitch to voters as someone who sought to “save capitalism from itself,” rather than — like her primary opponent Sanders — abandon that economic system all together.

While Trump suggests that running on socialism will cause Democrats to lose in 2020, research indicates that the opposite was true in 2016: had Clinton leaned into socialist policies, she may have turned out some of the many Democrats and progressives who stayed at home on Election Day, costing her several swing states by razor-thin margins. In particular, this includes a large share of young, black progressives — demographics with some of the highest favorability of socialism. Even Democratic Super PAC Priorities USA — far from Marxist propagandists — concluded that a populist economic message would be key to getting this vital group out to the polls.

It’s understandable that so many Democratic leaders are engaged in fearmongering about socialism. Some are the products of an older generation still living in the shadow of the Cold War and left-wing candidate George McGovern’s 1972 loss to (an incredibly popular at the time) Richard Nixon. Others take Republican glee at socialist proposals too literally, failing to remember that 55 percent of voters thought Barack Obama was a socialist before he was re-elected in a landslide. And of course there are the anti-socialist ideologues in both parties who, powered by corporate donors, are desperate at all costs to keep an agenda of economic redistribution at bay.

No matter the specific reason, the data shows that too many Democrats are fundamentally misunderstanding voters’ view of socialism. If the party wants to have any hope of holding the House and winning the Senate and White House in 2020, they need to follow the lead of Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders, and state and local politicians across the country: talk more about socialism. Voters like what they hear.

polarbear4

caveat: If you don’t believe it, don’t talk it.

magsview

Sorry jcitybone! I didn’t see that you’d posted this already.

Benny

Group of top CEOs says maximizing shareholder profits no longer can be the primary goal of corporations

The organization representing the nation’s most powerful chief executives is rewriting how it views the purpose of a corporation, updating its decades-old endorsement of the theory that shareholders’ interests should come above all else.

The new statement, released Monday by the Business Roundtable, suggests balancing the needs of a company’s various constituencies and comes at a time of widening income inequality, rising expectations from the public for corporate behavior and proposals from Democratic lawmakers that aim to revamp or even restructure American capitalism.

“Americans deserve an economy that allows each person to succeed through hard work and creativity and to lead a life of meaning and dignity,” reads the statement from the organization, which is chaired by JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon.

The group says its members “share a fundamental commitment to all of our stakeholders,” and commit to doing well by their customers, employees, suppliers and local communities. “Each of our stakeholders is essential,” the group adds. “We commit to deliver value to all of them, for the future success of our companies, our communities and our country.”

When the right to work capitalists begin to lower the barriers to collective bargaining, then I’ll start accepting that they are making steps in the path forward.

However, this bit of PR illustrates how Sanders and Warren are influencing the discussions, along with climate crisis activists.

A range of lawmakers, meanwhile, are trying to force companies to consider society’s larger goals when they do business or be penalized. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) has proposed a plan that would require U.S. corporations to turn over part of their board of directors to members chosen by employees. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, another 2020 hopeful, would prohibit corporations from buying back their own stock — a move that drives up share prices — unless they offer a certain level of pay and benefits for workers. Other efforts include bills to penalize companies for data breaches or improve the diversity of corporate boards.

I’ll be looking to see what Harris and Buttigieg take away from this. This also gives Biden some cover with WWC.

wi61

Pretty words from these CEO’s I’ll believe it when I actually see it. Right now its just pandering to voters hoping they’ll stick with Biden or Warren whom they know they can control. Their no where ready to give up their greed is good business model. Its going to have to be ripped away from them.

Tyrannocaster

You just can’t have enough pooches in your internet life.

jcitybone

LOL. Good luck at getting my pups to pose together like that. Here’s two shots of them together. In one they are sacked out and in the other a treat is involved.

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magsview

LOL, thanks for the pics, I needed that! Looks like they own that sofa! 😉

polarbear4

can i haz snuggle?

orlbucfan

Toto whom I miss terribly was the only ham of our 5 Dobes. The other 4 hated the camera and knew when it was aimed at them. Great pup shots!!

Tyrannocaster

Those guys are adorable.

magsview

Great pic! I agree, you cannot have too many pics of “pooches”, especially adorable pooches. Those two lions flanking the smaller dogs almost don’t even look real!

Tyrannocaster

Tervs are imposing dogs. The Cardis are not, LOL, but they are awfully cute. Incidentally, the one in back (Dagger) is a Corgi whose ears did not come up all the way on their own and the owner (my sis-in-law) decided not to tape them. Everybody thinks he’s a St. Bernard puppy, LOL. Note: Karloff’s ears were all the way up at 8 weeks. You just never know. As for the Tervs’ ears, I’ve never seen one with ears that weren’t up and never heard of anybody taping them. But Cardigans do have awfully big ears.

jcitybone

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/joe-biden-wont-beat-donald-trump/

Biden himself knows that his age and state of mind are a problem, and Glenn Thrush’s recent New York Times story showed that Barack Obama knows it, too. “At some point” in 2008, Thrush reports, while Biden was on his way to becoming the Democrats’ VP pick, he “told Obama aides that ‘Barack would never have to worry’ about him positioning himself for another presidential run. He was too old…”

That was over a decade ago. Today, according to Thrush, while he has accepted that Biden is running, “Obama has hammered away at the need for his campaign to expand his aging inner circle.” It’s the innermost circle of all that must worry him the most. Obama also told Biden’s people, per Thrush, “Win or lose, they needed to make sure Mr. Biden did not ‘embarrass himself’ or ‘damage his legacy’ during the campaign.

Biden at 76 shows his age more than Bernie Sanders (77) or Donald Trump (73). When Trump says something outrageous, that’s Trump being Trump. When Biden says something outrageous or bizarre, that’s partly his old habit, too—Thrush reminds us that in 2007 he called Obama “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy”—but his casual slips are increasingly worrying. The gaffes keep coming. How many will it take before voters seriously question his competence? If Biden is meant to be a contrast to Trump, those who say Trump is mentally unfit for office will have a hard time making the case that Forgetful Joe is an improvement.

The best thing Biden has going for himself is the division of his opposition. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are keeping the Medicare-for-all left split. If he were facing only one of them, Biden would be in serious trouble already. Even better for Biden, Warren and Sanders look about equally tough—Warren is determined, she’s more acceptable to the party’s moderates than Sanders is, but Sanders remains the favourite of the activist left. Neither has an obvious path to knocking the other out of the race: Sanders can hardly attack Warren from the left or accuse her of not being viable; and she can’t deploy a viability argument without risking a loss of her left flank to the very candidate she’s attacking. And so far, Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg show little hope of chipping into Biden’s support on the centre-left.

Biden has wanted to be president for a long, long time: he first ran for the White House over thirty years ago, and according to sources “in Biden’s orbit” who spoke to Glenn Thrush, he never got over his failure. He saw 2008 as “his final chance to exorcise the humiliating memories of a promising 1988 campaign demolished by reports he had plagiarised speeches.” Biden told Obama he would never run for president again, yet now he is. His ambition has blinded him to reality: his time has not come, it’s already past, and as soon as Democratic voters decide between Sanders and Warren, they’ll let him know.

polarbear4

“Obama also told Biden’s people, per Thrush, “Win or lose, they needed to make sure Mr. Biden did not ‘embarrass himself’ or ‘damage his legacy’ during the campaign.”

that’s awful! just to preserve his legacy, you’d risk this country going to hell in a handbasket and climate change not being addressed? obama and biden, go home.

Tyrannocaster

The whole debacle that is the Obama Presidential Library tells you everything you need to know about him.

magsview

Apparently Biden’s “legacy” is more important than the future of most of the people and pretty much the entire planet.

I’m getting pretty discouraged about the Warren/Bernie thing and the way that Warren is angling against Bernie.

polarbear4

m2. surprised, but I shouldn’t be. I fell for Obama in 2008, two, not really diving into his history.

orlbucfan

mags, Warren is still an ex-GOPuke. I have always been leery of her. I now wonder if the “ex” is accurate.

Torabs
Torabs

Funny how casual racism regularly is dismissed as a “slip” or “gaffe” by Biden. It’s 2019, come on now.

Don midwest
Don midwest

from twitter land

polarbear4

Tulsi could do herself a favor by coming out strongly against this.

orlbucfan

This plus her inexperience is why I won’t vote for her!

Tyrannocaster

Here’s something else that should give Tulsi pause:

Benny

polarbear4

Only Bernie will start fighting this ugliness on day one.

Torabs
Torabs

Bernie will do what he can, but the Feds can only do so much. The people of Texas need to wake up and decide that this is not ok, that the people they pay to behave this way are not ok.

Benny

orlbucfan

Boeing better start cleaning some serious executive house. The 737 debacle is hitting them heavily in the $$$$.

magsview

Very disappointing!

Where was Warren again during DAPL protests again?? MIA


Five Things You Need to Know About Elizabeth Warren

A CNBC piece pointed out her silence on the Dakota Access Pipeline until the end: “[Warren] was inexplicably MIA during the fight against the Dakota Access Pipeline, saying nothing as thousands of unarmed, peaceful Native Americans and environmental activists were illegally arrested and shot at with tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets, freezing water, and grenades by de facto oil police in North Dakota… Warren finally chose to speak out against DAPL on the same day the Army Corps of Engineers denied a crucial permit for the pipeline’s completion.”

And The Observer pointed out: “The Dakota Access Pipeline presented an opportunity for Warren to save face and fight for the rights of Native Americans. The efforts of the Standing Rock Sioux to stop the pipeline have developed into a broader movement for indigenous rights across the country, but again Warren is nowhere to be found in this fight.”

Yet her rhetoric once the fight was over—doubtless after seeing the outpouring of support for the protests—reflected a manufactured passion: “For months, the Standing Rock Sioux and thousands of others have opposed a pipeline that many believe risks contaminating the tribe’s water supply. The Standing Rock Sioux are not animals to be corralled – they are human beings. Good, passionate human beings who have stood together in the middle of a North Dakota blizzard this past week, and stood together for many weeks before, to fight for what they believe in. They should be treated with respect and basic human decency.” Yet this didn’t come up during the violence loosed upon the Sioux and their supporters, including the use of rubber bullets and attack dogs.

And then she made certain to remind the wealthy Democratic Party donors that she was still on their side: “The construction workers and laborers at Standing Rock are also human beings—and they weren’t the ones to decide where to build this pipeline. They are good, hard-working people who are just trying to do their jobs. They also should be treated with respect and basic human decency,” intimating that the construction workers were under threat from the Sioux and the protestors—something that isn’t part of any of the narratives of what happened at Standing Rock.

In the end, Elizabeth Warren is a devout capitalist, which leads her to ignore any progressive movement until it is politically expedient for her to speak up—usually after the fight is over. She will make sure to support even the most draconian Republicans when she feels it’s “necessary,” and will even defend these decisions. And her capitalist imperialism means she fights tirelessly to build the military presence of the United States in the Middle East. In all of this, Warren has shown herself to be a perfect representative of the U.S. ruling class.

https://www.leftvoice.org/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-elizabeth-warren

polarbear4

Not bold. Only Bernie will go all out for the earth. disappointingly DNC of her.

magsview

Yah, I certainly didn’t get the “bold” part. Who was the ‘not-bold’ person to support??

magsview

I’m not going to suddenly be hating on Haaland, I’m just really disappointed.

Deb Haaland kicks off Elizabeth Warren’s campaign in Iowa

Rep. Deb Haaland, D-New Mexico, stopped by the Sioux City, Iowa, campaign office where she talked to local organizers about how to mobilize the vote for Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Massachusetts.

She also talked about how Warren’s plan fits the values of Indian Country, especially when it comes to the environment.

We need a debate on environmental issues!

orlbucfan

Just another GOPUKE Lite who shows her true colors more and more! UGH!

jcitybone

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/12/west-virginia-appalachia-miners-green-new-deal

The coal industry in Appalachia is dying – something that people there know better than anyone. Some in this region are pinning their hopes on alternative solutions, including rising Democratic star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal.

“Coal is over. Forget coal,” said Jimmy Simpkins, who worked as a coalminer in the area for 29 years. “It can never be back to what it was in our heyday. It can’t happen. That coal is not there to mine.”

polarbear4

oh yeah 🥰

humphrey

They might have to put out an “amber alert” for Joe Biden!

No public appearances in over a week.
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humphrey

They are leaving it to have his wife to bring in these enthusiastic crowds. LOL

magsview

Biden to skip DNC meeting in San Francisco where 13 candidates are expected

Hundreds of Democratic National Committee delegates will be here next weekend for a three-day gathering that gives them a chance to meet and hear from 13 presidential contenders — though former Vice President Joe Biden, the party’s front-runner, isn’t scheduled to be among the candidates.

Biden also bypassed the last big party meeting in San Francisco — the convention of the California Democratic Party, the nation’s largest state party, which drew more than 4,000 people in June.

Biden’s campaign has announced that the former vice president will be campaigning in New Hampshire next weekend. A campaign aide said that Greg Schultz, campaign manager for Biden for President, will attend the DNC events in his place.

Noticeably absent from the attendee list is another top-tier candidate, Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., who has drawn big crowds in previous San Francisco appearances.

Sanders has already announced two events open to the public: a Thursday town hall in Sacramento and a Friday event in San Francisco focusing on student debt and affordable college.

Benny

So is Buttigieg. Buttigieg is still a DNC Committee member and I guess Biden is too.

magsview

Why Democrats shouldn’t be afraid to talk about socialism

Tucked in a July poll taken by The Economist and the polling firm YouGov was a simple question: “Do you have a favorable or an unfavorable view of socialism?” The response from Democratic voters was resounding: 52 percent had a favorable view of socialism, compared to only 29 percent with an unfavorable view. Moreover, even when the question was framed in terms of moving away from capitalism and towards socialism, Democrats’ favorability to socialism was a net positive, by a margin of 23 points.

This was no fluke — a Fox News poll taken a few days later showed nearly the exact same findings. And polling going back years has validated a clear trend: far from fearing socialism, Democratic voters are hungry for more of it.

These survey results indicate that, far from scaring them off, the more voters know about socialism, the more likely they are to support it.

The idea is that socialist evangelizing won’t only convert skeptical voters. It’ll also bring back Democrats who stayed home in 2016. One fascinating finding from recent polling is that a clear plurality — if not outright majority — of 2016 Hilary Clinton voters preferred America move away from capitalism and towards socialism. This flies in the face of Clinton’s pitch to voters as someone who sought to “save capitalism from itself,” rather than — like her primary opponent Sanders — abandon that economic system all together.

the data shows that too many Democrats are fundamentally misunderstanding voters’ view of socialism. If the party wants to have any hope of holding the House and winning the Senate and White House in 2020, they need to follow the lead of Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders, and state and local politicians across the country: talk more about socialism. Voters like what they hear.

https://theweek.com/articles/859419/why-democrats-shouldnt-afraid-talk-about-socialism

polarbear4

ACT like a socialist first.

orlbucfan

T and R X 2, LD!! (Includes yesterday)

magsview

This is from November 19, 2018, but considering what’s going on I thought it worth revisiting:

Native Voters Made Decisive Impact on Elections in Battleground States

In counties with Native American-majority populations in North Dakota, Montana and Arizona (all states that had closely contested Senate races this year), Democrats won upwards of 80 percent of the vote. Contrasted with neighboring white-majority rural counties which vote overwhelmingly Republican, Indian country is indeed another country. Moreover, in battleground states in the West where the push and pull between historically rural red voters and a growing population of urban blue voters leaves contests as close as a few thousand votes, the Native American electorate is often left to choose the winner.

Heitkamp’s loss poses the question: Should she have focused on protecting and turning out the Native American vote rather than taking flights with Trump?

If the midterms were, in part, about “Making American Native Again,” our eyes should be on what’s next. Will a growing number of candidates reach out to their Native constituencies? If they do, will they work to keep promises they’ve made, after Election Day? The influence of the Native vote should be a wake-up call for politicians – not only in terms of campaigns, but also in terms of the policy that follows.

https://truthout.org/articles/native-voters-made-decisive-impact-on-elections-in-battleground-states/

orlbucfan

HeitKamp was very conservative. She probably lost cos of it.

polarbear4

new piece of larger documentary.

humphrey

Repeat as this was posted last night for those that might have missed it.

magsview

I got my bumper sticker and now I want this baseball card. #46!

wi61

Done!!! 🙂

humphrey

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humphrey

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polarbear4

reminiscent of Ralph Steadman (more blood, fewer words).

humphrey

magsview

Thank goodness for @SilERabbit.

But that’s the problem with Town Halls vs. official Presidential Debates, the candidates can opt out and say they’re too busy and skip!

This is too important to skip!!

polarbear4

kamala and pete will get a lot of super ds along with the super $

humphrey

Hopefully that they are not around when the supers come into play.

humphrey

humphrey

I came across a new parody site. 😁

humphrey

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humphrey

humphrey

Gotta keep those big donors smiling!

humphrey

humphrey

polarbear4


my man, talkin’ bout that de-escalation.

magsview

magsview

Krystal Ball: The truth about Bernie and Warren

magsview

Comment under video by D VDV:

“I wrote the damn bill!’

“I’ll build the damn lever!”

#Bernie2020
#NotMeUs

(you need to watch about half of the clip for that comment to make sense)

polarbear4

we’ll build the damn lever!

magsview

Another good comment:

Saagar I usually can see your point of view even if I disagree, but the idea that it would be difficult to fill a Sanders administration cabinet and all the other positions is not accurate. Where is it written these people must come from the incestuous political hive that is DC? There are universities with tens of thousands experts on every topic you can imagine in all 50 states. I would flip your argument on its head and say that is one of the main reasons we MUST elect Sanders: we can get NEW people in these jobs who won’t be part of the “Big Club” George Carlin famously told us about. Maybe we can even get some people who are — GASP — under 40 years old (!) in positions of power!

Purge the political class completely! Sanders 2020!

(my bold)

polarbear4

phew! Some of us have been wondering how she would interpret her results. Yay!

polarbear4

humphrey

jcitybone

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orlbucfan

Susan looks pretty damned good for a grandma. 🙂

jcitybone

Benny has some good comments in this one. The diarist is a Warren supporter, but gets attacked on the basis of being a Bernie supporter because who else could be so evil as to question Kamala’s priorities 😖

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/19/1880023/-Sen-Kamala-Harris-skips-CNN-s-Climate-Crisis-Town-Hall-for-big-money-fundraisers?utm_campaign=recent

humphrey

An evening Baseball Game and Open Thread has been posted.

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