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polarbear4

thanks for the thread!

humphrey

humphrey

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1LyxBLMbeaLGN

magsview

Thanks for the thread Wind Dancer! I’ll break up the one I was working on into separate comments.

Happy Saturday!!

humphrey

Despite the naysayers the battle for M4A goes on.

polarbear4
magsview

Bernie is just like Trump!…right? No? You mean that’s just a narrative the MSM and propagandists like to push to smear Bernie?

Benny

They get their opinion facts from Hoarse Whisperer.

humphrey

humphrey

I am disappointed in having to say this.

Having checked AOC’s twitter feed it does not have a single mention of Bernie’s revolutionary Climate Plan. This does not bode well. ?

LieparDestin

I was going to say the other day that we should expect to see people we like endorsing Warren for whatever reason or other. Some will sugarcoat it with platitudes of Bernie has set the conversation but Warren is a woman who will carry his torch, etc etc. Much like Haaland (though as of yet I havent seen any real reasoning out of her, I know she has gotten alot of pushback on twitter).

humphrey

Mehdi Hasan Stuns CNN Panel With Fact-Based Takedown Of Trump

polarbear4

I wonder how many people in the general public even realize that Bernie is Jewish.

magsview

I read an article this morning about Kamala Harris that made me see Bernie’s tweet the other day, after it was reported the Kamala expressed doubts about Medicare For All while at a Hamptons fundraiser, in a different light.

Long story short, in the article the writer, Louis Staples at UK’s Independent, lays down not only how Harris has now “pivoted herself into a corner”, but how she “has just consigned herself to the political graveyard” by moving away from her initial support of MFA. Brutal.

Harris has discovered the hard way that she is never going to win over enough voters on the left of the Democratic Party to become Biden’s main challenger. Voters on the left are uneasy about her background as a prosecutor. Her past stances on the death penalty, marijuana offences and the detention of children – combined with her history of jailing parents whose children missed school – have come under particular scrutiny.

The writer, Louis Staples at UK’s Independent, then went on to remind us of the short work Tulsi Gabbard made of Harris at the last debate and talks about how Harris is good at “sensing the political mood”.

Now, using that same political intuition she’s always had, Harris is reacting by attempting to re-steer her campaign. She’s pivoting back to the centre, hoping that if former vice president Biden continues to misstep, she may become the centrist candidate of choice. If chosen, she’d likely face off against Warren or Sanders, who will represent the more progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

And here’s the part I must admit found insightful :

The problem with this strategy is it doesn’t have the faintest chance of happening. While it does make sense that Harris would eventually pivot towards the centre after receiving little joy from the left of her party, this race has always been about who will face Biden. His final opponent will be the person offering a sufficiently radical and different vision from his.

I wonder if all this has anything to do with why Kamala Harris’s people were so rude to Bernie yesterday?

magsview

Here’s Bernie’s tweet btw:

humphrey

LOL!

John Delaney Draws Crowd of 11 People to Campaign Event—One of His Largest Yet

polarbear4

And yet he persists.

magsview

Is the Biden Bubble About to Burst?

Joe Biden never thought he’d have to do this. Positioned, as he was, as the affable veep to an immensely popular president, the veteran of three previous bids for the Democratic nomination assumed a presidential primary was just a way to garner free media until the main event, the general election. But, since declaring his candidacy at what was, in American political terms, the eleventh hour, Biden’s campaign has been marked more by the sheer number of gaffes delivered than by any soaring rhetoric or roaring crowd of supporters.

And yet, through it all, Biden has held on to a commanding lead in most opinion polls.

But that lead may be illusory. There’s a growing sense that Biden is something of a starter nominee, a candidate that voters can glom onto while they search for someone who better suits their values.

Biden has made the “electability” case explicitly, arguing that defeating Donald Trump should come first and everything else—like, you know, the stuff he would do as president—second. While other candidates have issued white paper after white paper, the former vice president has harped on the necessity of voting for the candidate who has the best chance at defeating the incumbent next November—a candidate who, at least as the early polls tell it, just happens to have the name Joe Biden.

The frontrunner’s wife, Dr. Jill Biden, made a revealing pass at this argument earlier this week, telling New Hampshire voters “You know you may like another candidate better but you have to look at who’s going to win…. So yes, you know, your candidate might be better on, I don’t know, health care than Joe is, but you’ve got to look at who’s going to win this election, and maybe you have to swallow a little bit and say, ‘Okay, I personally like so-and-so better,’ but your bottom line has to be that we have to beat Trump.”

This is not exactly the stuff of which inspiring campaigns are made. It’s condescending at best—existential policy imperatives like climate change and health care are hardly trivial, regardless of who occupies the White House—but it also contains an air of menace. Biden and his supporters are trying to create a binary choice: Vote for Joe and beat Trump, or don’t vote for Joe and lose. But most early polling has suggested that any candidate with near-universal name recognition—something that would automatically follow a major party presidential nomination—would lead Trump in a head-to-head competition.

If voters are transitioning away from electability, that would be good news for Sanders and Warren, in particular. Both candidates have used policy as the backbone of their campaigns, and both have large and deeply loyal bases. Recent polling puts Warren and Sanders in the top tier of Democratic candidates; though they still trail Biden in most opinion polls, each have significant advantages should his campaign falter. Sanders, in particular, has gained momentum in recent weeks, releasing a flurry of policy proposals, including a $16 trillion plan to fight climate change and remake the country’s energy infrastructure.

https://newrepublic.com/article/154835/biden-bubble-burst

humphrey

Biden’s candidacy was created by the MSM and they are going to ride with it til he self destructs. I have all the confidence that he will do that. The sooner the better.

polarbear4

i’ll look for the tweet where CBS reports that some Biden donors are moving to trump. Figures.

humphrey

magsview

I mentioned on here that I’m a big fan of the “doubling union membership in his first term” part. Bernie not afraid to set clear benchmarks.

We need to figure out a way to show how “so called right-to-work laws” are really right to get exploited laws! The right can be so good at framing things deceptively. (Clear Skies Act of 2003, etc).

humphrey

humphrey

polarbear4

this is a joke, right? They know they’re making asses of themselves, right? Does anyone believe that Hickenbooper has a chance in hell?

humphrey

Well Schumer things that he would be great. Just like kyrsten sinema and amy mcgrath.

polarbear4

maybe i’m wrong. there was state poll where he did well

orlbucfan

Hopefully, there will be two choices for the voters to pick. That’s a plus.

humphrey

magsview

I listened to some of it, kinda stressful actually, but it kept cutting out on me. Is it known how things ended up?

humphrey