8.5-9 Open Threads
Hello everyone. I’ve done a little reading on tRump prosecutor Jack Smith. Wowsers, does he have a resume or what?! He has successfully tried and convicted international war criminals along with his domestic work. Just the perfect no-nonsense legal eagle to go after the yahoo with bad makeup. I love it! 🙂👏 Anyway, the Nest is Open for action. You all stay safe and cool.
Thanks orl
https://www.niemanlab.org/2023/08/in-news-headlines-some-civilian-casualties-are-more-valuable-than-others/
You’re welcomed, jcb. 👍 I think I know the gist of this read. The Yemen reporting has been little to none. But on the other hand, the Ukraine propaganda reporting has been over the top cos of, ohhh, the evil Russkies. Spare me.💩💩💩
From the WI GQP WISSC Dept of Ok for wee but not for thee.
Rancor flares on the Wisconsin Supreme Court as its new liberal majority moves to blunt the chief justice’s power
Annette Ziegler
Jessie Opoien, Molly Beck and Daniel Bice, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
MADISON – Three days after securing a new majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, the court’s four liberal justices voted to limit the power of its conservative chief justice — a move the leader called “an attempt to gut” her constitutional authority by “rogue justices.”
In response, a liberal justice pilloried the chief for “litigating” the issue “through media releases.”
The justices voted Friday to change the court’s rules, including the creation of a new committee composed of conservative Chief Justice Annette Ziegler and two justices picked by the court’s liberal majority members.
The liberal justices voted to shift powers from Ziegler to the new committee, in some cases eliminating the chief justice as the sole decisionmaker and instead assigning such jobs to the committee, including appointments to the Wisconsin Judicial College, overseeing the state courts director, picking members of state-level judicial committees and the planning and policy advisory committee, and reviewing the court system’s budget, among other matters.
“I think this will have long-lasting, negative effects that go well beyond the current seven members of the court. This is not how we do business,” Ziegler told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Saturday. “Whenever there’s a different majority, you come in and you gut the system and take over? No. That is not how we’ve ever functioned. People may differ in case decisionmaking, and have different views of the law, but the role of the chief justice has been consistent for over 40 years and five chief justices.”
The court’s internal operating procedures were first adopted in 1984, following a reorganization in 1978 that included experiments “with various procedures that seemed to best serve the objectives of collegiality and efficiency.” They have been adjusted over time, but the shift in powers away from the chief justice marks a dramatic change.
“This is fundamentally, morally wrong,” conservative state Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Bradley told the Journal Sentinel on Friday. “This is political hacks doing the bidding of the people who bought and paid for their elections. These are not jurists. These are politicians wearing robes.”
Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Dallet, a member of the court’s liberal majority, did not return a phone call on Friday from the Journal Sentinel. In a statement, Dallet said the court’s majority “voted today to advance a number of transparency and accountability measures.”
“First, we have made a series of rules and operating procedures changes to make Court decision-making more inclusive, timely, and responsive. Second, we are committed to making all orders more readily accessible on our website,” she said. “Third, we have voted to reopen our administrative conferences. And fourth, we will be announcing the creation of a bipartisan task force to study the issue of recusal and to present us with recommendations.”
“This initial series of actions is intended to be a first step in making our court more accessible and more accountable to the people of Wisconsin,” Dallet said.
In a subsequent statement, Dallet said Ziegler was asked on May 19 and June 23 to schedule a conference in August to discuss administrative changes, but the chief justice refused.
“Thus, a majority of the court met today, after having given proper notice of the meeting to our colleagues, and with an opportunity for justices to appear in person, by Zoom or to vote by email. Some of our colleagues chose not to participate, and instead the Chief Justice has issued a second press release,” Dallet said.
In a statement released Friday, Ziegler said the move amounted to “four rogue members of the court (meeting) in a secret, unscheduled, illegitimate closed meeting.”
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Making such changes occurs “when seven members of the court convene with an agenda prepared by the Chief Justice and at a time set by the Chief Justice during the court’s business year, which is September-June,” Ziegler said in the statement.
“The rogue justices’ attempt to go outside of this recognized procedure is an imposition of will and a raw exercise of overreaching power. Any such attempted action is illegitimate and unenforceable,” she continued.
In a statement, Dallet said the liberal justices “continue to be willing to work with our colleagues.”
“I want to reiterate that it is deeply inappropriate for the Chief Justice to continue to refuse to engage with her colleagues, but instead to publicly litigate these issues. It is not my intention, nor the intention of a majority of my colleagues, to continue to litigate internal issues, through the media,” Dallet said.
Asked whether relationships on the court can be repaired, Ziegler told the Journal Sentinel she is “always hopeful.”
“I’m an eternal optimist, so I would like to think that we will be able to work well together,” Ziegler said.
The court’s new liberal majority made its first significant move Wednesday by firing the director of the state courts system.
Randy Koschnick, who has held the position since 2017 when he was appointed by the outgoing conservative majority, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel he received a phone call Monday afternoon from liberal Justice Jill Karofsky informing him there were enough votes to “fire you tomorrow.”
On Wednesday, he received the letter terminating his employment.
Ziegler put out a two-page statement Tuesday objecting to the decision to oust Koschnick, saying the move “was made without regard for the Constitution, case law, or Supreme Court rules.”
Justices Ann Walsh Bradley, Jill Karofsky and Janet Protasiewicz, who join Dallet in the majority, did not immediately respond to phone calls or text messages seeking comment on Friday’s developments. Conservative Justice Brian Hagedorn declined to comment.
Years of bitterness on the state Supreme Court
Friday’s move continues a bitter era on the court that began more than a decade ago.
In February 2010, conservative Justice David Prosser, who retired in 2016, called then-Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson a “total bitch” and threatened to “destroy” her during a private conversation about a request to remove then-Justice Michael Gableman from a criminal case.
Prosser later said he “probably overreacted” because Abrahamson and Walsh Bradley, members of the court’s liberal bloc, were “masters at deliberately goading people into perhaps incautious statements.”
“This is bullying and abuse of very, very long standing,” Prosser told the Journal Sentinel in 2011. Abrahamson died in 2020.
Walsh Bradley also said Prosser put his hands around her neck during an altercation in her office in June 2011.
The rancor reached an inflection point in 2015 when Republicans sought to change the way the court selects its chief justice through a constitutional amendment that voters ultimately approved.
Abrahamson was immediately removed as the court’s leader after the amendment was approved, allowing the court’s majority to elect its chief justice rather than rely on seniority.
Four justices on the seven-member court voted to elevate then-Justice Patience Roggensack to chief justice. Protasiewicz was elected to fill the seat the conservative Roggensack held until she retired July 31, creating the new liberal majority.
Miss him? Not really…. What i do miss back then the GOP told him to resign or else. To bad the GQP of today has morphed into a fascist cult with thier Dear leader whom is a POS that is going to take this country a gereration to recover from once he kicks the bucket.. Tricky Dick will soon have company in that tub…
If the GQP made a “Barbie” movie
NASA long shot re-establishes full communication with Voyager 2 probe
Aug. 5 (UPI) — NASA scientists say they have now re-established full communication with the Voyager 2 space probe after losing contact with the pioneering spacecraft last month.
The space agency said in a mission update posted on Friday that it used a “shout” issued from its deep space antennas to re-establish a connection to Voyager 2, which is currently located in interstellar space more than 12.3 billion miles from Earth.
NASA lost contact with the probe last month after mistakenly sending it a command that caused it to shift the direction of its antenna by 2 degrees. The agency had been unable to communicate with it since then.
On Tuesday, scientists said they had detected a “heartbeat” signal from the craft.
Voyager 2 now is now operating as designed as it continues on an interstellar mission that began 46 years ago, they said.
Scientists sent the long-distance signal from the Deep Space Network facility in Canberra, Australia.
“With a one-way light time of 18.5 hours for the command to reach Voyager, it took 37 hours for mission controllers to learn whether the command worked,” NASA said in its update.
“At 12:29 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, the spacecraft began returning science and telemetry data, indicating it is operating normally and that it remains on its expected trajectory.”
The move succeeded in instructing the spacecraft to reorient itself and turn its antenna back to Earth.
Had the long-shot not worked, the probe was scheduled to automatically reorient its antenna towards Earth midway through October.
Voyager is NASA’s longest-running space program.
The Voyager 2 probe was launched in 1977 on a mission to explore deep space.
Thought the Klingons used it for target practice for a minute…😬😬 Seriously just amazed that tech of the 70s is still functional that deep into space– Kudos to NASA. Americans cant buy a decent appliance that will last half that long these days.
Naah, that would be the Romulans. 🙂 The Klingons were thugs but the Romulans were malevolent, nasty campers! However, Voyager and James Webb make me wonder very seriously about my species??????? How can humans come up with these simply incredible cosmic tools, and at the same time, poison the climate of the only planet we have??????
Lots of levity around this movie (haven’t seen it nor Oppenheimer yet), but I like the jokes.
I really enjoy David Doel. This whole deal about Trudeau and his son going to see a movie together is much ado about absolutely nothing. Talk about stupid! 🙄🙄
It’s gotten a lot of decent reviews from some serious film critics. I hate the color pink, and books were my bag, not dolls. If you go Ms. Benny, I’ll look forward to reading your critique of the film. 🙂👍
Dave Dayen
Sea Change in Democrats’ Approach to the Judiciary
pt 2
Leave it to Dayan to hit the nail squarely on the head. 👍
We were in the northern burbs of the Windy City over the weekend. Gas was over $4.19 a gallon. But to be fair, IL has some of the highest gas taxes in the country.
I’m thinking some of this is by design on Trump’s part in order to get clarification on what he can say in public as well as privately. He’s also wishing to fundraise off his threats.
I have to say it’s long overdue that someone, be it a federal judge or a simple dog catcher, muzzles the maggot and shuts his pie hole up! The sooner, the better! 😡
Ohio’s proxy war over abortion reaches its final battle
IL, MI, IN, KY, WV will be paying attention to this special election.
You tell ‘em, Bernie! ✊👍
Reports today (Tuesday) indicate very heavy turnout for an election like this one. That may augur victory for the good guys/gals as in NO. We’ve got that 60% requirement, as usual, down here and it is a PITA. 💩😡
Bernie op ed on Fox.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/climate-change-threat-planet-we-must-address-it.amp
O-ville broke a record today, and just missed hitting 100. That’s air temp., not including humidity which has been brutal. My western TN krewe is beginning to worry me cos they have been slammed with violent ⛈️ and reports of flooding. My NC BFF texted that they got hit by a bad ⛈️ with 80 mph wind gusts. They lost power for over 24 hours—now restored. 👍 I’m telling ya, climate damage will be a huge issue next year, no doubt about it.
Remember, I said IL would also be watching this election – even though it is not contiguous to OH. IN just passed a 6 weeks bill in June. That means people from OH are coming to IL already for abortion care.
That 60% needed to change a state constitution is another FRightwingnut ploy to screw the voters, believe me.
Dave Dayen
It’s Natural That People Feel Bad About the Economy Right Now
The most important inflation item is the cost of food for millions of Americans. Between Greedflation- Shrinkflation the price of food has only slowed down, prices seem to keep going up albeit at a slower pace. Granted very few items have come down in price but nowhere near to what they were in 2021. People gotta eat and will shell out the money by sacrificing other bills causing even more economic issues.
Very true, and just wait until the damage caused by the violent climate change events this year catches up to the worldwide food supply. 💩💩😡
Byedone should have stuck to his campaign promise to do one term. He’s not a GOPuker, but he’s not helping his rep for plagiarism and white (?) lies. He better get on the big stick over climate crisis while he’s at it. I won’t vote for him, but I’m an outlier. The DNC better get off the Repuke Lite trip, too. 💩💩
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/no-labels-leader-says-group-would-pull-back-from-2024-run-if-trump-is-poised-to-win/ar-AA1eXVz4
Wasn’t Fred Upton the GOP guy Biden campaigned for in 2017 or 2018?
No Labels can screw off. I looked up Upton, and he sounds like a Repuker Byedone would support. I can’t confirm it, tho.🙄