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WindDancer13

Thanks, LD for the NAB video. It is probably something I would have missed in my travels.

Bernie and the interviewer in the gray suit were sharing one water bottle. The interviewer did not notice but the woman in the middle there did and commented on it.

Bernie’s responses did not reveal anything new, and for the most part the questions were standard including some that contained the usual push from a moderate position. Not surprising as this is the typical above 50K (I would venture to guess well over 50K) crowd.

We really need more extended interviews like the Rogan one. Who else is there that we can encourage to do something similar? The ratings themselves may encourage other non-MSM interviewers to step up.

polarbear4

where are you traveling?

WindDancer13

Lol, for quite some time my travels have been limited to the Internet where I can see the sights of the world and listen to its people’s and never put a dime in some corporate pocket (other than my ISP, anyway). This also means that I get to travel daily.

polarbear4

😎!

jcitybone

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-08-09/bernie-sanders-gets-warm-reception-at-conference-of-black-journalists

IF Sen. Bernie Sanders has struggled to get love from black voters during his presidential runs, it was hard to tell during the Vermont senator’s appearance before a convention of black journalists here in Southern Florida.

A loose, relatively avuncular Sanders stood out in a mini-forum of four 2020 presidential candidates at the National Association of Black Journalists convention, on Thursday, even though he made only slight adjustments of his free-college, Medicaid-for-all, tax-Wall Street-to-pay-for-it stump speech.

Despite a notoriously tough crowd, and a panel of influential reporters asking about his position on black America, Sanders was warmly received during his introduction, was cheered at his exit and had the audience engaged in a brief call-and-response session when describing his student debt forgiveness plan.

“OK, we’re doing all right here,” he quipped.

Meanwhile, two of his more than 20 Democratic primary rivals – Pete Buttegieg, mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker – didn’t seem to leave as much of an impression on the audience, despite focusing more on race than Sanders.

jcitybone

Americans like their doctors not their insurers.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/most-americans-employer-based-plans-healthcare-medicare-for-all-2019-8?utm_source=reddit.com

Over 59% of respondents who receive health insurance through their employer said in a new INSIDER poll they would be fine if that plan changed, as long as it meant no change in coverage.

As the battle lines are drawn within the Democratic party over the proposed government insurance plan under “Medicare for All,’ that’s an encouraging sign for advocates.

The results highlight the fact that although a majority of Americans are fairly satisfied with their employer-based health coverage – which supports other polling on the subject – mainly people just like being covered in general, bearing little loyalty to a specific insurer.

And the respondents’ attitude toward “Medicare for All” reflects a dynamic that candidates who champion it – like Sen. Bernie Sanders – are counting on: If the system provides equal or more comprehensive benefits, then broad swaths of Americans are likely to support it.

WindDancer13

Compare those who have the employer insurance with those who have insurance from government programs (Medicare, military or Medicaid):

28% were on Medicare, Medicaid or military coverage. Of them, 57% love their plan, 14% don’t like their plan, and 29% would be fine if it changed as long as they kept coverage.

A better polling question would be: Would you support a government health care program that gave you the same or better coverage than your current plan and had lower premiums and did not require deductibles or co-pays?

WindDancer13

This guy’s lawyer has come up with an interesting defense. I wonder if Trump will pay the legal bills as he promised at least once in a speech.

A man assaulted a boy for ‘disrespecting’ the national anthem. His lawyer says Trump told him to do it.

An attorney for the Montana man accused of slamming a 13-year-old boy’s head into the ground for not removing his hat during the national anthem says President Trump’s “rhetoric” is partially to blame for his client’s actions.

Earlier this week, Mineral County Sheriff Mike Boone identified 39-year-old Curt James Brockway as a suspect in the alleged Saturday night assault. According to court documents filed in Mineral County, Brockway reportedly told investigators that he asked the boy to take off his hat as the anthem began to play at a local rodeo. When the youth cursed back at him instead, Brockway claimed, he “lifted him into the air, and slammed the boy into the ground.”

The attack reportedly fractured the boy’s skull and left him with a concussion.


The man’s attorney, Lance Jasper, told the Missoulian on Wednesday that his client is a U.S. Army veteran who was honorably discharged for disability after sustaining a traumatic brain injury in 2000 while on active duty in Fort Lewis, Wash. As a result, Jasper said, Brockway believed he was following orders from “his commander in chief” while attacking the teenager. [emphasis added]


During a 2017 rally in Alabama, Trump said: “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out. He’s fired. He’s fired!’” Speaking with Fox News later, Trump suggested NFL players who don’t stand for “The Star-Spangled Banner” shouldn’t be in the United States at all.

“You have to stand proudly for the national anthem. You shouldn’t be playing; you shouldn’t be there. Maybe they shouldn’t be in the country,” he said. [emphasis added]


“Obviously, [Brockway] owes a big portion of accountability for what took place, but it’s certain that there was other things at work here that definitely contributed,” he told the newspaper. “Trump never necessarily says, ‘Go hurt somebody,’ but the message is absolutely clear. … I am certain of the fact that [Brockway] was doing what he believed he was told to do, essentially, by the president.”

Note: The defendant has a previous conviction for assault. His sentence was mitigated by his brain trauma defense.

Don midwest
Don midwest

more and more legal defenses of “Trump told me to do it”

all these rugged individuals are under Trump control?

well, so it seems

**
An article I saw recently which I didn’t link so I don’t have at my fingertips, involved lowering IQ requirements for draft in Vietnam War and the consequences of low IQ people with, among other things, weapons.

Have not seen IQ in the recent terrorist attacks in the US

Not that I am a fan of IQ measurements, but it is a factor

**

orlbucfan

The Orange Moran fans act like members of a brainwashed cult. They are just as aggressively stupid as he is. I have heard this from quite a few friends lately. 🙁

Tyrannocaster

You guys will all want to read this, I think.

Tyrannocaster

It’s just not a complete day without some crappy news about Kamala, though this time she has a friend.

Tyrannocaster

Right after I tweeted this, Jennifer Taub blocked me. I guess she must be a Harris or Booker fan. Interesting the way these things work. I automatically block anybody who blocks me so they can’t search my tweets or retweet me without going through a couple of hoops.

phatkhat

Booker has always had ties to the religious right.

polarbear4

“What the FBI report does, intentionally or unintentionally, is to define a conspiracist as a person who doubts official explanations. In other words, it is a way of preventing any accountability of government. Whatever the government says, no matter how obvious a lie, will have to be accepted as fact or we will be put on a list to be monitored for preemptive arrest.”

polarbear4

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WindDancer13

Ummmm, just no. Women are not here for the purpose of breeding.

polarbear4

no, but nurturing is awesome and i love that the kitty has her own litter. double love!

WindDancer13

Sure cute pic, but the message is wrong. I would not object if the was a “happy mother’s day” statement, but not fitting for “women’s day.”

phatkhat

Definitely Mother’s Day, but NOT Women’s Day. Love the pic, though! Awwwwwwwww… I hope they have good homes for the babies. All mine are fixed.

Don midwest
Don midwest

eco-facism? tweets from

kai a. Bosworth @kaibosworth
Geographer of populism, pipeline politics, n. american environmentalism, & env justice. Assistant professor, School of World Studies at VCU. @out_woods @the_nhm

We’re nearing a point where more folks are starting to take eco-fascism/green nationalism/climate apartheid a bit more seriously, so it seems like it’s worthwhile to think through some problems that the generic discourse hasn’t yet addressed. Here are some of mine:

1. What is the relationship between ideology, material conditions, and violence?

2. How can we conceptualize the contemporary internationalism of whiteness and settler empire (related to the internet and media infrastructures, in some ways)? How can we situate this historically (whiteness was always a global project) while still accounting for the novel/new?

3. To what degree is contemporary econationalism drawing on pre-war grant/roosevelt style theories of racial purity and protection, post-war hardin-style accounts of population and limits, and contemporary apocalypticism?

4. How can we conceptualize, account for, and (most importantly) dismantle the political economy of anxiety and desire that produces such subjects? What are we missing or doing wrong based on assumptions about where/how such violence has emerged?

5.1 Finally, to what degree are these desires and anxieties being externalized (by liberals and leftists) in a manner that evades or even reproduces the structure of fascism?

5.2 What is our relation to the long tradition of both liberal and marxist thought and criticism that examines that examines “the fascist within”? And how can we pose this question to apolitical/technocratic enviros?

It’s been heartening to see the prominent analysis of “eco-fascism” re-emerging, but seems to me there’s a lot of work and analysis to be done beyond the pithy (if correct) denunciations

[It’s been equally disheartening to see a complete impoverished understanding emerging among eco-marxists that relies on saying “actually, X are the real fascists” (where X is whatever academic specter of a sparring partner they’ve conjured for the moment)]

polarbear4

another turn around. Damn.


Looks like this sort of answer is intended to take votes away from Bernie, regardless of her answers during the debate. She shouldn’t coddle the fear, but rather explain to the retiree that her benefits will increase.

polarbear4

I may get some unfollows, liked and RT’d.

Tyrannocaster

Funny, I just liked that same tweet. It would be a good draw, even though I’m not crazy about her for a lot of reasons. A real hurt would be the loss of two Dem senate seats if that happened.

WindDancer13

The problem with a Bernie/Warren ticket as the DNC will put it is that they are both from the same geographical region and both small states. They will push for someone who comes from another area to help draw in less progressive voters. At which time, Bernie can spring Nina on them and grab Ohio!

polarbear4

That is my hope, but if Bernie and Warren and keep performing like they did in the last debate, there may be a movement, even.

orlbucfan

One problem (and I love Nina to death): we don’t know where she stands on a VP offer. There hasn’t been much discussion among the principal actors on it.

phatkhat

So, Joe Sestak. He’s from Pennsylvania, another swing state.

Tyrannocaster

Yes, that’s correct. I also think Nina would be great, but I don’t think she’s well-known enough. In any case, we know the DNC doesn’t want Bernie so he’s going to have to force the issue.

WindDancer13

No one knew who Biden was until Obama got stuck with him.

Bernie’s problems with the DNC make me think of Sisyphus. Bernie keeps pushing the bounder up the hill, and the DNC keeps rolling it back down. Eventually he is going to drop it on their collective heads.

Tyrannocaster

Can you imagine – Bernie gets the nomination and DNC tries to force Kamala as the VP for identity politics. Nothing is impossible with those jerks. Anyway, right now, Biden is doing better with blacks than anybody. Sorry to say.

humphrey

At least that is what the pollsters are trying to convey to the public. Biden will only result in more blacks staying home if he gets the nomination. The gaffoholic will hopefully cause his own demise.

WindDancer13

If Biden is the nominee, I suspect a LOT of people are going to stay home.
So far, the media is letting the gaffes slide, but I believe Joe is going to bust out with one that cannot be ignored.

Every time, he makes a new one, I think of how Trump will use it, and Joe will not be prepared becasue the media did nothing to make him better.

WindDancer13

We are being fed a crock on that. Just like Hispanics/Latinos, blacks are not a single entity. South Carolina might prefer Biden (at the moment) due to his relationship with Obama, but blacks in different areas see things differently. Polls have been oversampling the South throughout this whole campaign.

polarbear4

Don midwest
Don midwest

ALEC has funneled billionaire money to run state legislature legislation for years

of all places, NC fighting back

Broadband expansion clears NC House committee despite opposition

Don midwest
Don midwest

Shameful. Led by Steny Hoyer stand up and clap for Netenyahoo

Guess they couldn’t turn down a free trip — 41 of them

U.S. DEMOCRATS STAND AND CLAP FOR NETANYAHU
Congressional members tweet little about Israel trip.

Democratic presidential candidates Bernie Sanders and Beto O’Rourke might call Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a “racist,” but a delegation of 41 US House Democrats stood and clapped for him at the end of a two-hour meeting on Wednesday.

The delegation, led by House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and sponsored by an AIPAC-affiliated charity, met Netanyahu in the evening in the Foreign Ministry, after spending much of the morning in Ramallah and a meeting with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. They also clapped for Abbas when he left the room.

orlbucfan

17-18% is not a big group. The ranks of the neoliberal/corporate RW Blue Dogs is gradually shrinking. The goal is to keep primarying/challenging these phonies with genuine democratic progressives.

polarbear4

Don’t know if I can stay in the party that long.

Tyrannocaster

They also gave Trump a standing ovation when he said “This country will never be socialist”. Except Bernie, and a couple others.

humphrey

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berniecats
berniecats

It’s the looks on their faces (other than Bernie’s, of course) that really grosses me out! Ick

WindDancer13

Do you get the feeling that they have the same self-satisfied look as the cat who swallowed the canary? All the pic is missing is the tell-tale feather in the mouth.

Benny

phatkhat

Gawd, I had an awful fight with someone on another forum who said Bernie has NEVER in his whole life, done ANYthing for women or minorities.

magsview

There’s a lot of ignorance out there.

WindDancer13

Standard arguments along with these:

never held a job in his life
never passed a bill
never had any legislative achievements

All are demonstrably incorrect statements, but it would require having to deal in facts.

Tyrannocaster

There is a graphic going around that shows a long list of bills and other things Bernie has done (blue background) but I cannot find a version that has high enough resolution to read properly. If anybody has one, please post it.

WindDancer13

Here ya go:

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WindDancer13

And this:

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jcitybone

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/joe-biden-roundly-condemned-for-latest-gaffe/

Former Vice President Joe Biden provoked alarm and outrage after telling a largely minority audience in Iowa that “poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids,” the most galling in a series of gaffes the presumptive 2020 Democratic frontrunner committed on the campaign trail on Thursday alone.

“If Democrats nominate Biden, he could end up out-gaffeing Trump in the general election campaign,” tweeted Intercept columnist Mehdi Hasan.

Talking Points Memo editor Josh Marshall called Biden’s comments “embarrassing” and said the former Vice President is a “walking gaffe machine.”

Biden misspoke on several other occasions during campaign events in Iowa on Thursday.

During a speech at the Iowa State Fair, the former Vice President said “we choose truth over facts,” sparking confusion on social media.

Biden also mistakenly referred to former British Prime Minister Theresa May as Margaret Thatcher. CNN reporter Daniel Dale noted on Twitter that Thursday night was the second time Biden has committed that misstep since May.

In response to Biden’s series of gaffes, commentators raised serious concerns about Biden’s mental acuity and fitness to be the Democratic nominee.

“Someone who is losing their ability to think and speak is not the best person for the job,” tweeted Parker Molloy, editor-at-large for Media Matters for America.

Torabs
Torabs

I agree with this assessment. I don’t recall Biden being such a train wreck in 2008, egads.

orlbucfan

Orange Moran Imbecile is just as bad!

magsview

A bad moment for Joe, but his many surrogates are doing their best to smooth it out and act like people are overreacting.

I thought him calling Therese May Margaret Thatcher AGAIN was pretty bad too. If Bernie had done something like that not only would they use it to say he was too old, but they’d probably use it to accuse him of sexism.

humphrey

Some might call this a hit job. I call it telling the TRUTH.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/09/kamala-harris-2020-president-profile-san-francisco-elite-227611

How San Francisco’s Wealthiest Families Launched Kamala Harris
At splashy weddings, charity balls and all the right restaurants, she hobnobbed with San Francisco’s moneyed elite—and made lasting allies who backed her at every stage of her political career.

SAN FRANCISCO—In the summer of 1999, in the monied Napa Valley north of here, a bejeweled bride rode sidesaddle on a speckled horse into what the press would label “the Bay Area’s version of an outdoor royal wedding.” The lavish nuptials of Vanessa Jarman and oil heir Billy Getty—replete with red carpet, hundreds of flickering votives, and “a fair amount of wine,” according to one deadpan attendee—featured a 168-person guest list stocked with socialites and scions, philanthropists and other assorted glitterati.

This coterie of the chosen included, as well, a 34-year-old prosecutor who was all of a year and a half into her job in the San Francisco district attorney’s office. And she wasn’t just some celebrity’s all but anonymous plus-one. She was featured in the photo coverage of the hot-ticket affair, smiling wide, decked out in a dark gown with a drink in hand.

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Her rise, however, was propelled in and by a very different milieu. In this less explored piece of her past, Harris used as a launching pad the tightly knit world of San Francisco high society, navigating early on this rarefied world of influence and opulence, charming and partying with movers and shakers—ably cultivating relationships with VIPs who would become friends and also backers and donors of every one of her political campaigns, tapping into deep pockets and becoming a popular figure in a small world dominated by a handful of powerful families. This stratum of San Francisco remains a profoundly important part of her network—including not just powerful Democratic donors but an ambassador appointed by President Donald Trump who ran in the same circles.

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It’s hard to think honestly about the origins of the rise of Harris without grappling with the reality of the role of Brown. He helped her. He put her on a pair of state boards that required not much work and paid her more than $400,000 across five years on top of her salary as a prosecutor. He gave her a BMW. He helped her, too, though, in a way that was less immediately material but arguably far more enduringly important.

“Brown, of course, was the darling of the well-to-do set, if you will,” veteran political consultant Jack Davis, who managed Brown’s mayoral campaign, told me. “And she was the girlfriend, and so she met, you know, everybody who’s anybody, as a result of being his girl.”

My excerpts don’t do justice to the article but it is worth a read to understand Kamala.

humphrey

I think that it is past time to burn the book!

And abolish ICE 💩 while we are at it.

https://thehill.com/latino/456816-authorities-defend-mississippi-ice-raids-textbook-operation

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is defending its agents’ involvement in raids at Mississippi food processing plants on Wednesday after facing backlash for reports of children left without their parents following the mass arrests.

Acting ICE Director Matthew Albence told The Washington Post that Wednesday’s raids, which resulted in nearly 700 arrests of immigrants suspected to not have legal status, were part of a “textbook operation.”

“This was a textbook operation, carried out in a safe manner, and done securely,” Albence said. “Officers were able to execute these warrants in a safe fashion.”

Jerome Miles, ICE’s special agent in charge of its New Orleans office of the Homeland Security Investigation (HSI) unit, told the Post that officials were careful to ensure no children were left in vulnerable circumstances. Miles’s unit ran Wednesday’s ICE raids.

phatkhat

SUSPECTED not to have legal status? Like that citizen they held for three weeks for deportation?

WindDancer13

I’d like to see those warrants.

There has been more than one citizen held for deportation and some who were actually deported (including some who served in the US military). They have also been stripping citizenship from some people.

Benny

polarbear4

Get ’em, Glenn.

WindDancer13

One would think this would be the major news story of the day. Why isn’t it?

According to RoF, Nadler made this announcement on CNN yesterday.

orlbucfan

Fingers and toes are x’ed!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 I respect this man and have since he was elected.

Tyrannocaster

Counterpoint (Garber is an impeachment lawyer):

WindDancer13

I have played all sorts of video games, though not nearly as many as others. I have yet to play one or see an ad for one or read a review for one that in any way targeted innocent people. (They may be out there, just saying I have never seen them.)

polarbear4

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Tyrannocaster

Greenwald’s snark is sometimes bewildering.

polarbear4

I like using Bernie’s voice for meditation and as chimes. LOL

magsview

Haha, I’ve been reading him for so long that it doesn’t even occur to me to NOT read the snark. But, now that you mention it, if one isn’t too familiar with him it might be “bewildering” as you say.

WindDancer13

Now just imagine this being said with a Brooklyn accent.

humphrey

WindDancer13

I do not know if it was a typo, but somewhere today I saw him called Mayo Pete. Seems fitting.

phatkhat

I read somewhere (here?) that Mayor Pete has been quietly working the super delegates already – just like $hillary.

humphrey

WindDancer13

Lol, she loves her name. Even the city buses here look more artistic.

humphrey

This is a polite way of putting sleepy Joe’s senility.

wi61

Ha- Biden and Trumpcorp not much of a difference in that medical condition

humphrey

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polarbear4

i will wrench the money out of your souls, demon dnc! 😂

wi61

Perez

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WindDancer13

There seems to be indications that the ICE raids are being carried out with a motive that goes beyond just immigration issues.

To those who do not think the Holocaust is possible in the US, this was said in the comment section for this video:

MAGA_ZOG Failure
24 minutes ago
Put all of them in cages. Use a flamethrower on them and their children.

phatkhat

Has anyone here looked into Joe Sestak? I donated to his senate run – which the DNC quashed – in favor of windsock Demopublican Arlen Specter, much like they did Bernie in 2016. He has a really detailed website with his priorities and plans, and, aside from a few quibbles, he looks pretty good.

My biggest quibble is that he wants to rehab ACA with a public option and let the market prove that public healthcare is better than insurance companies. He holds up the VA and Medicare as the model for the ultimate goal of a national healthcare.

One thing I love in his policies is his plan for agriculture. He wants to end subsidies for mega farms and give them to small farmers for switching to sustainable farming, and to have scientific research into the harms of GMO and pesticides.

I like him a lot better than Warren, actually. He seems more genuinely progressive, though she does have a lot of good ideas. I’d rather she stay in the Senate or be in a cabinet position. I really don’t trust her, somehow.

humphrey

Regardless of Sestak’s policies he has a snowball’s chance of sticking around due to the size of the field. His odds are similar to those of Mike Gravel.

phatkhat

Gravel wasn’t in it to win it, just to make some points. I was for Gravel in 2008. I sent Sestak a donation. I hope he gets enough traction to get in the next debates. He seems pretty formidable if he can get heard.

magsview

Yes!

WindDancer13

Very well written and worth a read. Thanks!

Though I found a few candidates I liked, most share a similar flaw: political records at odds with their new, 2020 personas. Moreover, I found myself repeatedly defending Bernie to folks so eager to elect anyone but “another old, white man” that they willfully ignored these ‘newer’ candidates’ political inconsistencies.

humphrey

I just figured what John Delaney should do.

He should drop out and get a job at McDonalds.

Tyrannocaster

My, how “of the people” of him. Bet he hugs babies, too. What a regular guy!

polarbear4

hr1384 is jayapal’s bill. @agathabacelar— challenging pelosi ( and shahid). agatha is for hr 1384.

polarbear4

so it looks like jayapal’s. wonder if she leaves more insurance intact than bernie. hmmmm. i’ll just like agatha’s last tweet and comment later, if appropriate.

WindDancer13

I have not read the entire thing yet, but this looks to be a very good comparision between the two bills. Rep Jayapal and Sen Sanders Have Introduced Medicare For All Bills: One Is a Lot Better Than the Other

When you have two similar or competing bills introduced between the two chambers, they entire a phase where a committee tries to reconcile the two into one. I expect that is what will happen with these two . . . eventually.

polarbear4

thanks!!!!

humphrey

I think that hr refers to a “house resolution”

polarbear4

this is getting even uglier.

polarbear4

RIP Okjökull

humphrey

polarbear4

Tyrannocaster

Cool, but “The Persian Empire”? Really?

magsview

Why not?

I had a French teacher in high school that described himself as Persian. It was obvious that he felt very strongly about it. A big man, proud but jovial, with a generous head of hair and beard, Mr. Hakim.

WindDancer13

Yes, really.

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WindDancer13

Love it! I often wonder how many historians cry (I know I do) when when they think of the history that has been destroyed by wars. The Iraq area (between the Euphrates and the Tigris) is known as the Cradle of Civilization. Who knows how much has been permanently lost.

magsview

I’m not a historian, but I’ll never forget the sad feelings I had during Bush Jr’s Iraq invasion when they went in like bulls in a china store, and the damage to sites, and the chaos that enabled so much looting.

WindDancer13

Have you seen the before and after pictures of Iraq, Libya and two others I cannot think of at the moment? The devastation is beyond horrible when you can see what their cities looked like before the US arrived, guns ablazing.

phatkhat

Yes, and they tended to be fairly secular. In Germany, my best friend was an Iranian woman, and she talked about the damage the US caused in her government.

humphrey

Tyrannocaster

David Dayen’s counterpoint is valid, even though some Berners jumped on him. I respect Dayen and I respect Bernie; there’s nothing wrong in pointing out a weakness in policy AFAIC. We’re followers, but not blind followers.

humphrey

Your statement is correct but often the leadership of these organizations are often members of the establishment concerned about their own well being and do not reflect the overall membership. eg. the NRA. Also this list includes Emily’s List. Planned Parenthood and a number of the unions.

magsview

Absolutely. MFA in Canada back in 1959/60 when it was first proposed in Saskatchewan had to battle the entire medical hierarchy who had deep pockets and spent freely against it.

The organized medical establishment was not nearly so reticent and mounted a ferocious propaganda campaign fronted by the local College of Physicians and Surgeons with the support of the Canadian Medical Association (CMA), the AMA, the local economic elite and most of the media in the province. The College wielded tremendous power and discipline because it was the only economic group representing doctors and was also the licensing body which determined who could practice medicine. Doctors who favoured Medicare were isolated and ostracized by the hierarchy of the profession. The local medical hierarchy in 1960 took much of their advice from outsiders and adopted tactics which had proved successful in many similar campaigns in the United States. They amassed $100,000 for propaganda purposes, a tremendous sum in 1960 and far more than any party would spend in a Saskatchewan provincial election. Every household received printed propaganda and advertisements flooded the radio and newspapers. Public meetings were held throughout the province and were addressed by prominent doctors and supporters, often under the auspices of local Chambers of Commerce and Boards of Trade.

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/the-birth-of-medicare

humphrey

phatkhat

Sheesh. I’m afraid to even put a Bernie sticker on my truck, this is such Trump country. I do have a button on my purse, though. Sometimes people tell me they like it – almost in a whisper.

wi61

so far so good for me with my bumper sticker. In a deep red area

eve

Morning Joe 8/1/19 gave Bernie Sanders a chance to answer questions. And that he did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

polarbear4


excerpt

“On the military’s use of “Third Country Nationals” on bases in Iraq:

We started making friends with what were called the Third Country Nationals that were hired by KBR Halliburton to come and do things like clean the outhouses, or cook the meals in the chow hall, so we’d start to make friends with them and talk with them and go outside behind the tent, start cooking rice and sharing food, and just started asking them, “Hey, how much are you guys making? How are you being treated?”

It was outrageous to see. I mean, hearing, “Oh, I get paid $500 a month,” a month, “to work 12-hour days, six, seven days a week.” “How often do you get home to see your family?”

“Maybe once a year, but probably every other year.”

And just knowing the billions of dollars these companies are making, and really to have this indentured servitude, it just, it went to, “Well this is the military industrial complex.””

WindDancer13

Facts are so important.

polarbear4

vice has a vm thread, followed by jenny with an action

Benny

Here’s How Much 2020 Dems Are Raising in Michigan

Nearly two dozen Democratic presidential candidates raised more than $3 million total from Michigan donors during the first six months of the year, buoyed in large part by tens of thousands of small-dollar donors.

At least 58,770 Michiganians made about 138,470 contributions to the campaigns of the major Democratic contenders through June 30, according to a campaign finance data analysis by the Center for Public Integrity.

Approximately 10,000 Michigan donors gave to more than one of the 23 Democratic hopefuls, including a St. Joseph woman who opened her wallet to 21 different candidates.

Nearly 1 in 3 of the dollars raised for the Democrats in Michigan went to U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent, who led the pack with $895,500 from roughly 50,900 donors.

Sanders has also raised the most nationally ($46 million) and has the most individual donors among the Democratic candidates.

He was followed by South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg with just over $586,000 raised from about 17,050 Michigan donors this year, and Massachusetts U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren with nearly $454,700 from 19,500 donors.

Others who raised over $100,000 in Michigan include California U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris ($276,200), former Vice President Joe Biden ($272,150) and former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke ($105,400).

The database compiled by the Center for Public Integrity is the most comprehensive look yet at 2020 contributions to the Democrats because it captures the many small-dollar donors giving a total of $200 or less — contributions that are not required to be itemized by the presidential campaigns.

humphrey

Kudos to the enthusiastic volunteers!

magsview

That’s awesome, but why just Democratic doors?

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polarbear4

about time

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magsview

Romanoff sounds like he might be the real deal. I hope his last name isn’t a factor in today’s crazy world.

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