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jcitybone

Oh no–so sorry to hear about that! And on top of all the dental grief you have been going through. A rough patch for you

The only things I ever had stolen have been car related–an entire car, some contents, and radios, but not for a long time (since the advent of effective car alarms). Remember those steering wheel locks–and removable radios! I guess I have been pretty lucky.

Spring Texan

The only thing I’ve ever had stolen was a car radio also, but even that was very emotional for me and made me determine to leave that apartment. Can’t even imagine the emotional impact of someone you know and were trying to help stealing from you.

But two people in my extended family have had sons/brothers who forged checks on their accounts or stole things from the house . . . which I guess is even worse. Some people are untrustworthy.

My profound sympathy.

I really liked a “restorative justice” program in California I heard about once involving property crimes. The deal was if the perpetrator agreed, they would stay out of prison/jail and on probation, but at an unpredicted time during the next six months, the burglary victim would be allowed to enter the thief’s home and take whatever they wanted (some didn’t take anything and some took a lot). The idea was that this would make the thief understand that even a burglary really hurts people.

magsview

That’s a very interesting program! “restorative justice”, hmmm, walking in someone else’s shoes for awhile, sort of.

Spring Texan

After the car radio theft, one thing I did NOT do is fall for buying an expensive alarm. I do think good locks are a great investment and the best protection, including window locks.

Spring Texan

You still have your sense of humor because I loved your comment about “outside of the elections of course” (and that too has an emotional impact).

Hunker down and rest for a while and recover mentally before making any quick decisions about added security/how to defend yourselves/routes out? It can wait a week or two. Then ponder these things prudently.

A great book about paying real attention to fear and responding appropriately to it, but not overreacting, in the best way to protect yourself is Gavin de Becker’s The Gift of Fear. Although his focus is on violence rather than property stuff, he just has really good sense.

polarbear4

Thanks. I’ll look at it, too.

magsview

Wow, so sorry to hear about something being stolen! That can make one feel so violated. Just yesterday I was recounting to my husband about one of the times I’ve been robbed and I ended up my story by saying, “Why can’t people just keep their hands off other people’s stuff??!”.

The worst robbery I experienced was coming home, alone, from being out with friends to find my entire apartment burgled. The open window, screen flapping in the winter wind, told the story, along with the big boot print on my window ledge and the huge crowbar left behind, and of course the empty spots where my tv and stereo had been.

The robber had been in my bedroom, as evidenced by what little bit of jewelry I had being gone and my camera and a suede coat I’d received as a gift being missing from my bedroom closet.

As a young, single woman at the time, it definitely rattled me. Faith in humanity shaken and semblance of safety shattered. I took to sleeping with a butcher knife next to my bed on the night table, which I knew was probably ridiculous because I have a hard time even hurting a fly, but it helped me sleep at night and if push comes to shove I’m a fighter if someone comes at me. I’ve had to defend myself from a rape attempt (or two), so I know that my instinct is to fight back. Probably not the best response for a simple robbery, but I’ll fight until I’m out cold for an attack on my person.

Please try to remember that there are more good people than bad and all the best in having your faith in humanity restored!!

Leu2500
Leu2500

I came home one night to find a cement block had been used to break into my back door (French door, lots of glass). It’s been several years and I STILL find glass. Thankfully, my cats were ok. They took some electronics, but left the TVs – it took me a bit to realize that was because they weren’t flat screens. They pulled out every top drawer – so don’t hide your money/valuables there – and checked closet shelves.

The stuff they took wasn’t worth much. But the expense of getting the back door boarded up, then the glass replaced – ouch! But still not high enough to file an insurance claim.

My carport/porch lights were off, and the streetlight outside was burnt out. Those lights stay on 24/7 now, and I am on the city’s case to replace the streetlight when it goes out. I also have a baseball bat by my bed. I think I slept with all the house lights on for a week after the break in. It’s definitely unsettling.

magsview

Even Goodwill won’t take old TVs these days! I don’t have a flat screen yet, our TVs are fine. But I’ll admit that my friend’s flatscreen TV is captivating. During baseball games you feel like you’re standing on the grass with the players!

Sorry to hear, though, about how you feel the need for more lights now. I’ve since transitioned from a butcher knife to my softball bat. I’ve always been the sort who wakes up when someone even just puts their hand on the doorknob, but hubby is a deep sleeper, so I imagine that if there was any trouble I’ll be the first to know.

Good luck!

Caerus
Caerus

So sorry you’ve both experienced this kind of violence. Think it is violence, an attack on the trust, caring you both have, shakes our sense of well being, and trust. Hope you’re healing from all the dental work you’ve had. A LOT to deal with.
I’m not as interested in what Bernie is saying and doing now. Still wish he had fought the corruption in the primary system harder than he did, and didn’t endorse Her Heiniousness, weary with all of it.

belle de jour

“I’m not as interested in what Bernie is saying and doing now. Still wish he had fought the corruption in the primary system harder than he did, and didn’t endorse Her Heiniousness, weary with all of it.”

Thank you! I’ve gotten to the point where I have no more time and energy for delusions, where I believe effective action and change begin in the truth of facing things & people as they are, and where I absolutely recognize that I have almost zero tolerance or patience left for wasting time with incremental compromise and wishful thinking.

Could you please tell me if you’ve found a discussion site where progressives can be openly realistic about all of the above, without raining on everyone else’s optimism parade? I would really appreciate it!

polarbear4

We would be sad to lose you, belle. Hope you will still come here too, if you find a site more suited.

I hope that we all want to discuss ALL the ways that we might move forward with the ideals and values we united around, as well as be able to at least listen to criticism….

belle de jour

I believe in TPW, pb! I believe in it so much that I wish it were already a third party.
Thank you for your kind comment.

As more a matter of personal discipline and temperament and manners, I was also hoping to catch word of an additional site where blatantly disgruntled & impatient types like myself could vent with naked spleen & abandon.

polarbear4

oh phew! I’ll let you know if i spy one or two.

Common Dreams commenters (the regulars) can be pretty radical and blunt. But you can’t just put up a diary there, all you can do is comment.

belle de jour

Somehow, I feel sure I can make my comment feel like a never-ending diary.

Thanks for the nod; I’ll check it out.

Caerus
Caerus

belle de jour, wish I could give some positive advice, but can’t. Very sad to see the now emphasis on Jill Stein. Don’t think she’s a leader, jumped on what’s left of the band wagon after Bernie quit. NO interest in who she’s chosen, seems last ditch after several attempts for others, for VP. Green Party seems disorganized, a little different emphasis in each state in which it has “members.” Not a national party, IMHO. But caucus99% posts are pushing it as an alternative to Bernie Sanders. Don’t see it. Wonder where Jill Stein would be now if Bernie and Jane Sanders hadn’t done year of work they did?
Still lagging as before, I expect.

SO, really, nothing positive. Jeff Weaver has sold out completely to Clintons, no mater what he says he’s doing now for “revolution” – think that’s because so much staff quit.
Not participating much in “discussions” – haven’t got much to say, and not interested in most of what I see to read.
Sorry if this sounds cynical, for me it’s more practical. 71 years young, and not interested in wasting any more of my time or money on what I’ve seen happening in the Democratic party that’s for sure, and with Bernie Sanders gung ho to elect Her Heiniousness, well, I think Trump is a much lesser evil.

A few good things about Gary Johnson & Bill Weld, but not enough to venture out in the cold of a MA November day either. Also, some of their platform is abhorrent!

Hope you find a way of dealing with all this, agree with you completely, have no advice of how to deal with it, other than to concentrate on other things in your life, and world meaningful to you. Don’t believe optimism & wishful thinking are productive now, distracting from reality more than anything.

belle de jour

Thanks for your honest answer, C.

I’m dragging myself to vote in this last round. Barely.

Am with you all the way in your last paragraph. Distraction designed by someone else – that does not produce something more creative, by me following that obligation – is on my renewed list of things to regulate.

And although I haven’t yet made it to 71, I do understand the re-prioritization you are talking about, as well as your impatience with dicking around anymore.

magsview

Optimism parade? Gee I WISH I felt optimistic! 😉

If you find what you think is a good site for you, please share with us. I don’t feel much optimism at all, I am ‘woke’ now, as the kids say.

But I feel as though I am being “realistic” about what can be done in the midst of all of the corruption.

Hubby has voted straight ticket Dem with only a couple of exceptions (Jodi Rell & our mayor, the Dem candidate for mayor was a mess) for decades. This year, I’ll be lucky if I can even get him to the voting booth. But I’m going to try because I’ve been zeroing in on some state & local level elections that might make a small difference. I find it takes a lot of work to seek out good people to support!

Here’s a young lady, Lauren Shaw, that I find very appealing. Not our area, but maybe I can help her out in some way. From her web site (which shares our colors here, btw):

As an independent thinker working with the Green Party, I am outside the two-party system, focusing on solutions to Connecticut’s economic crisis based on common sense and a comparative analysis of successful economic policies. I will fight for new strategies of fiscal management, beginning with a public banking system that will treat Connecticut’s taxpayer money with the efficiency and respect that Hartford owes its citizens.

jane123
jane123

I understand how you are feeling because I feel the same. I am disappointed that Bernie did not fight harder, especially given that he won the primary. Maybe one day we’ll find out why…at the end of the day he’s only one man and the Clinton deck was heavily stacked against him. I hold nothing against Bernie but my interest, like yours, has definitely dissipated. I don’t think you will find a better place than here at TPW… I have come to realize that after my own wandering after the coronation…I still am dealing with a lot of anger, disappointment and frustration and the realization that, as a voter and a democrat, I don’t matter…that hurts because up till this primary season, I was proud and happy to be a democrat and it is a long deadfall to where I am now. Watching this ‘gun to our heads’ general with all the ‘deification’ of Clinton is enough to make me lose my mind coupled with the Trump ‘yes, I’m the stupidest campaign plant in history’ show, heightens a feeling of total helplessness for our future and our democracy that is unnerving to say the least..good luck as you try to continue to try and make sense out of it all if that is even possible anymore.

belle de jour

Very much at loose ends here. I’d never had the patience – or the least amount of enthusiasm – for “practical” party politics before Obama… and then, exponentially increased, Bernie’s far better sliver of hope to get beyond all that this year happened.

(To be clearer: have protested, have been arrested, have fought local battles, have debated in public, have written a ton in different formats and venues, etc., for all the good stuff; I mean I’d never had the moral or intellectual patience or stomach to put up with pandering and horse trading and the hypocrisy of principle compromise before.)

Am beginning to think my instincts were correct – sad, but correct – and that for some of us, the individual and lonely revolutions we manage to work into our own lives are the ones we can believe in, or stay truest to.

What a path. I campaigned, hard, for Obama (the fist time round); we all know how that turned out. Bernie was another matter; amongst other things, I was truly radicalized beyond anything and everything before, mentally & emotionally & spiritually.

It is difficult to accept that may well be my last hurrah towards ever feeling or believing that way again. But I suspect it is.

And you know what? It does matter to me that Bernie betrayed himself, his principles and us. The irony of all ironies may be that an idealistic outsider politician turned a bunch of dormant idealistic revolutionaries into ten times the jaded political cynics they were before.

belle de jour

Wanted to add Good Luck to you, too, and a sincere thank you.

It hurts all reason and all heart what has happened, and I appreciate you sharing not only your thoughts, but your feelings as well.

My only suggestion out of helplessness is changing the parameters of the size of your arena you agree to fight in. My own has now grown selective – and will move elsewhere, I suspect.

Spring Texan

I agree that this sort of theft IS a form of violence. Even my car radio theft affected me that way, and I’m sure anything at home would affect me much more. I remember now I did have one more surprising theft which angered and bemused me but didn’t seem as personal as the car radio. I came out from lunch one day and the tailgate of my truck had been neatly removed!! (in broad daylight, at least the radio theft was at night)

I think it affected me less because they hadn’t invaded the interior of the car and because it was not at my home but at the worksite on a temporary job. It was certainly no less expensive than the radio though.

KnotIookin
KnotIookin

When I was living in my loft I came home one day to find the door had been busted down and my loft had been ransacked… I freaked out… Called a friend to help deal.. He came over… Reattached the door helped me clean up and try to assess all that was stolen and stayed the night. He stayed the next day too and then the next and he and I eventually got married.

While I lost some very valuable things (jewelry, camera equipment extra) I actually gained more (smile)

polarbear4

Awwwww, thanks for sharing! Hope springs eternal when I hear a story like that. :O)

belle de jour

Awwww…. the right one stole the most valuable thing you had,… your heart 🙂

magsview

Great story Knot!

eve

FWIW, when I’ve been away from the computer for a while and I have to log in to TPW, I am unable to log on with my user name and pw because they are not recognized by WP. However, after answering the numerical question I am given the option to log on with my user name or email address.
If I choose my email address instead of my user name, TPW/WP recognizes my log on.

Laura
Laura

Same happens with me. I have to use my email address, no luck with my user name.

humphrey

I never log out from this site. Most of the time when I return I am still logged in. Occasionally I have to login once again. It usually takes more than one of the math tests to get back in.

NVPainter

Same here!

Creosote
Creosote

I’ve thought about not logging out — never did so at the other place and it didn’t seem to be a probem there. But here I’m wondering if not logging out means your image appears in the “who’s here now” list. Maybe @LieparDestin knows?

Benny

I’m truly sorry to see the theft, LD. It’s happened to me in my lifetime a few times, but not by someone I know. That’s tough. I hope you and JDestin get this sorted out.

I’ll comment in Magsview’s diary about the Our Revolution Launch.

Meantime, I will say that I’m having trouble with Paypal. It’s the first time I’ve signed up for an account, I’ve avoided for years, and unfortunately, for a good reason. It’s not been a good experience–it keeps wanting to charge me every week. I hope to resolve it, but if not, I’ll shoot you an e-mail.

jbob

I’m sorry you guys got taken by a “friend”. It was in Houston TX where myself and another sound man walked out of the hotel to find our rental truck with the New Riders of the Purple Sage back line equipment and many of our personal belongings gone from the parking lot. Talk about freaked out! I remember just walking around and around the empty parking space thinking “I know we parked it here”! We had a gig that night down in Austin at the Armadillo World Headquarters. The other sound guy stayed to deal with the cops and I went to the gig with the band. They played on borrowed gear from the opening act and some other local musicians. Bad times indeed!

polarbear4

New Riders of the Purple Sage–sounds like great fun, for a job. :O)

magsview

The Armadillo World Headquarters? I hope insurance covered everything! Why did they have to pick on hard-working musicians…and sound men?? Grrrrr

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