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orlbucfan

T and R, LD!! Thanks mags for the thoughtful 9-11 post. I don’t support any military rah-rah stuff. The Far Right Nut/Greed/Fringe creep cabal has controlled this country for the last few years. Look at all the destruction they have wrought!

magsview

Thank you orlbucfan! I’m a ‘peacenik’ from aways back, so when I saw the articles about the never-ending war I jumped on it.

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jcitybone

There’s a BERN up at DK (after a long period of time since the last one) that could use some clicks. Its relative lack of popularity (on Rec List but near bottom) shows the state of DK today.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/09/11/1884742/-BERN-it-up:-I-did-not-get-into-politics-to-figure-out-how-to-become-president

magsview

I tried to help.

jcitybone

https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/orange-county-news/presidential-candidate-bernie-sanders-set-to-hold-rally-at-unc/

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders is set to hold a rally at UNC next week, according to the UNC Young Democrats.

A social media post by the student organization on Wednesday night said, “We’re honored to host Bernie Sanders on September 19!”

According to the organization, the rally will be held at 5:30 p.m. at the Bell Tower Amphitheater on UNC’s campus.

More details and student ticketing information will be released in the coming days.

jcitybone

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-social-security.html

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts unveiled a plan on Thursday to give all recipients of Social Security benefits an extra $200 per month and to pay for it by raising taxes on the rich, her latest economic proposal to redistribute wealth in the United States.

Ms. Warren, whose support has been rising steadily in polling of the Democratic presidential race, announced the plan ahead of a Democratic primary debate on Thursday evening. The proposal appeared to be targeted directly at older voters who have been gravitating toward former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., who thus far is the front-runner in the primary campaign.

“It’s time Washington stopped trying to slash Social Security benefits for people who’ve earned them,” Ms. Warren wrote in a post on Medium. “It’s time to expand Social Security.”

orlbucfan

How about getting rid of the Raygun (her hero) cap, Liz?

jcitybone

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/12/warren-obama-2020-228068

But interviews with more than 50 top officials in the Obama White House and Treasury Department, members of Warren’s inner circle at the time, and Warren herself, reveal a far more combative relationship between her and the administration than she usually discusses on the campaign trail. Tensions between Warren and Obama were palpable to White House aides, even as she reserved her real fury for Geithner and White House National Economic Council chief Larry Summers, whom she regarded as predisposed towards big banks over families struggling to save their homes.

For Warren herself, the years of the financial crisis are now the touchstone of her political career, validating the conviction at the heart of her presidential candidacy: that the system is rigged.

The acrimonious differences between Warren and her allies, and members of the Obama team, led in part to her decision, with prodding from Obama himself, to leave the administration to run for the Senate rather than continue pursuing the leadership of the consumer-protection bureau. But they never fully abated, and now represent dueling approaches to Democratic economic policy-making, presenting the possibility that the next Democratic president will have ascended to the height of Democratic Party politics in part by bashing the previous one.

Thus, while former Vice President Joe Biden often boasts on the campaign trail that his and Obama’s efforts saved the economy from another Great Depression, Warren regards the Obama administration’s top-down response to the financial crisis as part of the reason a man like Donald Trump won the White House eight years later.

Tyrannocaster

Interesting to see how Warren is starting to get positive press now, isn’t it? It’s almost like the word went out. Make of it what you will, to me it signals the end of Biden.

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Torabs

Warren is the last resort of the establishment Dems, and it seems increasingly likely that they’ll try to lean on her to bail them out. I agree with the above posters that there are merits to not going on the attack against her until Biden’s run is dead and buried. But she will be a formidable opponent, when the time comes.

wi61

Could be the end for him Tonight

jcitybone

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/09/12/medicare-for-all-would-cut-poverty-by-over-20-percent/

The Census released its annual income, poverty, and health insurance statistics earlier this week. The summary report shows that 8 million of the nation’s 42.5 million poor people would not be poor if they did not have to pay medical out-of-pocket (MOOP) expenses like deductibles, copays, coinsurance, and self-payments. Medicare for All (M4A) virtually eliminates these kinds of payments, meaning that these 8 million people (18.8 percent of all poor people) would find themselves lifted over the poverty threshold if M4A were enacted.

This headcount poverty measure actually understates how significant MOOP expenses are to poverty in this country. According to this same data, in 2018, the total poverty gap stood at $175.8 billion. This figure is derived by calculating how far each poor family’s income is below the poverty line and then adding those calculations together to get an aggregate amount. MOOP expenses make up $38.2 billion of that total gap, meaning that Medicare for All would cut poverty by about 22 percent.

Tyrannocaster

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magsview

Even Trump is trying to ignore Bernie.

The campaign also plans to take out two full-page advertisements in local newspapers taking aim at Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), former Vice President Joe Biden and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro. The ads will run in Houston and in San Antonio, where Castro was born, the campaign said.

jcitybone

https://theweek.com/articles/864182/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-dent-bidens-electability-edge

It is rather odd how Sanders has consistently polled as the second-strongest candidate against Trump, despite being the most left-wing candidate in the race. Indeed, a recent poll of Texas (Texas!) showed him doing best of all, defeating Trump by six points as compared to four for Biden. Now, one should not assume Texas is in the bag, of course, but it certainly provides evidence for the proposition that Sanders’ radical politics have not harmed him much in national perceptions.

I would hazard a guess that this comes largely down to class affect. Biden and Sanders have wildly different politics and records, but both project a sort of outsider working-class persona. Warren has quite similar positions to Sanders on most things, but comes across as much more intellectual and professional. Looking at the diverse class and racial background of Sanders supporters, we might reasonably surmise that people with less education and income — people who are usually less committed politically — tend to be attracted to people who don’t seem like educated elites.

polarbear4

Could it be that his policies will really, really help people immensely?

Torabs
Torabs

Exactly! Elites blaming poor people for their problems, what else is new?

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Benny

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magsview

Elizabeth Warren Is a Hypocrite, Says Hypocrite Ed Rendell

Rendell, the former Philly mayor, former Pennsylvania governor, former chair of the Democratic National Committee, and current player on Team Joe Biden, lobbed the charge at Warren in a Washington Post op-ed titled “I like Elizabeth Warren. Too bad she’s a hypocrite.”

There are two main reasons Rendell says Warren is a hypocrite:

First, when Warren announced her current presidential campaign, she said she’d shun big-ticket fundraisers, but then she transferred more than $10 million from her U.S. Senate reelection campaign fund into her presidential campaign fund, and much of that money came from larger donations. If she weren’t a hypocrite, Rendell argues, she would have transferred money that came from smaller donations only.

Second, Warren criticized Biden for his “swanky private” fundraiser that happened in Philadelphia in April, and Rendell points out that nearly 20 of the attendees at that Biden fundraiser, which Rendell helped organize, gave Warren $2,000 and up in 2018 at similar fundraisers for her.

“Warren didn’t seem to have any trouble taking our money in 2018, but suddenly we were power brokers and influence peddlers in 2019,” Rendell opines. “The year before, we were wonderful. I co-chaired one of the events for the senator and received a glowing, handwritten thank-you letter from her for my hard work. It seemed odd to some of us who gave her money that Warren was experiencing an epiphany less than 12 months later.”

And, actually, Rendell admits in the anti-Warren op-ed that Barack Obama was also hypocritical when it came to how he talked about fundraising versus how he actually filled his campaign coffers.

Of course, you don’t get to have a Democratic Party machine-heavy résumé like the one Rendell has without being a hypocrite yourself.

Not to mention the fact that Rendell’s candidate Biden has been blasted as a hypocrite on matters much more serious than anything Rendell could possibly throw at Warren. But who’s keeping score?

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/09/12/elizabeth-warren-ed-rendell-hypocrite/

jcitybone

Well we know I’ve candidate who is not a hypocrite in this area. I wonder if it will come up in the debate.

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jcitybone

I’m not sure about this take because Rendell does not think being beholden to big money is bad. After all he’s a Biden supporter. I don’t think they like to see Warren being pointed out as hypocritical, regardless of how they actually feel about big money.

magsview

For polarbear especially:

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jcitybone

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/09/sanders-vs-warren-who-has-more-working-class-donors/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=r%2F_-more-working-class-donor-091219

An OpenSecrets review of campaign contributions — including those giving small amounts through the fundraising service ActBlue — reveals that among the 2020 Democrats, Sanders gets the most support from Americans in typically working-class jobs –– and it isn’t close.

The Vermont senator is the top recipient among farmers, servers, social workers, retail workers, photographers, construction workers, truckers, nurses and drivers, among several other groups. Each of those professions — which don’t typically provide much campaign cash — earn near or below the median income, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Sanders has raised $46 million in total, far more than his primary opponents, so it’s no surprise he leads among the most professions. But it’s his margin of victory that stands out.

Of all the money going to 2020 Democrats from servers — one of the lowest-paying jobs in the country — more than half went to Sanders alone. As the first major presidential candidate to propose eliminating student debt, Sanders took in one quarter of all students’ contributions to Democratic presidential hopefuls.

Warren leads the field among some of the most highly-educated Americans such as scientists and psychotherapists. While Sanders is the top recipient among teachers, Warren, a former Harvard Law School professor, gets the most support from professors.

That dichotomy backs up polling that Sanders performs better with lower-income and less-educated Americans — and it may help explain the difference between the two senators.

magsview

This was a couple of days ago:

Dems question Trump official on lands, Native Americans

Skeptical Democrats questioned a Trump administration official Tuesday on whether he’s committed to preserving public lands and whether he respects Native Americans.

William Perry Pendley, acting director of the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, appeared before the House Natural Resources Committee in Washington to answer questions about the administration’s plans to move bureau headquarters from the District of Columbia to the West, closer to the 388,000 square miles (1 million square kilometers) the agency oversees.

The toughest questions were about his attitude toward public lands and Native Americans.

Rep. Joe Neguse, a Colorado Democrat, asked Pendley about a 2016 article he wrote saying the nation’s founders intended for the federal government to sell all its land.

“I have never advocated the wholesale disposal or transfer of those lands,” Pendley said. “I support the president and (Interior Secretary David) Bernhardt in their crystal-clear opposition to the wholesale disposal or transfer of public lands.”

Neguse asked if the word “wholesale” was a loophole that would allow the administration to sell or transfer land. Pendley replied that he was referring to Congress’ authority to mandate transfers.

“There may be case-specific circumstances where we do transfer or dispose, but Congress is the boss,” Pendley said.

Rep. Deb Haaland, a New Mexico Democrat and a citizen of the Laguna Pueblo, brought up allegations that in a 2009 meeting of Republicans, Pendley mocked Native Americans for wanting to protect land they consider holy. She said Pendley reportedly used his fingers to indicate quotation marks around the word “holy.”

She asked Pendley if that was appropriate for an employee of the Bureau of Land Management, which protects culturally important areas.

“I was not speaking as a member of the BLM. I was speaking as a private attorney representing private clients,” Pendley said.

“So you were able to just forget what you did back then, and now that you’re working for BLM, everything’s OK?” Haaland shot back.

Pendley answered that the American people are now his clients, and “I’m a zealous advocate for my client.”

He said he was happy to now work with Native Americans, particularly on energy development.

Before he joined the Bureau of Land Management, Pendley represented an oil company in a legal dispute over proposed oil and gas drilling on Montana land considered sacred by the Blackfoot tribes of the U.S. and Canada and said the tribes’ concerns were driven by “religious myth.”

“There’s absolutely nothing there,” Pendley told an Associated Press reporter last year. “The tribe is simply saying ‘It’s part of our myth. The whole area is part of our myth.'”

Pendley is a longtime advocate for ranchers and others in disputes with the federal government over grazing and other uses of public lands. Environmental groups called his appointment alarming, but some Western ranchers were pleased, saying it was a sign the Trump administration was pushing to open public lands to all uses, including grazing and mining.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/state-news/dems-question-trump-official-on-lands-native-americans

magsview

Has anyone else noticed the color of the sunsets lately? And sunrises? I can only say I noticed the extra purple color at sunset.

polarbear4

ha! thought it was me.

magsview

Did I just step into The Twilight Zone?

magsview

Hillary Clinton, seated at a mock Resolute Desk, reads her once-controversial emails at a Venice art exhibit

Hillary Clinton took to Twitter on Thursday to share a surreal photo: It showed her seated at a mock Resolute Desk reading emails that she sent from a private server that became a target of congressional Republicans and President Trump.

The photo captured her visit two days earlier to an art exhibition in Venice, called “HILLARY: The Hillary Clinton Emails.”

“Found my emails at the Venice Biennale. Someone alert the House GOP,” Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, wrote in her tweet.

polarbear4

do they include the ones where they talked about knee capping Bernie? About using the Russians as a foil? And so on.

wi61

And the ones to the DNC giving them their orders to rig the superdelegates.This time around the DNC operatives are having the media spread the shit regarding superdelegates.

jcitybone

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-debates-2020-electability-polls.html

Now that it’s finally less than one full football season until actual voting starts, though, it might be time to start looking through the lens not of narrative and potential but of which candidate is going to secure the nomination by winning the most party delegates through the primary process. And from that perspective, Sanders is doing pretty well. The first four states to hold primaries or caucuses are Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina; this week Sanders has led a New Hampshire poll and a Nevada poll, and been within the margin of error of Biden in another New Hampshire poll and an Iowa poll.

Democratic voters are notoriously concerned with “electability” this cycle, and while the socialism thing makes that fraught for Sanders, if he starts winning elections and continues beating Trump in every head-to-head poll, he will start seeming more “electable.” (Even now, Democrats, at least by one measure, see him as more electable than any other candidate except Biden.) According to Morning Consult polling, Sanders is also the preferred “second choice” candidate of a majority of Biden and Warren supporters, which means he’d surge if one of those individuals were to, say, be heckled out of the race for, hypothetically, referring repeatedly to Beto O’Rourke as “Bobby” during a debate and claiming to have hosted Medgar Evers in the White House in 2011.

Sanders can stay in the race long enough to let bad things happen to the less-tested candidates, because he has a tidy $27 million in cash on hand and a deep e-Rolodex of small donors. Also, compared with him, the “less-tested candidates” are all of them: No one has been as recently vetted or run as large of a national campaign as he has, and he’s been rock-solid in debates. (Knowing what you believe and want to do is actually a good way of coming off well in superficial, theatrical situations, it turns out.)

And then, if he won the primary, he’d be running in a general election against Donald Trump—an unpopular president who’s overseeing a shaky economy—as a candidate with a history of appealing to the kind of lower-income, less educated voters that were key to Trump’s win in 2016.

jcitybone

🤮🤮🤮

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/biden-obama-campaign-ad-883587/

Most of Biden’s displays of reverence to the 44th president came when he had a commanding lead in the polls. Ahead of the third debate, however, Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are well within striking distance of the longtime frontrunner. The Biden campaign responded on Thursday by dipping into its emergency reserves of Obama nostalgia, releasing a new, minute-long campaign ad in which Biden praises the former president before reminding Americans that it is the “Obama-Biden” legacy they should be so proud of.

“We should step back and say something we don’t often say enough as a party or as a nation: Barack Obama is an extraordinary man,” Biden says in the ad, speaking to a campaign-trail audience as images of Obama Ken-Burns-effect across the screen. The crowd roars. “I watched up close,” Biden continues. “He has character, courage, and vision. He was a president our children could and did look up to. He was a great president.”

The ad has a not-so-sub subcontext: It’s a broadside against the progressive candidates who have at times explicitly or implicitly criticized the former president’s record as they push the party to the left. Warren and Sanders have both pushed for legislation that would replace the Affordable Care Act’s coverage system with universal coverage, and candidates across the field have vowed to cut back on some of the anti-undocumented immigration measures — namely, various types of deportation — that the 44th president oversaw.

One could argue that initiatives such as expanding the social safety net and embracing multiculturalism are a continuation, or even expansion of Obama’s legacy — albeit one that charts a somewhat different course. After the second debate, however, many centrist Democrats were livid after Obama was repeatedly criticized, and Biden’s new ad appears, in part, an attempt to tap into that vein.

But that’s all the subtext, a bit of inside baseball for hard-core partisans and party poo-bahs. And there’s nothing subtle about the ad’s headline: Obama was great, and Biden was there for the greatness.

We’re convinced. #Obama2020.

polarbear4

#Obama2020. UGH.

jcitybone

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Great clip with Oz!

polarbear4

wow. entitled. check.

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