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jcitybone

Well Bernie and Warren supporters can agree that most Dem senators leave much to be desired.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/461866-democratic-senators-quietly-hope-biden-wins-over-rivals

Yet a number of Democrats privately acknowledge that if Warren or Sanders wins the nomination, it will create immediate tension within the party.

The two progressives are to the left of many of their colleagues, and some of their best-known proposals, such as “Medicare for All” and free college education, do not have widespread support within the Democratic caucus.

If Warren or Sanders wins the party’s presidential nomination, there will be pressure in the Senate to adopt their proposals. And there could be tensions between a nominee and senators who do not back their proposals.

Another factor is the race for the Senate. Some Democrats think it will be easier to win races in conservative-leaning states such as Alabama, North Carolina and Georgia if Biden is their nominee and not Warren or Sanders.

One Democratic senator who requested anonymity to discuss the race said a number of senators neutral in the race are more aligned with Biden.

“Ideologically, they’re definitely more with Biden,” said the Democratic senator, who described colleagues as having doubts about Warren’s and Sanders’s boldest proposals.

“Medicare for All, the Green New Deal, the wealth tax — the list is long,” the senator said.

A second Democratic senator who requested anonymity predicted that if Warren or Sanders is elected president, they will likely face opposition from fellow Democrats to some of their biggest proposals.

“The senators have a great confidence in their own ability with a friendly White House to say, ‘We like a lot of that, but we don’t like all of it,’ ” the senator said. “We’re not going to just do what they ask because they ask.”

Don midwest
Don midwest

“I am going to primary them”

Bernie in an interview with the co founder of The Young Turks asked about supporting primary to members of The Party who are not with the program …

So, their support of Biden is the bid to save their own ass

Interesting to look beyond the visible leadership to the rot throughout The Party

jcitybone

https://theweek.com/articles/865467/democratic-party-suffused-wretched-cowardice

There’s just one problem: Great swathes of the Democratic structure are permeated to their very marrow with moral rot and cowardice, unwilling to do anything but the most superficial acts to check the GOP — and indeed often conspiring with them to preserve Republican dominance, as Democrats in the North Carolina state legislature did Monday.

If America is to be purged of the Republican Party’s lawlessness and corruption, only somewhat less serious problems in the Democratic Party must also be rooted out first.

polarbear4
polarbear4

that’s the trouble with blue no matter who. We now have a majority of Republicans pretending to be Democrats. Seen as normal.

polarbear4
polarbear4

these writers need to educate themselves. Warren is NOT for M4A.

jcitybone

Really how so? She may not be the most effective vehicle for M4A, but she clearly said that she stands with Bernie on M4A. Biden and his Senate pals clearly believe she is for M4A.

humphrey

She hides behind Bernie and is wishy washy in her response.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/461931-colbert-presses-warren-on-middle-class-tax-hike-you-might-want-to-defend-the

Stephen Colbert pressed Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) during CBS’s “Late Show” Tuesday night on whether the Democratic presidential hopeful would raise taxes on the middle class if she were to win the White House.

“You keep being asked in the debates how are you going to pay for it. Are you going to be raising the middle-class taxes?” Colbert asked. “How are you going to pay for it? Are you going to be raising the middle-class taxes?”

“So, here’s how we’re going to do this. Costs are going to go up for the wealthiest Americans, for big corporations,” Warren replied. “And hard-working middle-class families are going to see their costs going down.”

“But will their taxes go up?” Colbert asked again.

“But here’s the thing,” Warren said.

“But here’s the thing,” an amused Colbert retorted. “I’ve listened to these answers a few times before and I just want to make a parallel suggestion to you that you might defend the taxes perhaps that you’re not mentioning in your sentence.”

“Isn’t ‘Medicare for All’ like public school?” he continued rhetorically, pointing to the health care proposal advocated by progressives in the Democratic race such as Warren and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

“There might be taxes for it, but you certainly save a lot of money sending your kids to school, and do you want to live in a world where your kids aren’t educated? Do you want to live in a world where your fellow citizens are dying, even if it costs a little bit of money?” Colbert added.

jcitybone

Yes not as good as Bernie. That is one reason I support him. But she has said she supports M4A and getting rid of private insurance. She probably would be quicker to compromise, but Bernie is going to have to compromise as long as we have the Republican Party and the moderate Dems, none of whom are going away in the foreseeable future, certainly not under President Sanders or President Warren. It’s a long-term project.

polarbear4
polarbear4

sorry i was gone. she is basically for a phase in, a long phase in, which would leave insurance companies intact, who knows how many and for how long – – she’s not saying. On the one hand, it’s great that she’s joining Bernie in her words, on the other, she totally scares me in that she will be another Obama.

polarbear4
polarbear4

why not just support Bernie’s bill, then? her daughter apparently makes good $ from her affiliation with United Health and their bad Medicare advantage plan. i wish i felt differently.

She wants the populace to believe that she is all in for Medicare for all because she knows it will help get her elected.

wi61

PB your last sentence cuts thru the BS. A false female version of Bernie. even uses his catch phrases. But if she would win, I think she would resort to keeping her donors happy and forget what she campaigned on. So no I don’t trust her at this point. Colbert did bring up her being an R in 96 but not much of an answer from her.

orlbucfan

She is the Second Coming of $hrill–no thanks!

polarbear4
polarbear4

orlbucfan

She’s pretty wishy-washy about it.

la58

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/09/18/biden-taking-iraq-lies-to-the-max/

Presidential candidate Joe Biden is adding lies on top of lies to cover up his backing of the Iraq invasion.

At last week’s ABC/DNC debate Biden lied about his Iraq record, just as he did during the first two debates.

In the July debate, Biden claimed: “From the moment ‘shock and awe’ started, from that moment, I was opposed to the effort, and I was outspoken as much as anyone at all in the Congress.”

When he first said that, Mideast scholar Stephen Zunes’s piece “Biden Is Doubling Down on Iraq War Lies,” offered a rare rebuttal. Zunes outlined much of Biden’s record, including his insistence in May 2003 — months after the Iraq invasion — that “There was sufficient evidence to go into Iraq.”

Don midwest
Don midwest

Has he learned a trick from Trump?

Lies don’t matter.

Or do they?

Political speech so far out of wack, MSM can’t tell the difference between matter and anti-matter

Don midwest
Don midwest

David Solnit and The Arts of Change.

There was an article yesterday by him in CommonDreams.org

Climate Strikes to the Green New Deal: Arts Organizing to Protect the Planet
“We need more than dire warnings about the future. We need artists to create images of the better and more beautiful world we want to build

I thought I remembered his name. From an interview with the title in bold at the top, “David Solnit and The Arts of Change”

David Solnit is that kind of behind-the-scenes person who’s been involved with most mass mobilizations in the United States in the last 25 years. Though you might not know his name, you’ve probably seen his work. To many, he is an unassuming guy known for making large puppets. While there have been many other radical artists over the years, Solnit has been instrumental in popularizing the use of giant puppets in mass demonstrations since the 1990s. Naomi Klein calls him “the man.” Mother Jones Magazine profiled him in 2005 (link).

not that obvious when this interview was published

From his experience organizing in social change movements since the ‘80s, Solnit, now 45, brings to bear a wealth of knowledge and skills. His work focuses primarily on anti-war and anti-globalization organizing. He regularly gives workshops on strategic organizing and direct action (and of course, making puppets and other art). He incorporates elements of art and theater into everything he does, working with diverse groups and movements like the Coalition of Immokolee Workers, School of the Americas Watch, and the anti-nuclear movement.

Solnit was a main organizer in the WTO protests in Seattle in 1999 and in the shutdown of San Francisco the day after Iraq was invaded in 2003. Currently he is supporting GI resisters through an organization called Courage to Resist (link).

The link to the interview

David Solnit and The Arts of Change.

In his bio from the common dreams article we find his current role(there probably are others)

David Solnit is the North American Arts Organizer for 350.org and is the co-author of The Battle of the Story of the Battle of Seattle.

Here are the last two paragraphs of the article in common dreams

At its most powerful, the Green New Deal is a practical, positive vision of a better world that we can unite our communities around. Molly Crabapple writes, “We need more than dire warnings about the future. We need artists to create images of the better and more beautiful world we want to build.”

Isaac Murdoch, whose Thunderbird Woman and other designs have been carried into action at Standing Rock and across North American Indigenous and climate fights, writes, “It is with great respect and dignity as artists that we share our visions and hearts to the world. The power of uniting people through art for change is no doubt one of the most important acts on the planet.

Don midwest
Don midwest

When push comes to shove

Or, in modern terms, when deny leads to prepare

There was a global climate map the other day that ranked countries by their contribution to climate change. The scale was 1 to 4 with 4 being the highest. The good old USA was at level 3 along with other industrial countries. There was only one country in the world with a score of 4, the worst polluter has to prepare for the worst. Here is an article about them.

SAUDI ARABIA DENIES ITS KEY ROLE IN CLIMATE CHANGE EVEN AS IT PREPARES FOR THE WORST

ANYONE WHO WAS still questioning whether climate change can exacerbate violent international conflicts has only to look at Saudi Arabia, where drones struck oil installations in the eastern part of the country on September 14. While the Trump administration is blaming Iran, Houthis in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attack on Saudi Aramco, the state-owned oil company, which is both the source of the kingdom’s vast wealth and, as the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, one of the primary drivers of the climate emergency making life increasingly difficult throughout the region.

Rising temperatures have exacerbated water shortages in Yemen, where some 19 million people already lacked access to clean water and sanitation due to mismanagement and drought. Saudis have weaponized this water scarcity in their war in Yemen, targeting areas for their proximity to fertile land and destroying water infrastructure.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia is also facing some of the worst risks from soaring temperatures. This summer, the temperature in Al Majmaah, a city in central Saudi Arabia, reached 131 degrees Fahrenheit, while rapid desertification was reported throughout the Arabian peninsula.

magsview

131 degrees, I’m not sure that our bodies are equipped for that.

Don midwest
Don midwest

Climate will be the major issue in 2020 elections, my prediction

I have felt for some time that climate would be the major issue in politics, but the article today by Tom in TomDispatch makes the point that the summer of 2019 is the first time that the entire globe was aware of climate change. The timing of Greta and the Green New Deal will be enormous. (Get ye to a demonstration on Friday!)

The second new point to me was the age of fire. We have just had the geologist call our age the Anthropocene, a new era, and right on its heels is a new term

age of fire, or PYROCENE

In a remarkable recent article, Stephen Pyne, historian of fire, offered a vision of what’s happening as humans, a “keystone species for fire,” essentially toast the planet. Historically speaking, as he points out, the crucial development was that, with the industrial revolution, humans turned

“from burning living landscapes to burning lithic ones in the form of fossil fuels. That is the Big Burn of today, acting as a performance enhancer on all aspects of fire’s global presence. So vast is the magnitude of these changes that we might rightly speak of a coming Fire Age equivalent in stature to the Ice Ages of the Pleistocene. Call it the Pyrocene.”

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176605/tomgram%3A_engelhardt%2C_pyromaniacs%2C_inc./#more

humphrey

This pretty well sums up my thoughts on Nate Silver.

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