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wi62

hell yes

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polarbear4

Not sure if this has been posted already somewhere, but thought it worthy, as WaPo calls for “prosecution of its own source,” Edward Snowden.

Speaking of the MIC and media, I realized that I cannot stomach the “new” Hawaii 5 O on Netflix, although I like several of the actors. The first episode of their latest season, and they proclaimed how drones are defending America, and a terrorist that is “droning” the citizens is not very subtly described in the ways that many described Snowden. I turned if off and am giving it 2 stars, because of a couple of the actors, especially Jorge Garcia and the young woman.

magsview

re: Snowden

re: Hawaii Five-O

Whoa, Pentagon Influences TV Shows Like ‘American Idol’? New Documents Show Scary Collaboration
The military is everywhere in our arts and entertainment looking for a way to promote its public relations agenda.

The sheer scale of the Army and the Air Force’s involvement in TV shows, particularly reality TV shows, is the most remarkable thing about these files. “American Idol,” “The X-Factor,” “Masterchef,” “Cupcake Wars,” numerous Oprah Winfrey shows, “Ice Road Truckers,” “Battlefield Priests,” “America’s Got Talent,” “Hawaii Five-O,” lots of BBC, History Channel and National Geographic documentaries, “War Dogs,” “Big Kitchens” — the list is almost endless. Alongside these shows are blockbuster movies like Godzilla, Transformers, Aloha and Superman: Man of Steel.

polarbear4

Thanks, mags! knew something was up. 😉

grapevines

“Cupcake Wars”

I’m trying to imagine 2 dozen cupcakes with marzipan green Sherman Tanks and camouflaged Bradley Fighting vehicles on them for my grand daughter’s 5th birthday party…just seems so WRONG 🙁

grapevines

Black men take action in Chicago…when city government doesn’t do anything(you hear this Mayor Rahm Emanuel?)
https://youtu.be/kKjCYs30Vrc
community organization and action…love it!

Eileen R
Eileen R

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grapevines

humm..sorry about that..just click on the message and it’ll take you to the video.
@EileenR

magsview

That’s awesome @grapevines! Thanks.

NVPainter

I love it too! All success to them!

grapevines

….they’re “tellin’ it like it is”. They sound so fed up with inept government agencies and do nothing programs.

NVPainter

Especially the ones that leave them out… the neighbors! They’re supposed to be the “stakeholders,” after all….

trubludude
trubludude

Can any one post the listing of items in this article? Neither of my two browsers seems to support it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-hillary-clinton-lost_us_57dc4bece4b04a1497b491b6?section=&

Thanks everyone!

la58

RANK REASON

1
THE MEDIA
Everyone’s piñata. Trump will blame the media. Gary Johnson will blame the media. Jill Stein will blame the media. (The media will ask, “Wait, which one was Jill Stein?”)

2
THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING
Actually, they arrived long ago and got into her phone.

3
MILLENNIALS
Ugh. F**cking idealists, right?

4
BERNIE SANDERS
Remember when people worried that running unopposed in the primary would hurt Clinton? It’s going to be an endless wail about how Sanders should have withdrawn sooner.

5
BILL CLINTON
You know how this will go down: Best campaigner of all time and he couldn’t close the sale. He lost his mojo.

6
SEXISTS
Ugh. F**cking glass ceiling.

7
OBAMA PEOPLE
If they could delete all of David Axelrod’s tweets, they would.

8
JAMES COMEY
He might as well have indicted her for real, like he did in the court of public opinion. Extremely careless.

9
DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ AND THE DNC
Her Soviet-style approach to boosting Clinton was something that Hillary’s campaign was happy to countenance. But the former DNC chairshould have left room for dissent rather than let it bottle up.

trubludude
trubludude

Thanks la58!

grapevines

10
FLAWED
She encouraged “low” information young people too look at her record.
The internet never forgets..no matter how much cleansing powder you scrub it with while paying for so many too “Correct the Record”.

la58

You beat me to it, the comments are worth reading for the entertainment.

polarbear4
magsview

G’day friends!

Not sure if Bill helped Hillary out with this NPR interview:

Bill Clinton: ‘It’s Hard’ To Think About Leaving Foundation

Bill Clinton says that out of the hundreds of thousands of donors to the Clinton Foundation over the past 18 years, there must have been some people who gave to the foundation to gain influence with him and his wife.

But the former president told NPR that doesn’t mean any donors received anything improperly.

“It was natural for people who’ve been our political allies and personal friends to call and ask for things. And I trusted the State Department wouldn’t do anything they shouldn’t do,” Clinton told Steve Inskeep

This week’s CGI meeting is the final one because of efforts to prevent further concerns about conflicts of interest between the work of the Clinton family’s private charitable enterprises and Hillary Clinton’s potential work as the next president of the United States.

Indicative of the lack of trust I have for this family, when I read that Bill said, “nobody in my family ever took a penny out of this foundation”, my first thought was, well yah, maybe nobody took “a penny” out, but I bet they took ‘lots’ of pennies! Haha, seriously, I found myself parsing his words.

“And, you know, we always say in response to our critics that nobody in my family ever took a penny out of this foundation and put millions of dollars in. But I would have paid more to do this job. It was the most fun thing I’ve ever done.”

(all bolding my emphasis)

Why couldn’t he just say that they’d donated “millions of dollars” instead? I mean, wasn’t that all tax-deductible? So how does he figure that he “paid” to do the “job” at CF? Not being compensated is ‘paying’ to do it? I find the way he words things to be deceptive. Just because he “trusted” that the State Dept. “wouldn’t do anything they shouldn’t do”, doesn’t actually mean that they didn’t do anything they shouldn’t have done, right?

polarbear4

jes trust us. aren’t those the last words of scoundrels since humankind began? why the heck are we so trusting?

grapevines

NAFTA NAFTA NAFTA

Don midwest
Don midwest
NVPainter

I took notes to sum up some of the content for anyone who doesn’t have enough time to listen to this (though if you’re concerned about election fraud, I’d highly recommend listening):

Dan Rolle talks about:

▪ How a member of Harry Reid’s staff told him not to run for Congress, because everyone has dirt, and they’d dig up whatever dirt on him they could find (he was running against Reid’s endorsed candidate), and they’d destroy him
▪ How Big Data works and what is NGPVan
▪ How each of us is being tracked by NGPVan
▪ How the Democratic Party used NGPVan to steal the election in Nevada
▪ How the Nevada caucus election results were announced before the votes were counted
▪ How 70% of new voters in Nevada were going to vote for Bernie
▪ How the chairs-being-thrown was a distraction, used to cover up the non-counting of the votes

Thank you for sharing, Don midwest and CA Democrat.

magsview

Thank you, jbob, for putting up an open thread!

This is my nomination for Best Tweet of the Day:

https://twitter.com/SavionWright/status/777684766908747776

NVPainter

Boy, I sure wish we could!!!!

humphrey

I guess that they are just warming up for the debate.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296602-clinton-trump-inspiring-terrorism

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton early Monday accused Donald Trump of inspiring acts of terrorism through his rhetoric, saying her GOP rival is turning the fight against terror into a religious war with Islam that threatens U.S. safety.

Speaking at a press conference to address the blasts in the New York area over the weekend, Clinton was asked whether sympathizers of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) are looking to sow chaos that might influence the presidential campaign.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296614-trump-campaign-clinton-presidency-would-bring-more

Donald Trump’s campaign said Monday that Hillary Clinton’s accusations that the Republican presidential nominee has inspired terrorism through his rhetoric are “beyond the pale.”

“It’s also an attempt to distract from her horrible record on ISIS. If Clinton really wants to find the real cause of ISIS, she needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror,” senior Trump adviser Jason Miller said in a statement, referring to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

magsview

Bridgegate prosecutors: Wildstein to testify he told Christie of lane closings

NEWARK — In opening arguments in the criminal trial of the George Washington Bridge lane closure scandal, federal prosecutors said Monday morning that David Wildstein would testify that he told Gov. Chris Christie about the scheme to close lanes at the bridge at the very moment traffic was at a standstill in Fort Lee.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Vikas Khanna said Wildstein will testify that he and defendant Bill Baroni made Christie aware of the plan in September 2013.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/09/bridgegate_trial_starts.html

https://twitter.com/AndreaWNYC/status/777908327615303680

Ah, New Jersey politics…

Most Likely to Destroy a Governor
Will David Wildstein, star witness in the Bridgegate trial, take down his old high-school classmate Chris Christie?

This is a tale of New Jersey politics. So it is only fitting that it begins — as it will end — in a courtroom.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/david-wildstein-chris-christie-bridgegate-trial.html

humphrey

Is Bernie helping or hurting the momentum that he built up during the primary?

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/bernie-sanders-ohio-hillary-clinton-2016-214259

KENT, OHIO—A lonely Hillary supporter stood with a sign outside the rec center at Kent State University on Saturday, a gray and muggy afternoon for a rally. “INSECURE, SMALL PENISED WHITE GUYS FOR TRUMP!!!” his sign read. Near him, grizzled men in fatigues and sunglasses and a fraternity brother held pro-Trump signs. But the main swirl of activity ahead of Bernie Sanders’ speech in this Ohio college town was the dozen fervent Jill Stein supporters, formerly fervent Bernie supporters, holding signs and signing up volunteers. “We have a better choice,” one sign—puffy paint on rumpled printer paper—said.
“The two-party system is messed uuuup!” sang Patty Friedrich, a local Green Party organizer, as she pranced around, handing out fliers to people going to the rally. “Embrace the suuuuuck!”

After a rally in Akron, Bernie Sanders had arrived in Kent on a mission that might be critical to the election: coaxing disaffected Ohioans not just to vote, but to vote for the woman whom he’d been calling corrupt just a few months ago. With Donald Trump moving up in the polls—and even, according to some polls, leading in this crucial swing state—the Clinton campaign sent in the reinforcements: Bernie Sanders. Hillary for America, which organized the event, was evidently hoping that Sanders, with his anti-establishment appeal and image of fiery authenticity, could bring his herd—and maybe a few stragglers—more securely into the fold. But it was not clear how well it was working: Nye had internalized Bernie’s message so fully that she had decided to vote for Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate.

jcitybone

Any Bernie supporters that Bernie convinces to vote for Clinton instead of one of the alternatives will be a plus for her in this increasingly tight election. The students below are examples of where he might be helpful.

From the Politico article above

Nearby, three young female students, two of them black, told me they had voted for Bernie but were willing to support Hillary in order to keep Trump from being elected—which, one of them laughed, would usher in “World War 17.” They weren’t huge fans of Hillary and her “sketchy” history, but they understood the stakes and Sanders’s lobbying for her was compelling. “Bernie’s supporting her,” Kelyanne, a junior, said, “so there must be a side of her that’s good that we just don’t see.”

grapevines

Millennials didn't "cool" on #Hillary; they never liked her. They told you all along #BernieOrBust. You chose bust.https://t.co/iP0xWMlac0

— Bernie Wan Kenobi (@Old_Bern_Kenobi) September 17, 2016

Benny

Goes back to the S&*t sandwich. They don’t find it appealing.

Bernie is more or less suggesting to take the terrible cough medicine that may or may not benefit them but is “supposed to be good for you”.

magsview

I don’t know about Bernie helping, humphrey, but I’m willing to bet that if this was widely known that it wouldn’t help much at all:

Kaine will then have lunch at the Atherton home of Jillian Manus, an event co-hosted by Meg Whitman, the chief executive of Hewlett-Packard Enterprise and a staunch Republican.

Is the Dem party that hard up for $$$??

In case you are not familiar with Jillian Manus, she is (normally) a Republican donor who is notorious for her parties. She even had a live (Republican) elephant at one of her charity balls.

Philanthropist Jillian Manus’ parties are the toast of Silicon Valley

Benny

This is one of my primary complaints about HC/TK. They are obsessed with money. I know data analytics aren’t cheap nor is polling, but it’s ridiculous. I’m convinced this is what is turning Berniecrats off.

NVPainter

It is certainly one of the reasons they won’t see a dime from me!

magsview

Weapons Makers Hold Lavish Lovefest for Pentagon Official Who Manages Arms Sales

Here’s what passes for funny in a room packed full of weapons-industry executives and lobbyists: When Vice Adm. Joseph Rixey — the man in charge of the Pentagon agency that administers foreign arms sales — said “I know you don’t go after human rights violators for potential customers.”

The line produced chuckles in the room.

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/19/weapons-makers-hold-lavish-lovefest-for-pentagon-official-who-manages-arms-sales/

Gross. I’m grateful for the work The Intercept does to keep it real.

magsview

Will Trump’s hate campaign help Clinton win over millennials?

Hillary Clinton has a problem with millennials, and she tried to address that today with a big speech in Philadelphia that spelled out her differences with Donald Trump over college debt, the minimum wage, equal pay, climate change, and so forth. But one notable bit came when she appealed to millennials voters by invoking Trump’s bigotry and campaign of hate, and argued that for this reason, this election really is far more important than previous ones.

It drew sustained cheers and applause from her audience:

“This time is different. We’re facing a candidate with a long history of racial discrimination in his businesses. Who re-tweets white supremacists. Who led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president, and is still lying about it today. He refuses to apologize to President Obama, his family, and the American people. We have to stand up to this hate. We cannot let it go on.”

It’s hard to say how far this will go in fixing Clinton’s problem with young voters. If there’s one thing we do know at this point, it’s that these young voters already see Trump as a bigot, but that this isn’t enough to get them to support Clinton in the numbers she needs. She will presumably do more in coming days to connect her critique of Trump’s racist and xenophobic campaign to the policy debate, by talking about her own policy proposals on issues such as immigration, environmental racism, and criminal justice reform. Meanwhile, some Democratic strategists point out that Clinton is struggling with these voters in part because of how they perceive her — that is, as untrustworthy and unprincipled. She’ll have to do more to address that, too.

But if one of the problems here is that younger voters don’t grasp the stakes of this election, reminding them that is is in part a referendum on whether the country will reject Trump’s racism, white nationalism, and years-long campaign to delegitimize the first African American president might help drive those stakes home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/19/will-trumps-hate-campaign-help-clinton-win-over-millennials/?utm_term=.57756ec3be25#comments

humphrey

Hillary has a big problem with millennials (especially those who paid attention during the primary). Her rhetoric today does not jive with what she said during the primary.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-millennials-young-voters-228361

Embracing her inner policy wonk Clinton asked young voters to give her candidacy a chance. “I spend a lot of time on the details of policy, like the precise interest rate on your student loan — right down to the decimal,” she said during a rally at Temple University in Philadelphia.

That sure will dazzle them! Good grief!

“I need you as partners not just for winning this election, but the fights ahead of us over the next eight years,” she said. “That’s why if I’m in the White House young people will always have a seat at any table where a decision is being made.”

Ha! I can just imagine the millennials chatting with all the banksters that are present.

grapevines

“That’s why if I’m in the White House young people will always have a seat at any table where a decision is being made.”

didn’t she say the same thing too the American Indian tribes during the primary campaign?
Looks like she’s kicked them UNDER the table already

Benny

Related, she’s not talked about issues they care about, such as climate change. Instead, it’s all business as usual and “Trump is worse.”

wi62

The banksters would remind them not to be late with their student loan payment

jcitybone

Clinton’s problem is not that she is not winning the majority of millennial vote–she’s just not winning them by enough, compared to how Obama did with them. For example, in the latest Fox general election poll from last week (which had Clinton up a point 41-40), Clinton was leading Trump among millennials 38-33, but 16% support Johnson and 8% support Stein–both figures way larger than for other age groups. (In this poll, Clinton was doing the worst among the Gen X 35-54 group, losing 37-44.)

Bernie’s mission for the Dems is to try to peel these millennial voters away from the third-party candidate and into the Clinton column.

magsview

Adding to my first comment about Hillary’s visit to Temple U….. first of all, now I’m reading that there were only 250 students there. Then there’s this:

At the invitation-only event at the Great Court at Mitten Hall, she said she needs to do more to get millennials on board.

Whaaat?? Invitation only? Is that why there were “sustained cheers and applause” during her comments about Trump? Plz forgive me for being cynical.

There’s a decent video of some student reactions here.

humphrey

LOL! I just have to throw this video in here for comparison sake.

http://6abc.com/politics/video-huge-line-for-sanders-rally-at-temple/1280534/

The line of supporters waiting to get in to the rally, scheduled for 8 p.m. Wednesday, wrapped around the building and stretched nearly a mile long and a number of people wide.

NVPainter

When I saw Bernie in Sacramento, CA, I stood in line for over two hours, and the line was at least a mile long and eight to ten people wide!