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Star Strider

This is more appropriate here than where I just posted it, so I apologise for the cross-post.

Just now listening to PBS Newshour. The reason she-who-must-not-be-named didn’t violate the law, is that the law — The Espionage Act of 1917 — hasn’t been updated to include email or other electronic communications! (These have only been commonplace for the last 20+ years, so it is much too soon to expect a do-nothing Congress to have acted.) It was written to cover hardcopy material only.

With respect to the email server, as I understand the discussion, it would have to be demonstrated that there was an actual transfer of classified information to someone who did not have permission to have it. So unless some person or organisation that is not supposed to have access to the classified information on the server comes forward saying they have it and got it from the server, there is unfortunately no criminal act. Don’t count on that, for the simple reason that no one ever describes how they got information they shouldn’t have. That reveals to the target information about the capabilities of the intruder. That is not in the best interests of the intruder.

If Congress had updated the law several years ago, she-who-must-not-be-named would be facing serious charges, and probably prison. There is nevertheless a double standard, and the wealthy and well-connected get off, and the rest of us get prosecuted, for the same actions.

We can only hope that the Repugs keep digging until they find something substantial. Like Fleur de Lisa, I never thought I would be in sympathy with them.


ughhhh… this sucks. It’s not like I wanted Hillary to face jail time, but are there no ramifications? At the very least, it seems her security clearance should have been taken away. Instead, she gets to run for President of the United States?!


Nope. It’s a done deal. Over.

This is an intent specific crime so that was her saving grace. They cannot prove intent in her case. With Patreaus, they were able to because he admitted that he knew info was classified when he gave it to his mistress.

I know that this was a last hope for some, I even had a small glimmer of hope over it although I had been saying for some time, the fix was in she was not going to be charged. But there is nothing more that can be done about this now.


Ah, but the damage is also done. The Republicans now have all the ammo in the world to use against her, and THEY WILL. She is going down in flames, and taking the party with her.

Star Strider

Administrative sanctions — such as restricting her access to classified material — are possibly an option, but I doubt anyone in the current administration would act on them.

I wouldn’t mind her being sentenced to at least some prison time, although it would probably be commuted so she’d never actually have to serve it.

That she gets to run doesn’t mean that she gets to win! She has a substantial fraction of her own party against her, and I would be surprised if she didn’t lose a significant fraction of the independent vote with the FBI findings.


Well, it could definitely help consolidate against her that Republican vote that she’s hoping to win over.


Like a stopped clock, the Repubs/rightwingers are right a couple of times a day. This is one of those times.

Star Strider

The benefit is that the Repugs have the power and resources we don’t to make the life of she-who-must-not-be-named truly miserable and possibly force her to withdraw. We have to count on them to do what we can’t.

I understand there may be legal problems with respect to the Clinton Foundation, so we’ll have to wait and see what benefits that yields.

This did not do anything positive for she-who-must-not-be-named. I can hardly wait to see the next preference and approval ratings polls. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s significantly behind DJT in the preference poll and her approval rating significantly worse that his.


After having worked as an IT security network professional sub contractor with many DC “alphabet soup” agencies, and branches of military, specifically in the communication protocols of email, secure FAX, copying and printing of all types of documentation of secure and non secure content and composition, I find this entire incident to be disgusting, and shameless.

At least the entire “exercise” of shoring up the security faults, and potential areas of vulnerability within the various Federal client’s environments that I worked with was very lucrative in compensation, but not very satisfying in now learning that it may have been all for naught…..