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magsview

I’m reading reactions on twitter (for better or for worse) and many are concerned about her bleeding some support from Bernie, which is an understandable concern.

But after reading this quote, from the beginning of Warren’s announcement video,

“In our country, if you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to be able to take care of yourself and the people you love”

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/democratic-sen-elizabeth-warren-releases-video-possibility-2020-133705243–abc-news-topstories.html

I tend to agree with this poster,

because that’s the sort of thing I can hear Harris and/or Booker saying. Especially Harris. Not sure about Gillibrand.

Also, a lot of people don’t trust her after she stayed mum on any support for Bernie during 2016 primaries.

magsview

And, sure enough, I’m not the only one who noticed that rhetoric in Warren’s announcement.

I do take issue, though, with Matt trying to say that the way Bernie talks about people who work 40 hours per week (and yet still struggling) is the same as what Warren said.

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1079776939798417409

magsview

I think this comment more or less sums up many people’s (including mine) issue with Warren’s rhetoric:

I think “work hard” is different as it’s a subjective statement. It allows for people to say “oh, they’re just not working hard enough.” Who determines the satisfactory level of effort in someone’s work? It’s a symptom of America’s “life should be grueling” attitude

polarbear4

My thinking exactly. Maybe it’s because I’m older now, but when I hear people say “everyone deserves a chance to work hard and play hard,“ I hear recipe for early aging, addictions, etc.

It would be great if we could figure out a way for everyone to work at something they care about and that is organic to their life, especially with automation on the horizon.

Of course there will always be a way to learn more in advance and to take on jobs that no one else wants perhaps for more

Benny

I think Matt is saying that it is an Establishment phrase, but Bernie phrases it another way.

At this juncture, Yglesias works for an establishment blog and he’s on the progressive side. His voice may aid to keep the dialog open with establishment types.

polarbear4

Agree. I could see Bernie eventually going for a guaranteed income.

TheLeftistheCenter

The impression I got from the twitter progressives was that Warren blew it in 2016 and she is not going to pull much off of Bernie. The general view is if she is the nominee they would happily vote for her, but they aren’t going to help her become that nominee.

She is going to be in that inbetween lane not neolib and not progressive, but she isn’t going to pull much from Bernie but more from those who want a more establishment candidate with a more progressive face

magsview

Esha @eshaLegal from October responding to a now-deleted Matt Yglesias tweet that appears to perhaps have asserted something about there not being “daylight” between Warren and Sanders:

With that said though, Esha went on to share that Warren was her #2 choice. See attached screenshot of that comment.

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polarbear4

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TheLeftistheCenter

What Warren has that no one but Bernie has, is a history of caring, she has shown she isn’t a soulless neo lib and will try to help the people, so if for some reason its not Bernie (say he hypothetically didn’t run) she is the one person people feel wont just ignore them

orlbucfan

Happy New Year’s Eve LD/JD and fellow TPWers! 🙂 Got a text from my millennial friend from Bernie’s campaign. She’s starting to review her campaign notes, etc. She feels he’s going to run. 🙂 Me? I’m still wondering where he hides his youth juice. LOL. I’m wary of any ex-GOPuke so I’m unsure about Warren. I despise the Turd Way/DLCraporate. Hubby has already stated if it’s Gillibrand vs. Orange Moran, he’ll vote for the latter. He hasn’t forgotten Gillibrand ‘s roasting of Al Franken. He accused me of being a “radical” a couple of days ago. I replied if my issues are rad, this country is really drowning in the toilet. 🙁 Anywho, T and R to the usual excellent TPW suspects!!

humphrey

This one comment sez a lot. ? Happy New Year to you and yours,

orlbucfan

Back at you, humphrey. 🙂

humphrey

I am sure that Bernie is keeping a close eye on how her potential campaign evolves.

This is not in a bad way but rather to step up if it appears to be faltering.

polarbear4

Not so sure about Medicare for all. When people press her on it she has been seeing a way to make it affordable and increase the quality, things like that.

Spring Texan

I’m thrilled she’s running. Do I like Bernie better? Sure! Do I hope he runs? Yes! But I think it is very beneficial to have anyone who is not a friend of the plutocrats running in a field where plutocrat-friends will probably predominate. With a dozen ppl in the debates and campaigning, we need to have more than one candidate working on educating ppl – who still many of them don’t get it. And she’s really good at stating clearly the problems with what Wall Street does, and she passionately cares about that. I’ll send her money (and Bernie too of course).

I’m fine if Jeff Merkley runs too. Anyone who has a good message.

The good guys are gonna be outnumbered in the race and we need as MANY non-Wall-Street ppl in that horse race as possible. It’s not sure who will catch on and who won’t but “narrowing the field” is a bad idea.

Now some ppl I’d love it if they would NOT run cuz I have no use for them – e.g. Kamala Harris and (of course) Bloomberg! and a number of others! (including Tulsi Gabbard who has a TON of problems)

But I am doing a happy dance about Eliz Warren even though no she’s not Sanders . . .

She also — like Bernie — is good at having very constructive and creative legislative proposals, e.g. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/17/elizabeth-warren-bill-drug-manufacturing-prices-1067916 (like Bernie she’s serious about drug pricing, also)

The more people we get in the primary who won’t give Wall Street any quarter, the better we can push the Democratic Party toward what it needs to be, a party that opposes plutocrats.

On that topic, I loved this twitter thread:

Spring Texan

Did I like the “work hard and play by the rules” stuff? No. But the rest of the video was REALLY GOOD. And her CFPB record shows she means business about not letting big business rip off people. As Sanders says, their “business model is fraud,” and Warren also is NOT OK with that.

Benny

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orlbucfan

Scott Walker is a dumb FRightwing horse’s arse.

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