Happy Saturday! 1/9/20 Open Thread
With the Capitol riot the Trumpists have become a de facto third party
Wednesday’s invasion of our “temple of democracy” constituted an “insurrection” only in the sense of dark comedy. What was essentially a flag-wrapped biker gang wielding staves stormed America’s ultimate country club, chased senators into the Capitol’s catacombs, squatted on Mike Pence’s throne, trashed Nancy Pelosi’s office, and shot endless selfies to send to the dudes back home in white people’s country. Otherwise, they were clueless and when the serious cops finally arrived, filed out clutching souvenirs to show to Daddy Trump. Monty Python with four dead bodies.
Meanwhile, several hundred evacuated solons sweated together in their hiding place. Some of the Republicans, steadfastly loyal to their death cult, refused the face masks offered by police. One outraged Democrat described it as a “super-spreader event”. Hours later, Representative Jake La Turner, a Trump diehard from Kansas, punctually tested positive for the virus.
Predictably liberal pundits are now telling us that the far right has committed suicide, that the age of Trump has ended, and that the Democrats are free to build their shining city on the hill.
In fact the riot was a deus ex machina that lifted the curse of Trump from the careers of conservative war hawks and rightwing young lions whose higher ambitions have been fettered by the presidential cult.
This take rings true for me. Trumpers aren’t going anywhere in the short term. I’m hearing anecdotal accounts of people signing up for Parler just to show support for Trump.
Josh Hawley Faces Blowback After Capitol Riot
But while Mr. Hawley’s role in the riot may have left him shunned — at least for now — in official circles, it may only have improved his stock with his party’s base in his home state, which remains deeply loyal to Mr. Trump.
Btw, have you noticed that far too many people are throwing the term ‘radical leftists’ out every other sentence these days? I’ve been wondering how we can counteract that nonsense, effectively. Perhaps using humor? I think we need to push back on that. Where’s our Luntz?
I had a great time this morning catching up on last night’s thread (thank you Benny!), you are all wonderful people whom I’ve learned a lot from.
I hope you all have a great day! Please share below.
(Benny or anyone else with the power, can you please edit this post so it shows properly?
The big purge.
Trump fans ditch Twitter en masse after president’s suspension
omg, his Parler handle is ‘snakeoil’. You can’t make this stuff up.
Well a lot of them will come back, At the nut job site their going to their wont be much for them to argue about as they will be in agreement for the most part so they will get board so they’ll come back so they have someone to pick a fight with
Bullies need someone to bully.
ohsnap
Seriously, who really cares?
Apparently the trumpcorp supporters think their going to hurt twitter by leaving. but good for a laugh none the less for me anyway
I’m going to try this, lol.
How to dress yourself happy, one feelgood outfit at a time
I know that I love seeing someone rocking a cheery and/or interesting outfit. It’s time for me to give back a little!
ty mags! i’m glad someone is talking about what a weak group it really was.
and yes, i’m beyond fuming into a kind of existential despair about “radical leftists.” even people who should know better–Seane Corn–“yoga teacher, public speaker, activist”–talk about the Alt-Left (that’s us!) and sez we are just like the Alt Right. I’m in a group of women that i care for and that i don’t want to leave, but Corn is a heroine to many of them. The same ones that are waxing poetic over Obama’s new book. it so disheartens me.
As soon as I hear anyone call us ‘Alt-Left’ and/or claim that those more left than them are the same as the extreme right, I know that they are not someone to take seriously. Every now and then I can’t help myself from asking, “so white supremacists were working to get everyone health care now?”
ikr. but lots of Biden voters believe this and if you figure out a way to move them, please, please let me know! lol
I always thought that that FDR’s 2nd bill of rights + the GND should be the foundation for every one on this planet. With our current technology we can improve the human condition a hell of a lot better than its current condition. Unfortunately way to many humans are fixated with power over others and greed and throw in a heatlhy dose of hatrid towards their fellow man as well. I wont live to see it but i hope that mankind grows up and decides that its more worthwhile to improve the human condition from its current condition which is primitive and savage considering the tech we have to something more civilized. Most will think i’m the extremist one and need the tin foil hat. To me its a major upgrade to the game were currently playing
No, you are my fellow Progressive Futurist as are so many in the Nest. 😊 I know I won’t live long enough to see the change, but my niece and many other young people will. I just hope it will be positive.
With every event like Wed i throw my hands up in disgust, and makes me wonder why are certain humans hell bent on destroying everyone?
“requires truth, reconciliation & repair”
I really have to laugh here. I do NOT use Facebook. I am NOT even registered on Twit(ter). It sure hasn’t affected my quality of life. 😂 What BS!💩
same here , i’m perfectly fine without that in my life
it’s a question of civil rights, tho, too.
More MAGA Blue Lives Matter. Pretty hard to watch
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1347749675777011714?s=20
dam. is he ok?
Maybe ok physically at least.
Boy watching this reminded me of the Camp Randell fan rush back in the early 90’s Bucky had just upset Michigan and fans started rushing the field, Their was a low level fence to get over but due to the slope of the stands and thousands of fans pushing each other towards the field the fans by the small fence were getting crushed by it and 10 fans were found not breathing and had to be revived, thankfully no deaths. Video showed that some were screaming like the guy in the video above until they passed out. The players did thier best to pull people over the fencing to help. The main difference IS that the incident at the game was accidental and poor planning, changes were made fence gone. The coup at the capital was deliberate along with poor planning.
I recall too many horror stories of innocent fans getting crushed by crazed mobs at major sporting and music events. Glad I was never in one, 😟 Scary.😱
I was in a crush at a F1 event once-they closed the paddocks for those of us who’d been lucky to get access and funneled us all through one narrow doorway that quickly became bottlenecked with security pushing us all towards it.
It was in the hot sun and I could feel myself growing faint as I tried to breathe, but made myself laugh about it by lifting my feet up off the ground and, sure enough, remained upright in one place. It’s easy to panic when you can’t breathe.
Two of the worst involved Liverpool
First Amendment protests!
lolol. but of course. he’s a master at being a flim-flam man.
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/washington-dc-riots-trump-news-friday/h_3b3d237d139679d425ef2e0a54ddfca7
Of course, Third Way is against.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/politics/democrats-trump-crimes-prosecute.html
Yes! And a lot of us who lived through the GWB years were really unhappy about that!!
In fact, there’s a case that could be made that, due to no pushback on the GWB/Cheney/Rumsfeld etc war crimes, future presidents felt enabled to do as they wanted.
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Turd Way is NOT moderate. It is craporate Right Wing. So is the editorial board of the NYuckTimes, it seems, anymore.💩🤮
Biden, who ran on unity, now leads a party furious at GOP
Didn’t vote for the semi-senile clown, and glad I didn’t. This kumbaya BS is for the birds. 💩💩🤮🤮
Nor i but as i said last night i hope he’s up for the job. The R’s outdid themselves on the mess they left this time after leaving office
By the looks of his Cabinet I have my doubts that he is calling the shots. He has achieved his lifelong dream of becoming President (after how many futile attempts?) . His teleprompter is calling the shots (scripted by Clinton and Obama surrogates) and he is happy with his ice cream.
With so many whistleblowers getting squashed, how will we learn who is calling the shots?
You may recall that we learned about who ‘called the shots’ re: Obama’s cabinet via Wikileaks:
indeed. scary the power we are giving to corporations via big tech. we all saw it coming.
The turtle even though in the minority is gonna still be the turtle and obstruct all he can
Yea the R’s have 2 parties now , one is softer than Charmin compared to the Trumpcorp cult. I dont know what Pence is thinking after trumpcorp unleashed his goons on him. for Christ sakes his goons erected a gallows and were chanting hang Pence .After that he has no spine to invoke the 25th sec 4? His goons threatened the life of a sitting vice president during the attempted coup. Their may have been turtle soup on the menu if they found him as well.
“turtle soup” lmao
T and R, mags!! ☮️😊👍 I am beyond disgust. I am very angry. I am sick and tired of feeling like a yahoo cos I am an American. That has gone on for decades. So, now we are radical leftists, and all the destruction the FRightwingnut assholes, the FRight business cretins who control them (and the Religious Right suckers) get away with their sh1t yet again. I doubt I will live long enough to see these yahoos get what they justly deserve. End of rant. Whew! 😊
I hear ya. I am beyond angry at this point. They say that yahoo from Arkansas that sat at Pelosi’s desk may get a year. A year! For stealing mail, trashing the place and breaking and entering. And yet, the 3 activist women in Aurora, CO, are looking at 8 years for a peaceful demonstration at the police station protesting the murder of Elijah McClain.
Protesting a pipeline is now a felony. They can throw anything at BLM, water protectors, environmentalists, etc. And the Chicago Police Union boss is all good with the insurrection. Jesus H. Christ. Where are we going???
In Capital, a G.O.P. Crisis. At the R.N.C. Meeting, a Trump Celebration.
Will a tug of war develop between the establishement neocons vs. the Trump family?
Republicans who are now seeing the light.🤔🙄
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Juan Cole
Future careers as well, Working for the WH under a normal administration was a perk on the resume. With the Trumpcorp admin not so much. It will be interesting to see where McEnany ends up? She wont be hurting for money due to hubby but will want to do something?
I wonder if he was allowed to bring it on the flight home?
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/533467-man-spotted-carrying-speakers-lectern-arrested-in-florida
Mitch McConnell outlines what a second Trump impeachment trial might look like
It pains me to quote Adam Schiff, but here goes:
There will be no Article 25.
There will be no successful Impeachment.
Doubtful that Trump will resign.
More possible is that he’ll retreat to FL by Thursday or Friday January 16. The White House hangers on are either resigning one by one or staying home, claiming illness or whatever.
Trump needs an audience to witness him “winning.” If all that is visible to him is evidence of losing, I think he’ll opt for the sunnier more private environment Mas-a-Lago offers.
I agree NYCVG. See my post about Nick Kent. Trump craves an audience, but only an adoring one.
Yep like every other two bit dictator
At least the military will keep the “football” out of harms way. There are 3 of active ones, 2 will be at the inauguration while trumpcorp has the other. Trumpcorps will go dead a few minutes after noon no matter where he is. So that leaves EXO’s that can be undone. That leaves pardons he can do some damage their.
He’s already stirred up trouble with his rich neighbors down there. There’s a fight brewing over how long he can hang out at Mar whatever. They do not want the crowds, the noise, the security headaches, etc. Maralago is a club, not a permanent residence. tRump will have to go to war with his rich neighbors to get the zoning changed. And, after this latest BS of his in DC, those rich whatevers are girding their loins for battle.
From what i read they want nothing to do with having Trumpcorp in the neighborhood.
Ole semi-senile Byedone, he never disappoints. 💩
yeah, i’m not in a fever over impeachment. i was just more happy that they just didn’t completely fold. would have made more of an impact if they had stayed in session. but whadoiknow
Impeachment can conclude after he is already out, but would preclude him running again in 2024, should he want to. If he is impeached AFTER his time runs out, he can’t pardon himself, either. I think they should do it.