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polarbear4

Wow! Thanks and well said.

phatkhat

OMG! Fantastic. Standing ovation! Best essay I’ve read in quite a while, and captures the mood of so many of us perfectly! Thanks for writing this, and I hope it is WIDELY read.

wi62

Ill just add ENCORE!!!

Kim Tait
Kim Tait

I read it and it is pretty much how I feel as well.

eve

Yes, Hillary comes with deception built in. Thanks for helping me feel good about voting Green in November.

Star Strider

I’ve always felt good about voting Green, 1996-2008.

I wish I’d done the same in 2012, but I regrettably felt sorry for Obummer and his numerous screw-ups, and wanted to give him an opportunity to correct them. He unfortunately just chose to exacerbated them, particularly with the TPP. Never again. If politicians screw up, they don’t deserve my sympathy.

Flourishing Of Years
Flourishing Of Years

You talk about avoiding deception, and yet Jill Stein courts anti vaxers.

phatkhat

No, she does not. This is a Clinton scare-mongering story that has entirely too much traction.

What she said – and I’ll agree she was too wordy – was that the AMERICAN PEOPLE do not trust the FDA and other agencies, because too often they are staffed with former lobbyists for big Pharma and big Ag.

She agrees with universal vaccination, but also says that the government mandating it seems to be backfiring, and we need to look at other countries to see how they are able to have nearly 100% vaccination rates (medical exemptions are in place) voluntarily.

She in no way is agreeing with the anti-vaxxers about autism, or any other BS.

Jo Crain
Jo Crain

She is a doctor. You must be kin to Karl tb Rove. Hitting her strengths. Such a horrible smear.

Star Strider

Jill Stein, M.D. is a Harvard-educated primary care physician! (I am a retired physician Board Certified in Internal Medicine.)

Clinton is an incompetent and unqualified former government official with no medical training who at the very least seriously mishandled classified information.

All medications — including immunizations — must be individualized to the patient. That they may be safe for a large number of healthy people does not mean that they are for every person, especially those with immune system disorders or other risk factors for an adverse outcome. The autism-causation theory has been disproven, and arose initially because autism tends to become clinically apparent about the same time that most early childhood immunizations are given. (Every competent statistician know that correlation does not imply causation.) That article has been retracted, and the author’s license to practice has been revoked in the U.K.

I agree with Dr. Stein about the FDA. It is no longer a truly independent agency, and has not been since at least the early 1990s. Among its many serious missteps was its approval — during what I sincerely hope is the only Clinton mis-administration — of direct-to-consumer advertising of prescription drugs. This has significantly increased the overall cost of healthcare in the U.S., since it has impeded the substitution of lower-cost generics. Pharmaceutical companies now spend several times as much on direct-to-consumer advertising as they do on research and development of new drugs. Guess who ends up paying for all that advertising?

I have my own personal horror story about Clinton, an immunization, and the FDA that I will share here at the appropriate time.

#JillNotHill

magsview

Passionate rant sister! (brother? 🙂 )

“You Can Have Your Weak Nominee If You Wish” – the Sanders Endorsement Backfires on Hillary Clinton, Empowers Sanders in One Masterstroke

The endorsement speech Sanders made was nearly identical to his stump speech, only that he attributed all the ideas and promises as Hillary Clinton’s and not just his. He listed off the accomplishments of his campaign in terms of votes, delegates, state victories, political participation and ideological shifts nationally – with Hillary Clinton nodding her head uncomfortably, beside him. Some of the Clinton promises that Sanders listed out were concessions that had not even been agreed to publicly by the Clinton camp yet.

After getting over with the aforementioned, Sanders declared that Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, and then he pledged to defeat Donald Trump, sharply attacking the presumptive Republican nominee. It took several hours for people to realize that Sanders hadn’t officially conceded – something the mainstream papers and TV news pundits have still not bothered to mention.

loneaudience
loneaudience

*standing ovation*

reflectionsv37

Great post! I feel the same way. I just officially received my confirmation of joining the Green Party yesterday. And yesterday, I also received my final, last ditch attempt email from the democratic party to change my mind.

I have to laugh because when I started this procedure the reply emails from them were threatening. Threatening me that if I left I might not be able to rejoin the democratic party for 3 years!! Now, the emails are almost begging me to reconsider. I truly hope I live long enough to see the complete destruction of the democratic party and I hope Hillary Clinton loses this election. I too no longer fear the evil!

Linda Thieman

I’m right there with you. My new reg for the Green Party arrived yesterday, too.

CaliforniaPat
CaliforniaPat

I never got those kinds of emails from the Dem party, all I got was fund raising snail mail. I switched right after the California primary to no party affiliation. I still do not know how I am voting but it will be the first time in 56 years that I have not voted for a Dem for president! Liberated at 77 yrs of age.

Star Strider

I got a fund raising snail mail from the Howard Dean several days ago. It came with a postage-paid return envelope, so I decided to have some fun. I wrote on the front of the tear-off donation form (with my name and address prominently displayed) ‘BERNIE OR LOSE! INDICT HELLARY!’ and on the back where it had the donation information, I crossed it out and wrote ‘$2700 => BERNIE!’. (I actually did max out my contribution to Bernie’s campaign over about a year.)

I doubt I’ll ever receive any more snail-mail from the DNC.

Linda Thieman

OMG. My mouth is hanging so far open I can hardly reach the keyboard. I second and third all the other standing ovations.

You note:

You have cast the scales from my eyes and shown me what you truly are: not a lesser evil at all, but an equal evil wearing a better disguise.

I think that her disguise is no longer better because the self-appointed Empress is wearing no clothes at all at this point.

Well done! Beyond well done! Brilliant!

Flourishing Of Years
Flourishing Of Years

I will be more than happy to vote for Hillary in November, and between today and then, will continue to work to get out the vote and encourage greater participation, particularly among Latino and Black communities in my city. I don’t think there’s any politician I’ve felt a need to say thank you to, except Barack Obama, but I probably will thank all my local politicians who I’ve helping to support with both my wallet and by getting the word out.

Star Strider

I will never thank anyone for reneging on their promises.

Toby Ziegler
Toby Ziegler

I will never thank anyone for

pushing for and then lying to the American people about the TPP.

Star Strider

I got an email this morning from MoveOn with information on a YUUGE anti-TPP protest and other public information events planned for Philadelphia and elsewhere during and after the DNC. I’m quite happy that knowledge of and opposition to the TPP will soon be widespread.

No more TPP secrecy.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

hooper
hooper

I too loved the diary (are they diaries here?), and I’ve been an active Clinton despiser and opposer since NAFTA, but I’d still vote for Mrs Lesser Evil if I were in a swing state. Not happily at all — she’ll probably get us into a bigger war, pass a cosmetically-altered TPP, and make just about everything else worse unless we can thwart her.
Unfortunately this time the boogieman is the real thing imo, a true Greater Evil.
My only positive hope is that she picks Franken or Brown or some other real progressive, to make her obviously-upcoming impeachment go down better. And that our Bernie candidates win his year, followed by a flood more in 2018.

phatkhat

Franken isn’t exactly a real progressive. Not sure about Brown.

Trump doesn’t scare me. Pence does. If we have another Cheney/Bush presidency, we could be in for a very rough ride. If I were in a swing state, I suppose I’d be having second thoughts at this point.

Antennaria
Antennaria

Being from Minnesota, I whole-heartedly second that Franken is not a progressive. Neither is Klobuchar. As far as I’m concerned, they’ve both let me down numerous times with their votes.

hooper
hooper

Thanks phatkhat and Antennarnia for the heads-up on Franken!
And Pence scares me too. If Trump was to win, then removed, we’d be in it maybe worse that with GWB.
I hate it but Hillary has to win. Then we’ll have to deal with her wars.

phatkhat

So, now I also have Kaine to be afraid of. Sigh. I’m voting Green.

occupystephanie
occupystephanie

I am not understanding why this comment has been downrated. In what way is this comment expressing an opinion offensive?

Reminds me of top.

belle de jour

Thus the confusion of establishing new understandings & mores. Or of not.

(As an aside: If the thumb’s up can mean a simple “Yeah!” about even one point in a post, I don’t personally see why a thumb’s down can’t similarly mean a simple “No way!” or “I don’t agree!” about even one point made in a post…?)

In any case, I most definitely can see a difference between enthusiastically disagreeing with a post – without necessarily having to spell out why, just as we don’t have to spell out why for a positive – from the far more tyrannical and abused and censorious and consequential flag abuse as practiced on the Seventh Planet.

occupystephanie
occupystephanie

Belle de jour, I believe I may have a touch of DK-PTSD going on. Stayed there waaaay too long. LOL

belle de jour

You & me both, sister. I imagine we’ll be jumping at noises and checking behind doors for a little while 🙂

But, oh my gosh, I’m so proud of the way we can bring things up & talk them out here. It may take a bit to find our way, but at least we’re not dodging rubbish thrown from on top and all sides, eh?

eve

I find it hard, Flourishing of Years, to be anything but cynical at this point.
Bernie Sanders is a decent person of good will who cares about average people and how they’ve been f….d over. As Noam Chomsky said – “a decent, honest, New Deal Democrat”. Bernie would have been great for this country and he has the best chance to win in November because people of all political persuasions trust him.
Secretary Clinton made her bed. I think, 45 years ago when she decided that she would climb to power as an enabler of a power structure that is rooted in Cold War ideology and with an ugly philosophy that poor people and people of color are lacking in worthy qualities. Both were failed and ugly ideologies.
And yet the Clintons in the 1990’s supported prisons for profit, the draconian Welfare Reform Act and 3 strikes and you’re out. She supported the Honduran Coup. She supported aggressive interventionist policies overseas. I cannot fathom the cynicism behind these measures. Except that she supported them to further her own ambitions.
You apparently sincerely believe in the good faith of your candidate and you have courage to be a lone wolf posting here where most people have seen too much, read too much, know too much to agree with you.
Nevertheless, in spite of the fact that I don’t understand why you waste your time posting here where most of us disagree with you, I accept that you sincerely believe in your candidate and you hope to change someone’s mind.
That is extremely unlikely to happen, my dear.

occupystephanie
occupystephanie

It’s been my impression that Bernie recommends voting Clinton in because at least a Democratic administration we could influence (or force) rather than a Trump (shudder) Reich.

Out here in Oregon, I still have not decided how I am going to vote yet. I have thrown my weight for a local initiative to allow ranked choice voting, so I am thinking about how we can improve our ability to vote intelligently.

Star Strider

BRILLIANT!

I’ve currently replaced my ‘Bernie’ button with a ‘Jill16’ button until the election. I have never before worn political buttons past the election, but this time I’ve resolved to wear my ‘Bernie’ button and ‘Bernie’ baseball cap whenever I go out, until I replace them with ones for another truly Progressive candidate I can campaign and vote for in 2020.

My purpose is simply schadenfreude. I want everyone to be reminded that they had the opportunity to avoid the inevitable disaster the United States is headed for (since I seriously doubt Jill will win), and made the wrong choice.

Everybody Sucks 2016

Toby Ziegler
Toby Ziegler

I gather you are not a fan of the Demobummer Party?

Star Strider

You gather correctly!

I’ve had it with voting for their candidates only to find out I actually voted for Republicans.

Sybil Liberty
Sybil Liberty

Me too. Altho I did take down my yard sign, no way anyone’s prying my Bernie bumper sticker off of my battered old blazer, or my Bernie schlepp bag out of my hands either.

polarbear4

Yard sign coming down after convention. StillStubborn. :O)

Linda Thieman

New hashtag: #StillStubbern

polarbear4

Good one!

gustogirl

Since so few people know who Jill is, why not wear both Bernie and Jill buttons/signs?

That might pique some interest and you can talk about Jill and the green party etc.

A lot of Berners are at a loss as to what to do now. Both buttons gives them a pkace toi gio.

Also,, Jill should use her full name on all promotional materials simply because she is not well known. The full name at least allows a google.

belle de jour

This is a simple, really smart idea. Any connection made will most likely mean good things all around.

Star Strider

I wear my Bernie baseball cap and Jill button whenever I’m out and about.

ProgressiveMonster
ProgressiveMonster

This article perfectly expresses how I feel. Once you see through all the lies and deception, it’s hard to forget about it.

Sybil Liberty
Sybil Liberty

Heck, I haven’t yet forgotten about the clinton’s dog-whistle-racist 2008 campaign. Nor do I want to. There was no way I could vote for hrc after that.

realdasein

Great point. Both Clintons have done plenty of damage to the communities of color whose older members keep voting for them. Remember Welfare to Work? Just doubled down on the racism inherent in the welfare system.

zoebear
zoebear

Bravo! A wonderfully compelling argument of why a Trump presidency is no longer our responsibility. I’m right there with you Sister. I’m done explaining myself anymore. Now I advocate for making the Green Party a viable choice.

Just one additional observation about the media narrative of us being sore losers, and the drum banging MSM has done since the California Primary about the crazy fascist that must be stopped by voting for Hillary . THEY forgot one thing. THEY were the ones who essentially gave Trump $2 billion of free advertising to prop up his ludicrous candidacy. So, I think thats some chutzpah of them laying his Presidency at our feet after THEY created him.

Star Strider

Your ‘additional observation’ is an extremely important one. I just wonder what the Trump/Sanders ratio for news coverage time or column-inches is. I suspect it’s close to infinity.

The local morning news (ABC affiliate) here is reporting that the latest polls have Johnson at 12% and Stein at 5%.

hooper
hooper

And a Trump presidency will never been our “responsibility” — even though we’ll be blamed if he gets in — no matter how we vote. That honor would go to Clinton herself, and to the media, the DNC, and all the other members of the deep state that want to continue their lucrative empire.

crbngville
crbngville

Well said!
#JillNotHill

Nobody
Nobody

I find it fascinating just how a major political party can push so many people out of it in such a short time with a single candidate. Actually, both parties can be accused of this in this election cycle. I cannot remember in my time any Presidential election where the candidates of both parties are viewed so unfavorably, and with disdain causing voting choice angst with the commons. Talk about voter apathy and cynicism…. We ain’t seen nothing yet.

I’ll be going to the city hall to change my affiliation from “Democrat”, to “Unaffiliated” before the month is up. In the immortal words of Bonzo Reagan, with a twist, I didn’t leave the Democratic Party; it left me.

Be safe out there.

Star Strider

The Democratic party became a Stalinist dictatorship:‘We will tell you whom to vote for, and we will count the votes to be certain that person wins.’ The implied message: ‘If you don’t like it, leave!’

So we did.

realdasein

Kudos, fantastic. Wonderful essay on the history of the whole sordid primary season. So nicely done! Getting to the core of the issue in spite of the daily, disparate clamor of voices over the last four months… Daily Krust included. Did you dare to post it there?

Benny

Why should the diarist bother at TOPS? TPW and c99 are the most appropriate places.

realdasein

Hmmm…. I guess… I guess to be honest my intentions aren’t very nice. I really just wish Markos had to read this essay. He was a part, small but important, of the machine that cheated Bernie out of the nomination, and us out of the amazing progress we would have made had he become President. Kos could have helped, but instead he actively hindered, and lied shrilly about the cheating, the delegates, the nomination process, and about what was “fair” and what wasn’t. He lied and bullied at every opportunity. I would like for him to read @demoniahypae ‘s excellent, eyes-wide-open summary of what went down, and I hope it really sticks in his craw.

Benny

Markos is now part of this group. It’s the only explanation why TOPS is no longer about “more and better Dems.”

realdasein

Aha. Yuck. God what a bunch of poorly-dressed aristocrats.

Jo Crain
Jo Crain

A truly righteous rant. And you speak for me because I am not that eloquent! I, too, no longer give a fuck who wins between Hill and fluffyhair. I will not waste my time caring about it. If we get a fascist so be it. I think Hill is close enough to one anyway. I will vote for Jill but my gut says it just won’t matter.

Star Strider

All votes matter.

A vote for Jill, in addition to being a vote for Jill, is a vote of ‘no confidence’ in the current system.