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jcitybone

There’s one Dem senator who is definitely not backing Bernie and declined to commit to supporting Bernie over Trump. No surprise that he is the one from WV

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/10/bernie-sanders-2020-senate-1213220

The last time Bernie Sanders ran for president, he was treated like a pariah within the Senate Democratic Caucus: His colleagues thought his campaign was a liberal fantasy that served only to damage Hillary Clinton.

This time, though, the Vermont independent is getting a warmer reception from the senators who comprise much of the Democratic establishment he’s railed against.

Senate Democrats say they’re increasingly open to getting behind Sanders if he appears the strongest candidate a year from now. And there’s no whiff of an effort to try and deny him the nomination, according to interviews with more than 20 Democratic senators.

It’s not that the Democratic Caucus is rallying behind him; most of them would prefer a more mainstream nominee, even if they’re unwilling to say it at this point. But they’re giving Sanders props for what he’s accomplished, and say if he’s able to win the nomination, more power to him.

WindDancer13

Translation: They may not stone him this time, but they will pile up rocks just in case.

orlbucfan

Manchin might as well change parties. T and R, LD!! Bernie has found the elixir of youth. Kudos to him from a disabled wrinkle.

polarbear4

Thanks, birdies!

polarbear4

Indeed, none of the people questioning the original claim about the burning trucks, or citing this evidence to argue that the U.S. Government and its Venezuelan ally Guaidó were lying, ever made it onto national television to present their dissent. They weren’t allowed on. To the extent they were acknowledged at all, it was to defame them as Maduro apologists – for telling the truth – just as those who tried to combat the propaganda of 2002 and 2003 were smeared as being pro-Saddam. Only Rubio, Bolton, Pompeo, and various other U.S. officials were permitted to spread their lies without any challenge.

polarbear4

Glad the NYT ran the exposé, though.

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orlbucfan

The sad fact about this whole deal is neither Maduro nor Guaido are big prizes. They’re both RW dictators. One was elected and the other wasn’t. That’s it.

polarbear4

Maduro is more of a LW dictator, imo. lol

Benny

New Bernie ad:

I know where I came from.

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Moving.

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Another link.

https://t.co/2oQXGlTMc4?amp=1

Bernie now. 😊

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Bernie is strong today. Can’t do multiple windows on my phone so will just check in now and then.

Benny

I listened to it over my smartphone while grocery shopping today. Probably the sole person in my town multitasking in that regard! 🙂

polarbear4

The answer, “[Frack] you!” to Bernie’s question “ what are we going to say to….” might become a regular feature if Bernie keeps framing questions this way. lol.

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I RL the way Bernie is modulating his voice more.

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I love how his rallies our interactive.

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People had to drive through this to get to the rally today.

Benny

That explains why Bernie was surprised and pleased about the turnout.

humphrey

What a surprise! A somewhat positive article about Bernie in Politico.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/10/bernie-sanders-2020-senate-1213220

The last time Bernie Sanders ran for president, he was treated like a pariah within the Senate Democratic Caucus: His colleagues thought his campaign was a liberal fantasy that served only to damage Hillary Clinton.

This time, though, the Vermont independent is getting a warmer reception from the senators who comprise much of the Democratic establishment he’s railed against.

Senate Democrats say they’re increasingly open to getting behind Sanders if he appears the strongest candidate a year from now. And there’s no whiff of an effort to try and deny him the nomination, according to interviews with more than 20 Democratic senators.

It’s not that the Democratic Caucus is rallying behind him; most of them would prefer a more mainstream nominee, even if they’re unwilling to say it at this point. But they’re giving Sanders props for what he’s accomplished, and say if he’s able to win the nomination, more power to him.

Benny

Well it was not taking as many shots at him. Guess the Hillary whisperers were busy doing something else.

polarbear4

Agree. I wouldn’t bet on there not being dirty tricks and even machine fixing in the primary and the general.

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Love the opening. Of course. :O)

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OzoneTom
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Different cut from the one we have been seeing all week. Even the ones who discounted Senator Sanders, love AOC for her Sanders-like stands. 😀

polarbear4

Crazy, isn’t it? The exact same policy.

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Chelsea Manning Jailed Again For Protecting Journalism

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Why Bernie is Better Than Biden and Kamala on Mass Incarceration

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Benny

Bernie rallies today in Keene. Look at the goers lining up on the sidewalk!

Benny

It is good that NH and Iowa take their positions as first in the nation seriously. I see complaints at TOP about “lilly white” demographics, but those voters are diehard and barring a tornado or a noreaster, they attend events and listen.

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I have no connection but you can order one here.

https://www.bernielights.com/

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Doctor Pummels Fox Hosts Into Submission On Medicare For All

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Amazing that she gets paid to write a column at the NYTimes.

This video has over 1,500,000 views!

NYTimes Journo Melts Down On Joe Rogan’s Show

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sent a tweet to the campaign with Andrew’s name during the whole Venezuela thing. Hope they consider it. Maybe Ro and Andrew can start it off. Couldn’t find Andrew’s Twitter handle.

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Bacevich

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/among-the-pro-restraint-progressives/

The purpose of the Khanna-vanden Heuvel initiative is identify a progressive alternative to permanent war.

Among the propositions floated by members of the panel were: basing U.S. policies on “realism and restraint”; repositioning the United States so that it serves as “a beacon rather than a menace” in the eyes of others; revisiting the ideology of “American Exceptionalism”; curbing military spending and the penchant for armed intervention abroad; seeking to restore a “working relationship” (to be distinguished from friendship) with Russia rather than rushing to embrace the inevitability of a new Cold War; breaking taboos that inhibit honest discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and of actions by the Netanyahu government; and assuming a more balanced position in the rivalry between Saudi Arabia and Iran rather than reflexively siding with the Saudi royals.

As a conservative, I subscribe to each of these. Perhaps I am mistaken, but I suspect that many other TAC readers do as well.

Where at least some conservatives will part company from my progressive comrades is on the issue of climate change.

Progressives view it as an existential threat to the American way of life and to the health of the planet. As it happens, I agree with that assessment.

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Too bad if their feelings are hurt.😁👍

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polarbear4

He is there to weaponize reparations.

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Good to see a tweet critical of Putin, too.

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❤️ beavers.

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I haven’t read the article. I wonder if he mentions Chelsea Manning?

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jcitybone

Bad enough Castro is attacking Bernie for something he himself doesn’t really have a plan for, Castro also couches it using very Republican “big check” language

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/433376-castro-hits-sanders-over-reparations-stance#

Democratic presidential candidate Julián Castro on Sunday hit Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) over his 2020 rival’s position on reparations.

“What he said … the other day was he didn’t think the best way to address this was for the United States to write a check.” Castro said during an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“However, it’s interesting to me that when it comes to ‘Medicare for all,’ health care, you know, the response there has been, ‘We need to write a big check.’ That when it comes to tuition-free or debt-free college, the answer has been that we need to write a big check,” the former Housing and Urban Development secretary added.

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Ilhan still with us.

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Bernie gets 42% of the “who should your 2nd choice be.”

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2 new campaign stops announced. N Charleston SC on 3/14 & Henderson, Nevada on 3/16

humphrey

I am sure it will be similar. Bernie rally in Keene NH.

Bernie Rallies Supporters in Keene, New Hampshire

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For comparison.
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Bernie rally.
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jcitybone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-taking-tough-jabs-at-trump/2019/03/10/391f0404-41d7-11e9-922c-64d6b7840b82_story.html?utm_term=.b402a8cec2aa

Two minutes into his stump speech in this strongly Democratic college town, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) made his first of many references to President Trump, calling him “the most dangerous president in modern American history.”

A short time later, he told the crowd that Trump “embarrasses us every day,” before attacking the president’s health-care promises. “I know it will shock you when I tell you he lied,” Sanders added.

Then, at an appearance in New Hampshire on Sunday, he told the crowd how his governing style would differ from Trump’s, as he saw it. “The underlying principles of our government will not be racism, sexism, homophobia and religious bigotry,” he said. “The principles that our government will work on will be based on justice.”

In his first swing through Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders has been an anomaly among the Democrats vying for the White House, as he routinely uttered two words that other candidates have often avoided: “Donald Trump.”

That makes Sanders’s approach stand out. His statement that “we must defeat Donald Trump” garnered sustained applause during a speech at the Iowa Fairgrounds on Saturday, suggesting it’s a line many Democrats — at least Sanders’s crowd — want to hear.

And steering too clear of the president carries other risks. If some Republicans regretted getting into a war of words with Trump in 2016, others concluded it had been a mistake to ignore him for much of the campaign, on the theory that he couldn’t win.

Sanders’s language reflects his message that he’s best positioned to defeat Trump, as well as an effort to assume the mantle of a front-runner who is looking ahead to the general election.

“A central question for Democratic primary and caucusgoers is, who is the best candidate to take on and beat Donald Trump?” said Jeff Weaver, a senior Sanders adviser. “And I think Bernie Sanders provides a powerful contrast to Trump.”

WindDancer13

Bernie has thrown the gauntlet down. Let’s see who is brave enough to face him on policies. Vaguery does not count as a policy stance.

Sanders pledges to support Democratic nominee in 2020

Sanders also vowed he would not go on the offensive against the other Democratic nominees, many of whom are his colleagues in the Senate.

“The nature of our campaign is not belittling people, it’s not opposition research, it’s not attacking other people, but is a serious discussion about the issues facing the American people,” he said.

Meanwhile, I wonder why The Hill chose to use an incendiary headline, knowing full well that this is a flash point for HRC people.

The comment section is full of misinformed people and ugliness. Strange counterpoint to Bernie calling for policy discussion rather than personal attacks. Methinks they missed the point.

humphrey

Well. Why doesn’t he run for the position before he is impeached?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/433419-trump-says-hed-poll-at-98-percent-if-he-ran-to-be-israel-prime

President Trump reportedly told a group of Republican National Committee (RNC) donors Friday night that he’d poll at 98 percent if he ran be Israel’s next prime minister.

Axios, citing three unnamed sources who heard Trump’s comments, reported Sunday that the president made the statement while speaking to a group of RNC donors at Mar-a-Lago.

The news outlet reported that security guards required attendees to place their cellphones in magnetized pouches to prevent possible leaks of Trump’s speech.

The three sources told Axios that Trump discussed a range of matters during his speech and drew laughter from the audience on a number of topics. Trump reportedly highlighted how much his administration has done for Israel, pointing to the decision to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

WindDancer13

Not saying stupid things could relieve a lot of that paranoia.

The news outlet reported that security guards required attendees to place their cellphones in magnetized pouches to prevent possible leaks of Trump’s speech.

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Just a reminder Tulsi Gabbard at 8:00 pm ET on CNN

Just watched Delaney and it is a small wonder that he is going nowhere.😁

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You might be able to watch it here if you do not have CNN as an option.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/sxsw-town-hall-delaney-gabbard-buttigieg/index.html

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It is not a surprise that at least initially CNN is hitting her with loaded pre-selected questions and follow up from Dana Bash.

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Dana keeps failing to crucify Tulsi but the program is not over.

Benny

I don’t think Tapper has interviewed Tulsi. Bash has a few times & always obnoxious.

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moved

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Jordan, they don’t want to point out that Bernie is Jewish for fear it gets him some votes. They spent 2016 trying to convince us he was an atheist so as to get him fewer votes. Harping on Hinduism is also to get Tulsi fewer votes.

Benny

I think Tulsi has done pretty well tonight. She’s composed and not been flapped despite the questions chosen by CNN. Tulsi has been pushing Bash back, very successfully.

jcitybone

Tulsi’s anti-gay views were really awful. She supported gay conversion therapy for god sakes. I appreciate that she has changed her views, but they were way worse than anything that Hillary thought.
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polarbear4

Tulsi Is so composed. That is a desirable trait in a leader, but I am worried that she does not inspire. I still see her as more of a cabinet member than a VP although of course I would vote for her if they choose that ticket.

Benny

Out of left field while we await Pete Buttigieg…

https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1104907869802188802

humphrey

To sum it up. In my opinion handled herself quite well and would bring a lot to the upcoming debates.

polarbear4

Def. Love love love her ambition to scale back the MIC. That’s when I heard passion in her voice, too.

polarbear4

Buttigieg bailed on the basic income. It’s big point is that it lifts people who don’t have a job. It increases rate that they find one or start a business.

Access to healthcare. Yikes.

Benny

I didn’t think his answer was too bad, but it did seem to fit in with what CAP is peddling. Better than John Delaney, who had no plans other than tweak ACA.

He’s a trial and error type but that’s because his work as a mayor in more liberal town.

But I hate it he’s getting pounded with LGBTQ questions.

polarbear4

Yeah, I wondered if that was why they snuck in the pronunciation question.

humphrey

“Please don’t judge my state by its former governor.” Good response.

Benny

What a stupid question about Pence, better or worse POTUS than Trump.

humphrey

Both are sacks of💩.

Benny

As AOC would say, neither are good options. 🙂

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But I liked the last barb, how is it Pence allowed himself to become the cheerleader of the porn-star presidency?

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Tulsi also changed up on Medicare for all, saying she envisions private insurance playing a role. But if you have that, you end up having the same kind of tiered healthcare, so real single payer does not allow for that. I imagine it will allow for stuff like cosmetic surgery.

Obviously, I’m no expert. We just don’t want Medicare for all to turn into what Medicare is today. My formerly caring, Catholic-based health system has shifted to where people on Medicare can’t even get into the behavioral health department and are most often shunted to physician assistant rather than doctors, stuff like that

No private room in hospital, if possible.

Pretty sure the other groups are the same.

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And I read where people in employer-based plans get appointments sooner than others, certainly before Medicare patients.

humphrey

I think that that is the same position as Bernie when he stated that if you want something extra like plastic surgery you can add insurance for it.

Benny

I like Mayor Pete for a position in the Executive Branch as I do think he’s analytical. He’d also make an excellent ambassador.

polarbear4

Yes. He and Tulsi seem like they’d work well together. Calm analysts.

Benny

I like his answer about the electoral college. Bernie was sort of asked that question, but I don’t recall if he said if the electoral college needed to be eliminated or not.

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Found this, though.

Benny

Interesting. I believe though his perspective in a Dem/Indie WH *(not as POTUS at this juncture) would be valuable. He is very diplomatic & looks at different sides of the proof of concept.

polarbear4

Not sure about his perspective on the homeless, though, after learning that.

But yeah, seems to have a great mind. This just makes me wonder about his compassion, Which is important to me.

polarbear4

I missed his Venezuela answer. Sounds like I wouldn’t have liked it.

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I’ve been wondering about other campaigns.

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Checking her Instagram, this appears to be a meet & greet in SC. The Instagram has video and it has a very tight frame, so yep, doesn’t seem to be a big crowd. Which is interesting for several reasons. (1) hillary’s backers who are backing her sure obviously thinking ‘female Obama.’ (2) we’ve read previously that her campaign is looking more towards SC, essentially conceding IA & NH to others & (3) how’d she get 20k at her campaign kick off in CA?

humphrey

Rent-a-crowd…..Maybe /s

jcitybone

Oakland is her home base. She’s popular there.

humphrey

I am not so sure about that. The activists are not impressed.

polarbear4

Her sorority sisters? Read that she has s huge network from that experience.

humphrey

Isn’t Denise from TOP one of them?

humphrey

I might not go quite this far! LOL

But it is good to see that it is noticed.

BREAKING: Tulsi”s Townhall May Have Made Her The Democratic Front Runner

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Because this was a livestream it begins really around the 10 min mark.

OzoneTom
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That is all Niko House, here is the CNN Town Hall footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWn650HzmsQ

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jcitybone

Well she should be asked about Hindu nationalism since a lot of her campaign $ in the past came from Hindu nationalists. She should also be asked about why she took lots of money from the defense industry as recently as 2017. What has changed? Also I would appreciate a question about why she is not supporting the GND.
Harris gets questioned about her past positions as a prosecutor. All candidates should be asked about stuff that seems contrary to what they are spouting now.

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Did you see her response to these questions?

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jcitybone

I do wish he would release his taxes and get that out of the way

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Naomi Wolf going through the actual bill. Wanted to save.

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But this is all that they have got as a reaction.😁🙄😏

This from one of his biggest bashers.

jcitybone

This guy is so stupid, it’s almost almost comical.

WindDancer13

Because it is really hard to say "sretsis dna srehtorb."

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I downloaded the two smaller posters to share with people that are a bit more conservative than I.

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This fact has been lost in the fauxfuror.

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