• A resource for Berners or friends who have doubts about Bernie;
    http://ilikeberniebut.com/

  • Just checking on how to post the tweet pix –got it now

  • What a Town Hall! Exeter is feeling the Bern! #NotMeUs #FITN pic.twitter.com/uMtEsQM6rg

    — Shannon Jackson (@shannondjackson) January 18, 2020

    Over flow crowd in bad weather conditions!!!!!

  • Now we need a TV ad!!! Obama was going to sell out boomers on SS as well

  • wi61 commented on the post, 1/18 Open Thread 17 hours ago

    Shocked that Wapo ran this! Not that Cnn or Msdnc would either. Still the question that the weapons of mass deception cant answer is how come young people 35 under are for Bernie? Look at the Butti surge!!!!, from 0% to 1% a 100% increase :). Bernie has to start hitting Uncle Joe on his votes on Medicare and soon, maybe some of our fellow boomers…[Read more]

  • Trump tweet: “They are rigging the election again against Bernie Sanders, just like last time, only even more obviously. They are bringing him out of so important Iowa in order that, as a Senator, he sit through the Impeachment Hoax Trial. Crazy Nancy thereby gives the strong edge to Sleepy [Biden].

    Even a blind Squirrel finds a nut, Trumpcorp…[Read more]

  • Most is pretty basic stuff that you or I would do, security for campaign material I don’t have to worry about that, just a precaution by Bernie and staff. If you want real crazy demands look at a rock band or tv stars or other politicians –the’re out in the twilight zone.

  • Tip jar for all that do OT’s Thank you!!!!

  • Hello Berners it been a while since I opened one so here goes. With MLK day on Monday thought i’d kick off the this Meme.

    Also it seems $hill tells Dems to vote for Bernie: well actually for the Dem most […]

    • Tip jar for all that do OT’s Thank you!!!!

    • Thanks for kicking this off, wi61. I’ve been worried that no one was going to extend me the opportunity today to lurk. I really appreciate all you guys and gals. I even miss windancer(sp?) and tyranno… My sister and I were just talking a few days ago about Chitown ’68. Hope it doesn’t get to that.

    • Thanks wi61!

      In Iowa, it’s less of a problem because he won’t make viability and his supporters can recaucus with Bernie. In NH, Bernie is also losing votes to Tulsi, but a good portion of her voters are Republicans who wouldn’t vote for any other Dem.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/yang-problem-how-yang-could-pull-critical-support-sanders-new-n1116661

      “If Sanders has a problem in New Hampshire, I think it’s a Yang problem,” said Dante Scala, a political science professor the University of New Hampshire’s Carsey School of Public Policy and a local demographics expert. “Every young voter Yang takes, I think you could make a good case it’s a Sanders voter.”

      Sanders easily won the state’s primary in 2016 with 60 percent of the vote, thanks in large part to a coalition of young people, independents, and voters looking outside the establishment. Based on interviews conducted at dozens of events held over the past few months, Yang is attracting the same types of voters at his campaign stops

      • Tulsi will crash in NH. She’s not polling that well.

        I’ve seen more Yang and Bernie signs here in the West LA area. None for Biden or Warren.

      • The young people who were fervently behind Bernie in 2016 won’t bolt to Yang. A lot of them don’t trust hm. If anyone goes for Yang, it will be tech nerds who are usually ‘meh’ about politics.

    • Well he moved to VT. He must like the cold! 🤗

      • But with comfortable bedding. Most everyone sleeps better when the temperature is lower. There are also some rumors from the same media who said that Jeff Zucker at CNN has instructed the producers to turn up the heat during Bernie’s upcoming town hall.

      • I’m reminded of a young Sudanese refuge in the documentary Lost Boys of Sudan say that if he mentioned (am paraphrasing) that it was hot outside in the Walmart parking lot as he gathered shopping carts he might hear,’thought you’d be used to it!’, he laughed, and went on to say, “Just because I’m used to it doesn’t mean I LIKE it!”

      • I suppose this ” expert ” isn’t Jewish?

        This appears to be antisemitic to me.

    • https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478887-sanders-to-headline-iowa-event-amid-impeachment-trial

      Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is set to headline a campaign event in Iowa for his presidential bid next week in the middle of the Senate’s impeachment trial.

      Sanders’s campaign announced that he will hold a rally at the University of Northern Iowa on Wednesday evening, the day after the trial of President Trump is set to kick off.

      The senator is also slated to hold two events in Iowa on Monday, on the eve of the impeachment proceedings.

    • 2 minute extra clip from Glennwald interview

      extended Greenwald interview by Taibbi. Glenn on at 35min

      https://t.co/77CpN0j9U7?amp=1

    • Did you hear about the latest scandal?

      Right on the heels of Joy Reid and her body language expert (who is apparently a regular on Lou Dobbs) we learn this!

      Btw, by ‘FREEZING’, they are referring how Bernie’s team asks hotels to:

      Make sure room temperature is at 60 (or 65 with one fan running)

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7896375/Bernie-Sanders-2020-presidential-campaign-rider-calls-room-FREEZING.html

      • Most is pretty basic stuff that you or I would do, security for campaign material I don’t have to worry about that, just a precaution by Bernie and staff. If you want real crazy demands look at a rock band or tv stars or other politicians –the’re out in the twilight zone.

    • “Joe Biden commands a boardroom” Barf. Looks like we know where that endorsement is going. Quelle Surprise!

      https://www.salon.com/2020/01/18/press-watch-why-is-the-mainstream-media-so-gentle-with-joe-biden/

      These top reporters don’t hesitate to grill Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, often with gotcha questions and Republican talking points.
      :

      So why are they so easy on Joe? I can only speculate.

      I think part of it is that they’re a bit awestruck. (“Joe Biden commands a boardroom,” the New York Times editorial board wrote about its collective interview with him.)

      Part of it is that when Biden answers questions about his fitness by saying “look at me,” our elite journalists are simply not rude or direct enough to say: “Yeah, we look at you, and what we see someone who often can’t complete a coherent thought.”
      :

      Maybe, like Biden’s fellow candidates — who have also failed to sufficiently confront him in their debates or take out negative ads — they are worried about blowback from Biden’s supporters.

      Maybe they just can’t bring themselves to help Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

      Most likely, these journalists — the most elite of the journalistic elite — are just plain comfortable with Biden, and don’t feel remotely antagonistic, because he reflects their centrist, Washington cocktail-party ideology.
      :

      He’s not talking about rocking the boat. He’s talking about going back to the way things were, and they were happy then.

      By not actively asking Biden any hard questions, these top-tier journalists are offering de facto support for the pre-Trump status quo ante, without overtly looking like they are taking sides.

      But if they allow a weak candidate to become the sole alternative to Trump, which appears to be the unacknowledged or unconscious goal, the net effect may be paving the way for four more years.

    • Trump tweet: “They are rigging the election again against Bernie Sanders, just like last time, only even more obviously. They are bringing him out of so important Iowa in order that, as a Senator, he sit through the Impeachment Hoax Trial. Crazy Nancy thereby gives the strong edge to Sleepy [Biden].

      Even a blind Squirrel finds a nut, Trumpcorp not far off from being actually right on something for a change and I hate to admit it.. Next complaint will be that Bernie uses a private jet to go to Iowa during the trial.

    • Shocked that Wapo ran this! Not that Cnn or Msdnc would either. Still the question that the weapons of mass deception cant answer is how come young people 35 under are for Bernie? Look at the Butti surge!!!!, from 0% to 1% a 100% increase :). Bernie has to start hitting Uncle Joe on his votes on Medicare and soon, maybe some of our fellow boomers will wake up.Another point for black boomers concerning Social Security – Almost three-fourths (72 percent) of African American beneficiaries rely on Social Security for at least half their income, compared to less than two-thirds (65 percent) of all beneficiaries. And they trust Bydone– crazy

    • a tweet said that this is a BS article on TheGuardian

      I co-founded Occupy Wall Street. Now I’m headed to Davos. Why?
      Micah White
      Rejecting Davos is easy when one hasn’t been invited. Now that I have a chance to go, I want to discover its revolutionary potential

      From wiki

      Occupy Wall Street (OWS) was a protest movement that began on September 17, 2011, in Zuccotti Park, located in New York City’s Wall Street financial district, against economic inequality. The Canadian anti-consumerist and pro-environment group/magazine Adbusters initiated the call for a protest.
      Date‎: ‎September 17, 2011

      Note that the magazine Adbusters initiated the call. That is where Micha White was and he has since gone on to speak at college campuses and other places and written about revolution. I was following him on the web and I went to two presentations he made here in OH at a two universities. One was a 2+ hour drive.

      I was unimpressed

      He is in marketing and he gets time on the big stage. Well, there are even politicians who get invited so just an invitation doesn’t mean much. In fact, he is possibly another village idiot who the powerful will use for their own ends like they have in many other places.

      Maybe I am being too cynical, but I wouldn’t send him as my representative

      To turn down the World Economic Forum would mean believing that I can know in advance what will could come from going. On the contrary, my experience as an activist has taught me it is often the emergent and unexpected outcomes that end up being the most significant. I had to go to see what would happen if I went.

      and he is seeking the hidden Davos

      And then there is the hidden Davos: the private, off-the-record events organized by the World Economic Forum. These secretive invite-only meetings are held under the Chatham House rule, a strict guideline that protects the anonymity of participants in order to facilitate frank discussion. These, along with the equally confidential bilateral meetings held between participants in corridors and hotel lobbies, is the Davos with the potential to usher in great social changes.

      In the hidden Davos opposing social forces, activists and elites, can put their egos and personas aside to speak freely and find common cause for joint action on the global crises that impact us all – from income inequality to climate change. It is here that the argument can be made that elites must stop suppressing protest and instead harness the creative energy of social movements to achieve great changes. The Forum is perhaps the only place on earth where these opportunities for fraternization are possible.

      if he marches outside with Greta, then I will have a little more hope that he can make a difference

      • here is the action that is important at Davos

        At Davos we will tell world leaders to abandon the fossil fuel economy
        Averting catastrophe would be the best business decision to emerge from the economic forum in its 50 years of existence

        Greta Thunberg tells world leaders to end fossil fuel ‘madness’

        The world of finance has a responsibility to the planet, the people and all other species living on it. In fact, it ought to be in every company and stakeholder’s interest to make sure the planet they live on will thrive. But history has not shown the corporate world’s willingness to hold themselves accountable. So it falls on us, the children, to do that. We call upon the world’s leaders to stop investing in the fossil fuel economy that is at the very heart of this planetary crisis. Instead, they should invest their money in existing sustainable technologies, research and in restoring nature. Short-term profit should not trump long-term stability of life

        The theme of this year’s gathering in Davos is “stakeholders for a cohesive and sustainable world”. According to the forum’s website, leaders will meet to discuss ideas and improve our global progress on climate change. Our request to them is perhaps not so far-fetched considering that they say they understand and prioritise this emergency. Anything less than immediately ceasing these investments in the fossil fuel industry would be a betrayal of life itself. Today’s business as usual is turning into a crime against humanity. We demand that leaders play their part in putting an end to this madness. Our future is at stake, let that be their investment.

    • Not the right kind of gays I guess

      https://www.wpri.com/news/local-news/providence/providence-gay-club-claims-pete-buttigiegs-husband-cancelled-fundraiser-due-to-dancer-pole/

      A popular Providence LGBTQ nightclub says the campaign of Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg canceled a fundraiser with Buttigieg’s husband Friday night due to concerns over the venue’s appropriateness.

      Chasten Buttigieg, husband of the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, had been slated to headline the fundraiser at the Dark Lady Friday night.

      The event had been widely promoted on social media, including by City Council President Sabina Matos. Buttigieg, the first openly gay candidate to mount a major run for president, is believed to be in the top tier of candidates ahead of the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary next month. He has been endorsed by Providence Mayor Jorge Elorza.

      Buck Asprinio, the general manager of the Dark Lady, said members of the campaign who arrived at the venue ahead of the event said they asked staff members to remove the “dancing pole” in the middle of the club. They refused to do so.

      “It’s been here since we opened and it’s not going anywhere,” Asprinio said. “The dancer pole is part of who we are ─ if you want to dance on a pole, we’re the place to be.”

    • It’s good that Biden took the bait and brought SS to the forefront.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-rips-sanders-campaign-for-social-security-attacks/2020/01/18/dac734ec-3a48-11ea-a1ff-c48c1d59a4a1_story.html?outputType=amp&utm_source=reddit.com

      Joe Biden has called for Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign to “disown” what he calls “doctored video” that some Sanders supporters say shows the former vice president endorsing Republican calls to cut Social Security and Medicare.

      “There’s a little doctored video going around … put out by one of Bernie’s people,” Biden told supporters Saturday in Indianola, Iowa, referring to a 2018 speech in which Biden discussed then-House Speaker Paul Ryan saying rising deficit demanded action on the popular entitlement programs.

      “I’m looking for his campaign to come forward and disown it,” Biden continued, pointing to his 2020 campaign proposals designed to shore up Social Security. “But they haven’t done it yet.”

      The video in question, circulated on Twitter by a top Sanders adviser, does not appear to be altered. But the short clip omits Biden’s larger argument over how Ryan handled the 2017 tax cuts and subsequent budget debates. A separate Sanders’ adviser included a transcript of Biden’s remarks in the video clip in a separate campaign newsletter. He added other, more extended video, of Biden as a U.S. senator in 1995 and presidential candidate in 2007 explaining his support for a more austere federal budget, including putting Social Security and Medicare “on the table.”

      The 2020 campaign flap highlights long-standing philosophical fissures between the progressive Sanders, who has spent decades arguing for a massive expansion of the federal government, and the more centrist Biden. Those differences have come to the forefront as Biden and Sanders are bunched with Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren atop early state polls weeks before the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary.

      Responding to Biden’s remarks Saturday, Sanders campaign manager Faiz Shakir said, “Joe Biden should be honest with voters and stop trying to doctor his own public record of consistently and repeatedly trying to cut Social Security.”

      “The facts are very clear: Biden not only pushed to cut Social Security — he is on tape proudly bragging about it on multiple occasions,” Shakir said in a statement. “The vice president must stop dodging questions about his record, and start explaining why he has so aggressively pushed to slash one of the most significant and successful social programs in American history, which millions of Americans rely on for survival.”

      Sanders’ camp, meanwhile, maintains that Biden’s history is more important than his current proposals. Another of their favorite video clips shows then-Sen. Biden, in the first years after Republicans’ 1994 midterm election romp, calling for a more austere approach. “When I argued that we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security, as well,” Biden said at the time. “I meant Medicare and Medicaid. I meant veterans’ benefits. … And I not only tried it once. I tried it twice, I tried it a third time, and I tried it a fourth time.”

      Just as the Biden campaign argues that Republicans would lambaste the Vermont senator as a socialist if he wins the Democratic nomination, Sanders’ backers retort that Trump would use the same video clips they cite to harm Biden with older voters who will prove critical in battleground states in November.

      • There is a da#med good reason why Byedone is a 2- time POTUS campaign loser. He had his mental cookies together back then, too.

      • he can run, but he can’t hide.

        also, Bernie does not want a “massive expansion” of government. He wants a reallocation of money.

    • This ‘body language expert’ is an anti-vaxxer.

      Supports a method of incrimination that likely leads to false incarceration

      Said Hillary Clinton was using ‘evil laughter’ in 2007

      Uhh…

      And she was spreading a conspiracy that Obama ordered the CIA to train ISIS

      And frequented Fox News/Fox Business (here seen with the fashy as hell Lou Dobbs) in 2016

      Great work, MSNBC!

      Just…turn off the TV, folks.

    • https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/17/pete-takes-money-fossil-fuel-billionaires-climate-activists-disrupt-buttigieg-rally

      Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg was interrupted at a campaign rally in New Hampshire on Friday by climate activists angered by the former South Bend, Indiana mayor’s lackluster approach to the climate crisis and his campaign’s continued reliance on fossil fuel money.

      “I can’t make out your song, but we definitely want the same things,” Buttigieg told the group of climate action advocates who broke out in song and held up signs reading “Pete Takes Money From Fossil Fuel Billionaires” during the candidate’s remarks at the event in Concord.

      Buttigieg countered the protest and criticism by tell the crowd there was some “inaccurate information going up here” and noting that he “took the fossil fuel pledge” and is “determined to bring about solutions on climate change.”

      While Buttigieg has, in fact, signed the “No Fossil Fuel Money” pledge, critics of the candidate point out that his continued openness to PACs and high-dollar bundlers means it’s impossible to know exactly which individuals and what kind of corporate interests are backing and funding his campaign.

    • OUR CAMPAIGN SCARES TRUMP: MANCHESTER RALLY

      OUR CAMPAIGN SCARES TRUMP: In case you haven’t noticed, Trump and the Republican Party have been attacking our campaign. It looks like the most dangerous president in modern history is getting nervous, and he should be. Join us for our rally in Manchester, NH:

      Posted by Bernie Sanders on Saturday, January 18, 2020

      Bernie rally in NH. Naomi Klein is speaking at the moment,

    • Now we need a TV ad!!! Obama was going to sell out boomers on SS as well

      • Bernie’s campaign must be thrilled that Biden took the Social Security bait. It’s a good ground to go after Biden on and turns the page on the Warren crap.

        Pretty bad mistake by Biden to bring this up. A preview of his mistakes if he goes against Trump

        https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/18/facts-are-very-clear-sanders-team-hits-back-after-biden-claims-social-security-video

        For its part, the Sanders campaign appeared to relish the opportunity to have the issue discussed in detail. National press secretary Briahna Joy Gray tweeted a video capturing Biden’s comments at the Iowa event and said she hoped the “media covers this as a substantive policy agreement”

        David Sirota, a speechwriter and frequent message amplifier for the Sanders campaign, sent an email out Saturday evening that stated: “Biden claimed that one video of him pushing Social Security ‘adjustments’ was doctored—but Biden’s absurd assertion has been widely debunked and discredited by reporters and Social Security advocates.”

        Journalists who have looked at the issue closely, including The Intercept’s Washington bureau chief Ryan Grim, agreed it is not accurate to describe the video Biden is referencing as “doctored.”

        Grim reported in a piece published Monday that Biden has “advocated cutting social security for 40 years.”

        And despite the Biden campaign’s now repeated assertion that the comments about agreeing with Paul Ryan were taken out of context, Grim’s reporting argues that “Biden’s record on Social Security is far worse than one offhand remark.”

        n a column this week, Alex Lawson, executive director of Social Security Works, said it is no longer possible for Biden to outrun his record on attacking Social Security—a history that Republicans will surely weaponize against him in the general election.

        Biden’s record, argued Lawson—who endorsed Sanders officially in December—would be a “a major vulnerability should he become the Democratic nominee. In the 2016 election, Donald Trump continually promised to protect Social Security and Medicare. That was a lie. But lying has never bothered Trump, and he’ll be happy to use the same playbook in 2020.”

      • This is a good video, and consistent with Sen. Sanders’ policy to run on a more positive note:

        I am not sure to have seen it here, but is is a good one by Berners not part of the campaign.

    • Right, I expect that there were plans to publicize Biden’s history on this subject during last weeks’s debate but the opportunity was preempted by the script/private convo distraction.

    • and AOC.

    • A resource for Berners or friends who have doubts about Bernie;
      http://ilikeberniebut.com/

    • ”And as the Sanders campaign is fond of noting, Biden has a long history of endorsing Social Security benefit cuts dating back to the 1980s and 1990s.” Thanks Joe for bringing this up!

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-social-security-inaccurate-doctored-video-2020-democratic-presidential-primary_n_5e23b79dc5b673621f772e58

      Former Vice President Joe Biden is finally firing back at Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ depiction of him as a longtime proponent of Social Security cuts, following a Tuesday debate in Des Moines, Iowa, that omitted the issue entirely.

      But in seeking to reassure voters about his commitment to protecting Social Security, Biden is mischaracterizing Sanders’ tactics.

      Biden inaccurately claimed on Saturday that a video circulated by Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign had been “doctored” to make him seem more supportive of Social Security cuts than he really is.

      But “doctoring” a video such that it could be considered “a fake,” generally refers to footage that is fabricated or tampered with, rather than a video excerpt that is simply lacking the full context.

      What’s more, Biden’s uses the term “adjustments” in reference to Social Security after going on a riff about whether affluent Americans actually need their benefits, making it sound as if he implicitly is interested in some form of means-testing or income-based benefit reductions.

      “Now, I don’t know a whole lot of people in the top one-tenth of 1 percent or the top 1 percent who are relying on Social Security when they retire. I don’t know a lot of them. Maybe you guys do,” he said in his speech to Brookings, before launching into his plans for a “pro-growth, progressive tax code.”

      As Biden notes in his conversation with the voter on Saturday, his Social Security plan would increase benefits and extend the program’s solvency by lifting the cap on taxable income for Social Security purposes. The benefit increases he proposes include the creation of a minimum benefit at 125% of the federal poverty level, tackling poverty in late old age through a benefit bump-up for people collecting benefits for 20 years or more, and a change allowing surviving spouses to keep a larger share of benefits.

      But in the past, some proposals to reform the program that have included at least one of these benefit increases also cut benefits in other ways.

      And as the Sanders campaign is fond of noting, Biden has a long history of endorsing Social Security benefit cuts dating back to the 1980s and 1990s.

      As then-President Barack Obama’s vice president, Biden served as Obama’s liaison to Senate Republicans at a time when Obama had put a cut to Social Security cost-of-living adjustment on the table in pursuit of “grand bargain” that would also increase tax revenue. Obama would make that technical change, the “chained” consumer price index, part of his 2013 budget resolution, prompting a White House protest where Sanders spoke.

  • just had to post this, very emotional and with the BS of the debate it keeps the BP down 😉

    Exceptional New Bernie Ad. The Times They Are a-Changin: Bernie Sanders from WayOfTheBern

  • Me to + Bernie still ahead with MOE

  • As you know Bernie won WI in 16. Trumpcorp won wi by only 23 K votes. 250K registered Dems sat the election out. If Bernie’s the nominee trumpcorp will not carry wi.

  • No worries Humphrey none taken.

  • Wonder what Bernie was thinking as he left the stage after his encounter with Warren? Not normal for Berine to have his head down.

  • I miss a lot of the late night Berners posting but do try to review the previous nights posts.

  • Apologies if this was poated before,

    Senator Bernie Sanders is the winner of our Post-#DemDebate Snap Poll. Figures:

    Sanders 37%
    Biden 21%
    Buttigieg 15%
    Klobuchar 11%
    Warren 10%
    Steyer 6% pic.twitter.com/Uk8WNICA9d

    — US Politics Polls (@USPoliticsPoll) January 15, 2020

  • Just a thought, was this Warrens deplorables moment or even Romneys 47%?

  • Is it my imagination or is Bernie getting more endorsement’s now than in 16?

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