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Thanks again for another Science Sunday. Just curious if a short version of your user name is bob or bimbo?


New cars and car purchasing are so far away from me that I have no idea how common the new car price of $42,000 is? I do wonder how something like this “affordable” Tesla will move through the used car market.


An indirect but worthwhile method to limit the use of plastic bottles would be an intensive infrastructure program guaranteeing everyone access to safe clean drinking water. It would eliminate the need for such a wasteful practice. The money could come from the bloated military budget.


On the morning of August 21, a dark shadow will cross over North America. The temperature will drop, people will see stars and a fiery halo will appear in the sky.
No, it’s not the apocalypse – it’s a once-in-a-lifetime solar eclipse.

We happen to be at a very lucky place in the universe and a very lucky place in earth’s history and time to be able to see this complete blocking out of sun.
In fact, the complete solar eclipse will last between just two minutes and two minutes and 40 seconds in parts of the United States.

Still, a two-minute eclipse? What’s all the hype about? The answer: an eclipse of this magnitude – it will travel from coast to coast across the United States – hasn’t been seen since 1918, according to NASA.

To witness “totality,” you must be within a 110-kilometre-wide band that moves from northwest to southeast across the U.S., starting in Oregon and ending in South Carolina. Head to Hopkinsville, Kentucky, where the full eclipse will last two minutes and 40 seconds, the longest period of totality in North America, or go to an eclipse festival. But be warned: some hotels have been booked up for years.


The Tesla Model 3 and the Chevy Bolt are both long-range, all-electric cars for the people — each is about $35,000 to $37,000 before tax credits — but they embody very different design philosophies.

The Model 3, which launches Friday, is the handiwork of Tesla’s chief designer, Franz von Holzhausen. When it was unveiled in March 2016, it set a slightly new direction for the carmaker. The front fascia, for example, lacked any conventional automotive cues, such as a grille — an unnecessary element, of course, because Teslas don’t need to inhale air to burn gasoline.

The Tesla Model S and Model X would adopt this new language. In any case, the Model 3 continued Tesla’s tradition of making its cars look sleek, fast, and sexy. The Model 3 might be for the mass market, but it evokes the luxury EVs that Tesla is selling.

The Bolt is something else altogether: an electric car that aims for practicality over sex appeal, while still serving up some tasty performance. (You can read our review here.) Designer Stuart Norris and the South Korea-based studio made sure the Bolt was roomy inside and provided good cargo capacity.

The Bolt looks much more like an everyday five-door hatchback. In this sense, it’s a throwback to some earlier ideas about alternative-fuel vehicles. Think of the Toyota Prius when it arrived — nobody would have called it beautiful. Its appearance advertised its virtue.

It’s sexy versus sensible, then, when you put the Bolt and the Model 3 side by side. (By the way, we’re talking about the preproduction version of the Model 3. The real deal won’t enter our field of vision until Friday evening.)


Very interesting. I wonder whether sexy or sensible will prove to be more reliable–the most important attribute for me.

Don midwest
Don midwest

Electric car movies: 2006, 2011

“Who Killed The Electric Car” was shown in 2006.

GM introduced it in CA in the 1990’s — this is from wikipedia

The film deals with the history of the electric car, its modern development, and commercialization. The film focuses primarily on the General Motors EV1, which was made available for lease mainly in Southern California, after the California Air Resources Board (CARB) passed the Zero-emissions vehicle (ZEV) mandate in 1990 which required the seven major automobile suppliers in the United States to offer electric vehicles in order to continue sales of their gasoline powered vehicles in California. Nearly 5000 electric cars were designed and manufactured by Chrysler, the Ford Motor Company, General Motors (GM), Honda, Nissan, and Toyota; and then later destroyed or donated to museums and educational institutions. Also discussed are the implications of the events depicted for air pollution, oil dependency, Middle East politics, and global warming.
The film details the California Air Resources Board’s reversal of the mandate after relentless pressure and suits from automobile manufacturers, continual pressure from the oil industry, orchestrated hype over a future hydrogen car, and finally the George W. Bush administration.

A portion of the film details GM’s efforts to demonstrate to California that there was no consumer demand for their product, and then to take back every EV1 and destroy them. A few were disabled and given to museums and universities, but almost all were found to have been crushed. GM never responded to the EV drivers’ offer to pay the residual lease value; $1.9 million was offered for the remaining 78 cars in Burbank, California before they were crushed. Several activists, including actresses Alexandra Paul and Colette Divine, were arrested in the protest that attempted to block the GM car carriers taking the remaining EV1s off to be crushed.

The film explores some of the motives that may have pushed the auto and oil industries to kill off the electric car. Wally Rippel offers, for example, that the oil companies were afraid of losing their monopoly on transportation fuel over the coming decades; while the auto companies feared short-term costs for EV development and long-term revenue loss because EVs require little maintenance and no tuneups. Others explained the killing differently. GM spokesman Dave Barthmuss argued it was lack of consumer interest due to the maximum range of 80–100 miles per charge, and the relatively high price.

The film also showed the failed attempts by electric car enthusiasts trying to combat auto industry moves, and save the surviving vehicles. Towards the end of the film, a deactivated EV1 car #99 is found in the garage of Petersen Automotive Museum, with former EV sales representative, Chelsea Sexton, invited for a visit.
The film also explores the future of automobile technologies including a deeply critical look at hydrogen vehicles, an upbeat discussion of plug-in hybrids, and examples of other developing EV technologies such as the Tesla Roadster (released on the market two years after the film).

The director produced a follow up movie in 2011 “The Revenge of the Electric Car”


Revenge follows four entrepreneurs from 2007 through the end of 2010 as they fight to bring the electric car back to the world market in the midst of the 2008 global recession. The film has unprecedented access to co-Founder Elon Musk in the first three years of Tesla Motors during which Musk suffered several grave setbacks to his dream of a car company without gasoline. His foils include the charismatic Bob Lutz, Vice Chairman of General Motors during its 2008 bankruptcy, due in part to its focus on trucks and SUVs instead of fuel efficient and electric cars. Elon and Bob also face Carlos Ghosn, the CEO credited with saving Renault-Nissan from near bankruptcy and who now had pledged $1 billion to beat Toyota to the pure electric game. A final character, Greg Abbott, makes the case for independent electric car conversions in California.[2][3] Danny DeVito is also interviewed, as an electric car enthusiast and owner of a Chevy Volt and earlier GM’s ill-fated EV-1, as well as Internet entrepreneur and Tesla customer Jason Calacanis.

Whereas the 2006 film Who Killed the Electric Car? ended with the destruction of 5,000 electric cars from California’s clean air program, notably the GM EV1, the new film documents the rebirth of a new generation of electric cars including the Chevrolet Volt, the Nissan Leaf, and the Tesla Roadster.[2][3]

Again, that was from wikipedia.

In the wake of world wide rush to renewables, here way back in 2010 was action on EV

And now Trump harps on fossil fuel

He is being out run by EV

Don midwest
Don midwest

Wireless is wonderful!! (for repressive governments)

Technology + Politics in UAE + US think tanks + weapons

We look in horror at the defense budget and the rise of surveillance around the world. Here is a story of politics and repression in a country

Photo: Andy Wong/Press Pool/AP

THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES has one of the most repressive governments in the world. The Gulf dictatorship brutally cracks down on internal dissent and enables abusive conditions for its massive migrant labor force. It also plays a key role in the bloody war in Yemen, running a network of torture prisons in the “liberated” parts of the country.

That makes it all the more shocking that the UAE is so rarely criticized by leading U.S. think tanks, who not only ignore the Gulf dictatorship’s repression, but give a privileged platform to its ambassador, Yousef Al-Otaiba. Otaiba is a deeply influential voice in U.S. foreign policy circles, and is known in Washington for using his pocketbook to recruit allies.

And if Hillary was elected, this could be her Scty of Defense

One of the documents obtained by The Intercept was an invoice from the Center for New American Security, an influential national security think tank founded in 2007 by alumni from the Clinton administration. The invoice, dated July 12, 2016, billed the UAE embassy $250,000 for a paper on the legal regime governing the export of military-grade drones. It was signed by Michele Flournoy, a senior Pentagon official under President Barack Obama; Hillary Clinton was widely expected to name Flournoy as her Secretary of Defense. Flournoy co-founded CNAS and, in addition to outside work as a management consultant, currently serves as the think tank’s CEO


That tidbit about Flournoy and the CNAS was one of the things that made me rabidly anti-Clinton. I posted it far and wide, but Hill-bots are impervious. Which leads to this interesting study…

Don midwest
Don midwest

Hackers break into voting machines in minutes at hacking competition

This has been known for years and years and years

SOSDD same old shit different day

article from The Hill posted today on hackers at the convention

who benefits???

both political factions because they want the ruse that elected officials are legitimate because they are elected

part of the larger ruse that we are a democracy

hard to keep that fiction going after the slow moving coup d’etat

Greg Palast, the investigative reporter who has been on the voting story for almost a decade, met with Bernie and Rev. Jackson in Chicago a few weeks ago. Bernie and Rev Jackson said they would take up the issue of elections.

I called Thom Hartmann’s program last week and asked why the dems have not taken up the issue. He said that he has been on it since 2000 and finally sees a little movement from the dems.

Amazing that Bernie is the leader of the country. Shadow cabinet.

Don midwest
Don midwest

Link to Greg Palast’s web page. Two videos are currently on top. Short one with Bernie and Rev Jackson. And Greg points out that 93 million voter files already given to Kobach through his KS SOS web site. Then a second longer video of Greg on Thom Hartmann’s show



T and R bebimbob, and thanks!! 🙂


A rhetorical question.

Which one is the birdbrain? The bird for consuming the plastic of US for putting it there in the first place.


The demise of the gas powered car will happen Big Oil is going fight it kicking and screaming for every $$$. How much oil is left since its finite is the biggest secret on the planet. So the day alternative powered cars is coming. So are self driving cars which will be a big help to elderly with eyesight conditions and other ailments where they shouldn’t be driving but still want to go places this tech would be useful in that reguard