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pepprmp
pepprmp

I hear ya….and feel the same way!

indrasnet
indrasnet

and now that i’ve recovered from my shock: i completely agree with you, Thumb. it’s been a tough few months.

polarbear4

Me, too. I’m having a hard time attending the county committee meeting tomorrow night, but I want to vote to join forces with A Better Oregon, a group advocating for Measure 97, which would raise taxes only on corporations that make yuge profits. I really want to vote for us to join them in this cause.

But I won’t canvass for Hill and probably not for Wyden, who voted for Fast Track for TPP, although he’s been somewhat good on privacy, on TPP and our old forests, he has been harmful.

Apparently, though, they cannot kick me out, at least not easily.

If it becomes contentious, I’ll let them know the truth: I’m here to help bring the party back to its true roots–FDR style–and that I cannot accept that my lifelong party has become, in essence, a Republican one in all but name.

NVPainter

That’s why I haven’t left, either, though I’m not actively involved in party politics as you are. I want to take the party back — especially because our political system is set up as a two-party system. I’m telling pollsters calling (I’ve gotten quite a few) that I’m voting for Jill Stein, and in California I might be able to, but I’m not ready to abandon what could again be the party of the people.

indrasnet
indrasnet

testing

indrasnet
indrasnet

omg — after months of not being able to post, i got through!! 🙂

new2this

Right on! This is an excellent rant.

KayCeSF
KayCeSF

I’m so angry I’m truly speechless about every issue you all write about here and elsewhere. I have nothing to add to your excellent rant, except that I’m also pissed off at Obama. And saying that “out loud” makes me feel sick inside. Instead I sit silent and dumbfounded because I feel duped.

wi61

I agree especially about Obama hope and change never did materialize– well at least the way we hoped –went backwards in a lot of ways

Caerus
Caerus

I literally hate how correct the Tundra Tart was/is when she asked “how’s that hopey changey thing workin’ out for ya’?” Seriously sick. Probably not as sick as Hillary, who was wearing Zeiss Blue anti-seizure lens glasses on 9/11 – and we can guess why, but still – agree with this essay/rant.

Think being taken in by Obama – his going to Rahm Emmanuel, and Tim Geither right off the bat, and then giving SOS to Hillary ( can you imagine what deal they cut for that???)

All just sickening. Also feel deep in my gut, that Clintons ( both of them) are a lot more dangerous than Trump. At least if we can take back the Democratic party from the clutches of the Clintons, by defeating them, we’d have a chance for 2020.

SO, if I bother to vote, it will be A.B.C. = Anybody But Clintons

belle de jour

Am sincerely hoping a talented illustrator is inspired to pen a political comix with Tundra Tart as one of the trashy, inept anti-heroes.

(For what it’s worth, Caerus, I do hope you can bring yourself to vote for A.B.C.; polls and elections know no subtleties, I always appreciate reading your opinions, and I like to think of your objections being even more immediately measurable than silence.)

SparkyGump
SparkyGump

Yea, the TPP is a blatant betrayal.

phatkhat

Obama duped me ONCE.

Benny

As Nina Turner would tweet, “True. That.”

I’m glad Bernie is healthy and still fighting the good fights at the moment. I hope he can help Dems running for Senate to get elected. And that some of the OR candidates are making inroads in some of the state & local governments.

I’d like to see a petition to the moderators about what questions NOT to ask HC and DT, such as “are you fit to serve as C-in-Chief or How would you make America Great Again, or what do you think about professional athletes who refuse to stand for the national anthem. ”

I want to hear what they think of the current collaboration with Russia that Kerry worked out, and why Clinton feels the need to reheat the Cold War with Russia. Should interest rates be raised and when? What would you do with trade deals that would support American workers if TPP is not workable as it stands. What do you do with IRS regulations for companies who move their HQ overseas to avoid paying US taxes if you cannot get Congress to amend the Internal Revenue Code? Is flat tax a bad idea, and if so, why is it a bad idea? What would you cut if you are backed into a corner in not getting an increase in the debt ceiling?

And on & on…

SparkyGump
SparkyGump

This is why we have to have a viable third party. Bernie said the system is rigged. When the system is broken, you make your own system.

NVPainter

I wish a third party could be truly viable… but given how our political system is constructed, it probably wouldn’t be likely. But I like “when the system is broken, you make your own system.” Hmmmmm. I’m thinking about that.

humphrey

You are a welcome presence. Your thorough observance of the recent comments and cogent comments in that regard makes you a valued member of this site!

NVPainter

Thank you — how kind of you to say so!

belle de jour

Agree x 1000, Sparky.

humphrey

The Hillary campaign have come up with a winning strategy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSWuK63xJAc

The Russian hack doesn’t seem to be working so lets throw some more shit against the wall and see what sticks.

BTW I’m not sure that Hillary has ever been mistaken for Twiggy.

Failing that David Brock is at it again.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/democratic-super-pac-pay-trump-dirt-n648591

( I am not a Trump supporter and will gladly write in Bernie given the opportunity)

belle de jour

Thank you very much for your astute comments on the nature of righteous anger. I almost stopped coming to this site altogether because of unrequested, unqualified, touchy-feely analysis relegating my own to the category of something akin to ‘understandable disappointment.’ Or in the face of cheerfully persistent ‘wait and see,’ paternalistically tolerant attitudes regarding the most obviously corrupt & painfully, utterly, completely predictable perfidy of the democratic party.

I would respectfully posit that earned, well-placed, well-argued and well-documented anger is not merely reactive – nor is it hatred’s weak second cousin at the family reunion.

Not by a long shot.

polarbear4

Apologize if I was part of the unrequested “understandable disappointment.” I think I was gone for most of your hiatus, but noticed your absence upon return.

Glad you are back, and yes, excellent rant. :O)

phatkhat

I understand your feelings, because I share them. I think it’s a bit better, now. Or maybe I’m not here as much. But know that I love your acid wit and commentary, and miss you when it’s missing from our threads!

phatkhat

Excellent post! I think this…

Hate is also the title we give to other people’s anger when we don’t want to acknowledge why someone is angry.

…is totally profound.

I agree with everything you said.

belle de jour

Since you highlighted this particular excerpt, I’ve thought about it a great deal… and agree that it is both incredibly apt and deeply profound. On its own, it is an excellent premise for an entire book or short story or treatise; the nuances between kinds of anger and kinds of what we lazily dub hatred are just some of the shades missing from what we currently accept as debate or analysis.

Thank you for making me think more & harder, as well as for your several other comments; all is truly appreciated.

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